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© 2019 AFPTrump says he would take info on 2020 presidential opponent from foreign countries
By Daniel WOOLLS WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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PTownsend
And only Trump's authoritarianist followers might believe a word Trump Jr. says. Like father, like son, after all.
The most dishonest president in modern history has attracted a like-minded base with zero regard for honesty.
Trump the corrupt businessman is an even more corrupt politician. Although Mitch McConnell with campaign contributions from big US corporations plus his Russian connections, together with his wife's high salaried role in the Trump admin plus her Chinese connections might be raking in just as much.
The Trump era will be remembered for a level of corruption never before seen in modern US politics.
Yubaru
Key word "I". What Trump THINKS is wrong and what in reality are wrong, are two different things. And that is the biggest problem with Trump.
If the US re-elects Trump, they, the American people, deserve any and all crap that the world delivers their way!
elephant200
This is what you got by putting a dirty businessman in the white house!
PTownsend
If that's investigated by the feds and shown to be the case, and it's determined what was done was illegal, charges should be brought.
NO US POLITICIAN should be seeking help from any foreign country.
And no US govt agency should provide help for foreign politicians.
CrazyJoe
After Clinton and Trump won their nominations, their campaigns were each briefed by the FBI as standard procedure, which included a reminder that if the campaign is approached by a foreign government for any reason, the FBI needs to be notified. That has been policy and procedure for many years, and a bill has just been introduced to make it a crime not to do so.
The entire trump criminal family should be indicted and taken to trial.
Sneezy
Remember when Al Gore's campaign anonymously received video copies of Bush's debate prep, and rather than watch it and get an invaluable bit of info, they called the FBI, handed over the material without looking at it, and alerted the Bush campaign that they had a leaker? Good times.
stormcrow
treason (Cambridge Dictionary):
(the crime of) showing no loyalty to your country, especially by helping its enemies or trying to defeat its government
If it looks lie treason, walks like treason and talks like treason, it's treason.
JustMyThoughts
I'm not certain what moral high ground people wish to attribute to my country's political past but I do recognize that some are making a lot of money with these fabricated story lines of Trump being the greatest offender of everything that is good about the USA.
Laguna
Hmm. The DNC database was hacked, and suddenly Russians are showing up at your door with that info - and then you egg them on. Y'see Donald, a huge gap exists between what you think is wrong and what moral people do.
Luddite
He's done it before, he'll do it again. Illegal, isn't it.
rainyday
Cue the entire GOP deciding that allowing hostile foreign powers to do this is totally OK from now on.
lincolnman
And there you have it - an open admission that he would collude with a foreign power to subvert our democracy. Maybe because he colluded to get elected?
So what do the Trumpers think of this? Do you think its OK for China to hack Trump's tax records and give them to to Joe Biden? What about Iran giving Wikileaks all Don Jr and Ivanka's e-mails, you know, those ones that talk about the Russian meeting in Trump Tower and Russian loans to the Trump Org?
Fair is fair, right?
rainyday
Just to be clear: every word of this is Trump's own words on tape.
Wakarimasen
All of the saintly Dem potential candidates have nothing to hide anyway.
ulysses
The rumbling that was heard all over America was from all the dead Republican Presidents rolling in their graves.
The GOP has turned into a party of traitors and their brainless , gutless followers.
Simon Foston
JustMyThoughtsToday 02:36 pm JST
What's "fabricated" about this one? The words came from Trump himself.
Chip Star
This will stop all the Trumpophiles from falsely claiming Clinton colluded with a foreign power for the Steele Dossier, correct?
Deadforgood
Probably just having a hard time realizing Trump said something he/she disagrees with.
serendipitous1
Just when you thought he couldn't lose the plot any further, he goes and lowers the bar yet again (and it was already lower than sea level!).
Toasted Heretic
Well, there it is. Admitting and open to collusion. All on tape and in broad daylight.
Impeachment now.
vinarius@pm.catv.ne.jp
Don't worry, trump has so much time that he will take time to fight with the world.
JustMyThoughts
What's fabricated is both the moral outrage, the never ending fantasies of legal knowledge.
Toasted Heretic
Nothing fabricated. Here's your leader admitting he's willing to collude with foreign interference. That's not a good look, no matter how his supporters spin it.
Simon Foston
JustMyThoughtsToday 05:22 pm JST
Sorry, that just looks like a bunch of random words strung together.
Then again, when Trump comes out with stuff like this there can't be a whole lot else you could manage in his defense.
wtfjapan
What's fabricated is both the moral outrage
yes it is an outrage that a sitting POTUS would accept foreign information / advice over his own countres intelligence and it is also a nation security issue.
wtfjapan
Sorry, that just looks like a bunch of random words strung together.
well you know Trump derangement syndrome is contagious
lincolnman
First, kudos for being the only Trumper to post anything on this thread - all the others are MIA...go figure...
But you're absolutely wrong, The moral outrage isn't fabricated - it's deeply sincere - no one wants a foreign power interfering in our election - except Donnie and Vlad. Think of all the rulers of countries out there that hate America - for having free and open elections, for allowing free speech, for separating church and state. Trump just gave them an open invitation to attack our democracy.
As for "never ending fantasies of legal knowledge" - sorry, haven't the faintest idea what that means.
And I'd be interested in your reply to my question to Trumpers;
Do you think its OK for China to hack Trump's tax records and give them to Joe Biden? What about Iran giving Wikileaks all Don Jr and Ivanka's e-mails, you know, those ones that talk about the Russian meeting in Trump Tower and Russian loans to the Trump Org?
FizzBit
Granted I didn’t follow the thread but this was too funny. How did y’all go from “take info on 2020 presidential opponent from foreign countries” to “accept foreign information / advice over his own countres intelligence and it is also a nation security issue.”?
Information and advice are two different birds.
Simon Foston
FizzBitToday 05:59 pm JST
I don't think anyone went anywhere, given that "take info... from foreign countries" and "accept foreign information" look like pretty much the same thing to me.
Anyone else think this is just hair-splitting?
JustMyThoughts
What?
''First, kudos for being the only Trumper to post anything on this thread - all the others are MIA...go figure..."
I've never voted Republican in my life! But your assumption is exactly what this thread is all about. Everyone is on a side, has a pre-fabricated opinion that was fead to them by an endless consumption of thier own 'media of choice'.
JustMyThoughts
lincolnman
Yes, I believe the people have a right to know any information that is available. You can imagine whatever hypotheticals you like.
Blacklabel
Imagine the idea that if you don’t want people getting your dirt, then don’t be dirty.
If you are proven dirty with factual evidence and my opponent for something why would I not look at it and use it?
yamada1043
The insufferable current occupant of the White House, confirms once again, he is unfit to be President of the United States of America (POTUS).
lincolnman
Not following you...you seem fixated on "hypotheticals"...
You've just given a full vote of support and justification for Hillary funding the Steele Dossier - well done. That was some switch - from "Lock Her Up" to "why not use it?"
And still waiting for a Trumper to answer the questions below;
Do you think its OK for China to hack Trump's tax records and give them to Joe Biden? What about Iran giving Wikileaks all Don Jr and Ivanka's e-mails, you know, those ones that talk about the Russian meeting in Trump Tower and Russian loans to the Trump Org?
Blacklabel
The point is that you say Hillary using a fake dossier from a UK spy with Russian sources is fine.
yet if trump gets true info even in a hypothetical situation it’s treason. Hypocritical much?
Blacklabel
Whose tax records did Trump hack and share? and if Don Jr and Ivanka are dumb enough to send emails like that, then they can be shared no problem. People should be informed.
lincolnman
I'm not saying anything, you are - perhaps you need reminded;
May want to read it again and then read this;
https://www.businessinsider.com/steele-dossier-allegations-trump-russia-mueller-investigation-2019-1#whats-been-corroborated-and-what-hasnt-2
Thanks again for supporting Hillary's use of the Steele dossier...
By the way, for the third time, care to answer the questions below;
Do you think its OK for China to hack Trump's tax records and give them to Joe Biden? What about Iran giving Wikileaks all Don Jr and Ivanka's e-mails, you know, those ones that talk about the Russian meeting in Trump Tower and Russian loans to the Trump Org?
lincolnman
4th time - still no answer....why's it so hard?
Blacklabel
I answered your question at 7:19
Blacklabel
So Hillary and the dossier is fine? Then If Trump gets foreign info it’s fine too. Why the liberal double standards?
JustMyThoughts
Hey lincolnman,
What are you looking for? Is it OK to 'hack' data, maybe. Is it OK for Joe Biden to have Trumps tax records? I guess, that seems to be what everyone wants now days. So, why not, Yes.
Should wikileaks, leak. YES, everything. It should 'leak' everything or change it's name.
Do you understand. I have no issues with people having information.
Blacklabel
It is ok for the people to have any information that is true which makes its way to the public domain. No matter how it is obtained. Can’t be any more clear than that.
Problem with your dossier is that it’s fake.
lincolnman
Really? So its OK for the Chinese to hack Donnie's tax records and send them to Joe Biden? It's OK for Iran to hack Don Jr, Eric and Ivanka's e-mails and let Wikileaks release them?
How about the transcript from the meeting Trump had with Putin where there was no US interpreter - OK if Wikileaks releases that?
It's OK for Cuba to get Trump's communications with the Russians on Trump Tower Moscow and give it to the DNC?
You're OK with all of this?
And thanks again for the switch on the Steele Dossier - I was getting tired hearing about the "witch hunt"...
bass4funk
He’s just saying he would probably do what the Democrats did and now they’re having another meltdown? This is great! Lol
Chip Star
Which incentivizes foreign meddling in our elections. You are advocating for hostile powers to obtain private information and place it in the public domain.
Damn! I knew I paid Steele too much. He cashed the check last week; I just checked my banking records.
Simon Foston
BlacklabelToday 06:46 pm JST
Then that "factual evidence" should be presented in a court of law and I should be tried and convicted.
Because doing so would be illegal?
BlacklabelToday 07:14 pm JST
I say she should face the consequences of any wrongdoing if it's proven by the proper authorities that she's broken the law. You're not going to say the same about Donald Trump, are you.
JustMyThoughts
lincolnman
Why do you have issues with 'the people' having information. You continuously make up stories about hacking, spies, the boogie man. Give it a break. Yes, people should have information. I trust them to figure out what is correct. Not the government.
Chip Star
Then release Donny's tax returns.
Simon Foston
bass4funkToday 07:30 pm JST
Why is it great? The President you love is saying he would do the same thing as the Democrats, but you hate them so much you can't stop whining and ranting about them.
Blacklabel
Somehow Dems never make it to a court. FBI and CIA directors and Dem presidents protect them.
SuperLib
Sounds like Trump is asking for some help.
lincolnman
It just gets more amazing each day....
Trump signs an Executive Order on 12 Sep 18 sanctioning individual and states that interfere in our electoral process...
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-imposing-certain-sanctions-event-foreign-interference-united-states-election/
Then today, Trump states he would violate his own Executive Order...
The Great Orange Self-Admitted Criminal. Get Robert Mueller back on the job, time for another Special Counsel...
And no Trumper has yet to answer the question...
Do you think its OK for China to hack Trump's tax records and give them to Joe Biden? What about Iran giving Wikileaks all Don Jr, Eric's and Ivanka's e-mails..., you know, the ones Ivanaka kept on a private server?
https://splinternews.com/of-course-ivanka-trump-used-a-private-email-server-whil-1830553003
Blacklabel
I have answered your question multiple times. Yes it is ok. And yes the other thing is ok. And anything else you make up is ok too. Anything that is true should be publicly available. Why can you not accept this answer and claim no one is answering you.
yes yes yes and yes. Full disclosure of dirt.
lincolnman
And soon afterward, special diplomatic memos (on Trump stationary) went to Russia, North Korea, Iran, Cuba, and China saying; "Fellow dictators and tyrants, I'm open for business - send me all your made up dirt - I'll take all of it as I subvert the US Constitution and make the US more like your countries...."
Yours truly, Trump the Imperious..."
Blacklabel
Nope that didn’t happen. Not at all.
Toasted Heretic
Russia, if you're listening...
SuperLib
Best tag from Reddit: "Sure, I'd collude again"
LOL
stormcrow
"Just remember, what you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening." Donald Trump
WTF?!
Trump hasn't said this yet, but he will eventually when he figures out how stupid he sounds.
Toasted Heretic
PotUS has basically given permission to foreign agents to interfere in US elections.
But it's fine, just fine. Because he's your guy, right, Trump chums?