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Trump says U.S. may seek damages from China over virus

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First, the US should sue Trump for his very poor handling of the situation.

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Of course he would seek that, he needs that money to pay off the coming lawsuits over his inept handling of the coronavirus in America lol

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This is about as realistic as his problem to make Mexico pay for his wall.

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"promise"

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Hahahahahaha. Oh yeah, that will work. Stable genius indeed.

snerk

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"We are not happy with China," Trump said at a White House briefing. "We are not happy with that whole situation because we believe it could have been stopped at the source. It could have been stopped quickly and it wouldn't have spread all over the world."

"There are a lot of ways you can hold them accountable," Trump said. "We're doing some very serious investigations as you probably know."

Absolutely right Donnie - hold them accountable...how about;

Stop giving them millions of dollars in contracts to make your Trump Collection clothing line...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-event-touted-made-america-goods-lot-his-merchandise-couldn-n893656

Stop taking loans from the State Bank of China for your properties...

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-owes-millions-to-bank-of-china-for-building-loan-records-show/

We won't hold our breath...

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He has a point here. The CCP has a lot to answer for.

Any legal types here with knowledge of how viable this is? I read China can be seen as violating article 6 and 7 of the international health regulations but opinion seems divided on whether damages can be demanded in practice.

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I agree there's enough clear evidence showing the virus started in China and that China was far too slow in taking action to deal with the virus and to inform other nations about it.

But I think Trump's once again pointing fingers away from his ongoing bungling of events. He's once again playing for his base, trying to convince them he's a victim, a man of constant sorrows despised and rejected by the media and people able to reason beyond a 10 year old's level.

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This fake news AGAIN? what is it, 5 days in a row now?

Stop taking loans from the State Bank of China for your properties...

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/trump-owes-millions-to-bank-of-china-for-building-loan-records-show/

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At this point we don't care what Trump says, please stop spamming the Internet with that guy, it's really playing his game ...

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Trump says U.S. may seek damages from China over virus

He was just being sarcastic.

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But I think Trump's once again pointing fingers away from his ongoing bungling of events. He's once again playing for his base, trying to convince them he's a victim, a man of constant sorrows despised and rejected by the media and people able to reason beyond a 10 year old's level.

Agreed. He’s totally spineless - takes credit for the good things and claims he has no responsibility for the bad. A pathetic excuse for a man.

That said, he’s got a point. Other often much more competent and thoughtful world leaders are looking at this. It needs to be looked at.

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Ptownsend,

What did he bungle?

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Indeed, the CCP owes the whole world damages. Seeing the damage this virus is inflicting on the very fragile African economies is worth it for me agreeing with Trump on this one - while holding my nose.

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Already done! The US state of Missouri says it is suing the Chinese government over its handling of the coronavirus which it says has led to severe economic losses. At least 3 other groups are doing the same, along with one from Israel.

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What did he bungle?

The part of his life where he was President of the United States.

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So when Merkel / germany suggests it that is the right way to go? But as soon as Trump says it all the haters crawl out once again and its not the right thing to do?.

We all know china should be held accountable by the world as a community, Im in favour of merkel and trump and anyone else actually filing claims for damages against the ccp.

The chance of them paying out is slim to none of course but it atleast will show the world does hold them accountable .

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sure! there was total support here for Germany doing....the exact same thing.

Meanwhile, Trump just gets another investigation supposedly justified by confirmed fake news.

https://www.duckworth.senate.gov/news/press-releases/following-reports-that-trump-owes-millions-to-chinese-bank-duckworth-requests-investigation-into-decision-to-ship-tons-of-ppe-and-medical-supplies-from-the-us-to-china-

So basically Trump is evil because he donated PPE to China when their people were dying. huh? such a terrible man.

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@rainyday,

You sound very angry

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So when Merkel / germany suggests it that is the right way to go?

Please link to a source where Merkel said the CCP paying damages was the right way to go.

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You sound very angry

Thank you for noticing. Yes, blithering incompetence does upset me.

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@pointofview What did he bungle?

Yandex: trump bungles virus. Choose whichever source fits your worldview.

Personally I'd start with a timeline, with when he was first informed by his intelligence agencies and medical staff of the virus. And then I'd look at the many times he contradicted himself and flat out 'intentionally misinformed' Then on to look at the wack things he's said.

Here's an article from RT you might trust, given rightists disdain for US corporate news.

Just last year, the US topped a list of the countries best equipped to deal with a pandemic. But the experts have egg on their face as America spirals into Covid-19 catastrophe. What went wrong?

https://yandex.com/search/?text=russia%20today&lr=10636

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He was just being sarcastic.

You win today.

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Apologies: wrong link.

Just last year, the US topped a list of the countries best equipped to deal with a pandemic. But the experts have egg on their face as America spirals into Covid-19 catastrophe. What went wrong?

This instead* https://www.rt.com/op-ed/484613-usa-prepared-pandemic-coronavirus/

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For China to make restitution would be an admission of responsibility for the pandemic. That would open the door to claims from every country in that's been infected, and there isn't enough money in the world to address those claims. Still an act of contrition would be a reasonable move. Perhaps China could set up a fund for development of a vaccine and mass vaccinations.

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if this is not just more reality television/soap opera/you know ...the addictive thing before elections; i say do it ! why not.. even if unfounded, even if we never understand how this actually happened.

I am sure it will pave a way for some sort of UN regulation that can further be used to enforce sanctions to less responsible countries.

Sanction everything really, nuclear disasters, pollution, tobacco, harboring drug cartels.. everything harmful even if there is no intent, there is neglect

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Good first start. Please do sue. Perhaps a coordinated effort with all our allies.

But what I really want is for the U.S. CDC to interview Dr. Shi Zhengli (bat woman) who worked at Wuhan Institute of Virology and has studied the 300+ coronavirus sequences at the Wuhan BSL-4 (Bio-safety Lab).

But China will not let that happen. :)

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Blaming President Trump (one person) for mishandling a global epidemic based on hearsay and personal opinions. Great!

Take a long look at your self and the hypocrisy within your perspective!

FYI. You are going to get him reflected

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Blaming President Trump (one person) for mishandling a global epidemic based on hearsay and personal opinions. Great! 

Trump said Obama should resign when two Americans died from Ebola. Why shouldn’t trump be held to his own standard?

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use the money they spend on military to compensate the whole world. a peaceful act.

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He will ask China to nullify all his personal debts with the Chinese banks and call it even!

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FYI. You are going to get him reflected

Never thought Trump was a vampire, but if no reflection because perhaps it manifests a lack of a soul, he could be one.

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Blaming President Trump (one person) for mishandling a global epidemic based on hearsay and personal opinions. Great!

No need to rely on hearsay, we can directly see his own words and actions and blame him based on that alone.

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Never going to happen, you've got a well known international law called the "Foreign Sovereign Immunities Act". If American thinks they can sue a foreign government then they can most definitely be sue back.

America might target Chinese assets in the US , and so can China target AMerican assets in China, many US companies sell and manufacture their products in China. GM sells more cars in China than the US.

American law doesn't trump international law

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAPrImrYp2M

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The problem with making China pay the world for damages stemming from their failure to handle this COVID19 outbreak at the early stages is that even if they agree and pay everybody...they'll pay it in Chinese Yuan with the ulterior goal of replacing the USD and EU as major currencies, thereby strengthening their global dominance.

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A few more trademarks for baby Ivanka, write-offs for Trump corporation loans and Donny should be fine .

China should pay for leading the world to disaster , but donny doing it would be another disaster!!!

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Have the Iraqis or the Vietnamese tried suing the US government for their illegal wars?

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"There are a lot of ways you can hold them accountable," Trump said. "We're doing some very serious investigations as you probably know."

The best ways that countries could start is not putting all their eggs on one single country to be the producer and supplier of the world like some backyard business. Most of the developed countries have too many regulatory requirements that bind their hands. Start there vs bashing another country doing their bidding. Didn't hear any complaints during all that trading going on. Right? Be fair where it counts all countries have a say so by starting within themselves first before pointing a direct finger at one particular country. While the source has been at China, what was behind or whom and for what purpose. So far all fingers point towards a one organization that threw billions at the Chinese to research this natural virus before enhancing its features. So as posted follow the money and the money so far has led to big pharma and the a particular foundation among others. But the biggest blame is back to the "putting all your eggs in one basket", hence the supply disruption around the world. Do really want to blame 1 country or yourselves for allowing it to happen this way. Afterall many of the worlds countries have been around for over 200 yrs and some, yet got this far without the massive global dependence on 1 country.

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I believe Trump will simply refuse to repay the enormous debt the US owes to their creditor, Communist China. There is your reparations. This promise could well be the key to Trump/Pence winning re-election.

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Of course China won't pay a penny! A real victory would be if China closed down those dirty wet markets. That's about the best we can hope for, but that's also probably difficult to do because of mainland China's dining customs of eating just about anything that walks, crawls or flies.

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 Do really want to blame 1 country or yourselves for allowing it to happen this way.

I'm not going to blame myself.

But if your point is, in the US at least, many US headquartered corporations gladly use China so they can lower the corporation's costs and increase their profits, I fully agree.

Corporate greed mixed with disdain for US workers (they want benefits and a living wage?) definitely contributed to allowing China to grow into the leviathan it has become.

A complex dynamic, but US corporations and the politicians they control need to step up and take some responsibility (nasty word for some in DC these days) for allowing this to happen.

US politicians who profit and whose family members profit from having their products manufactured in China and who've had huge loans from China need to be run out of office.

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So the trade war is back on?

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I believe Trump will simply refuse to repay the enormous debt the US owes to their creditor, Communist China. There is your reparations. This promise could well be the key to Trump/Pence winning re-election.

So the US Treasury should default on the debt of the Federal government? Treasury bonds are transferable so they can't just default on the ones China has without defaulting on all of them.

Its stuff like this which gives me pause to think that maybe having a system of government in which policy is determined by whatever random "idea" the idiot in charge farted out of his malfunctioning brain that morning isn't the best model.

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yeah it is certainly some much more effective and democratic to have non elected people make policy instead of elected ones. Much easier to hold people to account who you never voted for and who you can never vote out.....(thats sarcasm done right, you know?)

policy is determined by whatever random "idea" the idiot in charge

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"It's very substantial. This is worldwide damage. This is damage to the U.S., but this is damage to the world."

You are not the leader of the world so just drop it, you are an embarrassment

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yeah it is certainly some much more effective and democratic to have non elected people make policy instead of elected ones. Much easier to hold people to account who you never voted for and who you can never vote out.....

Did I say I wanted unelected officials making policy?

What I want is a democratically elected leader who doesn’t think injecting everyone with bleach and sunlight is going to solve this.

(thats sarcasm done right, you know?)

Sorry, but if you have to tell me you are doing sarcasm, you aren’t doing it right.

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JimizoToday 12:10 pm JST

So when Merkel / germany suggests it that is the right way to go?

Please link to a source where Merkel said the CCP paying damages was the right way to go.

Did you even see the question mark how is your comprehension,

Germany Merkel China Court case search google its been news .

And what i typed was when merkel / germany suggests it, that is the right way to go?

There see the comma this time?

Never mind I understand that some struggle here !

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I believe Trump will simply refuse to repay the enormous debt the US owes to their creditor, Communist China. There is your reparations.

Oh sure, that would be brilliant - have the US default on its debt - and watch the market sink even further into a black hole and the US economy implode.

This promise could well be the key to Trump/Pence winning re-election.

Causing the collapse of the world economy, to include the US? You think that will help get the Dimwit re-elected?

Too many Trump U Business grads out there...

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Did you even see the question mark how is your comprehension,

Germany Merkel China Court case search google its been news .

And what i typed was when merkel / germany suggests it, that is the right way to go?

There see the comma this time?

Never mind I understand that some struggle here !

Total car crash of intelligibility and logic. I do struggle with posts like that.

If you read what I posted, I wrote Trump has a point. I also wrote that I can’t find any source which states that Merkel has talked or written about claiming damages from the CCP. Please post the source. Are you thinking of a German newspaper?

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"We are not happy with China,"

Yeah, pretty everyone is not happy with China.

First, the US should sue Trump for his very poor handling of the situation.

Pffft! As if Sleepy Joe would have done any better:

Jan.30 First case of human to human transmission of the Wuhan virus in the U.S. confirmed

Jan. 31 Trump bans entry of foreign nationals who had been to China during the last 14 days

Biden calls Trump's action "xenophobic"

So he will get a massive discount on his ties and hats then Ivanka will start a new shoe factory there too....

Trump imposes tariffs, prompting a trade deal far more advantageous to the U.S.

Biden: “China is going to eat our lunch? Come on, man,I mean, you know, they’re not bad folks, folks. But guess what? They’re not competition for us."

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Pretty much everyone is not happy with China.

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Good. Every country needs to do the same.

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Trump, poor insane idiot, can't take responsibility for his own mistakes. Obviously...but continuing to confirm it by always laying blame on others is pathetic at best, and shows what a paper tiger this cowering, weak kneed wimp is.

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Causing the collapse of the world economy, to include the US? You think that will help get the Dimwit re-elected?

If the "Dimwit's" Democratic rival, whoever it ends up being, becomes president, that will collapse the U.S. economy, assuming we can open up the economy to keep it from collapsing before then, which the Democrats don't want, they want the lockdowns to continue, collapsing the economy in the hopes that will get the Democrat nominee elected. Nice, huh.

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