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Donny just keeping it classy.

We don't want tanks in our nations capital. Most of us are secure enough in the fact that our military is second to none that we don't need to be reassured like we are children. Trumpophiles, however, are a much different story.

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Trump must have loved the Soviet era when they'd hold parades displaying an array of weaponry. Trump and his neo-cons, aging men each, seem to be fascinated with priapic shaped hardware.

Pathetic.

Gens X, Y and Z: you're the planet's best hope. The US, China, and Russia are ruled by aging baby boomers who care nothing about you and the future of the planet.

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"Salute to America"

It's a salute to Trump's insatiable ego. He wants to play dictator.

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More of the WH reality TV. Damage to roads not built for tanks.

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The U.S. military, as a single organization, serves to protect the Constitution; as such, it needs to remain in the background of our society until called upon to do its duty. Any military gear in a parade makes us look like a banana republic...or Russia...or China.

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Trump has to be front and center everyday, wether it be newspapers, twitter, tv news, social media, his ego knows no bounds, as long as he sees his name up in lights , he should be on broadway, but then again who wants to promote a flop.

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One step into North Korea, and ....

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Until this week, July 4th was a birthday party for our nation. Millions celebrated with cookouts and cakes decorated in red, white, and blue. The celebration of the birth of our nation was a joyful time - families gathered, kids running around with sparklers, lots of food - and remembrances of ordinary citizens fighting to live free. There was no military or tanks or rockets . . . just people with little more than sticks and stones defending our fledgling nation from destruction. The 4th belonged to We, the People.  Until this week, no American POTUS thought the day belonged to him and him alone. It is with a great sense of sadness, and equal alarm, that I ask myself the question that comes to mind nearly every day - How can this be happening in the USA, land that I love? Sadly, I cannot come up with an answer that makes sense.

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Cool. I enjoy air shows and when military bases invite the public to see what they are all about. Should be an impressive display for the taxpayers.

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Will it be an air show, Wolfpack? The ones I’ve seen have always been over an airfield, rather than a city - for safety reasons. Over a city you get a flyover with some coloured trails at best.

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Growing up in the US, even in school films at any early age, we always associated troops going by in a line as a kind of symbol of how some pretty nasty people did some things at some point. The big one for us was the Germans marching in WWII in front of Hitler, then you have Russia in the 80s, you often see that with North Korea and China.

For whatever reason, that's become a negative to associate with that country. A threat. And there's usually a dictator standing in front of them. Show me a cable documentary about countries with the words "rising threat" and there will be a parade. I guarantee it.

And it's absolutely stunning Trump doesn't see that association in our culture. He just wants to be the guy they are praising in that video.

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I spent 27 years wearing our nation's uniform - military equipment has no place in our 4th of July celebrations - keep them for Memorial Day, Veterans Day, or other military related holidays.

The 4th of July honors the founding of our nation that refused to be ruled by an un-elected monarch who didn't permit freedom, free speech, and separation of church and state.

We now find ourselves with a President that acts more like that monarch than any other President in our history. Who tries to wave the flag and promote false patriotism while dodging his own service to our country five times. Who insults Gold Star families. Who denigrates war heroes.

Tanks and troops marching down the street belong in countries with tin-pot dictators and insecure tyrants - you know, the type of leaders this President yucks it up with at Summits and back-slaps at the DMZ.

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Trump's dream to make Washington D.C. look like Moscow's Red Square.

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I have been very critical of Antifa. But news like this makes me want to take a baseball bat to the skull of fake patriots who seem to think the worship of military hardware is equivalent to love of country. We used to have no official anthem and were FREE to sing what we wanted. Then the government chose a war hymn over "America the Beautiful" and others as the official anthem. Our kids are peer pressured to recite a pledge of indoctrination to a flag every morning. The Pentagon got sports players on the field for the anthem in 2009, a pure Nazi move. And police harass, entrap, brutalize and murder people with near impunity and half the country cheers for them. Its not that we need to prevent America going fascist. Its that America already IS fascist and we need to turn back the clock. I will tell you where Donnie can shove those tanks. And actually, it probably wasn't even his idea. Welcome to Amerika. We have really gone down hill. We should have just allied with Hitler at this point.

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Maybe they could park on the WH lawn as a hint that a departure is called for,

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Big brother Putin and Lil Kim must be proud, their influence rubbing off on Trump.

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Well, it only took 2.5 years for Trump to get tanks in the streets.

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BTW, how many of Trump's "my generals" have stood by him?

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Almost every US military base in the world has an open house weekend annually where they show off the equipment and have the operators available to answer questions for US and in-country citizens. Usually some "guest equipment" within the same service is brought in every year that isn't part of that base's mission.

There are demonstrations of the equipment being used, though not weapon deployments.

The Blue Angels primary job is marketing for the US-Navy, so this would be exactly in their normal task list. Too bad they won't land and the people can't get close to the planes and talk with the pilots.

Certainly Trump must have been to an open house before? Or perhaps that was deemed "too middle class" for him?

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The Blue Angels primary job is marketing for the US-Navy

Because if a goon squad needs anything, its marketing.

Your post is factual but I give it a thumbs down because its abhorrent. Presenting those facts in a neutral light makes me ill. They make Trump's plan look like a baby step forward...and while it is its still a baby step from abhorrent to a bit more abhorrent.

The marketing campaign has been so successful that America spends as much as the entire rest of the world combined on war and war toys, the equivalent of 5 Chinas, despite 1) America having the safest possible geographical location after New Zealand and 2) very strong and rich allies helping filling up the top five war spender spots. And Americans don't even know how most of their money is thrown at war while they bicker about education and health care funding.

All I can hope for is that tanks in Washington will wake the American people up to this vile war cult of a country we have become. But I think I will be disappointed.

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What an ugly sight this will be. Are Trump supporters blind to the associations with military parades, esp on a national holiday?

I hope it tanks. Bigly.

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Maybe Freud could explain Trump's love affair with tanks, but another explanation might be that he has spent too much time in North Korea. Mesmerized by Kim's charisma Trump seems to be turning into the Manchurian Candidate. Somebody better switch him off soon before he does any more damage! Dems do your duty!

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What worries me is the rumor that anti-aircraft guns will ring the Capitol building as the Democrats exit. Didn’t Mr. Trump recently visit Kim Jong-in?

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@Norman Goodman

I have been very critical of Antifa. But 

...

That’s a modern classic of a statement, Norm.

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@Norman Goodman,

sounds like you’d be right at home with the Antifa nazis.

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We need AOC quick! Get her back from those phony photo shoots shes doing, faking shock and outrage in front of empty parking lots.

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Heh, I it’s funny watching the extremists on the right try to get on their high horse about antifa!

But, you guys!!

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Haha Go AOC! Keep doing it if not just to troll the right!

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Look at the right trying to suppress the voices of antifa. Why does the right hate free speech? Why does the right want to silence opposing opinions? Why is the right turning more and more fascist every day?

Won’t someone think of the children?

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Tanks, Donald.

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Anti-fascists are actually cool and good.

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@Strangerland, Antigua can say what they like. ITs the violence it commits against those it disagrees with that troubles decent people.

Journalist Andy NGO was just set upon by the Antifa mob in Portland and hospitalized.

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There was a very good reason the Roman Legions weren't permitted south of the Rubicon.

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Journalist Andy NGO was just set upon by the Antifa mob in Portland and hospitalized.

He didn't provoke them in any way, did he? You guys roll out every excuse in the book when Donny encourages violence and attacks the press or a Trumpophile commits an act of violence. Forgive us for not taking your concern here seriously.

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The number of vehicles will be very small with the current plan to have two M1 Abrams tanks, two Bradley fighting vehicles and an armored M88 Recovery Vehicle, along with accompanying personnel. What's the big problem? This has got the Trump haters really triggered. Chill out.

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@Chip Star,

Understood. Youve told me everything I need to know.

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ITs the violence it commits against those it disagrees with that troubles decent people.

Those people are fascists. Fascists deserve a punch.

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Only U.S. democrat socialist (p)antifa supporters and the non-American obsessed back benchers think We The People celebrating our country's greatness this coming Thursday is a bad thing. Man, they are really a sad, sick bunch of people.

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@Chip Star

He didn't provoke them in any way, did he? 

Is a known journalist showing up with a camera with the intention of covering a story for Quillette provocation? Hardly.

Is beating that same journalist a crime? Certainly.

Can the Portland police be accused of neglecting their duty? I should say so.

The Portland police are led by Danielle Outlaw. How apt.

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Texas A&M AggieToday  06:34 pm JST

Only U.S. democrat socialist (p)antifa supporters and the non-American obsessed back benchers think We The People celebrating our country's greatness this coming Thursday is a bad thing.

That's a gross misrepresentation of critics' views. No one has said anything of the sort.

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Wish I could be there o see it. Go Trump!

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Heh, I it’s funny watching the extremists on the right try to get on their high horse about antifa!

But, you guys!!

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Anti-fascism is good. Fascism is bad. This ain’t hard.

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bass4funk: "Wish I could be there o see it. Go Trump!"

Of course you do! Same as Trump loves seeing fascist parades.

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So no problem with Antifa bearing up a gay Asian journalist but triggered by a tank. Figures.

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White House staff, including Ivanka and her husband are being investigated for using private emails for their official business.

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bass4funk

Wish I could be there o see it. Go Trump!

you are the very rich dude with a private jet so why can't you be there at home for the 4th July?

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Even with the tickek tape parade after the First Iraqi War didn't include tanks.

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Blacklabel I have a problem with Antifa beating up anyone who is not a direct threat to them or their freedoms. The beating of Ngo is inexcusable and I hope those who did it get some jail time. However, Ngo is a proper idiot. He is so obviously on the side of Patriot Prayer that those people greet him cheerfully. Then he goes over to Antifa and annoys them. And as soon as he approaches they curse him out and tell him to get lost and threaten him. The guy is an instigator and/or a complete idiot. I don't support his beating, but yet, he totally deserved it. He has been harassing Antifa for months under the guise of reporting. He should have learned to keep his distance months ago.

That said, I am not going to claim to know who is to blame most for the violence between these groups however I feel that are plenty of people on both sides who only showed up for violence. Probably police planted agents provacateurs too. But at least Antifa is not going to cheer for a display of war toys on the 4th of July. And if it takes violence to end such a plan, so be it. These people have got to be made to stop brainwashing our children on this war cult garbage.

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So, let's get this right. Trump is proposing to place tanks there symbolically, hoping to get antifa out in the open where they can be accused of hating/disrespecting the USA, 4th July etc, etc.? Will they then be rounded up as Public Enemy No.1?

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As our Independence Day approaches, U.S. democrat socialists and non-American back benchers are high-fiving each other over the news of the near death of a gay reporter by (p)antifa thugs in Portland over the weekend. Oh, the tolerant Left.

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Texas A&M Aggie wrote:

We The People celebrating our country's greatness this coming Thursday

As some who could be labeled a centrist (its more complicated than that) this is what I hate about the right. Dude, either you don't even know what the 4th of July is about or want to change it to something fascist. Put the pom poms down and look up the 4th of July in a few places. Its NOT about some pompous chest beating about how great America is and its now about how wonderful our war toys are either.

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@Norman Goodman: He is so obviously on the side of Patriot Prayer that those people greet him cheerfully. Then he goes over to Antifa and annoys them.

Ngo is an asian and a homosexual. If Patriot Prayer are the racist homophobes that the Antifa extremists believe and use as justification to physically harm conservatives, why on earth would he be considered a supporter? He is simply a journalist who is exposing a domestic terrorist group and the harmfulness of their twisted ideology.

And as soon as he approaches they curse him out and tell him to get lost and threaten him. The guy is an instigator and/or a complete idiot.

That’s no excuse for the physical harm Antifa inflicted upon the journalist. Jim Acosta is a Leftist instigator and an idiot - I don’t think it’s okay to assault him either.

I don't support his beating, but yet, he totally deserved it.

How do you justify that statement? It’s like saying a woman wearing a short skirt in a motorcycle bar deserved it. Nonsense.

He has been harassing Antifa for months under the guise of reporting. He should have learned to keep his distance months ago.

Could say the same of Acosta and CNN. Not an excuse for violence.

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@Norman Goodman: But at least Antifa is not going to cheer for a display of war toys on the 4th of July. And if it takes violence to end such a plan, so be it. 

That’s nuts. Surely you don’t mean that. If the Left keeps this up Trump will get re-elected in a landslide.

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This man cannot win re-election.

And it depends on you.

Vote Dem. Donate Dem. Canvass Dem. Work Dem.

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Because if a goon squad needs anything, its marketing.

> Your post is factual but I give it a thumbs down because its abhorrent. Presenting those facts in a neutral light makes me ill.

You've missed my point completely, probably a mix of my not being explicit and some anti-Trump glasses being worn.

a) What's wrong with just the facts? You might want to get checked by a doctor if you feel ill just by reading something.

b) I'd hoped to show that having any military equipment at the National Mall was a total waste. Anyone who wants to see it can visit a nearby open house. The war memorials there are sufficiently creepy already.

c) US Navy marketing is purely for recruitment.

I've had ties to the US Military for many, many, decades, though I never served directly. When you call them a "goon squad", I find that highly offensive. Perhaps we've just had different experiences?

We also need to remember that the USA became a country through a war.

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Thanks, but no tanks.

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Anti Trump liberal group and democrats are so dumb. They do not understand and they will never be understood. They will never try to understand. They are as dumb as Donkey. They will oppose whatever the President Trump was doing for the country.

I think that kind of celebration is good because it will lift the American peoples' spirit. The peoples have lacked of patriotism in today Western world. The Government has a duty for to encourage people to love their nation and lift their patriotic spirit of the nation. It will be fun and renew the old world spirit as well.

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As our Independence Day approaches, U.S. democrat socialists and non-American back benchers are high-fiving each other over the news of the near death of a gay reporter by (p)antifa thugs in Portland over the weekend. Oh, the tolerant Left.

None of this is accurate. We are not high giving each other, we are pointing out the painfully obvious double-standards of Trumpophiles.

It was not a nearby death experience by any stretch of the imagination, but that doesn't make it any less repugnant. Violence only begets violence, which rightists should know quite well.

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The peoples have lacked of patriotism in today Western world.

You clearly don't know our countries as well as you presume.

Americans have enough patriotism to make Noah's flood look like a sprinkle. You'd be hard pressed to drive through most towns and cities in the US and not spot an exorbitant amount of American flags.

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Chip StarToday  06:31 am JST

"As our... (whatever)"

None of this is accurate. We are not high giving each other, we are pointing out the painfully obvious double-standards of Trumpophiles.

Well, I'm sure they'll be full of outrage and condemnation when anti-Trump protesters get roughed up by Trump supporters - who will be doing exactly what the man himself has encouraged.

Or maybe they won't say anything about right-wing violence at all and try to change the subject to those horrible lefties.

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Apparently a whole lot of you really have no clue what the 4th of July symbolizes to most Americans, if you somehow think a military display wouldn't be seen as 'patriotic' by the average citizen. Especially now, with our servicemen and women having been involved in wars for the last 20 years, the average American views our military with great patriotism and you can't get much more patriotic than the day we celebrate our country's independence.

A few tanks driving down the road in a parade actually scares some of you, like Norman Goodman up there (By the way Norman, you've got some serious anger issues). Like they the tanks suddenly going to veer off the parade route and shoot your civil rights away with their big scary guns.

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Trump is such an idiot he thinks we have "new" Sherman tanks.

This man cannot be re-elected.

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Trump is such an idiot he thinks we have "new" Sherman tanks.

Dude, Trump says a lot of stupid things, but he first said 'new' Abrams tanks, then 'new' Sherman tanks, so I'm going to go out on a limb here and assume he meant looking like they came fresh out of the factory, not that we currently made them.

Some of the stuff people latch onto is pretty silly.

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Norman Goodman - I have been very critical of Antifa. But news like this makes me want to take a baseball bat to the skull of fake patriots

It appears that you condone violence.

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There is evil in the world. The US is taking the lumps. From a popular movie:

And my existence while grotesque and incomprehensible, to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down in places you talk about parties; you want me on that wall, you need me on that wall! We use words like honor, code, loyalty, We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something, you use them as a punch line. I have neither the time,or the inclination, to explain myself to a man, who rises and sleep under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner, in which I provide it. I'd rather you just say 'thank you' and go on your way. Otherwise I suggest you pick up a weapon, and stand a post.

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