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Trump still fuels racial divide a year after Charlottesville

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If republican politicians had any morals they would denounce these racists and tell them there is no place for them in the republican party, sadly they court their votes starting with the comb over in the white house.

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Racist or not, right or wrong, using inflammable spray against demonstrators is wrong!

If someone is committing a crime then that is a job for law and order.

Incitement and dangerous actions literally add fuel to the fire....

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Donald "The Grand Wizard" Trump - the KKK and David Duke's favorite politician. What a disgrace and embarrassment.

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Beat me to it kurisupisu

No need for those types of actions. Protest, make your voice heard but do it peacefully. Doesn't matter what side of the political fence you sit ...

you could say it literally inflames the situation.

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If republican politicians had any morals they would denounce these racists and tell them there is no place for them in the republican party, sadly they court their votes starting with the comb over in the white house.

If the MSM would get out take some air and learn about honesty instead of working for clicks and just pure opposition they would know full well that the President has repeatedly denounced these morons, but sadly, the same can’t be said about the lefts excuse of failure for not denouncing radical leftist groups like Antifa. Both of these groups are toxic and should be denounced in the strongest terms and the left choosing only one shows the intent and political partisan nature of these people.

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Trump is fueling a great world economy, a safe society, high stocks and low unemployment... For those who care more about social issues, yeah you can have all that I'll take prosperity. Which Trump is bringing in boatloads...

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Dango

Unemployment for Blacks and Hispanics has been falling for years, but as Trump likes to do, he will take credit for it.

Bass

Seem to remember Nancy Pelosi and a few other Democrats denouncing the actions of ANTIFA... Like Trump you seem to be quite selective.

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I'll take prosperity. Which Trump is bringing in boatloads...

He made America's Economy Great Again, just like 2008!

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From a 2005 60 Minutes interview:

MIKE WALLACE: How are we going to get rid of racism...?

MORGAN FREEMAN: Stop talking about it. I’m going to stop calling you a white man. And I’m going to ask you to stop calling me a black man. 

Race baiting media outlets and left and right wing agitators need to heed Morgan Freeman's advice.

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Race baiting media outlets and left and right wing agitators need to heed Morgan Freeman's advice.

That could be the right approach.

Unfortunately, the US president gives publicity to racist groups on his Twitter account.

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Trump has brought about the greatest separation in US history since the Civil War. There's a reason why so many White Power people are running on the Republican Party, and FOX news all think that "The dream of our white nation is unrecognizable with all the immigrants, legal and illegal" (and yes, they are pretty much ALL racists at FOX, and everyone knows it). The nazis are on the rise thanks to Trump, plain and simple.

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Great photograph. I'm impressed by the sheer inappropriateness (given the circumstances) of what's scrawled on the step between the jackboots of the "white nationalist demonstrator".

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You gotta feel a bit of sympathy for the man as he has quite a fine line to tread: Feeding his base the racist statements they require to stay loyal (because they'd turn, even on him) in words vague enough not to outrage the general population is no easy task.

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Concerned CitizenToday  09:35 am JST

Race baiting media outlets and left and right wing agitators need to heed Morgan Freeman's advice.

Wingers howl and scream and gnash their teeth whenever anyone from Hollywood says anything about how people should live, unless they think it will win them an argument on the Internet, in which case that Hollywood celebrity with no evidence to support their opinion suddenly becomes infallible in the wingers' eyes.

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This picture does a great job of summing up Trump supporters - a bunch of overweight, pasty white guys, in jack boots and ray bans, waving the Confederate Flag. The white sheets and the rope and noose must be hidden in bags somewhere...

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So for some reason this day gets an “anniversary”. I suppose for the next 6 years Trump is in office we will be reading this same exact type of hitjob article.

3 years from now article: Today, on the 4th anniversary of Charlottesville, the racist orange dotard is still President. Despite winning re-election with 25% of the African American vote and no proof of Russian meddling in the 2020 election, Trump is still a racist and everything is still Russia’s fault.

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This type of photo certainly supports many whites' view of blacks. Violent and out of control.

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@Reckless

This type of photo certainly supports many whites' view of blacks. Violent and out of control.

I am glad that someone has admitted that there are a lot of White racists in the US although their reasons are mostly projecting their own behavior. The rally in the photo was started by White groups that want to either kill or enslave all racial minority groups. In the last thousands years of human history, it has been Europeans who have sought to eliminate indigenous peoples for land or wealth, chain Africans, and denigrate Asians. No one has that kind of track for over a millennia.

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There was only one side in the Charlottesville affair which considered it a valid response to drive a vehicle into the ranks of the opposition, killing one and wounding 19. That fact alone means that when it comes to condemning the violence, most of the blame can be assigned to the side to which that man, the driver, belonged. Most people would understand that. Trump - and those who would defend him - show by their comments that he they don't.

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BlacklabelToday  11:27 am JST

So for some reason this day gets an “anniversary”.

The reason would be that a Trump supporter committed a terrorist attack against an innocent and non-violent counter-protester, which white supremacist communities applauded and which Trump consistently refused to unambiguously condemn without later walking back his condemnation with weaselly-weak "both sides" rhetoric.

The reason is that Trump was supported by and supported a terrorist attack.

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Let's not get sucked into the media and politically driven race wars, identity politics and finger pointing. (CNN, FOX, MSNBC, JT, Democratic and Republican parties etc.)

Let's rise above it and try our best to love our neighbors as ourselves. Not easy to do. But we can at least try.

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Love the richness of this article:

New Jersey Sen. Cory Booker, a Democrat and one of just three African-Americans in the Senate, warned that the consequences for Trump's tone and actions could extend well beyond political pain.

“Just three”?

"Just look at the past 45 Presidents of the US - how many were white? OK, they let us have one..."

If I may rework this poster’s comment:

“They let us have three... (black Senators)”

“They”? White people? Maybe that is the number of Senate seats that the DNC had alotted black political aspirants. Perhaps the DNC is a clandestine white supremacist organization?

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"I have plenty more examples, but I have a meeting to go to tonight, and I have to wash my sheet first..."

Did you ever ask yourself why so many more black Americans are in prison today as opposed to during the Jim Crowe era? There is no systemic government laws in America today that discriminate by race - except for affirmative action and it’s related policies adopted throughout the private sector. So how was the klan meeting last night? Did you have a special reading of Mein Kampf - that’s always a popular event with people who identify as racist.

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Did you ever ask yourself why so many more black Americans are in prison today as opposed to during the Jim Crowe era?

Many sociologists have asked precisely that question and have subjected it to numerous, statistic-supported studies. Results generally coalesce around the conclusion that innate racism towards blacks begins at their birth, and like a game of Jenga, opportunities are removed progressively., while blockades are constructed (okay, the latter is not like a game of Jenga).

In other words, it is exactly the opposite of Trump's life experience. There is little wonder why he cannot comprehend this.

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Seem to remember Nancy Pelosi and a few other Democrats denouncing the actions of ANTIFA... Like Trump you seem to be quite selective.

When did the media cover it? I’m sorry with all the mental TDS hysteria going on, I’m floored that they actually did report on that. Huh, didn’t realize. There is hope for these people after all.

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So whatever happened to the trial of the supposed white supremacist who supposedly intentionally committed this act of terror?

Has anyone proven his guilt or intent in a court of law? Or are we doing the “it fits our narrative that he is guilty in advance of trial again”?

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Trump is fueling a great world economy, a safe society, high stocks and low unemployment...

Exactly. Trump is recorded saying the N-word. But as long as my 401K is rocking then who cares??? And if my 401K goes down I will just blame President Hillary and Antifa. Trump takes credit for good things happening and President Hillary and Antifa takes credit for bad things happening.

Did you ever ask yourself why so many more black Americans are in prison today as opposed to during the Jim Crowe era?

President Hillary. Something bad, it's President Hillary's fault and Antifa

Trump is still a racist

Yes, the (failed) Muslim ban, the Mexico wall, and he said N-word on tape.

The NFL players started kneeling during the Obama administration- not Trump.

Trump has failed if they are still kneeling. He was supposed to fix this problem.

Trump is politically incorrect.

Yes, he said the N-word.

Well, the racist followers of the party 

Trump said the N-word

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innate racism towards blacks begins at their birth, and like a game of Jenga

If racism is innate and even a newborn baby in America cannot escape its effects, what do you propose as a solution? If the innateness of racism could ever be proved, it would explain why decades of anti-racist messaging and childhood education campaigns have not had the desired effects. Would you support changing discrimination and housing laws so that black people could establish their own racially homogeneous communities, hospitals and businesses free from the influence of innate white racism?

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So whatever happened to the trial of the supposed white supremacist who supposedly intentionally committed this act of terror?Has anyone proven his guilt or intent in a court of law? Or are we doing the “it fits our narrative that he is guilty in advance of trial again”?

Had you bothered to actually look this up, you'd discover that a three-week jury trial for Fields is scheduled to begin later this year on November 26.

He is charged with first-degree murder, five counts of malicious wounding, three counts of aggravated malicious wounding, and failure to stop in event of injury or death. All the charges are felonies.

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The racial problems between blacks and whites in the U.S. haven't changed much in the last 50 or so years. Martin Luther King's integration "Dream" still hasn't erased or solved the black's racial nightmares.

Read up on Malcolm X and Stokely Carmichael and their views. They advocated black separatism, independence and black nationalism, not integration. Integration, they believed is harmful to the black population. As blacks integrate to white communities they are perpetuating a system in which blacks are inferior to whites. Blacks would continue to function in an environment of being second class citizens and never reach equity to white citizens. A Black Nation would work to reverse the exploitation of the black race in America, as blacks would intrinsically work to benefit their own state of affairs.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stokely_Carmichael

Maybe Malcolm X and Carmichael were right after all. Separatism and a separate Black Nation would have been the better solution.

(By the way, its interesting to read here that the consensus is that the whites have a monopoly on innate racism. Malcolm X and Stokely Carmichael are (were) blacks and their views reflected the same bigotry, racism and hatred toward the whites.)

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My point is that if his trial is in late November this year (as I knew) how is it that all the stories say a white supremacist intentionally murdered a woman in an act of terrorism like this is the truth?

also it’s comvenient that this story can be repeated ad nauseum for 1.5 years until the person even starts their trial.

then if it is found that something different happened, like an accident, liberals still have benefitted from the daily “but muh racism” narrative.

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White liberals are the worst racists there are. They claim minorities don’t even have the money or ability to get an ID so they can vote. Can’t get into college without affirmative action. Can’t get a job without quotas. Everyone has to get special treatment to be “equal”.

I believe minorities can do all of these things and more while being treated the same as anyone else of any skin color. They don’t need to be treated specially to excel. Giving exceptions to minorities demeans the achievements of those who didn’t need any exemptions and just earned what they have.

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"Trump still fuels racial divide"

Diamond and Silk disagree. I think they're right.

 Diamond & Silk sound off on Chicago violence

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aejod5qvSJ8

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*If racism is innate and even a newborn baby in America cannot escape its effects, what do you propose as a solution? If the innateness of racism could ever be proved, it would explain why decades of anti-racist messaging and childhood education campaigns have not had the desired effects. Would you support changing discrimination and housing laws so that black people could establish their own racially homogeneous communities, hospitals and businesses free from the influence of innate white racism?(M3M3M3)*

That's exactly what Malcolm X and Stokely Carmichael and Black Nationalism supported.

Malcolm X believed blacks must develop their own society and ethical values, including the self-help, community-based enterprises. Carmichael believed blacks should function in an environment of running their own businesses, banks, government, media and so on and so forth. Black Nationalism and a separate Black State would allow blacks to socially, economically and politically be empowered and work to benefit their own state of affairs.

This was the intent of Black Nationalism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_nationalism

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Maybe Malcolm X and Carmichael were right after all. Separatism and a separate Black Nation would have been the better solution.

Disagree. Humans must eventually get over tribalism if we're going to survive as a species - and continued segregation simply aggravates prejudices.

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Humans must eventually get over tribalism if we're going to survive as a species

Then it seems you don't actually believe that racism is innate.

My personal view is that the more we learn about neuroscience and how the brain functions, the more likely it is that we will discover an innate biological underpinning to racism (just like many other human behaviours). At the moment we treat racism as if it's purely an immoral choice that everyone makes (just like drunk driving or being a thief) but I think we will eventually come to see racists as also being victims of their own racist thoughts once we fully understand the science. The same thing is happening with with alcoholism as we understand how different people's brains are predisposed to alcohol addiction.

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White liberals are the worst racists there are.

(White) Trump is recorded saying the N-word. Also, the Muslim ban. Also, the wall (that Mexico won't pay for)

Hillary is not in prison right now...

...because of Trump's incompetence. She is still getting away with PizzaGate on Trump's watch.

Yes, we scream lock her up BECAUSE she should have been indicted and sent to trial but wasn’t.

Ha ha ha, it makes Trump look stupid and people keep laughing at him

I believe minorities can do all of these things and more while being treated the same as anyone else of any skin color.

Including orange people like Trump

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Then it seems you don't actually believe that racism is innate.

Actually, I believe that racism is innate, but also that innate human nature can be changed. One can cultivate the nature of a tame animal but not so much that of the wild - and humans are somewhat tame (I have a whippet so observe this behavior daily).

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My personal view is that the more we learn about neuroscience and how the brain functions, the more likely it is that we will discover an innate biological underpinning to racism (just like many other human behaviours).

If proven, ”an innate biological underpinning” might leave actual perpetrators of racially inspired violence off the hook. “The devil DNA made me do it.” Not good enough.

Is there anyone who thinks that people who hold what may be considered “racist” views by some cannot restrain themselves from acting them out? Most people can and do. That’s tolerance.

My personal view is that the more often people restrain themselves, the more likely they are to not act with intolerance.

Let the intolerant at both ends of the spectrum duke it out. MSM needs to provide jobs for reporters.

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@Laguna

Thanks for explaining. I agree with many of your points, but how much time and money is needed to tame human beings to no longer be racist? And what happens with people who choose not to participate in the experiment to tame nature? Should we condemn them morally or accept their choice? The idea that we can (or should) socially engineer people is one that I'm very uncomfortable with. It strikes me as very utopian and eerily close to the idea of the Übermensch, but this time we are trying to breed the Übermensch to be free of unconscious racial bias or racial preference rather than to be blonde and blue eyed.

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My personal view is that the more often people restrain themselves, the more likely they are to not act with intolerance.

Agreed. And this implies education and training, preferably from a young age. Even American chauvinists can be made to understand how diversity contributes to the strength and success of the US and leads humanity to a higher level.

I'm an optimist about this, having seen the mutual hostility disparate white groups once displayed evaporate. At least Trump has brought America's more racist populace into the open - and sunlight is the best disinfectant.

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Except that diversity leads to strength is a liberal virtual signalling phrase.

would a “diverse” NBA team be stronger than one that simply has the best players regardless of color? Even if that meant every player was of the same color?

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Everyone knows Trump is racist. Some people support it, some people forgive it, and some people fight it.

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If proven, ”an innate biological underpinning” might leave actual perpetrators of racially inspired violence off the hook. “The devil DNA made me do it.” Not good enough.

I don't think anyone would ever advocate for excusing racist violence. I certainly wouldn't. Even if racism is proved to contain an element of biological innateness, the incarceration of people who commit racist violence would still be fully justified on the basis of protecting the community. This is why we still lock up the criminally insane and drunk drivers predisposed to alcoholism. What I foresee changing eventually is the moral condemnation we direct at people who express racist views. Some of these people are completely consumed by racist thoughts to the point that they are terrified to go outside, or get a job, or move to a big city because they feel so uncomfortable with people of other races. This should probably get a bit of sympathy and a clinical diagnosis rather than a punch in the face or a criminal conviction for hate speech in some countries.

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Bass

When did the media cover it? I’m sorry with all the mental TDS hysteria going on, I’m floored that they actually did report on that. Huh, didn’t realize. There is hope for these people after all.

Probably wasn’t on Fox and Friends, nor reported on Breitbart.

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Actually, I believe that racism is innate, but also that innate human nature can be changed.

First of all, racism isn't innate. Discrimination and tribalism is innate because it is a useful survival tool. Racism is taught.

African-americans who ancestors been in the US since have tried to segregate and integrate. The problem was always whites.

Since the days of slavery, the propagation of the myth of the predatory Black man has been used to instill fear in whites and to justify their brutality and violence against Black individuals, communities and continents. The narrative has been passed down from one generation to the next and is still used to underwrite injustice against Black people.(Stand your Ground, Justice system, Jim Crow laws, constitution, Black Wall Street, Malcolm X, Martin Luther KIng, Drugs placed into the community)

The reason why there are still racial problems:

A. Black Male Predator Narrative

Since the days of slavery, the propagation of the myth of the predatory Black man has been used to instill fear in whites and to justify their brutality and violence against Black individuals, communities and continents. The narrative has been passed down from one generation to the next and is still used to underwrite injustice against Black people.( Jim Crow laws, 13th amendment, segregation, police brutality, Drugs put into the community, assassination of political leaders who wanted to help Blacks)

B. Revenge

The enslavement of Africans resulted in a plethora of uprisings, from the Haitian Rebellion to Nat Turner’s rebellion. Since then, whites have developed a pathological fear that oppressed Blacks will one day rise up and inflict vengeance upon their oppressors.(Fear of a Black President)

C. Projection

The psychological defense mechanism called projection – when one accuses someone of having traits they refuse to acknowledge in themselves – may also explain why white people fear violence from Black people. Instead of acknowledging the past and present forms of violence Black people have suffered at the hands of whites, it is projected onto the victims themselves.(Police brutality, Stand your ground, you are racist against whites)

D.Media Propaganda

Historically and up until present times, the media continue to broadcast daily imagery of Black men as dangerously criminal, using and dealing drugs,  hypersexual, unemployable, idle and the epitome of death and doom. This is true despite the reality that white people have, and do, participate in mob and domestic violence in higher numbers, and that whites comprise more than 70 percent of drug abusers and dealers in our country. And are most likely to be serial killers, pedophiles and mass murders.(FOX, Hannity, Oreilly, Ingraham, Dump and associates)

E. Moral Blindness

White people’s fear of Blacks also stems from a form of moral blindness, in which Black bodies remind them of the terrible crimes from an ugly past, but they are unable to own up to it because they have bought into the Black predator myth and practice projection. Instead, they deny, shift blame, lie, twist facts and characterize Black people into a people to fear.(Closet racists. My friend is Black)

F. Reprisal From Fellow Whites

Whites also fear becoming outcasts among whites by associating and sympathizing with Black folks.(I don't see race.)

G. Genetic Annihilation

Whiteness is genetically recessive, some whites fear that integration and miscegenation will result in the annihilation of the white race. Therefore, they established a global system of “White Supremacy” and its subsystems of racism and segregation to prevent it.(white supremacist talking point)

H. Fear of Black Power

Many whites who directly benefit from the current plight of Black people fear that their enlightenment and subsequent organizing will result in the inability to exploit and benefit from their resources, as well as a reclaiming of their historic legacy.(elite whites, politicians, FOX, private prisons, entertainment, sports owners, white farmers)

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the more we learn about neuroscience and how the brain functions, the more likely it is that we will discover an innate biological underpinning to racism

I find this very unlikely, simply because there is no clear way to define racial distinctions. More likely is an innate tendency to follow social norms. We are wary of things that are different from what we are used to, whether in terms of appearance, language, clothing, behavior, whatever. If the norm at a young age is to mix with people from different races in all aspects of life (school, family, friendships, play, authority) I don't think there would be such a problem. But social differences make this difficult to achieve. You may go to school with people of a different race, but perhaps you don't get to visit their homes because they live in a different part of town.

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H. Fear of Black Power

Many whites who directly benefit from the current plight of Black people fear that their enlightenment and subsequent organizing will result in the inability to exploit and benefit from their resources, as well as a reclaiming of their historic legacy.(elite whites, politicians, FOX, private prisons, entertainment, sports owners, white farmers)

And religious leaders!

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would a “diverse” NBA team be stronger than one that simply has the best players regardless of color? Even if that meant every player was of the same color?

Exatly. I'm thinking the same thing with figure skating. All those Asian woman winning medals and should be really upset that they don't allow fat white chicks in figure skating. Both the NBA and figure skating are extremely racist sports.

White liberals are the worst racists there are. 

Trump voters think slavery was good for black people. They also think the civil war had nothing to do with slavery.

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would a “diverse” NBA team be stronger than one that simply has the best players regardless of color? 

Hmm. Why would one bring up basketball when the subject is racism and discrimination?

But to answer your question: No. Let the whites and blacks and Asians and Hispanics battle it out - but don't kneecap any of them from birth and pretend it's fair.

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I find this very unlikely, simply because there is no clear way to define racial distinctions.

I use the shorthand of racism for simplicity, some people call it tribalism, others call it in-group preference, and you've described it as social norms, but ultimately I think these are all describing the same phenomenon; how a person perceives and deals with others differently based on real or perceived group differences. So claiming that definitions of race are arbitrary and imprecise (and therefore race is entirely a social construct) doesn't really explain much or discredit the idea that the phenomenon (whatever you call it) might contain a biological element. But I agree with you that much of it will be shaped by social interaction. We seem to see this in the different attitudes to race between rural and urban populations.

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Disagree. Humans must eventually get over tribalism if we're going to survive as a species - and continued segregation simply aggravates prejudices.

I lived in a "diversified" neighborhood in Los Angeles, California back in 1970s where there existed Blacks, Latinos, Asians and Whites. There were (and still exists) a great deal of racial conflicts. Youth gang membership is exclusively segregated along racial lines. As long as they kept within their "segregated territories", there were no conflicts. The conflicts I witnessed were in the school system where integration was imposed. The integration openly exposed the prejudices and aggravated it, contrary to your views.

I've had conversations with some of the more militant blacks and they were surprised I (as an "ofay") agreed with Malcolm X and Stokely Carmichael views on the racial segregation and their solution to the racial problem.

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When did the media cover it? I’m sorry with all the mental TDS hysteria going on, I’m floored that they actually did report on that. Huh, didn’t realize. There is hope for these people after all.

This is a huge part of the problem. Conservatives are tied to their bubble and don't venture out. This leads to false statements about what people on the left say and believe.

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@M3M3M3

I use the shorthand of racism for simplicity, some people call it tribalism, others call it in-group preference, and you've described it as social norms, but ultimately I think these are all describing the same phenomenon; how a person perceives and deals with others differently based on real or perceived group differences.

They are not the same. Racism tends to hinder people from getting employment, proper education, and causes insecurity and problems for those of a certain race because they are looked upon as inferior. It is an excuse to keep one racial group in power. Racism tends to judge people by their race and stops all their rights because they are not of a “chosen” race. It is individually done and the most common is among the Americans and the Black Americans.

Tribalism does not hinder a person from getting employment and it does not undermine another who is from a different tribe unless the tribe it threatened.

Sociologists have studied the bond of tribalism, and they understand that these people stand for cultural belief while racism simply stands for hatred of those who are different from the common race in a place such as the US.

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I use the shorthand of racism for simplicity, some people call it tribalism, others call it in-group preference.

Sometimes, they can both exist at the same time, for example, Israel. They are tribal against the Palestinians and other Arab nations, but they are racist against Black Jews from East Africa (one of the original 13 tribes). Most Israelis are descended from European converts. In addition to the direct violence against Blacks in Israel, they were caught sterilizing Black mothers. Some government officials have suggested that they must stop them before they change the society. It isn't tribal because they have a culture similar enough to create bonds. That is why they are allowed in the country. There is a strict vetting process to allow foreign Jews to live in Israel. They obviously met the religious requirements to be admitted. For the Blacks in Israel, it is racism by the government and people as a whole. The irony is that the Israeli government are using the same tactics against Blacks and Palestinians used against them by the Germans which they don't want you to ever forget.

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@ Halwick

(By the way, its interesting to read here that the consensus is that the whites have a monopoly on innate racism. Malcolm X and Stokely Carmichael are (were) blacks and their views reflected the same bigotry, racism and hatred toward the whites.)

Definitely. A lot of contemporary rap is filled with it but does it reflect the opinion of the majority of blacks?

Maybe Malcolm X and Carmichael were right after all. Separatism and a separate Black Nation would have been the better solution.

I lived in a "diversified" neighborhood in Los Angeles, California back in 1970s where there existed Blacks, Latinos, Asians and Whites. There were (and still exists) a great deal of racial conflicts. Youth gang membership is exclusively segregated along racial lines. As long as they kept within their "segregated territories", there were no conflicts. The conflicts I witnessed were in the school system where integration was imposed. The integration openly exposed the prejudices and aggravated it, contrary to your views.

I've had conversations with some of the more militant blacks and they were surprised I (as an "ofay") agreed with Malcolm X and Stokely Carmichael views on the racial segregation and their solution to the racial problem.

Interesting that you're an advocate of segregation. In Europe we see the US of A [often] as a

foreland on certain social issues and segregation in brand new 'hoods' in my home country is taking place rapidly although many still see it as segregation based on income levels as the neighbourhoods have predominantly hi-end housing.

I wonder if there are stats with the opinion of your compatriots on segregation. I'm not known by any in EU countries but I still believe that despite the segregation on going in neighbourhoods and schools the majority of whites wouldn't back it yet.

Another policy in my home city, what I see in Germany too, is mixing up low income neighbourhoods by building apartments and houses for higher incomes into it instead of old school gentrification by shoving the former social groups to the outskirts. What you see is that new 'hipster' cafe's, restaurants and shops are developed along with the old establishments but that the public mixes up till a certain extend.

Interesting times ahead.

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Super: "Everyone knows Trump is racist."

Wrong. Trump is not racist, you are, however, misinformed.

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@Halwick

(By the way, its interesting to read here that the consensus is that the whites have a monopoly on innate racism. Malcolm X and Stokely Carmichael are (were) blacks and their views reflected the same bigotry, racism and hatred toward the whites.)

If you read my previous post then you would understand that 1) Racism isn't innate. 2) Malcolm and the others were not preaching racism they were preaching tribalism. So, like in America, whites in most western countries do have a monopoly on racism. China pushes tribalism! Russia pushes both! (mostly tribalism) Israel both!(whichever is most convenient) Japan pushes tribalism! US pushes both!(mostly racism)

It wasn't racism because racism is an illogical train of thought giving the racist a sense of authority based on a false sense of superiority. People like Malcolm X and the others who were called racist by the uninformed were directly attacking the logic in the average racists reasoning. It is no different than the debate today in the US.

Just like the people fighting for equality today, these two men were not pushing for the eradication of all whites in the country, they were not trying to deny whites jobs, education, and housing. What they wanted was to create a place free from the racism in the country. Because every time Blacks attempted to be successful as group, whites used racism as an excuse to destroy or steal everything being accomplished with 261 years of slavery, 100 years of Jim Crow, and 54 years of veiled racism. (ex. Black Wallstreet, patents, inventions, discoveries, accomplishments, culture)

They thought the best way to end the terrorism was to segregate like the Native Americans or a commonwealth.

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The article is clearly orchestrated to sway voters for the coming elections to vote democrat.

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Both sides use the race issue. Trump will use the NFL kneeling issue and the issue of patriotism to energize his base and the Dems will whip up the rhetoric and beat it blue to paint the President as a racist to energize their base.

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Both sides use the race issue. Trump will use the NFL kneeling issue and the issue of patriotism to energize his base and the Dems will whip up the rhetoric and beat it blue to paint the President as a racist to energize their base.

Lol! Being a racist bigot and calling someone out for being a racist bigot is not the same issue. One is a problem and the other one isn't.

Tedious? We know that's not it! :)

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to energize his base

Trump also says the N-word to energize his KKK David Duke Dylan Roof Bundies base.

Dems will whip up the rhetoric

What? Obamacare? That's gone because healthcare costs are soaring again.

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So when exactly did trump say the “n word” and where can I hear this?

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Lol! Being a racist bigot and calling someone out for being a racist bigot is not the same issue.

That would depend if the alleged person(s) are indeed racist. Funny, the left blatantly calls out so called racists on the right, but refuse to call out any racists on their side.

One is a problem and the other one isn't. 

You mean, liberals are the problem, I would tend to agree.

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@Silvafan

I agree with you based on the definitions you've provided. The definition of racism that you've given is basically the classic definition which involves a sense of racial superiority or hate of another race. However, these days that classic definition is rarely applied. I'm using the much broader and modern definition of racism which doesn't rely on a sense of superiority or hate. This looser definition seems to overlap with your definition of tribalism though.

For example, if a white hiring manager is motivated by a love of European people and hires only white job applicants before considering anyone else, most people today would call this racism even if it can be shown that he feels no animosity or sense of superiority to other races and only wants to ensure the well-being of whites. Would you consider this racism or tribalism?

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@M3M3M3

That is tribalism because if that same applicant would show that they too have a love for European culture with a lot of common beliefs they could still possibly get the job.

That isn't racism, but tribalism can also be problem. That broader definition that you are talking about is problem. It isn't correct because a large number of people are using it that way.

That is equivalent to a lot people believing something is true, so it must true.

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@bass4funk

That would depend if the alleged person(s) are indeed racist. Funny, the left blatantly calls out so called racists on the right, but refuse to call out any racists on their side.

Nice try changing the narrative again. The story is Dump. Strawman argument much?

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The article is clearly orchestrated to sway voters for the coming elections to vote democrat.

Lots of folks living in Japan planning to vote Democrat because of a JT article? Consider me swayed!

To be frank, racism will exist no matter which of the two parties get in. The only difference here is that bigotry has been given a voice, it's much bolder and more open than before. Despite being out in that there open, it's made some people blind to the racism that has been unleashed. Or at the very least, people are making excuses for it now.

Just wait until recordings of the arch-bigot are heard. People will still make excuses for the word. They'll ask why African-Americans can use it. Completely ignoring history and context.

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So when exactly did trump say the “n word” and where can I hear this?

The US President keeps a tanning bed in the White House to maintain his very distinctive hue, according to a former member of his staff.

(news source)

There is your proof

Wait, that's not the right news quote here it is:

Manigault Newman also claims Trump repeatedly uses the racially offensive N-word, including on an occasion when he was taped, and has threatened to reveal the names of illegitimate children he has allegedly fathered.

There is your real proof. But who cares, having a tanning bed and saying the N-word is not illegal. President Hillary did a lot worse with PizzaGate and she hasn't been arrested.

Proof Trump is racist. But being racist is not a crime, just like Trump's golden showers in Russia. Why make a big deal about it Trump followers. Just keep talking about how high the stock market is and Trump's hot wife and stick to that arguments. It's the economy stupid

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You mean, liberals are the problem, I would tend to agree.

Not that they have anything to do with Trump's racism, mind. The problem with liberals is they're... liberal. They need to be more radical, if anything. Not just sitting on the fence.

For years, Trump promoted the lie that President Barack Obama was born in Kenya. Over the past year, from his perch in the White House, he's repeatedly questioned the intelligence of prominent black figures, including Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., basketball star LeBron James and CNN anchor Don Lemon, whom he called "the dumbest man on television."

Tip of the iceberg. The man is shameless and his pathetic tweets may well fire up his white nationalist fan base, but at what cost?

The very soul of America. That'll take some healing after he's gone.

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That is tribalism because if that same applicant would show that they too have a love for European culture with a lot of common beliefs they could still possibly get the job. 

Which is another word for “racism” now is racism a bad thing? That depends on your outlook of the issue. If you are black and want to hang out, date, marry and have children with someone of the same race, does that make you a racist? You are rejecting other races, you love and want to be with your and no one else, so that would be a form of racism, selective racism to be exact. But the interesting thing is if blacks do this, it’s a strong sense of racial pride, if a white person does the exact same thing, then it is considered racist, astounding.

That isn't racism, but tribalism can also be problem.

https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/opinion/Why-tribalism-and-racism-are-just-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/440808-4697752-haikvi/index.html

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now is racism a bad thing?

Nothing illegal. We have established Trump is racist. But this racist president is making record gains in the stock market and Trump is also saving unborn fetuses. What is the problem? The Jesus evangelicals approve of this racist president. Being racist is not illegal like what Hillary did with PizzaGate. Just focus on the fact that Trump has a hot wife and the stock market is rocking!! Trump calls black people the N-word, again, nothing illegal.

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So in other words he didn’t say the n word and there is no place that I can hear any audio of him saying it. You couid have simply said that.

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Not that they have anything to do with Trump's racism, mind. The problem with liberals is they're... liberal. They need to be more radical, if anything. Not just sitting on the fence.

I want them to be more radical as well, lessons their chances on power and elections.

Tip of the iceberg. The man is shameless and his pathetic tweets may well fire up his white nationalist fan base, but at what cost?

The very soul of America. That'll take some healing after he's gone.

Here is the kicker, there are thousands of minorities that support this President, the racist argument is not helping anyone except the left. The racial divide started in 2008 and has been a contentious issue ever since.

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the liberal racism narratives are nonsense. They don’t complain about an entire team of players being black because those are the “best” players. But let there be an all white office because they are also the best at their job, liberals go nuts.gotta have diversity they scream.

its either merit based or it’s not. You can’t have it one way in a situation with all minorities being ok but then all “white people” is bad.

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So in other words he didn’t say the n word and there is no place that I can hear any audio of him saying it. You couid have simply said that.

But when the recordings do surface, you'll condemn him, right?

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So in other words he didn’t say the n word and there is no place that I can hear any audio of him saying it. You couid have simply said that.

Why are you even bringing it up, nowadays certifiable or verifiable proof is not needed, the only thing that matters is accusatory statements, a belief and prejudging someone is all the proof you need to attack someone.

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They don’t complain about an entire team of players being black because those are the “best” players.

Yes, just like champion figure skaters are often cute Asian chicks instead of fat white chicks. I want to see more figure skaters who are fat white chicks. Figure skating is racist and fat shaming. Trump also said the N-word, but it is perfectly legal. Look at how President Hillary has never been arrested for her PizzaGate. Old men who like Trump just love to talk about how hot Trump's wife is.

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They don’t complain about an entire team of players being black because those are the “best” players. But let there be an all white office because they are also the best at their job

I've never worked in an all white office - how does that operate? Is it an American thing?

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But when the recordings do surface, you'll condemn him, right?

There won’t be, if there were we would have already known about it. If Omarosa had them, really had them, but she doesn’t.

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There won’t be

They exist just like the Golden shower tapes. But why care. The stock market is up and Trump has a very hot wife. Focus on the stock market. Saying the N-word is not a crime.

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The racial divide started in 2008 and has been a contentious issue ever since.

Really? Please tell us what Bush did during the last year of his presidency to start "the racial divide." How about giving us a specific date or incident to support your assertion.

Of course, we all know what you're trying to do here, Bass--that is blame President Obama, who didn't take office until 2009. Then again, that doesn't matter because you have been asked repeatedly to provide actual of examples of Obama saying clear-cut examples of racism (not imagined but actual quotations, video, or audio of him making racial statements--and no, I don't want Op-ed pieces from right-wing media sites or user-made Youtube videos because opinions are not facts). In order to help you with this, the current member of the Oval Office has provided us with plenty of examples--from denying people housing based on the color of their skin (see Trump's 1973 settlement) to labeling certain people "rapists" and "criminals" so that a wall has to be built to keep them out (and spare us the "Oh, he was talking about MS-13" excuse because he wasn't and never made any references to them during or after his speech).

The fact is, the "racial divide" has been prevalent in America since its founding. Trying to pin it one one specific president shows either a lack of historical knowledge or a blatant partisan attempt at trying to score cheap political points based on falsehoods.

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@nishikat: Trump calls black people the N-word

You keep writing that Trump used the n-word but I haven’t seen or heard the proof. It is certainly possible. I would suppose that the vast majority of adult Americans have uttered the word out loud for some reason or other. Maybe even you?

Of course anytime someone uses an epithet the context of its’ use matters greatly. It is very likely that both Trump and Obama have uttered the word at least once in their lifetimes. Both have likely used words like cracker and redneck as well. Does that prove that either is a racist? No it doesn’t.

Obama has been pals with a black nationalist preacher and considered him his mentor. You can’t overlook this racist association. Just as I see Obama’s photo with Farrakhan evidence of his racism. If there is a picture produced of Trump meeting with a white nationalist leader such as David Duke I would consider that evidence of racism.

http://www.phillytrib.com/news/hidden-photo-of-obama-and-farrakhan-released-in-new-book/article_0b95a0d4-05fe-5b90-b9c7-23206514acea.html

Making a claim that Trump said the n-word is not based on any publicly available evidence and is not proof of anything nefarious. But I am waiting for the evidence to be produced.

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Of course, we all know what you're trying to do here, Bass--that is blame President Obama, who didn't take office until 2009.

There were primaries before that.

Then again, that doesn't matter because you have been asked repeatedly to provide actual of examples of Obama

Not the man, his policies were.

The fact is, the "racial divide" has been prevalent in America since its founding.

But it intensified over the last 8 years.

Trying to pin it one one specific president shows either a lack of historical knowledge or a blatant partisan attempt at trying to score cheap political points based on falsehoods.

Not at all, I’m just saying that the left have zero room to talk, so they need to keep the race issue alive, that is why they keep going back to Charlottesville, it’s the ONLY ace in the hole they have.

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Is Trump a racist?

What is undeniable is that he has given racist groups publicity. Why would he do that?

If he isn’t a racist, he certainly knows what they like.

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@bass4funk

Which is another word for “racism” now is racism a bad thing? That depends on your outlook of the issue. If you are black and want to hang out, date, marry and have children with someone of the same race, does that make you a racist? You are rejecting other races, you love and want to be with your and no one else, so that would be a form of racism, selective racism to be exact. But the interesting thing is if blacks do this, it’s a strong sense of racial pride, if a white person does the exact same thing, then it is considered racist, astounding.

Nope! That is tribalism because if they met someone of a different race they might still marry them. They might hesitate because they will be concerned about culture differences or complications they might face with family or society. There are tons of whites who want to date black men or men of different races, they do it secretly, but they hesitate in public because they're circle of relationships might not like it. (refer to F above)

Who said if whites do it then it is automatic racism? Strawman argument much? If they don't want to marry another race because negative stereotypes they have about that race then it is racism. (refer to A,C,D,E above)

https://www.nation.co.ke/oped/opinion/Why-tribalism-and-racism-are-just-two-sides-of-the-same-coin/440808-4697752-haikvi/index.html

The article doesn't do a good job of arguing that they are both same. They affects are similar when tribalism is used in a negative way. However, I can be part of tribe and not be the same race. (ie. gun enthusiast, religion, political views, hobbies, and experiences)

This is why got so many people screaming racism because most people don't really understand it. One side is using it too broadly, and the other side is showing moral blindness because they don't want to own up to their behavior.

LOL!

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There were primaries before that.

So, where is the evidence? Let's hear a quotation from a speech that he made during one of the primaries. How about something that he wrote? Remember, you made the accusation, so now you have to back it up with facts.

Not the man, his policies were.

Specifics, please.

But it intensified over the last 8 years.

Yes, but not as a result of anything that Obama did. I've said this before, but it is worth repeating: Yes, racism did rear its ugly head during Obama's time in office, but that had more to deal with the people who couldn't stand the fact that a half-white and half-black man was their president.

Not at all, I’m just saying that the left have zero room to talk, so they need to keep the race issue alive, that is why they keep going back to Charlottesville, it’s the ONLY ace in the hole they have.

Nope, but keep thinking that. We'll see just how correct you are after the elections in November.

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@Silvafan

Thank for the reply. I agree with you entirely, particularly with the problems that can arise. The changing terms do seem to be a bit of an issue when discussing this topic, so thanks for being clear with your definitions.

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People said” doesn’t mean anything. A tape is a physical item that can be seen, held, played and heard by my own ears.

The president of the US doesn’t care if tapes exist or not.

Remember his tweet instructing his followers to find a non-existent sex tape when he was having a cat fight with a beauty queen?

I just don’t think decent people should be behaving by presidential standards. You seem to agree with this.

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So, where is the evidence?

The economy, race relations.

Yes, but not as a result of anything that Obama did.

Actually, everything he didn’t do, which was a lot.

We'll see just how correct you are after the elections in November.

Yes, the Dems won’t definitely get the Senate, so that’s a huge buffer plus.

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The economy

Right, so then what's the big deal of Trump saying the N-word. The economy and stock market are up. And old white Trump supports just love to rave about Trump's "hot" wife.

You made the statement the tape exists

Yes, and they won't change anything. The Jesus evangelical people won't care since they chose Trump to save the unborn fetuses.

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The economy, race relations.

Are you talking about the economy now or back in 2008? Same with race relations. What things happened during the primaries in 2008 to touch off "the racial divide"? Remember, I asked you for examples from that particular time period since you made the accusation. Perhaps you are confused?

Actually, everything he didn’t do, which was a lot.

So, this statement is an example of giving specifics. Nice dodge. Just admit that you have nothing and move on.

Yes, the Dems won’t definitely get the Senate, so that’s a huge buffer plus.

If anything has taught us about recent elections in America, nothing is guaranteed. There is a strong possibility that the Democrats could take both the House and the Senate, or they could get neither. Brazenly making predictions about the upcoming election is just setting yourself up for disappointment, humiliation, or both (and no, I am not making any predictions here).

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Nope! That is tribalism because if they met someone of a different race they might still marry them.

That is mostly the exception, not the rule.

Who said if whites do it then it is automatic racism? Strawman argument much?

Just the facts, nothing more.

The article doesn't do a good job of arguing that they are both same.

Actually, it does very well, it just depends on what you want to see, I vehemently disagree and think racism and tribalism are literally almost the same thing.

This is why got so many people screaming racism because most people don't really understand it.

This is true and yet in this case both sides use it to their political advantage.

One side is using it too broadly, and the other side is showing moral blindness because they don't want to own up to their behavior.

I’ll meet you halfway on that one.

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What do you call a public servant who doesn't take crap from Republicans or Democrats?

Donald Trump.

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The riots in Charlottesville a year ago resulted in senseless death and division. We must come together as a nation. I condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. Peace to ALL Americans!"

More double talk from Benedict Dotard. 'Come together as a nation'? Certainly not 'under God' because Trumpturd thinks HE'S a god himself. 'Come together, right now. UNDER me' - THAT'S his notion.

Now he says he condemns all racism and violence - THIS from the same brute who spoke of shooting and beating those who oppose him, and who stirs up fear amongst his NRA supporters at a rally. And he rants about Hispanics being rapists, thieves and such and he kidnaps their children, placing them in concentration camps. That's racism, folks.  

Then he says 'Peace to ALL Americans!' Who's an "American" to HIM? His friends? White people? He ain't fooling me with that rhetoric crap. He's trying to 'save face' with this double talk but it is just that. His actions and what comes  from his motormouth do not reflect that he is telling the truth one iota.

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This is sickening.  I personally don't like racism or tribalism.  I can comprehend the motivations of tribalism more, and see that it is a lot easier to overcome than people who choose to be racist or believe in ethnic "superiority".

@Silvafan So far you've put up the most perceptive posts imo.  Too many others here are attempting to spout excuses for why racism (subtle or not) should be "acceptable"  and "tolerated" in modern western society.  Being from a mixed family, and dating outside my ethnicity I'd rather live in a society that does not tell me how I should live my life because of my ethnic birth.   I already know I have an ethnic "cultural heritage", but I choose not to dwell on it as if it leads my personality.

If a Caucasian couple adopts a child from India, that child's personality and behaviour will be tied to the societal culture of the adoptive parents depending on where and how they raise them.  If a couple from China adopt a child from an African nation, that child will also have a personality based on the how those parents raise them and the environment they live in.

If I'm gonna be identified as any kind of "supremacist" I'd rather be indentified as a human supremacist... although if we run into any extraterrestrial life, that will cause this situation all over again (poor humor attempt.)

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Ironic/funny/strange that these white supremacy scumbags are standing on steps chalked up with messages of 'PEACE' and 'LOVE' because they sure don't believe in any of those things!

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Obama has been pals with a black nationalist preacher and considered him his mentor. You can’t overlook this racist association. 

Actually, you can since Obama both condemned and distanced himself from Pastor Jeremiah Wright's remarks in his "A More Perfect Union" speech at the National Constitution Center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 2008. Obama condemned the remarks made by the pastor, but perhaps you think he that since he placed them in historical context by describing some of the key events that may have formed Wright's views on race-related matters in America that he somehow was influenced or endorsed them, which he didn't.  Let's be clear here: he didn't agree with them, so I don't see this as any evidence of racism or inspired racism.

Now, maybe since Obama didn't disown Mr. Wright, that should be evidence enough in your eyes, but think of how many times friends or family members say dumb things or things you don't agree with. Do you disown them? Are you guilty of endorsing what they say simply by association even though you speak out against them?

Just as I see Obama’s photo with Farrakhan evidence of his racism. 

So, let me get this straight. If someone takes a photo with someone else, they are automatically part of that person's social, political, and mental psyche and endorse everything that that person embodies? In other words, since Trump took a picture with Kim Jong Un, does that now make him a communist sympathizer? If so, then that would require a stretch that not even Mr. Fantastic from The Fantastic Four could pull off.

If there is a picture produced of Trump meeting with a white nationalist leader such as David Duke I would consider that evidence of racism.

I wouldn't. Just because a public figure takes a picture with another does not necessarily mean that there is some kind of relationship or guilt by association leap of logic.

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@bass4funk

The picture above is the perfect example of tribalism and racism. The three men on the right are close because they have the same political views that people should be treated equally regardless of their skin. Notice there are two Blacks and one white. Any race of people with the same views can join this group. People can form tribes through an infinite number of ways. Tribalism can be used directly to help those not in the tribe.

And on the other side, there is a group of people all of the same race who think people of other races are inferior, so they should be killed, enslaved, or expelled. People of different races can't join this group as an equal. Racists form groups based one common bond. Racists form groups to only help themselves within the group. Racists only blame other's outside their group for their problems. A racist's solution is always to take something away from the other offending group.

Tedious? We know that's not it! :)

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Trumpturd thinks HE'S a god himself.

Judging the way the Democrats and their wingmen media are acting you would think they created the very heavens.

Now he says he condemns all racism and violence - THIS from the same brute who spoke of shooting and beating those who oppose him,

A crazy liberal tried to murder Senator Scalise a year ago and almost succeeded, you had Kathy Griffin holding a severed mock bloody head of the President, you had Peter Fonda tweet that Barron Trump and his mother should be kidnapped, you have WH staff that can't even go out and eat with their families or even watch a movie with the protection of the secret service for deep safety concerns, you have members of the Trump family that have received envelopes of white powder in them, fake, but still scary. The left can't say a thing about violence, the left are the very instigators of violence.

and who stirs up fear amongst his NRA supporters at a rally.

Yes and the left do the same with Charlottesville. Both parties use race to galvanize their base.

And he rants about Hispanics being rapists, thieves and such and he kidnaps their children, placing them in concentration camps. That's racism, folks. 

So what would you call MS-13? What do they do? Are we not allowed to have a secure border and to protect our sovereignty? The last admin deported more people and separated children as well, so what's the problem. A Democrat President can do it, but a Republican President can't?

Then he says 'Peace to ALL Americans!' Who's an "American" to HIM? His friends? White people?

You can flip that statement around.

He ain't fooling me with that rhetoric crap. He's trying to 'save face' with this double talk but it is just that. His actions and what comes from his motormouth do not reflect that he is telling the truth one iota.

Well, the left ain't fooling anyone and their tactics using the race care and playing the victim isn't going to help them with anything. The only thing they care about is holding on to power, now what to do with that power is anyone's guess.

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If a Caucasian couple adopts a child from India, that child's personality and behaviour will be tied to the societal culture of the adoptive parents depending on where and how they raise them. If a couple from China adopt a child from an African nation, that child will also have a personality based on the how those parents raise them and the environment they live in.

You might also be interested in reading about the various Minnesota twin studies which looked at identical twins separated at birth and raised in different households. These studies consistently found that the twins (who had never met) were just as likely to share personality traits, behavioural traits, personal interests, educational attainment, and general life outcomes as twins who had been raised together in the same household. The point being that genetics play a role (and perhaps a dominant one) along with the environment in determining who we eventually become.

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Tribalism can be used directly to help those not in the tribe.

Or denounce people from becoming part of the tribe including: the color of skin or race. Look, let's just agree to disagree, you won't convince me and I won't convince you. I believe both are essentially the same and you don't.

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A crazy liberal tried to murder Senator Scalise a year ago

That's on the Republicans and the NRA. Now Scalise has to poop in a bag for the rest of his life since the AR bullets ripped up his intestines.

Obama was never held to account for his racist associations

Who cares about any racism when Obama faked his degree and tapped Trump's phones. Trump followers don't care that Trump uses the N-word so why should anyone care about how racist Obama is? And there is Hillary making childporn with PizzaGate. With that who cares about addressing racism when Hillary is exploiting little children by making them child porn victims?

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