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Trump sends mixed messages to China on trade war

It's called carrot and stick. Before all we had was carrot.

Obama said the manufacturing jobs were not coming back.

Um, yes they are, now that he's out of office.

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There are so many well adjusted "silver spoons" in this world...What happened to lil donny along the way? He just doesn't play well with others.

thoughts can always be interpreted in various ways depending on what the person saying them was trying to convey.

And I was hanging on every one of your words until this:

 elevate their a lot of European leaders and forces within the United States on the liberal socialist side

What was trying to be conveyed and how can I possibly interpret this? I await a run on sentence as explanation.

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Its coming in 2020 if not sooner - The Trump Slump....

Dream on. Even if there is a slow-down in 2020, the majority of voters are not gonna want to go back to what we had from 2008 to 2016.

Even if? Even the Trumpers know its coming - the Trump Slump - may be worse than Bush's Blowout....

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Its coming in 2020 if not sooner - The Trump Slump....

Dream on. Even if there is a slow-down in 2020, the majority of voters are not gonna want to go back to what we had from 2008 to 2016.

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Reagan had Alzheimers too -

But was a great President, so I’m not worried.

Somebody just got caught in a corner...

No, because we both heard from different sources.

Well, he didn't know he'd be followed in office by a moron...

Obama’s double?

But What About - thanks for agreeing with me...and for raising the white flag....

I didn’t, never happened, no reason for it.

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Four times just this week alone...then we have the infatroopen and lawmurkers episode, the "airfields in 1776"...and who can forget "The Chosen One"....time for the "home"....

Presidents have a lot on their plate, Reagan, Truman, Bush, Obama....

Reagan had Alzheimers too - Donnie and the Trumpers shouldn't be afraid of admitting it - drop a nuke on a hurricane - get him away from the nuclear codes...

So say you - prove it...

I can’t and neither can you.

Somebody just got caught in a corner...

Thanks for agreeing with me...

on Obama’s end, what did he know and when did he know it? 2014 to be exact.

Well, he didn't know he'd be followed in office by a moron...

why was trump's caddy and maid an illegal? We need to get to the bottom of that...

As well as Feinstein’s driver....he still around?

But What About - thanks for agreeing with me...and for raising the white flag....

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Four times just this week alone...then we have the infatroopen and lawmurkers episode, the "airfields in 1776"...and who can forget "The Chosen One"....time for the "home"....

Presidents have a lot on their plate, Reagan, Truman, Bush, Obama....

Obviously Trumpers can't....

The liberal media sure never will.

So say you - prove it...

I can’t and neither can you.

Thanks for agreeing with me...

on Obama’s end, what did he know and when did he know it? 2014 to be exact.

why was trump's caddy and maid an illegal? We need to get to the bottom of that...

As well as Feinstein’s driver....he still around?

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"Meant to say" - as in the demented old fool didn't know what he was talking about...

Or misspoke, happens with age.

Four times just this week alone...then we have the infatroopen and lawmurkers episode, the "airfields in 1776"...and who can forget "The Chosen One"....time for the "home"....

A fact in black and white...

I hope the media can learn.

Obviously Trumpers can't....

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-undocumented-immigrants-trump-20190208-story.html

Yes and that’s been resolved.

So say you - prove it...

Which means they haven't

That’s what the liberal media says, I heard it’s resolved.

See above...

Hasn't been solved - needs both an ICE and Congressional investigation...what did the President know and when did he know it?

Well, that won’t happen, now on Obama’s end, what did he know and when did he know it? 2014 to be exact.

Thanks for agreeing with me...why was trump's caddy and maid an illegal? We need to get to the bottom of that...

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"Meant to say" - as in the demented old fool didn't know what he was talking about...

Or misspoke, happens with age.

A fact in black and white...

I hope the media can learn.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-undocumented-immigrants-trump-20190208-story.html

Yes and that’s been resolved.

Which means they haven't

That’s what the liberal media says, I heard it’s resolved.

Hasn't been solved - needs both an ICE and Congressional investigation...what did the President know and when did he know it?

Well, that won’t happen, now on Obama’s end, what did he know and when did he know it? 2014 to be exact.

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Everyone get ready for the next recession - it happens every time we have a Repub in the White House; Bush 1, Bush 2, The Dimwit....

Its coming in 2020 if not sooner - The Trump Slump....

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Asked during a meeting with British Prime Minister Boris Johnson if he had any second thoughts about escalating the trade conflict, Trump told reporters, "Yeah. For sure."

Build the Wall! Well, I'm having second thoughts on that...

I'll never support an assault weapons ban! Well, I'm having second thoughts on that...

Obamacare is a fiasco! Well, I'm having second thoughts on that...

I'm pulling out of the Kyoto Treaty! Well, I'm having second thoughts on that...

The Mueller report is a witch hunt! Well, I'm having second thoughts on that...

And the Trumpers here may say this is exaggerated - I'd just say read below....

He added, "I have second thoughts about everything."

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Not necessarily.

This is comedic platinum. Denying that second thoughts come after an initial thought! This needs no further comment.

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That the carnivorous socialism media reported it as fact and didn’t know verification whatsoever as the White House pushed back and discounted it. The media could’ve said allegedly what they heard, but that’s just not how they do business these days.

This is a lot of words to say that there is nothing dishonest about reporting Donny's words.

And the same goes for the media when he points it out and most of the conservative media across the country report it, so I guess it’s fair game

The media is a he and conservative media join him to point out Donny is a serial liar? Or, am I just reading this gem incorrectly?

I think one must question the integrity and honesty of certain people behind the questioning, that’s a real conundrum.

The good old conservative defense of "who fact-checks the fact checkers?" Hilarious.

I would beg to differ, elevate their a lot of European leaders and forces within the United States on the liberal socialist side they’re doing whatever they can to undermine the democracy, the Constitution and the stability of the United States.

And the obligatory dive into a conspiracy theory. Trumpophiles never fail to trot out conspiracy theories when they have zero substance.

Will be fine, this old planet has survived a lot over billions of years.

Someone doesn't realize that the planet has not always been hospitable to humans throughout its existence.

Now, I do agree Trump is not an orator like Obama was, granted,

Donny isn't even an orator like most three-year-olds.

but it wouldn’t be the first time that the media has misinterpreted what he was saying.

Damn the media for misinterpreting Donny by quoting him!

They have been so many retractions, misquotes,

Sure. You just can't post any examples at the moment, correct?

The problem is the media interprets this is how he thinks this is what he said in judging how he has been pushing forward this, I would tend to think very much otherwise, but I would never expect the liberal media to be fair. Lol

Yeah! It's so unfair t directly quote Donny and expect that that is what he meant. The damn lib media should be seeking interpretation of Donny's words from a Trumpophile before going t print!

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*When asked about the mixed messages**, Mnuchin clarified by saying Trump “meant to say that he’s determined as ever on this issue,” remains committed to achieving a fair trade deal with China."*

Well, there you go, it happens.

"Meant to say" - as in the demented old fool didn't know what he was talking about...

And this poster said Trump was "unrelenting on China" just yesterday.....yea, unrelenting hypocrisy....

That would be the contrived liberal interpretation of it.

A fact in black and white...

How do you know its solved?

How do you know it’s not solved? None of us know, so you give your version of what happened as I did mine.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/ct-undocumented-immigrants-trump-20190208-story.html

Has ICE launched an investigation? Has every Trump property been reviewed?

We don’t know.

Which means they haven't....favoritism - this needs investigated....

*And you ignore the fact that he was hiring illegals AT THE SAME TIME he was railing against them...*

No, I’m not ignoring it. I’m just saying, the problem so far was pointed out, management took care of it, all solved.

Hasn't been solved - needs both an ICE and Congressional investigation...what did the President know and when did he know it?

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When asked about the mixed messages, Mnuchin clarified by saying Trump “meant to say that he’s determined as ever on this issue,” remains committed to achieving a fair trade deal with China."

Well, there you go, it happens.

And this poster said Trump was "unrelenting on China" just yesterday.....yea, unrelenting hypocrisy....

That would be the contrived liberal interpretation of it.

How do you know its solved?

How do you know it’s not solved? None of us know, so you give your version of what happened as I did mine.

Has ICE launched an investigation? Has every Trump property been reviewed?

We don’t know.

And you ignore the fact that he was hiring illegals AT THE SAME TIME he was railing against them...

No, I’m not ignoring it. I’m just saying, the problem so far was pointed out, management took care of it, all solved.

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Serrano: Too bad Obama

Serrano jumps into the discussion by waving the white surrender flag.

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bass: That the carnivorous socialism media reported it as fact and didn’t know verification whatsoever as the White House pushed back and discounted it. The media could’ve said allegedly what they heard, but that’s just not how they do business these days.

From Fox News, part of the carnivorous socialism meda:

"The White House then issued a statement indicating that this does not mean that the president regrets imposing new tariffs, rather that Trump’s only regret is “not raising the tariffs higher.” When asked about the mixed messages, Mnuchin clarified by saying Trump “meant to say that he’s determined as ever on this issue,” remains committed to achieving a fair trade deal with China."

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Too bad Obama didn't do anything about the problem of China ripping us off. It's being dealt with now.

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The daily drumbeat of anti Trump propaganda in the fake corporate media. By this time, it has become simply comical.

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This is my favorite part.

Kudlow claimed Trump "didn't quite hear the question" although reporters asked the president three times whether he had any second thoughts about ramping up the trade war and he responded three times.

A Trump loyalist smearing his family name by going out into the world and giving nonsense answers for King Trump.

Embrace it. Embrace the humiliation. It's my favorite thing to watch.

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Second thoughts means second thoughts. No interpretation going on.

That’s not true, thoughts can always be interpreted in various ways depending on what the person saying them was trying to convey.

And no falsehoods or dishonesty.

So it seems the liberal media wants to portray.

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Stop criticizing Trump for what he actually said.

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The difference between the politician in a businessman is, usually businessmen and get things done, politicians just like to talk about things that they would like to do.

Dang straight - businessmen gets things done - just look at this list of successful businesses....

Trump Atlantic City Taj Mahal and Casino...

Trump Airlines...

Trump University...

Trump Steaks and Vodka....

Trump Mortgage.....

Trump Magazine....

Many more.....

https://gawker.com/a-complete-list-of-donald-trump-s-business-disasters-1764151188

This businessman gets things done - he bankrupts them....

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This is Trump the corrupt politician using tactics he learned as a corrupt businessman. 

The difference between the politician in a businessman is, usually businessmen and get things done, politicians just like to talk about things that they would like to do.

Well stated...

President Trump: China is an unfair trader stealing American jobs - all US companies should leave China and not do any business with them...

Businessman Trump: Ivanka and I get great deals getting our clothing and show lines made in Chinese sweatshop factories....and what a deal I got on those "Trump 2020" banners made in China...

President Trump: They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists... We have an invasion on our southern border...

Businessman Trump: You should see the increase in my bottom-line by hiring illegal immigrants at my properties instead of US workers - those illegals work dirt cheap....

President Trump: I have no business with Russia...

Businessman Trump: As my sons have said, we get all the money we need from Russia....and Vlad and I have discussed a penthouse for him at Trump Tower Moscow....

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the carnivorous socialism media reported it as fact and didn’t know verification

So he didn't say what he said?

the media has misinterpreted what he was saying. 

Or he did say it?

Second thoughts means second thoughts. No interpretation going on. And no falsehoods or dishonesty.

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This is Trump the corrupt politician using tactics he learned as a corrupt businessman. 

The difference between the politician in a businessman is, usually businessmen and get things done, politicians just like to talk about things that they would like to do.

He tweets a message on some issue, then waits to see who responds, how they respond, and how much is offered him or his family. If he’s not satisfied with the offer, he sends a contradictory message seeing if he can get more. He’ll flip-flop until he gets the highest bid, then after he thinks he has it, cave on the issue. 

No one said learning to be a politician is an easy route, he’s trying to fit in with the rest of the crowd. Lol

Consider his support (albeit short-lived) for background checks before purchasing a weapon. The NRA quickly moved in, offering him the most. 

The way liberals are trying to go after conservatives, at this point that might be a smart idea to back off

Corrupt businessman, corrupt politician. Leopards and spots. 

Welcome to the world of Washington.

Flip-flop then cave. Some of his supporters call that 4D chess. har har

I would call flexibility at least that’s what liberals called it when their leader flip flopped on issues.

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Trump's head-snapping comments at the Group of Seven summit about his escalating trade fight with China 

Trump/Ivanka Inc. had successfully negotiated trademark deals with oligarchs in the Chinese Communist Party (CCP, some say Chi-comms). Does anyone know if these deals are at risk given Trump’s ‘escalating trade fight with China’. After all, it’s the oligarchs in the CCP who make decisions.

Also, Trump Inc. have had products made in China, once again with the permission of CCP oligarchs. Are these products still being manufactured there, providing jobs for Chinese workers, and profits for CCP oligarchs - and Trump, Inc.

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Donald Trump and Boris Johnson....

New leads for "Dumb and Dumber IV".....

Hey, they won't need any make-up.....

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Trump evidently likes and supports the US Women's Gymnastics Team - he's all for "flips"....

I'm for a payroll tax......I'm against a payroll tax.....

I'm for expanded background checks.....I'm against background checks....

I'm unrelenting on China.....I'll give China more flexibility....

Back flip, front flip, another back flip.....

And he still thinks he's a stable genius....

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Trump brain is a mess.

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Trump sends mixed messages to China on trade war

This is Trump the corrupt politician using tactics he learned as a corrupt businessman.

He tweets a message on some issue, then waits to see who responds, how they respond, and how much is offered him or his family. If he’s not satisfied with the offer, he sends a contradictory message seeing if he can get more. He’ll flip-flop until he gets the highest bid, then after he thinks he has it, cave on the issue.

Consider his support (albeit short-lived) for background checks before purchasing a weapon. The NRA quickly moved in, offering him the most.

Corrupt businessman, corrupt politician. Leopards and spots.

Flip-flop then cave. Some of his supporters call that 4D chess. har har

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"I have second thoughts about everything."

He actually has third, fourth, and fifth thoughts about everything - that's what happens when you have various "voices telling you to do things" in your head....

Of course Putin's voice takes precedence over all the others...

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Don't "second thoughts" predicate an initial thought?

Not necessarily.

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Hours later, the White House backpedaled. Press secretary Stephanie Grisham issued a statement saying the press had "greatly misinterpreted" Trump's comments. She said the president only responded "in the affirmative - because he regrets not raising the tariffs higher."

Now, I do agree Trump is not an orator like Obama was, granted, but it wouldn’t be the first time that the media has misinterpreted what he was saying. They have been so many retractions, misquotes, The problem is the media interprets this is how he thinks this is what he said in judging how he has been pushing forward this, I would tend to think very much otherwise, but I would never expect the liberal media to be fair. Lol

Interesting story, but what does this have to do with Trump threatening the global economy?

He’s not.

Yes, but mankind hasn't been around for billions of years. Greed and exploitation are jeopardizing the future.

What does that have to do with people surviving this small setback?

Do you think the planet can survive with part of its lungs burnt out?

Why is it liberals get into such a panic about these things?

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Don't "second thoughts" predicate an initial thought?

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Interesting story, but what was false or dishonest in the reporting of Trump's statements?

The right's definition of "fake news" is news that they don't like.

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That the carnivorous socialism media reported it as fact and didn’t know verification whatsoever as the White House pushed back and discounted it. The media could’ve said allegedly what they heard, but that’s just not how they do business these days.

Interesting story, but what was false or dishonest in the reporting of Trump's statements?

I would beg to differ, elevate their a lot of European leaders and forces within the United States on the liberal socialist side they’re doing whatever they can to undermine the democracy, the Constitution and the stability of the United States.

Interesting story, but what does this have to do with Trump threatening the global economy?

Will be fine, this old planet has survived a lot over billions of years.

Yes, but mankind hasn't been around for billions of years. Greed and exploitation are jeopardizing the future. Do you think the planet can survive with part of its lungs burnt out?

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Tell us what was false or dishonest in the reporting of Trump’s statements.

That the carnivorous socialism media reported it as fact and didn’t know verification whatsoever as the White House pushed back and discounted it. The media could’ve said allegedly what they heard, but that’s just not how they do business these days.

Pointing out that the PotUS is a serial liar is newsworthy.

And the same goes for the media when he points it out and most of the conservative media across the country report it, so I guess it’s fair game

One must question the integrity and honesty of those who pretend he isn't.

I think one must question the integrity and honesty of certain people behind the questioning, that’s a real conundrum.

This is a man who's poor grasp of diplomacy, international politics and the truth is threatening the global economy.

I would beg to differ, elevate their a lot of European leaders and forces within the United States on the liberal socialist side they’re doing whatever they can to undermine the democracy, the Constitution and the stability of the United States.

Personally, I'm more worried about the health of the planet. After all, precious capitalism won't be much use to anyone if we're all gasping for clean air.

Will be fine, this old planet has survived a lot over billions of years.

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[Donny] added, "I have second thoughts about everything."

As any rational adult does; it's called self-reflection and aides in our growth.

And, just when you think Donny's joined the adult world, he goes and proves you incorrect:

[Grisham] said the president only responded "in the affirmative - because he regrets not raising the tariffs higher."

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I would start to question more the integrity and honesty of the liberal news media that are trying to take this president down, that’s your biggest source right there.

Pointing out that the PotUS is a serial liar is newsworthy. One must question the integrity and honesty of those who pretend he isn't.

This is a man who's poor grasp of diplomacy, international politics and the truth is threatening the global economy.

Personally, I'm more worried about the health of the planet. After all, precious capitalism won't be much use to anyone if we're all gasping for clean air.

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question more the integrity and honesty of the liberal news media that are trying to take this president down

Tell us what was false or dishonest in the reporting of Trump’s statements.

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I'm starting to think that lying is a prerequisite to work in this administration. 

I would start to question more the integrity and honesty of the liberal news media that are trying to take this president down, that’s your biggest source right there.

I would add that, however, that Mr. Trump never has had first thoughts...making the possibility of second thoughts moot anyhow.

That is just totally absurd, a bit funny, but still absurd.

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That damn smile.

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Kudlow claimed Trump "didn't quite hear the question" although reporters asked the president three times whether he had any second thoughts about ramping up the trade war and he responded three times.

I'm starting to think that lying is a prerequisite to work in this administration.

I would add that, however, that Mr. Trump never has had first thoughts...making the possibility of second thoughts moot anyhow.

Just saying...

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"I have second thoughts about everything." . . . Donald Trump

Yeah, especially when Trump changes his mind about something he's said he was going to do which makes sense and then suddenly flip-flopping and doing something that doesn't make any sense at all.

Not very constructive second thoughts.

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The word on the street is that trade wars are easy to win.

I wonder if that comment was in reference to Chin. It can’t have been in reference to America or the war would already be won wouldn’t it?

Anyone?

Meuller? Mueller?

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He added, "I have second thoughts about everything."

Which is the problem with Trump! He shoots off his mouth before thinking, or checking out whether what he is talking about is even feasible, then blames someone else when he is constantly being forced to "explain" what he meant in the first place.

Mixed messages from Trump is the norm, and the sooner the US votes him out of office, the better!

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