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Trump slams recount push as a scam; says election is over

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The Clinton campaign should be participating. Any Trumpsters who say she shouldn't are the worst of hypocrites since they made the potential of a rigged election a centerpiece of the campaign. We deserve to know if Russia hacked this election as they hacked all thru the campaign.

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let Donald have his fun before his impeachment....

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“The people have spoken and the election is over,”

And more than 2,000,000 PEOPLE voted for Clinton.

Oh. My. This is interesting. Even FOX 'news' is talking about Trump and the Constitution's emolument clause. http://nation.foxnews.com/2016/11/23/turning-trump-new-hillary-clinton-allegations-have-already-started

No doubt all who recognize the US Constitution contains more than just the 2nd Amendment will be concerned. Or do the Don-istas want Trump to appoint to the Supreme Court someone from his own legal staff who'll look after the Don's investments and vote to allow him continue to profit from his throne in the White House?

With a Republican Congress and Trump as president it looks like the ruling class, global elitists are going to have complete control over the US.

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Not up to you Trump. As an American citizen I'd like to have 100% without a shadow of a doubt the outcome wasn't mishandled. And his previous comments while "campaigning" only makes my concerns even more valid.

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Probably one of the biggest 180s in US history?

60+ percent of Trump supporters think the election is rigged due to misinformation from Trump and GOP leaders. Now Stein exercises her right to a recount, and they are telling her to shut up and not confirm the results?

I have no idea why the GOP and Trump don't jump on the bandwagon. Go ahead and count again. We want to make sure. Nothing will change so he has nothing to lose. Why expose yourself as a bullshitter by trying to deny confirmation?

Now Trump supporters have to make a choice: Do you sell your integrity for the good of the party and try to stop the recount after you've put so much time into spreading misinformation about rigging?

Do you say that enough is enough and decide to give your own opinion instead of Trump's?

It's time to separate the men from the boys.

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"I will accept the outcome of the election... ONLY if I win."

Donald Trump

What a joke our political system has become.

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Once a candidate concedes = it is over. Trump is very correct on that point.

If you take out all the illegals and dead people that voted -Trump would have won the popular vote also. It seems that the Green Party is only targeting states that Trump won with these recounts.

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...his Cuba policy, which was inconsistent during the campaign.

Ha ha! The qualifier was unnecessary - it applies to everything Trump.

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badsey: fIf you take out all the illegals and dead people that voted -Trump would have won the popular vote also.

Here it is again. This is what...the fourth person today to spread the myth of voter fraud? It's just fascinating from a psychological standpoint.

Anyone watching Westworld? It's an HBO show about a futuristic theme park where androids are used to create an 1800s wild West fantasy vacation for guests. The androids have extreme capabilities so the engineers must program them to ignore things that make them doubt their reality so they always think they are human.

In one scene, a host (android) finds a discarded picture of modern day life. He is confused at what he is looking at since it seems to be from the future. His programming is failing when he begins to question his reality. He shows the picture to his daughter and she smiles and says, "It doesn't look like much of anything to me."

Her programming is functioning. Something challenges what she knows about reality, so she's programmed to ignore it. She doesn't see anything in the picture at all.

Now take all of the voter fraud studies, even the ones done by Republicans, all of the court cases where judges looked at GOP evidence and threw the laws out and said they flirted with racism, and put it in front of a right winger. Their response would be identical to the host: It doesn't look like anything to me.

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let Donald have his fun before his impeachment....

Oh, I so pray for this. We went through a blistering 21 month tiring election and the Dems are uttering the "I" word? Bring it on, even the GOP learned a valuable lesson and how the outcome of that can be the death of a party. I say, bring it on!

With a Republican Congress and Trump as president it looks like the ruling class, global elitists are going to have complete control over the US.

if that is what it takes to get the country roaring again, so be it. We tried the entitlement giant government apparatus of stagnation and starvation for 8 years and the people threw up the middle finger to Obama and to Hillary that was going to go on with the same policies. By the way, did you see the dow today? Wow! Seem like Good times are a slowly coming our way.

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Trump slams recount push as a scam;

It's not a scam, Donald. It's her legal right.

Got something to hide?

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Heh, the guy who went on about the election being rigged is now whining because people are questioning whether the election may have been rigged. The guy who said he would only accept the election results if he won is complaining because the other side isn't accepting the election results when they didn't win.

You lie in the bed you make Don the Con. How does that bed feel?

If you take out all the illegals and dead people that voted -Trump would have won the popular vote also. It seems that the Green Party is only targeting states that Trump won with these recounts.

But if you remove the 16 million people that double voted for Trump, Hillary won the electoral college AND the popular vote. That's YUUUUUUGE!

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Recounts are a part of the election process in a democratic country. One can only hope against hope that the recount will be in Clinton's favor and Trump and his racist gang will not take power.

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Well it was being rigged by the MSM. Obvious to anyone who's not insane in the membrane.

Anyone watching Westworld?

LOL. I'll never understand how people can sit through these modern soap opera TV shows. Must be at least 50% useless dialog not connected to the plot. Watched the first MARS show on the History channel. Same thing, won't watch anymore. If these shows are that popular, it's not surprising how the MSM can enslave half the masses as well.

I'm all for Stein doing this. She's just suckering the brainwashed for money(can't wait to see that donation list) and pissing off the true progressives by standing BEHIND Hillary. It's just too illogical for Stein to be doing this for herself. Why waste the money? Why not build a better support base? Why not spend the money on a campaign showing all the Snowflakes how they were lied to and tricked by the Dem machine? I'd really like to know how many true progressives there are on JT? It seems not many. My feeling tells me that this is being done to keep the snowflake angst going so they don't START questioning the Dem machine, and Stein will be quietly absorbed into the Dem machine later.

If Hillary wanted to win, she should have campaigned for the Electoral college votes in MI, WI and OH where she spent very little time instead of pandering to the Coasters. LOL Somebody call me a WAAAAAmbulance.

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Donald will be impeached for not understanding that you cannot run the country as your own personal fiefdom and that you are actually accountable for your actions as president - unlike his own companies. It is only a matter of time before Trump Enterprise interests take preference over national interests in his dealings with other countries... even the odious Dick Cheney understood this and "resigned" as the head of Halliburton before working in the George W cabinet (which didn't stop Halliburton being at the head of the queue for Iraq's supposed spoils)... I suspect there will be a quite a queue of republicans looking forward to his downfall and replacing him with a "party man"...

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"We tried the entitlement giant government apparatus of stagnation and starvation for 8 years and the people threw up the middle finger to Obama and to Hillary that was going to go on with the same policies"

By "the people", do you mean the people who voted for Donald Trump who were fewer than the people who voted for Hillary Clinton?

It's just a very strange use of "the people".

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I noticed this:

bass: the people threw up the middle finger to Obama

Obama's approval ratings are at 57% after another jump up. But that doesn't register with this person.

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It's just too illogical for Stein to be doing this for herself.

As if we didn't know, there is a small print disclaimer on her site that the money is not guaranteed to be used for recounts.

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Donald will be impeached for not understanding that you cannot run the country as your own personal fiefdom and that you are actually accountable for your actions as president

Huh? No one seems to have told Obama or Hillary that! Spread the word!

unlike his own companies. It is only a matter of time before Trump Enterprise interests take preference over national interests in his dealings with other countries... even the odious Dick Cheney understood this and "resigned" as the head of Halliburton before working in the George W cabinet (which didn't stop Halliburton being at the head of the queue for Iraq's supposed spoils)... I suspect there will be a quite a queue of republicans looking forward to his downfall and replacing him with a "party man"...

Maybe Trump might do the same, it's only been 3 weeks, in the meantime, relax, calm down, get a beer, as Biden said, we will be ok, nothing to worry about. The people wanted change and it will take place, maybe not the way the Democrats wanted (thank God) but it's coming. All is good.

By "the people", do you mean the people who voted for Donald Trump who were fewer than the people who voted for Hillary Clinton?

It's just a very strange use of "the people".

I'm sorry, the majority of the people. I wasn't talking about the coastal far left progressives, I was referring to the other majority of deep red that you see on the map. My bad, but thanks for the clarification as always.

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the people threw up the middle finger to Obama and to Hillary

By "the people", do you mean the people who voted for Donald Trump who were fewer than the people who voted for Hillary Clinton?

I'm sorry, the majority of the people.

You mean the majority of the people who voted for Hillary? How exactly did voting for Hillary equate to giving her and Obama the middle finger?

Strange use of "the people".

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That should have read "You mean that majority of the people that voted for Hillary? "

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You mean the majority of the people who voted for Hillary?

But we don't go by the popular vote, so what's your point, the election is over.

How exactly did voting for Hillary equate to giving her and Obama the middle finger?

Trump is the president elect, that's a big middle finger. LOL

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I think he's trying to change the meaning of words...?

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But we don't go by the popular vote

But you specifically said "the majority of the people", that's directly referring to the popular vote not the electoral college. And your original claim was that the people gave Hillary and Obama the middle finger, and that by 'the people' you meant 'the majority of the people'. Since the majority of the people voted for Hillary, not Trump, I think we've clearly established that, by your definition, your original claim was entirely incorrect, and that 'the people' did not in fact give the middle finger to Hillary and Obama, but rather gave it to Trump.

Thanks for clarifying what you meant by 'the people', so that we could show how your claim was backwards.

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But you specifically said "the majority of the people", that's directly referring to the popular vote not the electoral college.

How much Blue did you see? The US looked like a blood red state with blue mold on the end, cut those parts out and it still looks like the US, minus the mold.

And your original claim was that the people gave Hillary and Obama the middle finger, and that by 'the people' you meant 'the majority of the people'. Since the majority of the people voted for Hillary, not Trump, I think we've clearly established that, by your definition, your original claim was entirely incorrect, and that 'the people' did not in fact give the middle finger to Hillary and Obama, but rather gave it to Trump.

That's if you are talking about the popular vote, but we don't go by that, we go by the college electorate, so basically, but why do you Europeans care so much. The deal is done, the election is over and we should just move forward. I suggest liberals and Dems get together and try harder to win the trust of the people and not focus so much on the party and ideology. Good luck.

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Sore losers.Trump is really making you feel uneasy? Those people are part of the problem, not the solution. Change is inevitable, deal with it.

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Sore losers.Trump is really making you feel uneasy? Those people are part of the problem, not the solution. Change is inevitable, deal with it.

Exactly. It's going to be a long 4 years, either deal with it or build up ulcers.

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Jill Stein's campaign made $3.5M in funding for the election, compared with $4.5M (so far) for the recount, and a recount funding target of $7M.

Jill Stein on twitter, about Hillary and recount:

https://twitter.com/DrJillStein/status/802634974281220097

DrJillStein: Why would Hillary Clinton—who holds "public" and "private" positions—want to engage in something as transparent as #Recount2016? - 2:07 PM - 26 Nov 2016

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How much Blue did you see?

Since, according to you, we were talking about the majority of the people, I see that there are about 2 million more blue people than red.

That's if you are talking about the popular vote

Yes, which as you said, we were talking about 'the majority of the people', which is a reference to the the popular vote and not the electoral college.

why do you Europeans care so much

I'm not European, but ignoring that fact, you made a claim that the majority of the people gave Obama and Hillary the finger, we're simply pointing out how you were entirely incorrect with that statement, and that in fact the majority of the people gave Trump the middle finger. We care, because we want the world to know that not all Americans are ignorant fools, and in fact less than half the voters were, by a wide gap of 2 million voters.

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This is really getting ridiculous.

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Since, according to you, we were talking about the majority of the people, I see that there are about 2 million more blue people than red.

Ok, I got you, she got the popular vote, but we go by the college electorate system, so now Trump is president and that's all that matters, she's not and that's all that matters. Obama is almost out and Hillary will be with the grandkids. Life is great!

We care, because we want the world to know that not all Americans are ignorant fools, and in fact less than half the voters were, by a wide gap of 2 million voters.

On October 19th Hillary herself admitted that we should accept the outcome of the election no matter what, it is inconceivable and incomprehensible to contest the system and now she reneges on her words. But I welcome it, this is 200 all over again and the Democrats are going to once again shoot themselves in the foot. Oh, please do. Democrats never, never, never learn. LOL

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The Democrats have lost the house and senate, and iirc the number of democrat state governors is the lowest since the war.

If these recounts result in a Clinton presidency, the absolute best anyone can hope for is 4 years of getting nothing done.

The worst case scenario is civil war. If these recounts are not conducted with absolute transparency, that is a very real possibility. The Right is very well armed, and angry enough to vote in Trump. Let that sink in.

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Both Hillary and Trump are hypocrites. Hillary said she would accept the outcome - now she is challenging it. Those saying there is no fraud must be wondering why Hillary thinks there was fraud and is now protesting her defeat. If the process is corrupt and fraudulent all aspects should be locked down including implementing voter id. We all know that the way it works is that each side is willing to tolerate fraud if it helps them win. After seeing the corruption exposed by the WikiLeaks emails and exposure of the Democrats sending paid protestors to initiate violence at Republican political rallies, the entire American election process should be more closely supervised to prevent fraud and corruption.

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"Sore losers.Trump is really making you feel uneasy?"

Trump is making a lot of the world uneasy. This is the most unqualified, thin-skinned and short-tempered US president in our lifetimes.

I wouldn't trust anyone who didn't feel at least slightly uneasy about the prospect of a Trump presidency.

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I think Hillary should stay away from the request of recount and figure next election strategy. Don't be sore loser.

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bass4funk: "Oh, I so pray for this. We went through a blistering 21 month tiring election and the Dems are uttering the "I" word?"

Actually, some GOP members that voted for him are saying they predict he will be impeached, not just the Dems. And he will, quite quickly, given the people he's appointing.

And why are you so scared of the idea of a recount anyway if you are so sure of the results?

That's a rhetorical question.

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Toshiko, yes, shes a sore loser. But she wont be back. She got crushed in the election. The dems will never nominate her again.

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The New York billionaire . . . called the developing recount effort “a scam” in a statement released by his transition team. . . . The results of this election should be respected instead of being challenged and abused, which is exactly what Jill Stein is doing,”

Methinks thou doth protest too much.

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@Outsider: She will be back. She has been addicted to election too long. Just like gamble addicted people, she will not be able to stop. Reid retired now that Reid will be able to consecrate to back Hillary.

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The people have spoken and the election is over .....people have spoken, they certainly have and more than 2million people support Clinton over Trump, the election is over, most probably, but not just yet as it appears.

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But Trump was constantly hounded with screeching demands from the Hillary camp and the press that he honor the results of the election...

My how things have changed.

What's that smell?

It's the stench of hypocrisy.

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What happened to Mrs. Clinton's call for "a peaceful transition of power"?

The protests/riots, cry-ins, Play Doh, therapy dogs and coloring books didn't work; time for Plan B: recount. Alt left liberals actually believe a recount will change something. Ah, you can just smell the desperation. . . .

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It's like a zombie movie ... keep hacking it apart, it keeps returning ...

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I remember how the combined fake media, from CNN through the whole alphabet soup to the NYT, was all in a huff about Trump not saying he would unconditionally accept any election result. Oh the horror! The destroyer of democracy, bla bla bla.

Now look who refuses to accept the result. Are they screaming about Clinton destroying democracy?

Do the fake media puppets ever look in the mirror?

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Ok, I got you, she got the popular vote, but we go by the college electorate system, so now Trump is president

You're right, she ways YUUUUGELY more popular than Don the Con, even though he's going to be president. But, that's irrelevant, as it isn't what we were talking about. What we were talking about was your comment that the majority of the people gave Hillary and Obama the finger, which, was factually incorrect, seeing as she got 2million (and climbing) more votes than Don. The fact of the matter is that the people definitely did not give Hillary and Obama the finger, they gave Don the finger. But the system (aka the electoral college) is rigged, and so he won anyways.

What happened to Mrs. Clinton's call for "a peaceful transition of power"?

What happened to Don the Con saying the election was rigged? What happened to his stance that it is ok to not accept the results of the election when one doesn't win?

He made this bed, now he's lying in it.

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'Majority of the people'?

Hillary 64.2 million votes, Trump 62.2 million votes, population of USA, about 320M.

Put their two counts together and it doesn't even equal half of 'the people'.

Let alone the 4 million ineligible and dead people on the rolls, and the 3 million non-citizens illegally voting. And the absentee votes that won't be counted because their state has already been declared.

http://www.proudcons.com/stop-it-liberals-hillary-lost-the-popular-vote-by-several-million-heres-why/

Stop It, Liberals…Hillary Lost The Popular Vote By Several Million, Here’s Why - Nov 23, 2016

... The historical breakout for absentee ballots is about 67-33% Republican. In 2000, when Al Gore “won” the popular vote nationally by 500,000 votes and the liberal media screamed bloody murder, there were 2 million absentee ballots in California alone. A 67-33 breakout of those yields a 1.33 to 0.66 million Republican vote advantage, so Bush would have gotten a 667,000-vote margin from California’s uncounted absentee ballots alone! So much for Gore’s 500,000 popular vote “victory.” (That was the headline on the N.Y. Times, and it was the lead story on NBC Nightly News, right? No? You’re kidding.) ...

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What's all the fuss, didn't Hillary concede the election and say we should support the president-elect?

No worries:

Trump Won: No Recount Will Change That Fact

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0gfG5Xc8j0

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'Majority of the people'?

Hillary 64.2 million votes, Trump 62.2 million votes, population of USA, about 320M.

Fair enough, should have been the majority of the voters. Not that you would ever get Bass to admit that he used the wrong terminology though.

Let alone the 4 million ineligible and dead people on the rolls, and the 3 million non-citizens illegally voting.

But you keep ignoring the 23 million that double voted for Trump!

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Strangerland: But you keep ignoring the 23 million that double voted for Trump!

Got links?

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Let alone the 4 million ineligible and dead people on the rolls, and the 3 million non-citizens illegally voting.

Just to confirm: You believe that 7 million illegible people voted yet oppose a recount.

Again, I strongly doubt any recount will change the facts on the ground, yet I find your logic strange. Shouldn't people who hold that view support a recount, as it would allow Trump to surpass Clinton in the popular vote?

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Let alone the 4 million ineligible and dead people on the rolls, and the 3 million non-citizens illegally voting. And the absentee votes that won't be counted because their state has already been declared.

STOP PRESS:

Castro's deathbed confession: I voted for Hillary

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Laguna: Just to confirm: You believe that 7 million illegible people voted yet oppose a recount.

I didn't say that. The quote is '4 million ineligible and dead people on the rolls', not 4M voting.

Laguna: Shouldn't people who hold that view support a recount, as it would allow Trump to surpass Clinton in the popular vote?

I'm thinking any way that keeps Hillary out of office is the best way. We just missed World War 3!!!

But I wasn't one of the ones preaching "Imagine that! Trump won't accept the vote!!!" back in October. Hillary and Her Media and Her Loyal JT On-the-Boards Cohort were trying to turn it into Yet Another Reason To Not Vote For Trump, back then. Ignoring previous statements and actions from Gore, Obama, Hillary, etc., that agreed with Trump.

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Stein has re-set the recount donation page on her web site for the 4th time in less than a week. She now requires $7 million to conduct the recount in three states. Heh, milking alt left tears pays well. . . .

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Can she even do it in three states ? I believe in Pennsylvania you have to go before a judge and appeal the election in court.

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Turbo, if "4 million ineligible and dead people on the rolls" is indeed true, shouldn't they be weeded out? And that leaves the "3 million non-citizens illegally voting" - which, if indeed is the case, should also be rectified.

I have no idea why the Trump camp is panicking. This recount will likely go nowhere - it has no support from the White House and lukewarm support from the Hillary campaign.

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I think she should watch what Trump does or does not. He might behave better than people guess.

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Laguna: Turbo, if "4 million ineligible and dead people on the rolls" is indeed true, shouldn't they be weeded out? And that leaves the "3 million non-citizens illegally voting" - which, if indeed is the case, should also be rectified.

Jill, Hillary, Democrats are not calling for that.

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It would seem to me that any person respecting democracy would have no problem with a re-count. Especially with plenty of evidence of Kremiln messers.

Even the Deplorables should be enraged that the entire system is being brought into disrepute - but no - we're already back to the last Republican train-wreck in the Whitehouse where any criticism is helpin' the terrorists.....

In fact both Trump and his Deplorables seem very in edge about this. I wonder why?

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Strangerland: But you keep ignoring the 23 million that double voted for Trump!

Got links?

Yep: https://realitycheckpopularvote.wordpress.com/2016/11/27/exit-polls-show-23-million-people-double-voted-for-trump/

Just read the article. It's really real, just like the links you provide.

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But you keep ignoring the 23 million that double voted for Trump!

The fact that the MSM are not covering this should dispel any doubts about its accuracy.

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The fact that the MSM are not covering this should dispel any doubts about its accuracy.

I'm glad your doubts as to its accuracy have been dispelled.

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I see @strangerland is back to his old ways. Listen hillary bots, trump was a horrendous option. However, failure to accept defeat makes her and her campaign look amateurish to say the least. The ships sailed folks. Good luck in four years!!

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Hey Jill Steinfeld, New Yorkers have a long memory, so come January 20th payback is going to be a b*tch...

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Remember when Hillary said, "Not Accepting the results of the Election is a direct assault on our Democracy."

That was when she assumed she would win. Now, refuses to accept the result herself. HYPOCRITE!

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Remember when Hillary said, "Not Accepting the results of the Election is a direct assault on our Democracy."

That was when she assumed she would win. Now, refuses to accept the result herself. HYPOCRITE!

Remember when Trump said he wouldn't accept the results of the election unless he won?

That was when he assumed he'd lose. Now he complains about his opposition doing what he said he'd do. HYPOCRITE!

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Remember when Trump called the Electoral College a "disaster for democracy" after the clown mistakenly thought Romney had beaten Obama in the popular vote in 2012?

Hypocritical, deplorable bonehead.

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While obviously a large part of the country (and the world) has woken up the globalist scam and lying corporate media who assist it, a part of populace STILL does not look further than the headlines in the corrupt corporate media.

Perhaps that is true, WilliB - but which side would that be?

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Laguna: I have no idea why the Trump camp is panicking

I think Trump is upset that someone is challenging the legitimacy of his presidency. I guess the world's most famous birther doesn't like that.

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It's like a zombie movie ... keep hacking it apart, it keeps returning yes I agree the Trump groans are constant, best way to fix a zombie is a bullet or stake to the head.

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I thought that this is what Trump said he would do if he lost the election.

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In spite of what she said the day after the election, conceding the election and hoping that Trump will be a successful president, Hilllary's baaaaaaaack!

This is what happens when you don't cut the head off the snake.

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By Thursday, we will know the results of recounts. She collected a lot of money.

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Any candidate can ask for a recount. In this case she'll have to pay for it. What's the problem?

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It's not about "being a sore loser". It's about making sure the democratic process hasn't been mishandled, tampered with, nor screwed over.

If it's 100% accurate then there should be no problem or questions and Trump would remain the winner. If he truly was elected without issues then what is there for him and the GOP to worry about?

I've always taken the approach that, if you don't do anything wrong or illegal, you have nothing to worry about. The truth is always harder to cover up..

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That was when she assumed she would win. Now, refuses to accept the result herself. HYPOCRITE! Trump never said hell accept the result if he lost , only if he won!. so now the democrats want a recount on some states, Trump is calling them out as a scam. LOL In a fight the person who throws the first punch is ejected from the game. Trumps clearly the founding hypocrite in this fiasco.

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For arguments sake if some 16 millions double voted for Trump. What process restricted them from continually multiplying their vote?...

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You're right, she ways YUUUUGELY more popular than Don the Con, even though he's going to be president. But, that's irrelevant

Exactly! So as now the president elect, good things will hopefully happen, no need to look back in the past, can't be changed and our system is what it is, if people don't like it, tough. Dems and libs are NEVER satisfied regardless when a conservative is in power, so why on Earth should anyone care? If the system could be changed at the blink of an eye, fine, but the reality is, it can't and it shouldn't and if it would benefit the Democrats every single election cycle, you bet they wouldn't want it changed either.

I think Trump is upset that someone is challenging the legitimacy of his presidency. I guess the world's most famous birther doesn't like that.

Hillary would be upset if she won and she were challenged and rightfully so. Man, this is the best Christmas gift ever. LOL

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For readers not acquainted with the US election process....

Presidential Election Process.......

https://www.usa.gov/election#item-36072

It is worth noting (scroll down) how the electoral college process evolved....

What is the Electoral College?

https://www.archives.gov/federal-register/electoral-college/about.html

Also of interest there is a section devoted to Special Situations-Winning the Popular Vote but Losing the Election

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" Trump slams recount push as a scam; says election is over "

....oh he only "says" the election is over, and he "slams" the recount push? Just take a step back and image imagine the screaming headlines in the corporate media, if the shoe was on the other foot. Hypocrites.

But that does not surprise anyone who has bothered to look outside of the alphabet soup mainstream media, of course. What is embarrassing is that there are still low-information people who swallow what CNN, NYT et al feed them.

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So as now the president elect, good things will hopefully happen, no need to look back in the past

But you were the one looking back on the past, when you made your entirely incorrect claim that the people gave Hillary and Obama the finger, when in fact they gave Trump the finger.

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Well a scam would be Trump University where Trump pocketed millions from hard working Americans who trusted him and his brand.

This is just a recount that will most likely yield the same result. No harm done.

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Serrano:

" In spite of what she said the day after the election, conceding the election and hoping that Trump will be a successful president, Hilllary's baaaaaaaack! "

She will keep coming back as long as they can keep her alive. Soros, Saudi Arabia, and Wall Street have invested too much much her to just drop her.

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Trump does not want the American electorate to be reminded that the candidate they ACTUALLY CHOSE was someone by the name of H I L L A R Y C L I N T O N.

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mukashiyhokatta:

So YOU wanted the corrupt warmonger Clinton in the White House? Speak for yourself.

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Before Nov. 8, the radical alt left media whined on and on about how the eventual President-elect's “refusal” to accept the election results were un-American. Mrs. Clinton doubled down by calling what the eventual President-elect's said “horrifying".

Did I spell Hypocrisy correct?

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Before Nov. 8, the radical alt left media whined on and on about how the eventual President-elect's “refusal” to accept the election results were un-American. Mrs. Clinton doubled down by calling what the eventual President-elect's said “horrifying".

Did I spell Hypocrisy correct?

Before the Nov. 8 election, Trump whined about how the election was rigged, and indicated that he wouldn't accept the results of the election if Clinton won. He then doubled down on this by saying that he would however accept them if he won.

Did I spell hypocrisy correct?

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So YOU wanted the corrupt warmonger Clinton in the White House? Speak for yourself.

The voters did. By a YUUUUUGE margin.

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But you were the one looking back on the past, when you made your entirely incorrect claim that the people gave Hillary and Obama the finger, when in fact they gave Trump the finger.

If that were true, Hillary would be president, but she's not, the man can't elevate himself to the oval office, but I appreciate all of middle America. By the way, where is Hillary these days and will you be watching President elect Trump's official inauguration. I will. The next 8 years should be great. Lol

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That's not what you said earlier:

the people threw up the middle finger to Obama and to Hillary

Then you clarified that by 'the people', you meant:

the majority of the people.

Now you're changing your tune.

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Strangerland:

" The voters did. By a YUUUUUGE margin. "

I am not so sure about that "YUUUUGE" marging, considering all these dead, fake and illegal people who voted (you might want to turn off CNN for a moment and read on Wikileaks

But yes, your country is obviously divided. There are those who watch CNN and read the NYT and Huffpost and gobble up the globalist propaganda. And there are those who have woken up to it and resent it. So obviously there is no such thing as "the voters".

So again, speak for yourself.

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Did I spell Hypocrisy correct?

I think it's spelled c-o-n-f-u-s-e-d.

The recount bid has been brought by Jill Stein, not Clinton. I read that the Democrats are not that keen on the idea, but have agreed to go along with it.

What does anyone expect to result from this? The original gap in Wisconsin was in the order of 20,000 votes. That's a large gap. If there was any substantial difference after a recount, that would suggest either bias in the original count or bias in the recount (or bias in both). I think the Dems think there will be no substantial difference in the recount, but if there were it might reflect just as badly on themselves.

I've read that there will be some kind of additional audit as part of the recount. I don't have details. If anyone knows, please share. But if it is able to check on the number of dead people voting or people voting multiple times, that might be interesting information to have. It might help for future elections.

If after a recount and audit, the result were reversed, it would be an almost unbelievable turnaround. It would certainly be necessary to explain any difference between the original count and a recount.

Why is Trump attacking the recount? He should be saying, "Bring it on!." Does he know something? Or is he just being his usual objectionable self? I'll go for the latter.

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No SoS is going to reverse their state's decision at this stage. Stein is just promoting herself with the recounts, trying to cash in on dissatisfaction with the results and electoral process in general.

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turbotsat: Got links?

Strangerland: Yep: https://realitycheckpopularvote.wordpress.com/2016/11/27/exit-polls-show-23-million-people-double-voted-for-trump/ Just read the article. It's really real, just like the links you provide.

Your link is a fake wordpress blog site. It has exactly two posts, both nonsensical, and anyone could make it up and post it.

How does that compare to the peer-reviewed Elsevier / ScienceDirect paper I posted the link to?

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@Albaleo....Like your analysis. I agree Trump should be saying, "bring it on" especially as he indicated in the 2nd debate he was not sure if he would accept the election results....(cannot remember his exact phrase).

A recount that would overturn the election after all this would really divide the country beyond repair in my opinion (as the US is nearly divided beyond repair as it is).

Rightly or wrongly so if there are valid reasons to believe the original count is in error, count it again. It is that important. I dislike both candidates but for the sake of the country I hope this does not overturn the election (in spite of the fact I think Mr. Trump does not appear to be fit for office) as it would really, really divide the country in a bad way.

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Your link is a fake wordpress blog site. It has exactly two posts, both nonsensical, and anyone could make it up and post it.

So you do have the ability to differentiate reality from crap.

How does that compare to the peer-reviewed Elsevier / ScienceDirect paper I posted the link to?

The one you posted is better written.

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Strangerland: So you do have the ability to differentiate reality from crap.

Posting nonsense in response to hard facts and data and claiming equivalency ... is that a Correct The Record tactic?

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/21/hillary-pac-spends-1-million-to-correct-commenters-on-reddit-and-facebook.html

Hillary PAC Spends $1 Million to ‘Correct’ Commenters on Reddit and Facebook - 04.21.16

FEC loopholes mean Correct the Record can openly coordinate with Clinton’s campaign.

... Correct the Record’s “Barrier Breakers” project boasts in a press release that it has already “addressed more than 5,000 people that have personally attacked Hillary Clinton on Twitter.” ...

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"The voters did. By a YUUUUUGE margin."

And the comment proves ignorance of the Electoral College process.

I personally think that the Electoral votes of each state should represent the majority choices by county.

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This ends the bickering between you and Strangerland. Please do not address each other any further on this thread.

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albalelo:

" The recount bid has been brought by Jill Stein, not Clinton. I read that the Democrats are not that keen on the idea, but have agreed to go along with it. What does anyone expect to result from this? "

....and quite enthusiastically, "they" (the democrats and their globalist sponsors) went along with it. The "goal" is delegitimioze the presidecy. No matter what, for the next 4 years+, we know the hamfisted talking points that will be lobbed at us from CNN and the basket of gullible listeners.

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How about his illicit usage of fund from the Trump foundation for his presidential campaign and personal financing. IRS is going to have fun scrutinizing his financial records.

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Triring:

" How about his illicit usage of fund from the Trump foundation for his presidential campaign and personal financing. IRS is going to have fun scrutinizing his financial records. "

I am sure they will, seeing that the justice system is dominated by partisan activists, But did you stop typing long enough to consider that the Trump foundation did NOT dish out political favours in exchange for "donations"? For the simple reason that Trump did not hold any political office?

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LOL, current top story at Google News is a Trump 'tweet flurry':

https://news.google.com/

In Tweet Flurry, President-Elect Donald Trump Calls Election Recount Efforts 'Sad' NBCNews.com - ‎43 minutes ago‎

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/tweet-flurry-president-elect-donald-trump-calls-recount-efforts-sad-n688761

A tweet flurry!!!

Is this a slow news day, or the new norm for journalism? ...

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The hypocrisy on both sides is astounding. But hypocrisy has become a hallmark of modern politics - especially in America. I do love it how the Left is making two different arguments at the same time though. In North Carolina, the Left is incensed that Republicans asked for a recount in the Governors race when the difference is about 5,000 votes out of 5.5 million caste. But Hillary's political donors and their ally Jill Stein are currently behind a recount in Wisconsin where she is behind by about 25,000 votes out of about 2.8 million caste.

By all means when the results are close the votes should be verified. And if there is any doubt about the voting mechanisms they should be verified as well. But it seems each side only cares about the integrity of the election if they stand to benefit in some way. That is why there is such huge opposition to voter id by Democrats. They know that they stand to lose votes if voter eligibility is scrutinized. Dems are also adamant about early voting and same day registration because they have traditionally had a manpower advantage over Republicans and are able to go out and physically move their supporters to the polls much better than Republicans. If the opposite were true they would no doubt be against it.

The election process is a game in which both sides jockey for advantage. "Democracy" is beside the point.

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If the Leftists and SJWs want to get butt hurt again, why not? Do a recount.

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Under no circumstances can Hillary possible win in any recount. The absolute best possibility she could hope for is that any recounts cannot be completed by the reported deadline, and Trump does not get those states' electoral college votes, putting him below the 270 mark. if that happens, then the congress and senate vote, each state getting one vote each. Should this happen, Trump would still win.

This is only about Stein getting millions of dollars from disgruntled Hillary supporters, and nothing more.

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@Wolfpack...well stated. It appears Ms. Stein was late filing for the recount in Pennsylvania, which was not super close. It will be interesting to see where the legal challenge goes. The dichotomy you have pointed out is interesting.

I am actually all for recounts when races are "close" however there would have to be some type of metric applied so it is not subjective (for example based on a margin of error based on statistics or something).

I like Jill Stein but lost some respect for her as during the campaign she was stating that if Hillary Clinton was elected there was a high chance of nuclear war between Russia and the U.S. and now that Trump has won she is spearheading the recount effort. Guess she is turning out to be just another politician.

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A recount/validation of the votes should be standard practice for all above-board elections.

I think the states don't want to pay the overtime necessary to make it happen or for their voting machines to show huge weaknesses for audits. My state only uses voting machines and no paper record of my vote is created. I just don't think those votes can honestly be audited - proved to be what each voter actually pressed.

BTW, I didn't vote for Ms. Clinton.

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"It's a scam," he says -- and just what is the source of your information, Mr Trump? Oh, you don't have any ... that's what I thought.

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Couldn't the Clinton Foundation chip in a few dollars? After all, it paid the $3 million for Chelsea's wedding!

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Couldn't the Clinton Foundation chip in a few dollars? After all, it paid the $3 million for Chelsea's wedding!

Come on not even the Clintons would be so garish as to spend $3 million on their daughters wedding! Where would they get that kind of loose cash - from their charity? I cannot fathom the kind of people that would spend that kind of money for a one day event? Sounds like something the King of some Middle Eastern petro-state would do.

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For those readers who scrolled down through more than a hundred comments oozing invective and vituperation but no facts to enlighten us with the nitty-gritty details on how this year's election was actually "rigged" (to quote the future Dealmaker-in-Chief) and who have the guts to digest the stomach-churning nasty ingredients that went into the making of "the best democracy money can buy" I will say two words: GREG PALAST. Enjoy!

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I just hope the recount will provide a catharsis for the Left to deal with their extreme grief over the election results. Safe spaces, coloring books, play dough and puppies just don't seem to be helping them very much.

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in Wisconsin recounts have commenced, and after one day of counting, Hillary is already catching up, by a single vote.

No one involved really believes that Hillary will win any recount, it simply isn't possible. And if the recounts delay certification past December 13th, and Trump does not get the full 270 votes in the electoral college, Trump still wins. This is because if the votes themselves cannot be certified by the deadline, and there aren't enough electoral votes, then the states themselves vote directly for the president. Each state gets one vote, and far more states voted for Trump.

Once again, this is just another ploy buy a politician to manipulate disgruntled Hillary supporters (who will grasp at any straw) into parting with millions of dollars of their money. On top of this, there is the taxpayer's money being lost by the states involved, as the recount funds raised by Stein will not fully cover the costs of these recounts.

Elections in America are huge machines for generating spectacular amounts of money, and spectacular amounts of graft. Hillary, Bernie, Rubio, and Cruz all lost their election bids, but they enriched their friends and associates by many millions of dollars. All of the vast amounts of money spent to pollsters, law firms, advertising companies, media companies, etc, all comes with an implicit promise for something in return. Much of the money raised by Stein for her recounts will be absorbed in expenses by her staff, or, in other words, go into her pockets.

If the media and the polls said that Hillary was far ahead of Trump leading up to election day, it was because they were paid to say so. Hillary spent 50 times as much money on mainstream media advertising as Trump did, and those who collected this money of course supported the candidate who paid it. Had Trump outspent Hillary by the same amount, the polls would have been much better for him.

One positive thing that we can take from this election was that the victory wasn't bought by the candidate who spent the most money, which is usually the case.

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In a democratic country I could not be against recount votes, even if they want to do it in all the states.

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