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Trump says U.S. withdrawing from Syria very soon; 'let others take care of it'

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as most of us know by now , anything trump says is the opposite...

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illegal, uninvited invaders.

go home

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You think this is over? Not yet! The foreign jihadist survivors of this war were coming back! You used them and betrayal them, their threats were unimaginable.

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This is amazing. he condemned Obama for telegraphing and now he does it. Does he remember anything he ever says?

As for Syria just what has been accomplished? Trump took credit for ISIS being defeated when all he did was continue US policy as set up by Obama. The Iraqis defeated ISIS. Saying he did it is like the US claiming that they won WW2, when it was the Russians. We helped.

The President will say anything for an applause line.... if it works, he'll repeat it on several occasions.

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The beacon of democracy, human rights? Might not be what it proclaimes to be. That's a real shame.

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"We'll be coming out of Syria, like, very soon. Let the other people take care of it now," he promised, to applause.

Did he not say something similar about Afghanistan?

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"Like", very soon ? Can this guy be more precise ?

"But we're going to be coming out of there real soon. Going to get back to our country, where we belong, where we want to be."

Yeah, because that's the only country with american soldiers in it...

Also, Nicky Haley is regularly trashing the UN over the situation in Syria, and now her boss says they don't care anymore ? They really should get their story straight !

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Yeah, because that's the only country with american soldiers in it...

Aye, one wonders what they're still doing here.

As for Nicky Haley, she's a poor successor to Samantha Power.

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Russia and Turkey will fill the void and continue to threaten Western Europe.

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"Let the other people take care of it now," he promised.

Iran, Hesbollah, Russia, Turkey: "Thank you!"

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We'll be coming out of Syria, like, very soon

Like very soon, eh?

Babbling idiot.

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"We spent $7 trillion in the Middle East. And you know what we have for it? Nothing," Trump declared, promising to focus future U.S. spending on building jobs and infrastructure at home.

Except millions dead in wars started by Bush so for once I agree with Trump. Withdraw troops and no war against NK and Iran. I wonder if he told Bolton of his decision? The size of the Afghanistan opium crop is greater than before the war and is helping to fuel the American heroin addictions killing tens of thousands more

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'Hes telegraphing, then 'hes not being precise enough' - you guys anti-trump bias is chronic.

good on Trump! US should never have been meddling in Syria. It was Obama who started that.

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Hes telegraphing, then 'hes not being precise enough' - you guys anti-trump bias is chronic

It is possible to telegraph while being imprecise. Serious leaders think in the long term.

My guess is those involved in Syria won’t take him seriously anyway. It could just be his latest brain fart roaring out of a cloud of foul smelling gas.

Unless he’s playing 4D chess again...

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"We spent $7 trillion in the Middle East. And you know what we have for it? Nothing,

Ask John Bolton what he thinks about that.

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In case you're keeping track:

Trump 2000:

I'm no warmonger. But the fact is, if we decide a strike against Iraq is necessary, it is madness not to carry the mission to its conclusion. When we don't, we have the worst of all worlds: Iraq remains a threat, and now has more incentive than ever to attack us.

Trump 2002:

When you’re in the private sector, you get asked things, and you’re not a politician, and probably the first time I was asked. By the time the war started, I was against it, and shortly thereafter, I was really against.

Trump 2003 (3/21):

Well, I think Wall Street’s waiting to see what happens, but even before the fact, they’re obviously taking it a little bit for granted and it looks like a tremendous success from a military standpoint, and I think this is really nothing compared to what you’re gonna see after the war is over.

I think Wall Street’s just gonna go up like a rocket, even beyond, and it’s gonna continue and, you know, we have a strong and powerful country and let’s hope it all works out.

Trump 2003 (3/25):

If they keep fighting it the way they did today, they're going to have a real problem.... The war's a mess.

Trump 2003 (12/15):

Well, it is tougher than people thought. The war turned out to be easy, the initial phase of the war. But now we're still in the war, and it certainly is a war of attrition," he said. "It just seems to be something that, we are there now, we have to stay, we have to win, otherwise we just won't have the same respect. But we do have other problems.

Trump 2004 (4/16):

I was never a fan of Iraq, going in, because this guy used to keep the terrorists out. He'd kill the terrorists. Well, you know, look at that country. Do you think a regular guy — do you think Jimmy Carter is gonna run Iraq?

Trump 2004 (11/24):

I do not believe that we made the right decision going into Iraq, but, you know, hopefully, we'll be getting out. Now I do think we have other problems. I think you have to do something with the nuclear weapons that are obviously being built in Iran and the nuclear weapons being built in North Korea where they're — that's not even obvious. I mean, they're saying they're building nuclear weapons, and we're bogged down in Iraq.

Trump 2007:

You know how they get out? They get out. That's how they get out. Declare victory and leave, because I'll tell you, this country is just going to get further bogged down. They're in a civil war over there, Wolf. There's nothing that we're going to be able to do with a civil war. They are in a major civil war.

Trump 2008:

First, I'd get out of Iraq right now. And by the way, I am the greatest hawk who ever lived, a far greater hawk even than Bush. I am the most militant military human being who ever lived.

Trump 2016 (4/16):

I’ve always said -- shouldn’t be there, but if we’re going to get out, take the oil. If we would have taken the oil, you wouldn’t have ISIS, because ISIS formed with the power and the wealth of that oil.

Trump 2016 (8/11):

(Obama) is the founder of ISIS. He's the founder of ISIS. He's the founder. He founded ISIS. He was the founder of ISIS, absolutely," Trump said on CNBC on Thursday. "The way he removed our troops — you shouldn't have gone in. I was against the war in Iraq. Totally against it." (Trump was not against the war as he has repeatedly claimed.) "The way he got out of Iraq was that that was the founding of ISIS, OK?

Trump 2018:

We'll be coming out of Syria, like, very soon. Let the other people take care of it now.

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First, I'd get out of Iraq right now. And by the way, I am the greatest hawk who ever lived, a far greater hawk even than Bush. I am the most militant military human being who ever lived.

LOL! Thanks for that.

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Nothing to worry about. According to liberals Trump never does anything he says anyway so no way to “Telegraph” anything.

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Nice research there @Laguna, appreciated.

Reading accounts of Trump's hopeless mumbling inarticulate piffle is possibly more painful than listening to it.

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theFritzX: "good on Trump! US should never have been meddling in Syria. It was Obama who started that"

And yet, you guys claim Afghanistan and Iraq are Obama's wars, with some posters on here literally saying Obama started them.

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Nothing to worry about. According to liberals Trump never does anything he says anyway so no way to “Telegraph” anything.

Do you trust what comes out of Trump’s mouth when he’s grandstanding in front of an audience?

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Like very soon, eh?

Babbling idiot.

Yeah, if only certain idiots would have enforced their Red Line threats, we might not be there anymore. Thanks a lot1

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Trump never does anything he says anyway

Yes, no wall or Hillary arrest. Also, he failed to declare China a currency manipulator. It's OK the stock market is up. But his approval rating is low for such a high stock market performance. Also, US's debt is in record highs. What happened to Trump's promise to negotiate the debt.

we might not be there anymore

No, we are there because of Trump. This is all on Trump since he is president now. Just like it's 100% Trump's doing that the stock market is doing well (has nothing to do with President Hillary). It is 100% Trump's fault that we are in Syria (it also has nothing to do with President Hillary).

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Yeah, if only certain idiots would have enforced their Red Line threats, we might not be there anymore. Thanks a lot1

So what do you think of Trump’s comment?

Do you have an opinion?

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Yeah, if only certain idiots would have enforced their Red Line threats, 

How long has Dumpster Fire Donny been at the helm? Long enough to have already withdrawn the troops multiple times.

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So what do you think of Trump’s comment?

Do you have an opinion?

Let others take care of it, I agree.

How long has Dumpster Fire Donny been at the helm? Long enough to have already withdrawn the troops multiple times.

Why the last moonbat didn’t do it?

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Why the last moonbat didn’t do it?

That has no bearing on why Dumpster Don hasn't done it. He's certainly had more than enough time.

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Let others take care of it, I agree.

Well, of course you agree. Trump said it.

I’m probably wasting my time asking if you agree he should have said this the way he did. Didn’t he say the last guy was stupid for letting others know what he was going to do in advance in situations like this?

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That has no bearing on why Dumpster Don hasn't done it. He's certainly had more than enough time.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, but why the last moonbat didn’t do it, he had 8 years, hated war.....hmmmm

Well, of course you agree. Trump said it. 

To a small point.

I’m probably wasting my time asking if you agree he should have said this the way he did. Didn’t he say the last guy was stupid for letting others know what he was going to do in advance in situations like this?

Leaving is different from engaging the enemy and he always wanted to leave. The President had held that position of being involved in overseas conflicts for years when he was a loose liberal.

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I support the US getting out of Syria, but I doubt Trump is being sincere in his comments.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, but why the last moonbat didn’t do it, he had 8 years, hated war.....hmmmm

The last presidents is no longer relevant. Why hasn't Trump done this sooner?

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Eighteen years and no resolution. Good thing these combatants were not playing war games in the early 40's. Intend to remove the means to resist and the will to resist from ones enemy or it is all an exercise in childish futility.

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That would be nice. The reason why it's a mess is because the US was there to begin with. Trump wanted to withdraw but it's not just up to him. He makes vague promises because the decision mostly isn't made by him. So I doubt this will happen anytime soon.

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Crazy: "Trump took credit for ISIS being defeated when all he did was continue US policy as set up by Obama."

Um, no, Trump gave U.S. commanders on the ground the go-ahead to make decisions on their own rather than having all the the decisions made by pencil pushers.

Cripes, if Trump had announced the opposite, saying he's going to put more troops in Syria, you'd have a fit, lol.

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The last presidents is no longer relevant. Why hasn't Trump done this sooner?

Because the last one didn’t have for some strange reason the will or fortitude to get the troops out and now here we are and the current President is left with cleaning up the kitchen.

That would be nice. The reason why it's a mess is because the US was there to begin with. Trump wanted to withdraw but it's not just up to him. He makes vague promises because the decision mostly isn't made by him. So I doubt this will happen anytime soon.

Precisely.

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The Japanese article I read in NHK indicated that he may have been speaking only of troops in Northern Syria, near the Turkish border. If the US isn't arming the Kurds that probably won't matter very much in any case. Basically this looks like an administration still at war with itself on Syria and one that has very few ideas on how to deal with the post-ISIS environment.

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Crazy: Trump took credit for ISIS being defeated when all he did was continue US policy as set up by Obama. 

Got to love the partisan revisionist history. If that were the case Obama could have defeated the JV team in six months. But as we know, Obama’s ineptitude led to years of fruitless fighting. Trump came into office and completely revamped the military strategy in Syria. Guess you missed the announcement. Less than a year later and Obama’s JV team was literally wiped out. Obama’s feckless policy was gone when ISIS was run out of Iraq and Syria.

It is way past time for the US to end its involvement in Obama’s war. Obama invited Russia into Syria in order to wiggle out of his failed red line gambit. Let the Ruskies have their client state - it would be impossible to eject them now after Obama served it up for Putin on a silver plater.

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Trump came into office and completely revamped the military strategy in Syria. Guess you missed the announcement. Less than a year later and Obama’s JV team was literally wiped out.

Can you give us a timeline of areas gained/lost and changes that were made as a result of the new strategy? I'd be curious to pick your brain.

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Because the last one didn’t have for some strange reason the will or fortitude to get the troops out and now here we are and the current President is left with cleaning up the kitchen.

So why has Trump waited so long to clean up the kitchen?

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Can you give us a timeline of areas gained/lost and changes that were made as a result of the new strategy? I'd be curious to pick your brain.

I’m curious if you are in denial of Obama’s failure and of Trumps success in routing ISIS.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-27838034

You can get a timeline yours

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Trump wanted to withdraw but it's not just up to him.

This is an incorrect statement. The Commander-in-Chief can order military forces home at any time.

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Funny to read a poster decry partisolan historical revision in the first sentence and then promptly follow that sentence with partisan historical revision.

If that were the case Obama could have defeated the JV team in six months. But as we know, Obama’s ineptitude led to years of fruitless fighting.

Trump continuing Obama's policies has no bearing on whether Obama could have defeated ISIS in 6 months.

Obama invited Russia into Syria in order to wiggle out of his failed red line gambit. 

Not quite. Assad invited the Russians in to save his regime. Obama and Russia agreed that Syria's chemical weapons had to go.

A little research goes a long way towards accuracy.

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Wolf, I don’t think you’re really going to be able to grasp the data I’m looking for.

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I’m curious if you are in denial of Obama’s failure and of Trumps success in routing ISIS.

The articlevyou linked does not support this proposition.

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Wolf, I don’t think you’re really going to be able to grasp the data I’m looking for.

If the data you're looking for incorrectly casts aspersions on Obama, Wolf will be able to grasp it. If it's based in fact, probably not.

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So why has Trump waited so long to clean up the kitchen?

Why was the Red Line not enforced or the removal promise of Assad?

This is an incorrect statement. The Commander-in-Chief can order military forces home at any time.

And he didn't and now Trump is setting his sights on doing it.

Trump continuing Obama's policies has no bearing on whether Obama could have defeated ISIS in 6 months.

But when he was President, Bush was referenced every single time and it was ok and to be honest, I agree to a large point, but now, it's well that was the past? Sorry, it goes both ways and are both legitimate questions. 8 years and the man could have talked to his military senior advisors about a possible and slow withdrawal, he didn't and why is that? So now Trump is left with a dirty kitchen, so after a year of working on getting the country out of the terrible slump that it was in and still in many areas still is, now he can turn his sights on Syria and that isn's something that happens overnight, would be nice, but it will take time, so if he gets ready now, the withdrawal process can be done within the next 3-4 years.

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Obama gets out of Iraq.

The right: He is WRONG, we need to be there FOREVER.

Trump says he wants to get out of Syria.

The right: Obama was WRONG. We should have gotten out of Syria. We needed to be out of there NOW.

The hypocrisy never ends.

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Obama gets out of Iraq.

The right: He is WRONG, we need to be there FOREVER.

I didn't think so, after getting rid of Saddam, I felt we should have left especially after the SOFA agreement was established, but well Obama decided to throw that out.

Trump says he wants to get out of Syria.

The right: Obama was WRONG. We should have gotten out of Syria. We needed to be out of there NOW.

But If you don't follow your own threats to oust Assad, then you look like a fool.

As soon as we possibly can, getting Assad out is impossible and then who are the rebels? ISIS members, so it's just a complete mess. get out, now is a good time to start the process,

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Why was the Red Line not enforced or the removal promise of Assad?

This is irrelevant as to why Dumpster Fire Donny hasn't gotten us out of Syria yet. Donny's had a year.

You haven't answered that simple question. Every time it's posed, you run back to the Obama administration in your time machine.

And he didn't and now Trump is setting his sights on doing it.

Trump needed over a year to determine something needed to be done about the troops in Syria. If the "red line" were so important that you need to bring it up instead of answering a simple question, Trump would have done more sooner.

8 years and the man could have talked to his military senior advisors about a possible and slow withdrawal, he didn't and why is that?

We weren't in Syria for 8 years.

You could save yourself a lot of time and energy by just answering the question instead of trying to obfuscate. Why has it taken Dumpster Don so long to do this? If it was such a great/necessary move, it wouldn't have taken over a year.

So now Trump is left with a dirty kitchen, so after a year of working on getting the country out of the terrible slump that it was in and still in many areas still is,

Terrible slump from climbing markets, dropping unemployment, etc. Getting the country out of that by addiding to the debt and deficit. Riiiight.

now he can turn his sights on Syria and that isn's something that happens overnight, would be nice, but it will take time, so if he gets ready now, the withdrawal process can be done within the next 3-4 years.

So you're going to give Trump 3-4 years to get out, but we were only in Syria for 2-3 years under Obama. Got ya.

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I didn't think so, after getting rid of Saddam, I felt we should have left especially after the SOFA agreement was established, but well Obama decided to throw that out.

A SOFA means we aren't going anywhere. Why would we negotiate a SOFA if we were going to leave? Brilliant logic.

 so it's just a complete mess. get out, now is a good time to start the process,

Now, but not just after Donny took office. Got it.

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I didn't think so, after getting rid of Saddam, I felt we should have left

And base is Trumpping again. You regularly criticized Obama for leaving Iraq. Do you think we don't read your posts or forget what you have written?

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if you are in denial of Obama’s failure and of Trumps success in routing ISIS.

I don't recall ISIS attacking American soil. Do you? When did ISIS attack US soil under Obama? Also, look at all of Trump's failures anyway? Debt, no arrest of presidents Hillary or Obama. He is attacking amazon.com which is a great American innovator. Look at how Trump has become China's puppy like what happened with Putin. China simply said that Trump was a great man. As long as other people/countries simply say Trump was a great man they win Trump over. As long as Trump feels like he is liked then he is happy with that person/country- like China since he doesn't consider them a currency manipulator and China is not walking all over Trump.

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This is irrelevant as to why Dumpster Fire Donny hasn't gotten us out of Syria yet. Donny's had a year.

So his first priority should be international affairs and not the country? Smart move...as opposed to the man that had 8 long years to do so and didn’t.

You haven't answered that simple question. Every time it's posed, you run back to the Obama administration in your time machine.

I did, scroll up.

Trump needed over a year to determine something needed to be done about the troops in Syria. If the "red line" were so important that you need to bring it up instead of answering a simple question, Trump would have done more sooner.

So why didn’t he do it? Chicken?

We weren't in Syria for 8 years.

But Obama didn’t and Afghanistan, Russia, Iran influence, same thing, so he could’ve, but didn’t, sad, very sad. But now Trump mentioned it, I’m all for it. Let’s go.

Terrible slump from climbing markets, dropping unemployment, etc. Getting the country out of that by addiding to the debt and deficit. Riiiight.

Huh?? Oh, ROFL yeah...

So you're going to give Trump 3-4 years to get out, but we were only in Syria for 2-3 years under Obama. Got ya.

By best calculations if you do it right, yes.

A SOFA means we aren't going anywhere. Why would we negotiate a SOFA if we were going to leave? Brilliant logic.

That’s it flared up again and it all descended into sectarian chaos. I still remember Biden saying Iraq will be the greatest success of his new administration until they decided not o establish one, good old Joe. Smh.

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We weren't in Syria for 8 years.

retorted with this:

But Obama didn’t and Afghanistan, Russia, Iran influence, same thing, so he could’ve, but didn’t, sad, very sad. But now Trump mentioned it, I’m all for it. Let’s go.

All I've got to say is crooked McMaster and Comey didn't and North Korea, Myanmar, Planned Parenthood/PBS influence, dirty cops and Benghazi plutonium, same thing, so Trump could've, but didn't, sad, very sad. But now I mentioned it, I'm all for it. Let's go.

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So his first priority should be international affairs and not the country? Smart move...as opposed to the man that had 8 long years to do so and didn’t.

We've been over this numerous times. Obama had to clean up the mess conservatives left him. You know, a tanked stock market and frozen economy. Given that the stock market continuously improved under Obama, your assertion that he did nothing domestically is completely incorrect.

Not to fall too far into your obfuscation, let's get back to Trump. Given he's done very little in his first year domestically, he had plenty of time to get out of Syria. Or, are you seriously saying such an amazing businessperson is incapable of multitasking?

So why didn’t he do it? Chicken?

Given the discussion is about why it took Trump so long to act, Obama's inaction is irrelevant I do love the ad hominem attack though. Very sophisticated.

But now Trump mentioned it, I’m all for it. Let’s go.

And that's all it takes for you to fall in line.

That’s it flared up again and it all descended into sectarian chaos. I still remember Biden saying Iraq will be the greatest success of his new administration until they decided not o establish one, good old Joe. Smh.

None of this changes your incorrect assertion that we were smart to leave after the SOFA was negotiated. Again, if we left, we wouldn't need a SOFA. ROFL. Kuddos.

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Plastic: Brilliant.

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But Obama didn’t and Afghanistan, Russia, Iran influence, same thing, so he could’ve, but didn’t, sad, very sad

The only retort that matters to Bass: But Obama . . .

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Given that the stock market continuously improved under Obama,

Riiiiiiight . . . Is that what the deep state far left MSM are saying now? ROFL, smh

Keep it coming. I'll just enjoy my cheerios.

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so Trump could've, but didn't, sad, very sad. But now I mentioned it, I'm all for it. Let's go.

Yes, then the left would have started crying again, this idiot is more concerned with making Syria his first priority over the country, impeach him. Thank God he took care of the country first, t(e military and now moving on to the failed Syria conflict that the Previous President had years to do something and decided to kick that can down the word, what a shame.

We've been over this numerous times. Obama had to clean up the mess conservatives left him.

So that’s your excuse, all of 8 years? If you say that, he was even more of a fool than I previously thought.

Or, are you seriously saying such an amazing businessperson is incapable of multitasking?

After a year....timing seems right, so what was your guys excuse? Trying to undermine the incoming President or cleaning up all his finger prints?

And that's all it takes for you to fall in line.

Seems like you’re in agreement as well, so right back at cha!

None of this changes your incorrect assertion that we were smart to leave after the SOFA was negotiated. Again, if we left, we wouldn't need a SOFA.

And that’s why the country went to....and where was Biden after he made that triumphant speech on Larry King? Nowhere to be found.....lol

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I’ll stick with more reliable sources

Like Info Wars

he was even more of a fool than I previously thought.

But Trump is king of failure. He is failing to get the troops out of Syria. He failed even before he said it. Hannity and Friends don't even take it seriously. Quote:

The decision to cut the speech off by the networks was criticised by some in the White House, including a senior member of the staff.

And this include FOX News. They cut Trump off.

And we have the other failures like no wall, the way he is dealing with China, not investigating Presidents Obama and Hillary for wire tapping, And many others.

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Neither left nor right, no ideology just straight up facts.

Not Hannity and Friends? They don't have straight up facts? Trump gets his news and presidential advice from Hannity and his FOX friends all the time. Hannity helps Trump run the country and helps write laws like the Muslim ban and wall (which are failures). Also Hannity keeps telling Trump that he needs to have President Hilary arrested....but no arrest.

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Thank God he took care of the country first, t(e military and now moving on to the failed Syria conflict 

You're telling us that the president who governs by tweet was too busy (98 visits to his golf courses) over the past year to do what he has just done, i.e. blurt out in a rambling and incoherent speech to fans in Ohio that he is pulling out of Syria without consulting anybody?

Wow. What a leader. Double ice cream for this genius, and single for everybody else.

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So that’s your excuse, all of 8 years? If you say that, he was even more of a fool than I previously thought.

Not an excuse. That it took 8 years is a testament to how effed up the country was bevausevof conservatives. Of course, you'll give Trump infinitely more time to "fix the country."

If the countrry were so broken after Obama, why were all economic indicators on the rise? How did they suddenly continue to rise once Trump was inaugurated?

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After a year....timing seems right, so what was your guys excuse?

The timing wasn't right.

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And that’s why the country went to....and where was Biden after he made that triumphant speech on Larry King? Nowhere to be found.....lol

Because we left or because we signed a SOFA allowing us to stay?

Now we need to bring Biden in. Okay. Mission Accomplished.

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You're telling us that the president who governs by tweet was too busy (98 visits to his golf courses) over the past year to do what he has just done, i.e. blurt out in a rambling and incoherent speech to fans in Ohio that he is pulling out of Syria without consulting anybody?

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That would be more the part of the Pentagon to play, but I wouldn’t know exactly as to all the intricate details as I’m not employed by the WH.

Not an excuse. That it took 8 years is a testament to how effed up the country was bevausevof conservatives

And it’ll take another to pull it out of its bleak stagnation, minus the identity politics.

The timing wasn't right

PC taking priority, I get it.

Because we left or because we signed a SOFA allowing us to stay?

He didn’t.

Now we need to bring Biden in. Okay. Mission Accomplished.

Oh, please do. ROFL

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And it’ll take another to pull it out of its bleak stagnation

No, wrong. Trump is now saying the US is doing great because he's president. He said America is great now. He said black unemployment is down because of him. Also, he says the stock market gains are because of him .

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Bass: Why was the Red Line not enforced or the removal promise of Assad?

Because Republicans voted down any chance of a strike. We’ve told you this before but you’ve have more memory loss issues:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Authorization_for_the_Use_of_Military_Force_Against_the_Government_of_Syria_to_Respond_to_Use_of_Chemical_Weapons

Before the authorization bill had even been drafted in the Senate, much less voted upon, there were already doubts being raised about whether any such measure would pass in the House.[33] Prior to Obama's announcement that he would seek Congressional approval, there had already been House Republicans that had announced their opposition to intervention in Syria, arguing that the civil war did not pose a threat to the United States.[33]

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Bass: I felt we should have left especially after the SOFA agreement was established, but well Obama decided to throw that out.

More memory loss issues on your part. We’ve been over this already as well:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.–Iraq_Status_of_Forces_Agreement

Bush signed a SOFA to remove all Troops from Iraq. You might remember the announcement as the “shoe throwing incident” which, despite my lack of respect for Bush, showed some mad dodging skills. Obama tried to renegotiate the SOFA to extend it, but Iraq refused to go along its it unless they had the right to prosecute US soldiers, which we won’t do.

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@ Tommy: Not quite. Assad invited the Russians in to save his regime. Obama and Russia agreed that Syria's chemical weapons had to go.

A little research goes a long way towards accuracy.

More revisionist history to avoid Obama’s accountability for Russian influence in Syria. Obama’s red line deal gave Russia a clean entre’ into Syria. Of course Assad wanted their allies in. But with the US already operating in the country Russia could not. Obama made a threat that he was too to carry out. After that his credibility was shot in the region.

A little research goes a long way towards avoiding ridiculous errors in fact.

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It’s so very hard to help those who are not willing to help themselves. Even if we stabilize Syria prior to withdrawal, little would have been accomplished if ISIS returns and the Syrians offer no resistance. This is a national problem throughout the Middle Eastren countries and a Prime example of what happens when a country doesn’t enforce its Borders. The Middle East, Europe and the Umuted States are experiencing the same problems disguised as “ humanitarian “ and it’s draining their own identities and Financial reserves to the point that their own citizens and inner structures are suffering many quality of life shortfalls.

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A little research goes a long way towards avoiding ridiculous errors in fact.

Agreed. Like these errors in fact:

Obama’s red line deal gave Russia a clean entre’ into Syria. Of course Assad wanted their allies in. But with the US already operating in the country Russia could not. Obama made a threat that he was too to carry out. After that his credibility was shot in the region.

Assad invited the Russians in and there was nothing the US could do to stop Vlad going in.

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About the only thing I agree with Trump on.

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The important thing is to get the right information out there. Now that the record has been set straight you can make chicken noises all you want if that’s how you choose to handle being corrected.

The other benefit is to expose your sources as people who intentionally prey on your lack of knowledge and research.

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Tommy: Assad invited the Russians in and there was nothing the US could do to stop Vlad going in.

Syria’s civil war was ongoing for many years prior to Obama’s red line fiasco. Assad could have invited Russia in at any time it wished to use its military force to buttress the regimes forces. Yet he never did. Why do you think Russia remained uninvolved directly within Syria until Obama looked to Putin to bail him out?

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Why do you think Russia remained uninvolved directly within Syria until Obama looked to Putin to bail him out?

More of that historical revisionism. Remember that research we talked about and how it'd help you not be incorrect? Well, here you go:

*The Russian military involvement follows a request from President Bashar Assad to President Vladimir Putin**, according to Syria's state news agency, which reports that Assad asked for Russia's intervention in a letter that cited Russia's efforts to fight terrorism.*

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/09/30/444679327/russia-begins-conducting-airstrikes-in-syria-at-assads-request

Your proposition is that Obama, who called for Assad to leave and armed the opposition forces, asked Putin to intervene in Syria to prop up Assad is self defeating. Keep trying, Champ. You'll get it someday, Tiger.

Are we going to continue with me correcting the conservative falsehoods about this that you are trying to spread? We did it yesterday with the conservative falsehoods you were attempting to spread regarding Mueller's highly successful investigation.

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The important thing is to get the right information out there. Now that the record has been set straight you can make chicken noises all you want if that’s how you choose to handle being corrected.

That would depend on what you want to take as record, the real or the fabricated one and I prefer to take the one not created in the world of liberal make believe.

The other benefit is to expose your sources as people who intentionally prey on your lack of knowledge and research.

Not my sources, I don't make history, just tell it how it was written.

Your proposition is that Obama, who called for Assad to leave and armed the opposition forces, asked Putin to intervene in Syria to prop up Assad is self defeating. Keep trying, Champ. You'll get it someday, Tiger.

That was not the issue or excuse, he could have done something, he always unilaterally did and did nothing, odd. Scared, not up for the job, pass and kick the can, very strange.

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That would depend on what you want to take as record, the real or the fabricated one and I prefer to take the one not created in the world of liberal make believe.

We all know that you prefer the record created in conservative lala-land because it affirms your incorrect opinions. The rest of us prefer facts from reality.

Not my sources, I don't make history, just tell it how it was written.

Yes, you tell it like it was written in dishonest sources that twist reality to fit the conservative worldview.

That was not the issue or excuse, he could have done something, he always unilaterally did and did nothing, odd. Scared, not up for the job, pass and kick the can, very strange.

First, the post you quoted and replied to wasn't about leaving Syria, which is what you reply was about. More irrelevance from you.

Second, you are doing what you always do: Describing what Obama should have done in a given situation by taking actions you have exaorciated him in the past for having taken.

You: Obama should have taken stronger action in Syria after the red line comment.

Us: He tried to ask congress and it said no.

You: He should have taken unilateral action like he did on DACA, butnof course was wrong to do on DACA.

It is the same with the conservative created wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. You say he should have ended those wars and because he didn't, the costs are his fault. Had he ended those wars, you would have complained that he left a vacuum, etc.

. . .

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls! What we have here is intellectual dishonesty at its finest.

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theFritzX:

good on Trump! US should never have been meddling in Syria. It was Obama who started that.

It was probably Gilgamesh who started the trouble when he cut down the Cedar Forest to transport the wood to Mesopotamia.

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CrazyJoeMar. 30 03:00 pm JST

This is amazing. he condemned Obama for telegraphing and now he does it. Does he remember anything he ever says?

As for Syria just what has been accomplished? Trump took credit for ISIS being defeated when all he did was continue US policy as set up by Obama.

No it was Obama that was supporting the foreign fighters in Syria DT turned the tap off and since then ISIS and its supporters have collapsed - True the Russians did bulk of the work but at least the mess is coming to and end maybe Western Countries should butt out of local affairs in the future.

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Barely-informed conservatives sure are quite. Perhaps the they are trying to work out an argument to refute the assertion that Texas is a break-away province of Mexico.

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Syria has bee a colossal waste of lives and money and a crucial part of the history of civilization destroyed.  and for what?  because a bunch of Western governments wanted to "promote freedom"......

DT may be a dummy on a lot of things, but about time this was ended.

BTW, why is this termed a "populist" speech?

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Cripes, if Trump had announced the opposite, saying he's going to put more troops in Syria, you'd have a fit, lol.

This. It's amazing to see Trump turn a bunch of liberals into war hawks.

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