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© 2018 AFPTrump seethes against Russia probe 'disgrace'
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Chip Star
Trump's really crumbling under the pressure of Mueller getting closer and the Dems having taken the House.
Brilliant businesspeople do not crumble under pressure. Need I say more?
nostromo
If nothing happened why is Trump getting so worked up?
I would also suggest that the republican attempt to impeach Bill Clinton was also pretty historic (not that I was a fan of Clinton by any means)
TheRat
No, you areca disgrace, Trump. There, fixed that quote.
Strangerland
Trump is freaking out worries they have found collusion and has gone absolutely nuts. He is screaming and shouting at people, horribly threatening them to come up with the answers he wants
He is a disgrace to the nation and doesn't care how many lives ) he ruins. He is an angry man, and highly conflicted.
SuperLib
Um, OK, then shut it down.
Unless you are just making stuff like this up.
TheRat
bass4funk
He’s probably right, he just needs to weather this storm, deal with a bunch of stupid investigations, could be maybe indicted in Mueller’s report, go through the sniping and that’s it. The Senate is his rock and pillar, they’ll absorb the blows.
SuperLib
How could he let it continue? He just said that the investigators are threatening witnesses to try to make them say something untrue.
PTownsend
Trump's continuing the twisted message he and the First Lady have been spreading to their followers.
Both Trumps seem to follow this principle:
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Chip Star
Yes, never mind that the investigations may turn up legitimate reasons to boot Trump from office, the Republican controlled Senate will simply refuse to hold a trial or convict. Does anyone need any further evidence that this poster cares nothing for the rule of law or our country?
PTownsend
Trump once again demonizing and dehumanizing people who disagree with him, a tactic used by dictators throughout history to create an 'enemy' class, to rile up followers. Instead of reasoned arguments he resorts to incendiary sound bites, ones easy for his followers to understand and repeat..
Trump's lost touch with US democracy, at least what remains of it. As have any American he drags down with him.
Some of Trump's followers are buying T shirts saying 'I'd rather be Russian than a Democrat'. When these Americans seem to have closer ties with an ultrarightist, dictatorial state intent on harming the US than they do with over half their fellow Americans, Trump, Bannon etal are succeeding in their stated objectives to undermine American democracy.
Make Orwell fiction again: 8645
Ah_so
You would think that he would have heard of the Salem witch trials. That was quite a big witch hunt.
bass4funk
What a load of garbage. This whole thing has been a witch hunt from the beginning. 18 months and still nothing, they threw everything at this guy and still nothing, so now we are back at Russia once again, so let’s try an obstruction charge.
But the Democrats and the media are maintaining it? Wow!
Hmmmm.....lol
I noticed that you never spoke out on any of the other radical groups out there like Antifa or the new splint off group “smash Nazism” telling people to their homes smashing cars smashing public and private property is attacking people want to go to restaurants, trolling them on the internet, bullying then in schools. This is the real threat to American democracy, people that I was told the line for they could shut downs by any means necessary, you are not allowed to have freedom of speech if you don’t follow the liberal line and yet, liberals are totally silent on this.
lincolnman
Mr Walking Cheezit, after his insult and sulk tour of Europe, finds himself alone back in the White House tweeting and eating Big Macs at 3:00 AM. In his words; "What Loser..."
Gates is continuing to cooperate with Mueller, who has extended his sentencing, which means he's giving up big secrets - no wonder Donnie is in a tither. Roger Stone and his sleazy friends are soon to be indicted for their Russian contacts with WikiLeaks - after that comes Don Jr - in the words of one Trump supporter here; "Oh My"....
The scary thing is, what is Trump going to do to try to deflect all this bad news...he's obviously coming unglued...
And Mr Commander in Chief, when are you going to admit you sent our troops down to the border for absolutely nothing, and let them go home to spend Thanksgiving with their families? Another insult to our military...
Bintaro
The guy is in total panic. No innocent person would panic that much.
The next few weeks should be very interesting !
lincolnman
Right, nothing - Thirty-seven "witches" and that's just the tip of the iceberg...Trump knows he's in the crosshairs, and his head is exploding...
1) George Papadopoulos, former Trump campaign foreign policy adviser, was arrested in July 2017 and pleaded guilty last October to making false statements to the FBI. He got a 14-day sentence.
2) Paul Manafort, Trump’s former campaign chair, was indicted on a total of 25 different counts by Mueller’s team, related mainly to his past work for Ukrainian politicians and his finances. He had two trials scheduled, and the first ended in a conviction on eight counts of financial crimes. To avert the second trial, Manafort struck a plea deal with Mueller in September 2018.
3) Rick Gates, a former Trump campaign aide and Manafort’s longtime junior business partner, was indicted on similar charges to Manafort. But in February he agreed to a plea deal with Mueller’s team, pleading guilty to just one false statements charge and one conspiracy charge.
4) Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security adviser, pleaded guilty last December to making false statements to the FBI.
5-20) 13 Russian nationals and three Russian companies were indicted on conspiracy charges, with some also being accused of identity theft. The charges related to a Russian propaganda effort designed to interfere with the 2016 campaign. The companies involved are the Internet Research Agency, often described as a “Russian troll farm,” and two other companies that helped finance it. The Russian nationals indicted include 12 of the agency’s employees and its alleged financier, Yevgeny Prigozhin.
21) Richard Pinedo: This California man pleaded guilty to an identity theft charge in connection with the Russian indictments, and has agreed to cooperate with Mueller. He was sentenced to 6 months in prison and 6 months of home detention in October.
22) Alex van der Zwaan: This London lawyer pleaded guilty to making false statements to the FBI about his contacts with Rick Gates and another unnamed person based in Ukraine. He was sentenced to 30 days in jail and has completed his sentence.
23) Konstantin Kilimnik: This longtime business associate of Manafort and Gates, who’s currently based in Russia, was charged alongside Manafort with attempting to obstruct justice by tampering with witnesses in Manafort’s pending case this year.
24-35) 12 Russian GRU officers: These officers of Russia’s military intelligence service were charged with crimes related to the hacking and leaking of leading Democrats’ emails in 2016.
Finally, there are two other people Mueller initially investigated, but then handed over to others in the Justice Department to handle. Both eventually agreed to plea deals.
Michael Cohen: Trump’s former lawyer pleaded guilty to 8 counts — tax and bank charges, related to his finances and taxi business, and campaign finance violations, related to hush money payments to women who alleged affairs with Donald Trump.
Sam Patten: This Republican operative and lobbyist pleaded guilty to not registering as a foreign agent with his work for Ukrainian political bigwigs, and agreed to cooperate with the government.
serendipitous1
Trump is smart enough to know he's in deep doodoo and he would no doubt be hearing from various sources how close the investigation is to him and his family. This is the main reason for his desperate rants. He knows his time is almost up because so many people in his (former) circle are giving evidence against him to Mueller.
bass4funk
And?
Ok and then when Trump pardons them, then what?
Seems like the same contemplating brooding man he always seems to have been.
Thank God he sent to military down there, kudos to the president.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/migrants-from-caravan-begin-climbing-border-fence-in-tijuana
PTownsend
I agree with you; it should be back at even more closely investigating the Russia connections. Trump, his family members and his business associates alleged connections to Russia need to be thoroughly examined. Many Americans, especially those who value the few bits left of our democracy, probably believe it's improper for politicians to have under-the-table dealings with foreign governments and criminal organizations.
Nor did I speak of the many anti-Semitic, ultranationalist, white supremacist groups out there associate with US right wing-ism.
Sneezy
He can’t pardon everyone: if they’re charged with state crimes by, say, the State of New York, he has no pardoning power.
But to answer your question: he looks like more of a snivelling coward data’s criminal than he already does. Amazing that Republicans tolerate and even praise criminals when they’re old, rich, white, male, and fat.
bass4funk
And then what?
If you believe that, then you need to take a giant bulldozer and wrecking ball and completely overhaul and demolish Washington, entirely.
That is, if you really want to root out corruption.
Ok, so you don’t want to address the issues of masked Marxists attacking conservatives going to their homes, almost breaking down their doors, destroying private and public properties, hacking their computers, following them to restaurants, targeting their children, physically and verbally attacking people? You are ok with Marxist and socialist radicals doing this?
lincolnman
The standard Trumpster reply - when they have no other answer...
Standard Trumpster reply #2....
No, I think "unglued" is a better description...
As someone who wore the uniform for 28 years, and missed more than a few holidays with my family while deployed, your applauding the President for sending the troops on a worthless, political stunt really offends me - and anyone else in uniform or a vet...
SuperLib
I'm not worried about pardons. It will hurt the GOP's image long after Trump is gone.
TrevorPeace
He's been looking angrier and angrier, the past few days. I think he's about to blow his hoodie.
TrevorPeace
@bass4funk:
If you believe that, then you need to take a giant bulldozer and wrecking ball and completely overhaul and demolish Washington, entirely.
That's a damn good idea! And to think no one on this blog likes your thoughts! At last, a good one!
plasticmonkey
If Trump thinks this is a "witch hunt", he would have already been burned at the stake. Witch hunts do not produce "nothing", as Trump and his followers insist. It's a nonsensical analogy. If this is all amounting to "nothing", why fret so much about it? Is it just the "waste" of taxpayer money? Or the distraction? (Just remember who tweets and rants about this subject the most.)
This will show even more strongly that Trump is guilty of something. Despite his faux anger about "lives ruined", Trump couldn't give a rats about other people's wellbeing unless it is tied to his own. The man's entire life is testament to that.
lincolnman
Is it any wonder Trump shows such disdain for Robert Mueller?
Trump knows he's guilty and if you have done something wrong, the last guy you want to have investigating you is Robert Mueller - decorated Marine combat Vet, successful US Attorney and Prosecutor, head of the FBI that took down John Gotti - and lifetime Republican.
When Trump looks at Mueller, he sees not only a threat, but someone that is everything he isn't...someone who served his country with valor instead of hiding behind 5 deferments; someone who prosecuted criminals instead of a con-man who preyed on the innocent, someone with honor, integrity, and values - things Trump can't fathom and will never have...
bass4funk
Because it was the same old mantra that liberals can never justify.
Thank you for your service, but as for the border, I vehemently disagree with you.
Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I get it, but if he is found guilty of collusion, then what? The Senate won’t remove him, so what will the Dems do then? What can they chase once this is over, I truly worry about their well-being because once this is all over and put aside and Trump gets another 4 years what will the Democrats run after next? Is there anything left at all????
Laguna
I've read Trumps gained much weight and looks increasingly unhealthy. Guess he's not utilizing the White House basketball gym frequently. But a cornered animal is dangerous. Iran had better take care.
PTownsend
If he is found guilty, every American who values the bits left of their country's democratic systems will be further disgusted by the disgrace in the White House and all the sycophant Republicans who defended him. That would probably mean the GOP lose their hold in the Senate come next election. It would also probably mean Democrats control most states at all levels of governemnt.
No doubt some American GoTrumpers will remain loyal to their cult leader. The 'foreign' GoTrumpers won't care because they've served their purpose 'meddling' in elections and helping Trump get in office and stay longer than he should have.
bass4funk
I don’t believe that for a second. I will say this though, if the Democrats overreach begin that way they did back in 20018 2009 and focus solely on the president they will lose the house again just like they did in 2010. If they really want to make inroads, they will stop with these shenanigans and do what they are elected to do or what they said that they would do, if they think that they can do a better job than Republicans, then prove it instead of wanting to hold investigation after investigation they are doing exactly what the Republicans hope for. I personally want them to overreach and do whatever they can to miss this up, worry and put all your efforts into Trump because now when something doesn’t get done, who ones the House and the purse? The Democrats, be careful what you wish for. Neither side will get anything done if they don’t reach a little ground and jumping over the president is not going to help the Democrats position, it actually undercuts it.
I am not too worried, they probably will never happen, not on the level that the Democrats want, I don’t think the rest of the country want to look like Baltimore or Detroit, Chicago or St. Louis or San Francisco and Los Angeles.
Strangerland
You don't believe for a second that every American who values their democratic system wouldn't be disgusted by the president colluding with a foreign power to gain leadership of the nation? Well, you support Trump, so I suppose that believing in illogical hyper-partisanship is par for your course. But it's clearly not in line with how reality works.
ulysses
I have sympathy for Trump this time.
His wife publicly humiliated him, the Europe trip was a total disaster, the mid-terms were a good kick in the backside, even his mouthpiece Fox is supporting CNN... life must look pretty bleak in the Presidential bedroom.
TumbleDry
Salem trial was during the colonial Era.
Not technically the US yet.
If you look for a modern witch hunt, look at McCarthy’s hunt for communists.
Jimizo
Is there evidence of this? I know Trump supporters don’t care, but for those who value facts, this is an extremely serious accusation.
SuperLib
Don’t worry, Jimizo. Sure it happened, but no need to stop it. Best to let this play out and pin your hopes on Congress stopping it after the fact when it’s out of Trump’s hands.
Because it makes sense.
Peter14
I have heard no evidence of any Witches being in any way involved in the Russia investigation. Hunting of Witches is now no longer carried out and the last Witch trial was hundreds of years ago in America.
Once again Trump lies, unless he considers himself a practicing Witch and believes he will be executed for witchcraft. The Salem Witch hunt and trials were the biggest in US history.
Just how he managed to convince Russia to back him and to get enough domestic votes without getting a majority vote, and still get elected President may well be witchcraft...
HonestDictator
There are more than just the democrats that want him out. If the GOP senate majority thinks this is just about partisanship power, they're going to feel the fury of the people. Remember the "swing" voters Bass? Those of us that don't support either party? The GOP is so corrupt they're more than willing to destroy any shred of democracy this country has. It's going to get vicious when the GOP is so blatant against doing their job for the good of the country instead of trying to force control over the people of the US to support an authoritarian dictatorship of their own making. I will help make sure the senators who are attempting to do this will face impeachment for not upholding their responsibilities to the well being of the average US citizen.
Serrano
"When Trump looks at Mueller, he sees not only a threat, but someone that is everything he isn't...someone who served his country with valor instead of hiding behind 5 deferments; someone who prosecuted criminals instead of a con-man who preyed on the innocent, someone with honor, integrity, and values - things Trump can't fathom and will never have"
Fathom this, lincoln - the whole Mueller investigation is based on a fake dossier paid for by Hillary/DNC.
lincolnman
If you sit back and think a little bit, on all Mueller has uncovered so far, it's really quite astounding;
This President's Campaign Chairman, the Chairman's Deputy, a campaign foreign policy Advisor, and the National Security Advisor were all meeting with Russians during the period of the campaign.
Then when they were hauled before the FBI, they all lied about it.
And that doesn't include Don Jr who was in the Trump Tower meeting with the Russian Intel Agent, and Roger Stone and his cronies who were bartering with Russians and Wikileaks on stolen e-mails.
And how many more has Mueller identified that he hasn't let out of the bag yet?
It's amazing - this President and his campaign were riddled with Russian contacts - you know, Russia, our enemy who wants to defeat our country and lay claim to the most powerful nation on earth.
For those that love America and want to see it continue to flourish without blatant interference and collusion, Robert Mueller must finish his investigation unimpeded.
Then the question will be for the Republicans in the House and Senate, who's side are you on - America's or Russia's?
bass4funk
ok, so half of the country wants him gone and the other half doesn’t and the Senate won’t remove him, but the GOP with their increased margins have to worry? Interesting....
But didn’t like how Kavanaugh was treated and at the last minute wanted to voice their strong oppositions to his treatment? Not only do I remember, but that is what rallied the GOP together with their help.
Sorry, both parties are corrupt, I will agree on that.
And more so for the Democrats, they keep losing, in 2010, 2014, 2016, couldn’t get the Senate and if they just continue to focus only on Trump in two years, they will lose the House again, it’s not impossible, so Democrats shouldn’t think they are safe, now they got the power and the spotlight is on them, so let’s see what they got.
I will do the same as regards to the House Democrats.
lincolnman
Fathom this Serrano (though I know you won't...)
2015:
Autumn. The conservative website the Washington Free Beacon hires a firm called Fusion GPS to conduct research on several Republican presidential candidates, including Trump.
Dec. 10. Gen. Michael Flynn, a former senior official in military intelligence, is part of a panel discussion in Moscow for the 10th anniversary of the government-backed media outlet Russia Today, for which he is paid. At a dinner, he sits at a table with Putin. Officials notice an increase in communication between Flynn and the Russian ambassador to the United States, Sergey Kislyak, following the Russia Today event. Flynn will soon become an adviser to the Trump campaign.
2016:
Mr. Papadopoulos discussed the Russian information during a meeting in a London bar in May 2016 with Alexander Downer, the top Australian diplomat in London. The Australian government passed the information to the F.B.I., which used it as a basis to open an investigation into possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.
There's your genesis for Mueller's investigation....
Strangerland
No it's not. You either read lies, or completely misunderstood what you read.
Ah_so
For an investigation supposedly based on a fake dossier, it has been very effective at uncovering foreign attempts to sway the election along with other crimes.
Regardless if what you believe (falsely) to be the origins, better to let it continue to get to the truth.
After all, if there has been illegal collusion, you do want it uncovered, don't you?
Don't you?
Ah_so
I certainly doubt Trump went through this thought process.
lincolnman
Correction...the question was what started the Mueller investigation, and the CORRECT answer is:
Mr. Papadopoulos discussed the Russian information during a meeting in a London bar in May 2016 with Alexander Downer, the top Australian diplomat in London. The Australian government passed the information to the F.B.I., which used it as a basis to open an investigation into possible ties between the Trump campaign and Russia.
Strangerland
And let’s remeber just who appointed Mueller to this investigation. Who was that? Bueller? Bueller? Trump.
Blacklabel
Um actually Rosenstein. You would never allow Trump to personally appoint the person to investigate him.
Madverts
The Orange Moron will have something else to seethe about now....
Judge orders White House to return Jim Acosta's press pass
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/11/16/media/cnn-trump-lawsuit-hearing/index.html
So much winning!!
ReturningGrace
After a while Trump realized it was never about Russian collusion. So he has all the reasons to worry because they will find something and cook it up real good. But from the pace Mueller is crawling, Trump should last his term which is all he really needs.
Wolfpack
Obama failed to stop the real Russian interference in the 2016 election - the disinformation campaign that took place during his administration. He also allowed Hillary to hire a former foreign spy to funnel money to the Russians for a discredited dossier on her political opponent. What is infuriating is that Mueller ignores all that so he can try to gig Trump on a perjury trap. It would be funny if it wasn't such a huge farce. Well if Trump can get one more Supreme Court justice the farce won't matter anyway.
I love it. Can't wait for the first time a Democrat President get's harassed by a partisan "journalist" from the other side of the aisle.
Wolfpack
Funny since the guy Papadopoulos spoke with, Joseph Mifsud, had a working relationship with the US State Dept. You know, the place that Hillary used to be in charge of and who to this day still have many working within who are members of the #resistance.
Sounds to me that the FBI should have opened an investigation into possible ties between the Clinton Campaign and Russia. The Russians are the folks Hillary paid with money laundered through a law firm, Fusion GPS, and a foreign spy named Steele. But let's ignore that and go after Papadopoulos - a guy who supposedly got dirt on Hillary months before he was even working on the Trump campaign.
The sooner the new AG appoints a second Special Prosecutor to go after the rest of the Russian election meddling affair the better.
lincolnman
More weak attempts to obfuscate - Trumpsters know the noose is tightening and they are getting desperate. Papadapolous talks to Russians, word gets back to the US Govt, he's called in to the FBI, and he lies about it. And its all Hillary's fault. Yea, right...
Trumpsters can't wrap their head around the fact that a conservative media group funded by the Republican party first contacted Fusion GPS, trying to get dirt on Trump because they wanted Jeb Bush as the nominee.
Keep repeating the Russian talking points guys - we know it helps you sleep better at night...
HonestDictator
If they were being ultimately corrupt, I'd uphold the same for them too. The problem is, you've been showing you're completely unable to acknowledge the current and absolutely obvious corrupt acts that the GOP and Trump are blatantly flouting around, and it can cost this country DEARLY as long as you keep your fanatical partisan view.
Right now the Democrats, a few truly responsible Republicans, and other minority "parties" are maintaining rule of law and equal justice for ALL. You don't seem to be able to support that.
Strangerland
Heh, you people and your Hillary stalking. Fifty-six investigations by your own team find her innocent, and you people are still trying to continue the delusion that she did something wrong.
You can keep saying it, but the fact that you would be stupid enough to believe this, much less say it out loud, doesn't speak much to your credibility.
Strangerland
And don't need to wait! There are eight years of Fox "News" "Jouranalists" doing it. You can troll through archives and find it all you want. Get your glee while you can!
And maybe get some perspective and drop the prosecution complex, since you guys were the ones who started it all, and are now just whining that it's happening back to you, while trying to pretend that you weren't the ones who brought it all upon yourselves in the first place.
Welcome to reality, where you pay for your actions even when you try to pretend you aren't.
beentofivecontinents
It's interesting that some here who didn't like Trump that much in the Republican primaries are now defending at least 98% of what Trump does.
Serrano
@fivecontinents That's because they like results.