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Trump says — without evidence — that Democrats are behind migrant 'caravan'

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Somebody give the president a tin-foil hat. His supporters are already equipped.

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Ah, Trump! A man who, despite evidence, still believes a group of black men are responsible for a rape and murder they did not commit. A man who, despite getting evidence after he demanded it, claims Saudi Arabia did not kill the reporter. A man who stood by Kavanaugh and Roy Moore despite evidence of their sexual assaults and pedophilia says, "innocent until proven guilty", then when proven guilty claims they have been proven innocent. A man who is so sure of the crap he makes up be bets, in front of the world, that a woman is not of Native American heritage and that he'll pay $1M if she can prove it, then says he never said that when she proves it, then is reminded of it and says she can't prove it.

This is the man now suddenly making up more BS about Republicans without a shred of proof. They are guilty, even if proven innocent. That is Trump in a nutshell, and the saddest part is that posters on here and Trumpers in general will believe him.

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I have to pinch myself to believe so many Americans are happily willing to swallow this kind of blatant demagoguery, and can only conclude that things will only get worse. The saying "It can't happen here" is no longer valid for the USA.

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Trump says — without evidence — that Democrats are behind migrant 'caravan'

Is this a whole cloth fabrication by Trump or has this one been floating around?

The funniest ones tend to be ones he ripped off from trash tabloids.

His own usually lack wit.

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Is there nothing this charlatan can't politicize for his own benefit?  The great pontificator of lies and conspiracy theories goes even deeper into the dumpster.  Sure Democrats passed out money so these folks would come North - this caravan fiction wasn't even a news story until Trump and Faux News made it one.   

Trump's level of depravity, like that of his Master Putin, knows no bounds...

That is Trump in a nutshell, and the saddest part is that posters on here and Trumpers in general will believe him.

Absolutely true - and it will lead to the downfall of our country - which is exactly what Putin wants....

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This is from a Montana newspaper prior to Trump's beer hall rally there:

Donald Trump comes to Missoula this Thursday, and when he does, he's going to — get this — accuse other human beings of lying.

It's the play of every authoritarian who ever ruled: accuse your enemies of that which you, yourself, are super-duper guilty.

https://missoulian.com/opinion/columnists/as-trump-speaks-in-missoula-remember-his-lies/article_3a65c3a4-478a-50f2-a888-813c0db0e744.html

Trump's the master of the big-lie, emulating despots past and present.

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An aware individual would understand that this is not the best moment to commend violence against the press.

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A man who, despite getting evidence after he demanded it, claims Saudi Arabia did not kill the reporter.

No, the man is walking a very line and as he should with the Saudis, I know liberals couldn’t care because the economy of the US means nothing to them, so they would just punish them and punish the everyone else in this country. Like it or not, we need the Saudis.

A man who stood by Kavanaugh and Roy Moore despite evidence of their sexual assaults and pedophilia says, "innocent until proven guilty", then when proven guilty claims they have been proven innocent.

Whoa! Give me a break! You don’t know if Kavanaugh is guilty of anything, he swore an oath under the penalty of perjury, the man is a judge with almost 30 years experience, why would he throw his career down the toilet. Even Susan Collins, the lefts favorite liberal Republican said the testimony of Ford didn’t hold up beyond a reasonable doubt. She just was not that credible, even with the FBI reports completed, the left still complained and continue to do so.

A man who is so sure of the crap he makes up be bets,in front of the world, that a woman is not of Native American heritage and that he'll pay $1M if she can prove it, then says he never said that when she proves it, then is reminded of it and says she can't prove it. *

Even the Cherokee nation excoriated and called foul on Warren’s embarrassing attempt to ride the coattails of a proud Native American tribe, shame on her! So I wouldn’t give her squat as well.

This is the man now suddenly making up more BS about Republicans without a shred of proof.

And the lefts proof? Oh, wait....

They are guilty, even if proven innocent. That is Trump in a nutshell, and the saddest part is that posters on here and Trumpers in general will believe him.

Over the sneaky scheming Democrats, yes, sir.

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Yes - Trump stuck both feet in his mouth in his latest speech. Pretty wild stuff.

I agree with most comments.

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Trump appeared to be referring to an unfounded allegation promoted by ally Rep. Matt Gaetz of Florida. 

Gaetz is a dude who has appeared on Info Wars, brought a Holocaust denier along to Trump's SOTU address, and recently questioned whether Jamal Khashoggi was really a journalist or whose fate is worth being concerned about.

He also seems to be as eager as master lickspittle Devin Nunes to make up whatever crap will please his Lord and Savior Donald J. Trump.

Still, it amazes and depresses me how many dumb people there are in the U.S.

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Trump also heaped praise on Republican Rep. Greg Gianforte, who pleaded guilty to misdemeanor assault after attacking a reporter in 2017. "Any guy that can do a body slam, he's my kind of guy," Trump said. "He's a great guy, tough cookie."

He must love the Saudis then...

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This is a completely staged event. There's no doubt that if these invaders got in, the vast majority would vote Democrat as soon as the Democrats can get them their ID cards. Fortunately we have a president and a military to prevent this.

It costs at least 5 grand per person to do this. Someone is paying them.

The beauty of this though is it will backfire and contribute to the red wave coming November.

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Bring them in. Illegal voting can be the counterbalance to racist gerrymandering and vote suppression. It will all balance out in the end.

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This is a completely staged event. There's no doubt that if these invaders got in, the vast majority would vote Democrat as soon as the Democrats can get them their ID cards. Fortunately we have a president and a military to prevent this.

Pure insanity . . .

Wake me up when this is over.

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This is a completely staged event. There's no doubt that if these invaders got in, the vast majority would vote Democrat as soon as the Democrats can get them their ID cards. Fortunately we have a president and a military to prevent this.

It costs at least 5 grand per person to do this. Someone is paying them.

Surely you’ve got evidence to back this up.

A nutter in a basement on YouTube? Tucker Carlson?

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"Bring them in"

Will Stranger house all these illegals and pay for all their needs? No? Didn't think so. Doesn't matter, they're not coming in.

" Illegal voting can be the counterbalance to racist gerrymandering and vote suppression. It will all balance out in the end."

Good grief... this statement would be considered ludicrous by the vast majority of citizens of any country.

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America has become a freakshow of the greatest magnitude. How on Earth could you devolve so low as to allow this guy in? The guy should have been impeached by now, and is certainly not fit to lead anyone!

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This is a completely staged event. There's no doubt that if these invaders got in, the vast majority would vote Democrat as soon as the Democrats can get them their ID cards. Fortunately we have a president and a military to prevent this.

Every time I think Trumpsters can't get get any more demented... I guess I shouldn't be surprised since this same group fell for PizzaGate and now think John Kennedy Jr isn't dead and is blogging on the Deep State from a basement in DC.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/QAnon

This caravan fantasy is nothing but Republican fiction to deflect from their shredding of constitutionally guaranteed voting rights for minority Americans.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2018/10/12/georgias-gop-gubernatorial-candidate-brian-kemp-sued-over-claims-of-suppressing-53000-minority-voters/?utm_term=.11ce8aaf4236

Shameful.

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Har!

Tell Putin that! He has punk'd Dump on several occasions!

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Let’s use the Kavanaugh attack. You can’t prove the Dems didn’t pay for it.

With them paying for the dossier there is already a precedent.

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There's no doubt that if these invaders got in, the vast majority would vote Democrat as soon as the Democrats can get them their ID cards.

That's Reagan. He Inked amnesty and gave away 3M free greencards.

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Man the guy is freakin off his tree....who in the right mind would believe the absolute bs that this nut job spits out on a daily basis..

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Well we don’t need to build a wall for this, Mexico IS the wall. They will not be allowing these illegals to pass through this time. Outgoing president agrees and new president won’t change it.

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They will not be allowing these illegals to pass through this time.

WRONG!! Hannity said they will allow them.

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"America has become a freakshow of the greatest magnitude"

Just the Democrats who can't come to terms with Trump's election.

"The guy should have been impeached by now"

On what grounds?

"and is certainly not fit to lead anyone!"

Wrong, best president since Lincoln.

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Well we don’t need to build a wall for this, Mexico IS the wall. They will not be allowing these illegals to pass through this time. Outgoing president agrees and new president won’t change it.

Ironically, in trying to be ironic, you actually pointed out a significantly more effective use of the money than building the wall - invest in assisting Mexico with keeping migrants from entering the US. If you can incentivize Mexico to police their side, way more immigrants will be kept out than a silly wall.

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Would not surprise me at all if they were, still, it would be nice to see some evidence.

They should be processed properly like all potential immigrants and/or refugees

Those attempting cross the border without being process should be IMMEDIATELY turned back at gun point if necessary. Enough is enough. You either have a border or you don't.

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He’s safe to lie like this. His supporters lack the spine to call him out.

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He’s safe to lie like this. His supporters lack the spine to call him out.

Most would think its a pretty solid theory to be honest.

America has two options

Devolve as much power as possible to the states so Americans can naturally filter to red and blue states of their choosing based on the laws they want, which is already happening anyway in a very major way.

Or split the country in half.

One of the two seems almost inevitable to me. The first is obviously a lot better for America.

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When did Trump ever need evidence for a tweet/statement?

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He’s safe to lie like this. His supporters lack the spine to call him out

If he’s wrong, sure. Now the Democrats, have been wrong a lot over the last 18 months and try has hard as I might, they still don’t learn. But they’re called out every single day.

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IMMEDIATELY turned back at gun point if necessary

Yes, Trump says shoot first and ask questions later. Like what they used to do at the Berlin wall.

They should be processed properly like all potential immigrants and/or refugees

Reagan did this 3 million times (literally)

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Yes, Trump says shoot first and ask questions later. Like what they used to do at the Berlin wall.

If you don't have workable physical impediments, like a wall (not that I think it would work in this case) or say like a large body of water surrounding the country like Australia (so damn lucky), then if a stream of people are coming into the country without any checks how is that feasible? How is that sustainable? A country is defined by many things and of them is its border. It is literally defined by it.

If you can't provide a physical stop and check sign that works, then yes, you need to put armed troops and do what is necessary.

Are you aware of anywhere else on the planet where crossing borders illegally is endorsed and tolerated?

I can't.

That's why its probably time to start thinking about physical impediments that work.

How about working with Mexico to improve its southern border. That would be a good start wouldn't it?

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I don't think the Democratic party is paying anything to help the "caravan". I do think that a tiny minority of open-border lefties, who happen to vote democratic, ARE paying. Technically, it isn't "Democrats", which makes Trumps claim untrue.

The only people who are legally allowed to request asylum in the USA are from Canada, Mexico, or if they arrive on an airplane or boat. Everyone else is breaking international law by not requesting asylum at the first country they enter away from their country.

Look at a map. If these people really were asylum seekers, they'd get to Guatemala and stop. Guatemalians would get to Mexico and stop.

For economic migrants, they should head south to Costa Rica and Panama. Both are nice places, Spanish speaking, with reasonable economies. The culture shock would still happen, but it wouldn't be as bad as trying to live in the USA illegally.

The USA needs to setup their immigration to be more like Japan's.

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Look at a map. If these people really were asylum seekers, they'd get to Guatemala and stop. Guatemalians would get to Mexico and stop.

That if they were asylum seekers who knew and were following the rules. That doesn’t mean that those who move in to the next country are not real asylum seekers. It just means they are trying to go outside the rules.

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Guilt by Accusation Card is a time honored legal principal with many precedents. The drive for acquisition of Power or Money is sufficient for this card to be implemented.

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@serrano got a link for all of that?

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Would not surprise me at all if they were, still, it would be nice to see some evidence.

It would be closer to ‘essential’ than ‘nice’ in normal circumstances.

Still, his supporters don’t care. No need for minor irritations like evidence.

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So Trump is a liar. There are no Democrats who support the caravan and neither do their allies...

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like Australia

How is that government healthcare?

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Matt:. If you can't provide a physical stop and check sign that works, then yes, you need to put armed troops and do what is necessary.

I don't want my tax dollars going towards ineffective, emotional policy.

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@Northern

Ingraham: The caravan of lies and manipulation

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUdF_5GS2Qk

Before you dismiss it out of hand, try watching it and learn something.

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@serrano yeah it was awesome..

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Donald J. Trump, the chief purveyor of fake news, disinformation and misinformation, continues to be the main threat to U.S. national security and world wellbeing.

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He must love the Saudis then...

body slamming LOL thats for amateurs, Reporter Sashimi and evidence disposal now thats the work or pros.

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How is that government healthcare?

Good for the most part.

Of course its not free. For most people on Medicare, you pay up front for doctors appointments and get a proportion back automatically and electronically into your bank. If you pay $150, you get back maybe $70 - $90. You also pay for it every year at tax time with the Medicare Levy which has been around for years.

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No evidence - but of course. It suits him to believe what he wants. Saudi Arabia kills a journalist, he downplays the mounting evidence. That "Russian thing" - he downplays and obstructs.

Everything that doesn't fit into his narrow world view is fake. The issues he does get worked up comes from Fox, Breitbart, Sinclair and actual purveyors of misleading commentary and fake news.

Like it or not, we need the Saudis.

Tell that to the relatives of those who died on 9/11.

Tell that to the thousands dead in Yemen.

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Of course its not free.

Catastrophic care? Like trauma? Getting shot in the chest and clinging to life or a situation where the fire department has to peel the sheet metal off your almost-dead body in a terrible car accident and air lift you in an attempt to save your life? Or perhaps a serious case of cancer? I heard the worse it is the less you have to pay. That is real healthcare. Not something trivial like going to the skin doctor for a wart.

Who said govt. healthcare it was free?

Trump is taking it the opposite direction now. My advise is if you go the US hospital just don't pay (in that case it would be free as you are making it someone else's problem)

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I guess democrat operatives in Honduras handing out George Soros money to instigate these people isn't enough evidence for left wingers. This is how democrats work. They organize riots, lynchings, they started the Arab spring war for their political gain, organizing this migrant group is well within the Democrat party playbook

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I guess democrat operatives in Honduras handing out George Soros money to instigate these people isn't enough evidence for left wingers

I guess not . . .

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I guess democrat operatives in Honduras handing out George Soros money to instigate these people isn't enough evidence for left wingers

Let us know if that ever actually happens in reality, and we'll let you know whether or not it's enough evidence.

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Appears the juice box "journalist" who filed this story and the editors at the AP (All Progressive) do not know how to access President Trump's Twitter account; otherwise, they would have known he posted a Tweet about this very subject this hit piece is whining about yesterday morning.

The Left's stupidity continues to abound.

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Just a friendly reminder, the deplorables don't like being called stupid. And a very predictable deplorable reaction to being demeaned and belittled is to go out and vote. Better hope that more deplorables don't read Japan Today comments because the level of self righteous "othering" here would almost certainly add a good tail wind to the red wave coming next month.

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The USA, where ENFORCING Immigration is “Immoral”, but anywhere ELSE

on Earth is o.k.

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Don’t know about this particular case but Trump has been right on many issues that were believed to be incredible or thought to be pure speculation. On this as in many cases, time will tell.

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The phrase "without evidence" is redundant when quoting Trump; nothing he says has a basis in logic or fact.

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Trump says — without evidence — that Democrats are behind migrant 'caravan'

And when someone accuses a Supreme Court nominee of a nearly 40-years-ago sexual assault without evidence, and topped off with several discrepancies and inconsistencies, it's pushed as gospel truth by lefties like the ones running Japan Today.

Let's say it all together: Double Standards.

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The phrase "without evidence" is redundant when quoting Trump; nothing he says has a basis in logic or fact.

And what is YOUR basis in logic or fact for saying that?

Oh, sorry, I forgot. Liberals are above such requirements. They only apply to conservatives.

Trump has been right on far more things than I would expect a liberal like you to ever care to admit. And the country is in far better shape now as a result.

Trump has won and he is winning. It's a fact. Deal with it.

And we already know as a fact that the last caravan/wave of mass immigrants from Latin America, during the Obama administration, was indisputably the doing (at least partially) of the administration.

So, if the Dems were behind one "migrant wave," why is it unreasonable to think they'd be behind this one?

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Evidence or not the reality is that this large group is now being confronted by the Mexican feds. Around 100 or so have applied for refugee status. Others who don’t have the documentation will be deported back according to the Mexican govt. Finally Mexico City is showing some resolve on this immigration issue, The UN is also playing a part.

Need to secure all borders. Both Mexican & American.

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Trump can tell any lie, safe in the knowledge that the American people will not react.

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