Trump warns that migrants who throw stones at U.S. military may be shot

"We're not going to put up with that. They want to throw rocks at our military, our military fights back,"

Atta’ boy Mr. President! Loved how Mattis slammed that mainstream reporter saying, “we don’t do stunts.”

The nerve of those immigrants in caravan. Throwing rocks at Mexican Police? Yeah, try that on our military. The blood will be on the invaders’ hands. Not the Administration.

He really is overplaying it now.

There is widespread support for a strong, enforceable border and that people are made to follow the rules. And that those that don't are deported and/or rejected.

When you start talking about shooting people for throwing a few rocks, you are playing into the hands of the opposition and encouraging people that believe in open borders.

Trump doesn't know when to hold fire. If only he knew how to moderate himself he would be more successful with the center, which is where the vast majority of the American public reside.

Turning into quite the little authoritarian dictator......

Wc

Actually, the blood will be on the administrations hands..... The orange one gave the order to shoot.

Turning into quite the little authoritarian dictator......

Dictator? He is not talking about shooting Americans.

He is literally advocating shooting immigrants at the border now. And seeming to relish in it.

For those keeping score, Weblio defines "unhinged" as such:

狂気または精神異常により影響を受ける

(affected with madness or insanity)

This is not a caravan, it's an invasion force. Mexico offered them help and a job and they refused. The Democrats are angry we're sending troops to the border. At least we're not sending illegals to their mansions.

I agree with Trump on very, very few issues but the one issue I agree there is a problem is immigration. HOWEVER, I did not agree with the words Trump chose to address this issue and now I am completely baffled that a President of the United States would actually threaten to shoot illegal immigrants for throwing stones.

This is insane.

If the Commander in Chief gave such an order this would be an order I would proudly disobey as this is absolutely nuts.

I feel sorry for the American servicemen to have such a Commander-in-Chief. What are they gonna do when they finally meet those poor, tired, and confused mothers and children and men without any weapons. Shoot?

@Socrateos - This would put those in service in a difficult position however in the end the decision is easy. Let me provide background. My opinion (strongly) is this is the WORST thing that Trump has said since he has taken office.

OATH OF SERVICE

"I, _____, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

GENEVA CONVENTION

However, if a member of the service follows this order they would be in violation of Rule 47 of the Geneva Convention (which even an old man like may out of Government Service for decades knows about). The proper conduct of a service man or woman in this case would be to disobey the President's unlawful order based on the U.S. military handbooks and the rules related to shooting unarmed non combatants.

US MILITARY CODES OF CONDUCT AS IT RELATES TO GENEVA CONVENTION

United States of America

The US Air Force Pamphlet (1976) states: “The law of armed conflicts clearly forbids the killing or wounding of an enemy who … is … hors de combat.”

The Pamphlet goes on to say: “In addition to the grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions of 1949, the following acts are representative of situations involving individual criminal responsibility: … deliberate refusal of quarter.”

United States of America

The US Naval Handbook (1995) provides: “The following acts are representative war crimes: … denial of quarter (i.e., killing or wounding an enemy hors de combat …).”

United States of America

The US Naval Handbook (2007) states that examples of war crimes that could be considered as grave breaches of the 1949 Geneva Conventions include: “Denial of quarter (i.e., killing or wounding an enemy unable to fight due to sickness or wounds or one who is making a genuine offer of surrender).”

United States of America

The US Manual for Military Commissions (2010), Part IV, Crimes and Elements, states: “The term ‘protected person’ means any person entitled to protection under one or more of the [1949] Geneva Conventions, including … military personnel placed out of combat by sickness, wounds, or detention

The best defense is always....

A good offense!

Good offense reduces the need to rely on defense!

Americans are so funny...

A few thousand people without weapons are coming by foot from thousands of miles away, and you would believe the Huns are back to attack the Roman empire again.

"What are they gonna do when they finally meet those poor, tired, and confused mothers and children and men without any weapons."

The vast majority of the invaders are young well-fed men, and stones are weapons that can kill.

"Mass uncontrolled immigration is especially unfair to the many wonderful law-abiding immigrants already living here who followed the rules and waited their turn,"

Finally, something useful said.

Immigrants come to border control points.

Invaders don't.

@Serrano - I believe they would still be in violation of the Geneva Convention if they fired on these illegal immigrants. The proper conduct would be to disobey this illegal order.

And people have a problem with this?! Good on President Trump!

The vast majority of the invaders are young well-fed men, and stones are weapons that can kill.

This is certainly worrisome, but don't worry, America, the rest of the world has your back at this time of your greatest peril.

Also take heart from the knowledge that the military strength of this caravan may turn out to be less serious than it currently seems. Pentagon sources have confirmed that a significant portion of the invasion force is in fact not so well fed and not so male. Also they have taken the wise precaution of removing all loose stones from along the US-Mexico border and replaced them with soft cushions. They hope that these developments will allow them to lower the threat level to DEFCON 3, which will allow Strategic Bomber Command to return most of its forces to a peace time footing and allow CINCPAC to recall its nuclear submarines to base.

Unarmed poor people vs fully armed US military? David vs Goliath scenario all over again...

Wonder what would happen if a flotilla of illegal immigrants threatened to enter Japan.....

What actions would this group accept / tolerate?!

If they started being violent towards Japanese law enforcement, what would the average Japanese expect them to do?!

Without laws and the rule of law, we devolve in anarchy...

If we are advocating that poor, needy people can migrate wherever they want, regardless of laws, it is pure anarchy and insanity!

Serrano

This is not a caravan, it's an invasion force.

Invasion forces typically have weapons. You know, the sort that America peddles every single day.

The Democrats are angry we're sending troops to the border.

No, they are angry with the use or intended use of excessive force.

At least we're not sending illegals to their mansions.

No, just work in a majority of them, repubs included.

The vast majority of the invaders are young well-fed men, and stones are weapons that can kill.

What do you think? Should the military shoot for the head? The legs?

Always ask yourself the question if you’d be prepared to do this.

This is unhinged stuff from Trump.

If we are advocating that poor, needy people can migrate wherever they want, regardless of laws, it is pure anarchy and insanity!

Actually at the moment in response to this article I think we are just advocating that they not be shot. This is not a useful or productive conversation to be having, but its where the scumbag in the White House has led us to.

There's no problems with this, if you attack a police officer in the street with rocks, you will be shot and killed, no one will bat an eyelid. Why would it be any different if you attacked a military checkpoint defending a nation's border?

There's no problems with this, if you attack a police officer in the street with rocks, you will be shot and killed, no one will bat an eyelid.

In almost no democratic society in the world is shooting and killing someone for throwing a rock considered a justifiable response by the police.

probably a bad idea to throw rocks at a country's military when trying to cross illegally... common sense...

@Dango - I agree with you. A very bad idea indeed. However, shooting these people (albeit they are illegal immigrants) would violate the Geneva Convention.

shooting these people (albeit they are illegal immigrants) would violate the Geneva Convention.

actually it would not. a foreign group unlawfully entering a country after being warned not to could be taken as an aggressive invasive force which can by the Geneva convention be dealt with by force as well. You are wrong.

The media asked Trump if he would use force and he responded by saying that they would consider using force, comparing rocks with deadly weapons. Nobody has been shot yet, so calm down and wipe the foam of your mouth. Anyway, these “migrants” are not exactly showing goodwill by throwing rocks at public servants. I’d say, arm the rifles with rock salt or pepper and blast anyone throwing stones at the border guard in the butt.

Could you imagine if a mob of foreigners throwing projectiles and trying to enter China, France, UK or Germany would be dealt with? Why does the US have to sit and watch our borders be violated by foreigners? Answer, we won't.

then again toting your child across borders illegally while you are breaking international law also goes against common sense and responsible parenthood. These people can apply for visas like other responsible people do. Like I did to live in Japan.

US border patrol agents already have blood on their hands shooting innocent people across the border in Mexico. One egregious example was a man sitting in a park(?) with his girlfriend who was hit and killed for no reason. Compensation from the US government? NADA!

Could you imagine if a mob of foreigners throwing projectiles and trying to enter China, France, UK or Germany would be dealt with?

The Chinese response would probably be tougher than the European countries you mentioned who would be outraged at the idea of shooting people who are throwing stones.

Shooting people is generally frowned upon in democratic countries.

Shooting people is generally frowned upon in democratic countries.

you mean like Guatemala and Honduras? Then maybe they should go back

If the Commander in Chief gave such an order this would be an order I would proudly disobey as this is absolutely nuts.

Commander in Chief? How about the Bigot in Chief or Bully in Chief?

Commander in Chief? How about the Bigot in Chief or Bully in Chief?

I do not see where this angry mob mentality comes from. Most world leaders put their own country first, it is not bigoted it is common sense. Besides, my 401K is up %72 since he took office and not allowing foreigners to enter illegally is not a controversial position in any sense.

Black and Hispanic employment are both up since he took office as well. Take a deep breath.

Dango

then again toting your child across borders illegally while you are breaking international law also goes against common sense and responsible parenthood.

Breaking international law? Any reasonable parent would do anything to give their child a better life.

These people can apply for visas like other responsible people do. Like I did to live in Japan.

Luckily for you, you had the means and the money to do so.

@Kaishu I worked two jobs and studied to get a scholarship. Honduras and Guatemala both have similar programs for people who are no too lazy to work hard.

Asking the US for handouts while breaking the law is not fair to LEGAL immigrants nor is it fair to citizens who pay taxes.

you can let them stay at your house if you are that sympathetic to their plight. Last time I checked there was no civil war or racial profiling going on in those countries.

@Dango

actually it would not. a foreign group unlawfully entering a country after being warned not to could be taken as an aggressive invasive force which can by the Geneva convention be dealt with by force as well. You are wrong.

The key is these people are considered non combatants by definition and are unarmed. I am correct on this and shooting them would be a violation of the Geneva Convention.

You and I probably agree on illegal immigration.

We completely disagree on this issue.

The vast majority of the invaders are young well-fed men, and stones are weapons that can kill.

What! You mean tell me that not only are they armed to the teeth with pebbles, they will also be launching their lithic offensive on a full stomach?

Well, let’s hope they get the message and don’t throw stones.

 I am correct on this and shooting them would be a violation of the Geneva Convention.

you are NOT correct, I recommend you read up on it

Asking the US for handouts while breaking the law is not fair to LEGAL immigrants nor is it fair to citizens who pay taxes.

Now if only liberals would understand this very detailed point.

"Asylum is not a program for those living in poverty. There are billions of people in the world living at the poverty level. The United States cannot possibly absorb them all. Asylum is a very specific protection based on those fleeing persecution."

That does not sound like a dictator or bigot to me.. Sounds like common sense.

This whole caravan thing is doing nothing but getting votes for the republicans 11/6. American citizens overwhelmingly agree with the President.

Dango and Bass

Asking for asylum and help is illegal? Unless the law has changed, I don't think so.

Is it too much to ask that illegal immigrants don’t throw rocks at our military, pretty simple request that should be easy to follow.

A better life? In “racist America”? With “orange dotard” Trump as President? Is this possible? Liberal Americans are “thinking of” moving to Canada due the subhuman conditions they are subjected to daily in the USA.

Breaking international law? Any reasonable parent would do anything to give their child a better life.

Is it too much to ask that illegal immigrants don’t throw rocks at our military, pretty simple request that should be easy to follow.

Is it too little to ask that the President not go around making gratuitous comments that serve no purpose other than to whip up hysteria? A small, unarmed gaggle of refugees is a thousand miles from your country, very few of which are likely to even reach your border and almost none have any chance of crossing it, yet you guys are literally acting like its World War 3.

Blacklable

A better life? In “racist America”? With “orange dotard” Trump as President? Is this possible? Liberal Americans are “thinking of” moving to Canada due the subhuman conditions they are subjected to daily in the USA.

Yeah well, that is debatable at the moment.

> “Keep, ancient lands, your storied pomp!” cries she

With silent lips. “Give me your tired, your poor,*

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,*

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.*

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,*

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!”*

Seems as though America has lost her way.

America's military arsenal now includes several weapons that repels invaders without using lethal force.

This is not a caravan, it's an invasion force. Mexico offered them help and a job and they refused. The Democrats are angry we're sending troops to the border. At least we're not sending illegals to their mansions.

Of course its an invasion force. Come on Liberals, didn't you see those armored personnel carriers those migrants were riding in, didn't you see the heavy weapons they carried? I guess you missed that 10 year old girl holding a bazooka...

Americans are so funny... A few thousand people without weapons are coming by foot from thousands of miles away, and you would believe the Huns are back to attack the Roman empire again.

Please don't generalize - 75% of Americans think this administration is a amateurish, chaotic, farce that is damaging not only our nation, but the entire world.

As someone with a little experience in Rules of Engagement/Rules on Use of Force (ROE/RUF), let me assure you that responding with lethal force to non-lethal force is a violation of US and International Law, to include the Uniform Code for Military Justice.

That point is really irrelevant though because the military are only performing support and logistical roles - they won't be armed and they won't be interfacing with the migrants - doing that would be a violation of US code too. 

These comments from Trump only prove two things;

 His untruthfulness and disgracefulness knows no bounds - there's no floor to how low he'll go...

 That some of his supporters here applaud the use of deadly force against women and children shows how sick they are...

America's military arsenal now includes several weapons that repels invaders without using lethal force.

The President is quoted in the article ordering troops to treat having rocks thrown at them the same way they treat coming under rifle fire. The army isn't trained to use non-lethal force when it comes under rifle fire.

Really small group just a few thousand

how do you think 11 million illegal immigrant got into the USA? In “small” groups or even 1 by 1.

Again, just don’t throw rocks and there will be no issue. Simple.

The vast majority of the invaders are young well-fed men, and stones are weapons that can kill.

If that's all it takes to topple the great USA, I would have gathered up a few friends and some rocks long ago. 

Just think of the plundering opportunities!

S

Asking for asylum and help is illegal?

They can ask, but we aren’t required to give it.

Please don't generalize - 75% of Americans think this administration is a amateurish, chaotic, farce that is damaging not only our nation, but the entire world.

I doubt that, if that were true, liberals would be over 20-25 points ahead in the midterms except now down to the wire and razor thin margins.

As someone with a little experience in Rules of Engagement/Rules on Use of Force (ROE/RUF), let me assure you that responding with lethal force to non-lethal force is a violation of US and International Law, to include the Uniform Code for Military Justice.

We shall see, totally different scenario and in the end, Trump can take this all the way to the SC. I’m sure his WH legal counsel and all the lawyers and constitutionalists are checking this out.

That point is really irrelevant though because the military are only performing support and logistical roles - they won't be armed and they won't be interfacing with the migrants - doing that would be a violation of US code too. 

Thank God for the armed border patrol.

 His untruthfulness and disgracefulness knows no bounds - there's no floor to how low he'll go...

Not as low as the Democrats. I’m wondering, how all those people just suddenly all at once decided to come to the States....hmmmmmm

That some of his supporters here applaud the use of deadly force against women and children shows how sick they are...

No, we support upholding the law and not breaking it, kids or No kids.

Wow. Conservatives are in overdrive spreading falsehoods, fear, and demonstrated that they don't know the meanings of words. It's too funny.

Really small group just a few thousand

Yes, about the same size as the average crowd at a minor league baseball game in a small sized city. As an "Invasion force" it is ludicrously small.

Please don't generalize - 75% of Americans think this administration is a amateurish, chaotic, farce that is damaging not only our nation, but the entire world.

I doubt that, if that were true, liberals would be over 20-25 points ahead in the midterms except now down to the wire and razor thin margins.

You mistake polls, those over voting age, and all Americans irrespective of age - this president has no more than 25% support from his fringe...

As someone with a little experience in Rules of Engagement/Rules on Use of Force (ROE/RUF), let me assure you that responding with lethal force to non-lethal force is a violation of US and International Law, to include the Uniform Code for Military Justice.

We shall see, totally different scenario and in the end, Trump can take this all the way to the SC. I’m sure his WH legal counsel and all the lawyers and constitutionalists are checking this out.

Sure - and a President with an ounce of sense would check it out with the lawyers before going on a twitter rant about it - come on, even you have to admit this is disingenuous - he just made the statement to motivate his hate-loving base.

That point is really irrelevant though because the military are only performing support and logistical roles - they won't be armed and they won't be interfacing with the migrants - doing that would be a violation of US code too. 

Thank God for the armed border patrol.

The why did Trump made this inane statement?

 His untruthfulness and disgracefulness knows no bounds - there's no floor to how low he'll go...

Not as low as the Democrats. I’m wondering, how all those people just suddenly all at once decided to come to the States....hmmmmmm

As I said Trump and his supporters know no bounds....

Perhaps by throwing stones they are showing that they aren't the type of people that are wanted in the USA. They say that beggars can't be choosers -----just because a person claims refugee status the intending host country is not obliged to take them. It's entirely up to the Government of the day.

Jesus christ Trump, chill out

“Actually, the blood will be on the administrations hands..... The orange one gave the order to shoot.”

Well hey Kaishu- be reasonable for a second. Can a stone cause substantial injuries? Darn right they can. Don’t rattle the hornets’ nest & won’t get stung.

If Americans went to Honduras & chucked stones at authorities, do you think they’ll just stand by?

Trump's rhetoric is always a problem but the issue at hand is not how he can't make a sentence without issues. The issue is if this caravan reaches the border of the USA and then throw rocks at those defenders of the USA, what will be the response by the USA. Any fool can see in the photographs of the caravans that the vast majority of the people in those caravans are men 15-35 year old as i can guess but not substantiate. Are these people going to contribute or just suck the resources paid for by Americans who cannot control where our tax money is spent.

"Those caught at the border will be held in tent camps or other facilities until they can be deported or have their requests approved, he said."

Wouldn't it be cheaper for taxpayers and more effective to get a resident psychiatrist in the White House who treats dementia in the elderly?  The old fool has clearly gone around the bend.

You mistake polls, those over voting age, and all Americans irrespective of age - this president has no more than 25% support from his fringe...

ROFL! Creative, I’ll give you guys that.

Sure - and a President with an ounce of sense would check it out with the lawyers before going on a twitter rant about it - come on, even you have to admit this is disingenuous - he just made the statement to motivate his hate-loving base.

Could be, perfectly legitimate, Democrats do the same thing, they lie to their base and or exaggerate the truth and their base lap it up, thousands of immigrants aren’t a threat, even though Mexico themselves said so, the Dems say otherwise, feeding their base, I get it.

Wouldn't it be cheaper for taxpayers and more effective to get a resident psychiatrist in the White House who treats dementia in the elderly?  The old fool has clearly gone around the bend.

What about the old Democrat fools, Pelosi ain’t no spring chicken....

What about democrats?! Dems do the same as repubs! That's creative! I have nothing of substance to add, so I'll just push falsehoods, obfuscate, and deflect. ROFL. Smh,

Well, if I threw a rock at the Mexican Police, they would either shoot and kill me or have me arrested and thrown in jail, and I would probably never come out alive.

make deal with Mexico establish US factories business parks communities in Mexico for these immigrants, like the Japanese have done in Irapuato central Mexico. 20 years ago it was all farmland now its Japanese automotive and other businesses.

If they want to come in they have to come in through the proper procedures. You can't just come into a country because you have a lot of people. America has its own sovreign right as to who it let's in and how.

Just think about this.  The President of the US is all but authorising his troops to shoot people who may throw stones.  Stones.  Not RPG's or suicide vests. Stones.  Sounds a lot to me like Israel where kids waving their hands in the air are assassinated.  And they have a wall BTW.  This is a sad and very dangerous period that the US in falling into.  Without trying to sound too dramatic this is how it began in Nazi Germany.  Find and demonise an enemy, scare the people and promise to solve the problem.  The US is no longer a shining beacon on the hill - that beacon has become a searchlight looking for people to kill.  I predict, and I do not think I am being extreme here, that under Trump the USA is going to turn into a totarilian, dictorial regime.

ROFL! Creative, I’ll give you guys that.

Not near as creative as "there are Middle Eastern terrorists in the caravan" or "Covefefe"

Sure - and a President with an ounce of sense would check it out with the lawyers before going on a twitter rant about it - come on, even you have to admit this is disingenuous - he just made the statement to motivate his hate-loving base.

Could be, perfectly legitimate, Democrats do the same thing, they lie to their base and or exaggerate the truth and their base lap it up, thousands of immigrants aren’t a threat, even though Mexico themselves said so, the Dems say otherwise, feeding their base, I get it.

I'm glad you admit this President lies to his supporters - how does that make you feel - the leader of the nation deliberately lying and misleading you, not to help the country, but merely to incite and inflame, and in many cases resulting in violence? I think I already know the answer but I'll ask anyway...

This whole "toss a rock" narrative is another ludicrous attempt by Trump to inflame - these migrants want to apply for legal asylum and entry in the US - tossing a rock at a border agent is not the best way to get that...

But let me ask - how do you feel about some Trump supporters here advocating lethal force if someone throws a small pebble at a border agent?

And by the way Mr Spurs President, a stone thrown towards a US soldier with armour and protective face gear is not quite the same as having a high calibre bullet ripping through your head and leaving your brains three meters behind you.

I'm glad you admit this President lies to his supporters - how does that make you feel - the leader of the nation deliberately lying and misleading you,

I never met a President or a world leader that didn’t lie, so basically, I feel nothing, it’s part of the game, I get it.

not to help the country, but merely to incite and inflame, and in many cases resulting in violence? I think I already know the answer but I'll ask anyway...

If we go by that then all Democrats need a one way ticket to Europe.

This whole "toss a rock" narrative is another ludicrous attempt by Trump to inflame - these migrants want to apply for legal asylum and entry in the US - tossing a rock at a border agent is not the best way to get that...

I want these people to come, legally. They should follow the rules and laws and just like everyone else.

But let me ask - how do you feel about some Trump supporters here advocating lethal force if someone throws a small pebble at a border agent?

If they start throwing rocks, getting forcefully physical, I think they should use reasonable force to contain and or stop any physical aggression that could harm the military or border patrol.

Trump is not making America Great Again - he is making it Evil.

If they start throwing rocks, getting forcefully physical, I think they should use reasonable force to contain and or stop any physical aggression that could harm the military or border patrol.

Evasive.

Trump supporters are worse than the left for silly evasions and laughable euphemisms.

Should they shoot them?

We need to do this correctly, if we are going to do it. I want carriers off Baja and in the Gulf of Mexico off southern Texas. The 1st Cav out of hood and the I Marine Exprditionsry Force from Pendleton.

We have to stop these less-than-human hordes from forming into herds and over-running our borders just to vote for democrats!

Who throws a rock at another person? I'll tell you: someone who cares nothing about killing or seriously injuring the person on the other end.

Ive been in a situation where the crowd started throwing rocks and believe me they are deadly weapons. If youre so isolated in the liberal ivory tower that you cant comprehend it, ask someine to throw one at you.

then you'll know.

Throwing stones is an invitation to getting shot.

"...Israel where kids waving their hands in the air are assassinated."

Thats just wilfull blindness to reality. Kids hurling rocks, molotov cocktails, and backed by Hamas snipers, more like it.

I stand with Israel and I stand with Presudent Trump in protecting the border from violent illegal immigrants.

And notice the leftys are not criticising or admonishing the rock throwers! Its the nobel caravanners rights it seems. 

Meanwhile that nasty border patrol and soldiers should just take it.

Astute analysis considering nobody is saying it.

Thats just wilfull blindness to reality. Kids hurling rocks, molotov cocktails, and backed by Hamas snipers, more like it.

Or, the representation of reality.

> I stand with Israel and I stand with Presudent Trump in protecting the border from violent illegal immigrants.

They aren't immigrants of any kind to the US because they aren't in the borders. They can't be documented or undocumented immigrants yet.

It's about being accurate, which our conservative friend's constantly demonstrate the inability to do.

Trump is not making America Great Again - he is making it Evil

Thinking about Pelosi possbily becoming the next House speaker... subtlety doesn’t come to mind....

Evasive

Democrats in a scaly nutshell.

We have to stop these less-than-human hordes from forming into herds and over-running our borders just to vote for democrats

Give it to liberals for thinking these people are less than human....smh.

I never met a President or a world leader that didn’t lie, so basically, I feel nothing, it’s part of the game, I get it.

Then I feel sorry for you - your expectations and goals for your President in terms of truthfulness and integrity are very low. How could you ask your son or daughter to look up to and admire a proven liar?

not to help the country, but merely to incite and inflame, and in many cases resulting in violence? I think I already know the answer but I'll ask anyway...

If we go by that then all Democrats need a one way ticket to Europe.

..and all the Republicans can take a one-way flight to Russia - GOP = Guardians of Putin...

I want these people to come, legally. They should follow the rules and laws and just like everyone else.

Well, I assume you've read the comments from 90% of those that identify as Liberal who say the same thing...

If they start throwing rocks, getting forcefully physical, I think they should use reasonable force to contain and or stop any physical aggression that could harm the military or border patrol.

Non-responsive to the question - what do you think of some Trump supporters here who advocate deadly force against women and children?

Lmao! Conservatives don't have the intellectual capacity to understand when they are being mocked.

Har! Pelosi! Oh my . . . Liberals. Smh. ROFL.

And Dango Bango, your 401 might be up for now but you better check the news there buddy boy!

Trump wants to shoot children for throwing pebbles at the soldiers. He is a cruel old orange man.

ROFLMAO at you America!

Go ahead; become that country that executes people at its borders while blindly following an orange clown!!

I mentioned this before in another post. And... as predicted, the issue has come up.

OK, so let's look at the situation between Israel and Palestine.. same thing happens there, any Parallels to draw upon ?

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What's going on, in the South American Countries, is totally unacceptable. Starvation, Deprivation, etc. The Political mismanagement of some Countries there, is like listening some someone scratch their fingers down a chalk board.... something needs to be done to address the problem at source in order to prevent the social instability of the region - as we are starting to see at present.

How is the "Caravan" of people, from the Southern American Countries, different from those trying to get into Europe ?

Saldy, under current times, this issue will not go away. We are facing a time, when there are too many people here upon the Planet, for the resources that exist to support, the end-game result will be a culling of our own doing.

The Pentagon already rejected the President's suggestion

The military will function as a support --not the frontline-- for the border authorities. The border authorities will continue to be the ones on the lead

And the military will use proportionate response only (guns for rocks is disproportionate and may face legal repercussions)

Most of this will blow over after the election. The caravan will fizzle put and Fox/GOP will move on to the next thing to terrify their base.

In the meantime, we will have to listen to Trump fans imagine their worst fears coming to life and fantasies of a military assault to help them cope.

At this point I don’t find these ‘immigrants’ so benign. They know what’s awaiting them as they try to pass the border. Such a mass migration knowing you’re headed toward certain resistance, even violent, sounds a little odd. These people have no inherent rights or claims trying to enter the US - or Mexico. I feel there’s more to this story that we’re not being told by an anti-Trump media. Fake news? Not objective news. I don’t see these ‘immigrants’ as suicidal. What’s or who’s pushing them? Their fate on this journey isn’t any better than at home. Why go through all this trouble? An uncertain fate awaits them as they approach the US border. For all these desperate actions, I don’t see what they’ll gain. We’re not being given the full and true story here.

The anti-borders crowd hasn't a leg to stand on suggesting that anyone can throw rocks at another human.

That is just wrong.

The US Military won't have weapons at the border. They will be there for support reasons. Anything more is against US laws.

The military can be guards for detention centers, but they will also be medics, doctors, and cooks.

but they will also be medics, doctors, and cooks.

Here we come. Free meds and food. Beats getting murdered back home. Is Trump OK? I thought he said he said he was going to shoot children if they throw pebbles at US troops.

and stones are weapons that can kill.

Trump voters want the troops at the border to shoot children.

Yeah so these people already filed a lawsuit against Trump and the United Stated and they haven’t even snuck over the border yet.

The statement was ROCKS. But liberals want to say “pebbles”. He didn’t say that. Just like 5000 invaders is “small”

The statement was ROCKS

Pebbles are hard just like rocks and can be dangerous. Trump wants children to be shot.

It's sad to see once proud and strong conservative men begging an elitist New Yorker to send troops to protect them from migrant women and children.

Then I feel sorry for you - your expectations and goals for your President in terms of truthfulness and integrity are very low.

No, just normal from everything that I have witnessed with other Presidents as well.

How could you ask your son or daughter to look up to and admire a proven liar? 

Thats why I made sure my kids are not Democrats or liberals. I love them way to much.

..and all the Republicans can take a one-way flight to Russia - GOP = Guardians of Putin...

Yaaaawwn...ok and?

Well, I assume you've read the comments from 90% of those that identify as Liberal who say the same thing...

I never really payed too much attention to liberals, particularly their policies......if they have any at all.

Non-responsive to the question - what do you think of some Trump supporters here who advocate deadly force against women and children?

I already answered that question, scroll up please.

It's sad to see once proud and strong conservative men begging an elitist New Yorker to send troops to protect them from migrant women and children

Mostly men, but breaking the law is breaking the law and if the people use violence then they should be met with justifiable force.

It's sad to see once proud and strong conservative men begging an elitist New Yorker to send troops to protect them from migrant women and children.

I think it’s good, he went from thr dark side and back to the light.

breaking the law is breaking the law and if the people use violence then they should be met with justifiable force.

Yes. Trump voters want these children shot by American troops. These children are attacking us solders with dangerous objects.

Are you gonna use FLAMETHROWERS, or just standard MACHINE GUNS??

"The US is no longer a shining beacon on the hill"

Yeah, that must be why all these people want to get into the U.S.

Are you gonna use FLAMETHROWERS, or just standard MACHINE GUNS??

That would depend on what the Democrats want.

Good offense reduces the need to rely on defense!

and what type of coward shoots an unarmed civilian with a military weapon.

stones can be easily defended with a riot shield

 use violence then they should be met with justifiable force.

throws rock , get a bullet in the head, yep totally justifiable, excessive justice, but justice all the same. MAGA

and what type of coward shoots an unarmed civilian with a military weapon.

stones can be easily defended with a riot shield

Apparantly, you got hit in the head or the face by a rock, ask the Israelis what they think about what you just said.

throws rock , get a bullet in the head, yep totally justifiable, excessive justice, but justice all the same. MAGA

Sorry, but you won’t make me feel guilty.

Sorry, but you won’t make me feel guilty.

who said anything about feeling guilty, its about a sense of morality , you know that pesky little thing called morals, who needs them, just gets in the way when your in the process of a good slaughter of unarmed civilians. While were at it maybe we should put some auto turrts on the boarder with some rock sensors, that way the marines dont even need to physically pull the trigger just pull up a chair and watch the show. then they can blame those pesky invaders for starting it.

Eh, don't try to enter a country illegally or you'll face repercussions. The US isn't the first country to clamp down on immigration. cough Japan cough...

Positioning LRAD battery's from Ft. Hood along the border would do the job. They are an effective non-lethal deterrent.

who said anything about feeling guilty, its about a sense of morality

Subjective

you know that pesky little thing called morals, who needs them, just gets in the way when your in the process of a good slaughter of unarmed civilians.

Funny, Democrats never believed in morals when they completely decimated the Black community!

While were at it maybe we should put some auto turrts on the boarder with some rock sensors, that way the marines dont even need to physically pull the trigger just pull up a chair and watch the show. then they can blame those pesky invaders for starting it.

Yup with statements like that should the Dems take the House, they’ll lose it again in two years

Posters shouldn't waste time questioning others regarding morals or guilt when they state..."so basically, I feel nothing"

who said anything about feeling guilty, its about a sense of morality

Subjective I think you meant selective morality.

Funny, Democrats never believed in morals when they completely decimated the Black community!

what your comparing 19th century slavery to today!? History is filled with immoral murderous acts doesnt mean you can use it as an excuse for immoral actions or insinuations in 2018. Bit like the synagogue shooter saying "Hitler was guilty of killing Jews why is it wrong when I do it"

U.S. President Donald Trump on Thursday warned that soldiers deployed to the Mexican border could shoot Central American migrants who throw stones at them while attempting to cross illegally.

Trump told journalists at the White House that a group of several thousand migrants walking through Mexico toward the U.S. border had thrown rocks "viciously and violently" at Mexican police.

"We're not going to put up with that. They want to throw rocks at our military, our military fights back," he said. "I told them (troops) consider it (a rock) a rifle. When they throw rocks like they did at the Mexican military and police, I say consider it a rifle."

Amazing. In spite of the fact that Trump did not say anything about shooting the rock throwers, fiction writer Nicholas Kamm claims that he did. There are other ways of dealing with rock throwers even if the soldiers were to consider rocks as rifles. Bringing in armored vehicles, for instance. Why does the news media insist on adding their own fantasies to their alleged news stories?

nishikat - I thought he said he said he was going to shoot children if they throw pebbles at US troops.

Trump voters want the troops at the border to shoot children.

You must be a Democrat. Trump did not say this. You, nishikat, did.

Let's see who conservatives that talk about these people being "hostile invaders" sound like:

 accused Pittsburgh synagogue shooter Robert Bowers, an anti-Semite who railed against nonwhite refugees by labeling them “hostile invaders.”

It must be pure coincidence that conservatives on this site sound like a mass-murdering, far right anti-Semite. Pure coincidence.

Let's see if Trump said the military is going to shoot rock throwers:

"They want to throw rocks at our military, our military fights back," the president told reporters. "I told them to consider it a rifle. When they throw rocks like what they did to the Mexican military and police I say consider it a rifle."

Conservatives don't have the intellectual capacity or honesty to understand what is being said here. Our military "fights back" with firearms and other projectile weapons when they are being attacked with "rifles." This means Trump was saying the military will shoot rock throwers.

I know Trump did another about-face and said you meant the rock throwers will be arrested. I know Trump's supporters have no issue doing about-faces when Trump tells them to. This means we'll have posters on here claiming they meant the rock throwers should be arrested despite their own words from yesterday demonstrating they meant the rock throwers should be shot.

Chip Star - Let's see if Trump said the military is going to shoot rock throwers:

"They want to throw rocks at our military, our military fights back," the president told reporters. "I told them to consider it a rifle. When they throw rocks like what they did to the Mexican military and police I say consider it a rifle."

Conservatives don't have the intellectual capacity or honesty to understand what is being said here. Our military "fights back" with firearms and other projectile weapons when they are being attacked with "rifles." This means Trump was saying the military will shoot rock throwers.

I said, "There are other ways of dealing with rock throwers even if the soldiers were to consider rocks as rifles. Bringing in armored vehicles, for instance. Why does the news media insist on adding their own fantasies to their alleged news stories?"

You are the one who said the military will shoot rock throwers. Why does the news media, and you, insist on adding their own fantasies to these stories?

I said,

Okay.

You are the one who said the military will shoot rock throwers. Why does the news media, and you, insist on adding their own fantasies to these stories?

No, I am not the one who said the military should shoot rock throwers, Trump did. I'm the one who explained it to you in even simpler terms than Trump did. Please don't shoot the messenger.

who said anything about feeling guilty, its about a sense of morality

*Subjective** I think you meant selective morality.*

No. I meant, it’s subjective to your personal interpretation.

what your comparing 19th century slavery to today!?

No, when I look at almost every black community under Democrat rule from the 60’s to the present.

Then I feel sorry for you - your expectations and goals for your President in terms of truthfulness and integrity are very low.

No, just normal from everything that I have witnessed with other Presidents as well.

"Low" for an American President is not normal, until 2016....

How could you ask your son or daughter to look up to and admire a proven liar? 

Thats why I made sure my kids are not Democrats or liberals. I love them way to much.

Come on Bass, stop juking - you said all Presidents lie - that's your expectation and "normal" - all Presidents as in Rep and Dem - how can you ask you kids to look up to a liar?

..and all the Republicans can take a one-way flight to Russia - GOP = Guardians of Putin...

Yaaaawwn...ok and?

Just using your analogy....

Well, I assume you've read the comments from 90% of those that identify as Liberal who say the same thing...

I never really payed too much attention to liberals, particularly their policies......if they have any at all.

Really? You seem to reply to almost every Liberal post here...this being one... But more to the point - you don't read Liberal posts even when they agree with you? I find that hard to believe....

Non-responsive to the question - what do you think of some Trump supporters here who advocate deadly force against women and children?

I already answered that question, scroll up please.

OK, we get it - it's stumps (Trump's) you.... Its pretty easy to answer - either you approve of using deadly force against unarmed women or children or you don't - as you have repeatedly failed to answer, we'll assume you support your fellow Trumpster and approve....

You know, after thinking this over, I don't see what the problem is here...

Trump promised the first thing he would do as President was to build a wall and have Mexico pay for it, right?

So why all the fuss, isn't the wall built and paid for by Mexico? Migrants can't walk through walls, can they?

Come on Bass, stop juking - you said all Presidents lie - that's your expectation and "normal" - all Presidents as in Rep and Dem - how can you ask you kids to look up to a liar?

My kids see the difference when I do side by side comparisons and in-depth analysis and usually they can figure out for themselves who really is untrustworthy and the media is the first that they always comment on. So yes, they understand and respect this President.

Just using your analogy....

Not mine.

Really? You seem to reply to almost every Liberal post here...this being one...

You do as well.

OK, we get it

No, you don’t and I have answered your question.

My kids see the difference when I do side by side comparisons and in-depth analysis and usually they can figure out for themselves who really is untrustworthy and the media is the first that they always comment on. So yes, they understand and respect this President.

Who you admit is a proven liar...

Just using your analogy....

Not mine.

bass4funkNov. 2  04:30 pm JST

If we go by that then all Democrats need a one way ticket to Europe

Really? You seem to reply to almost every Liberal post here...this being one...

You do as well.

Well, I don't reply to all Liberal posts, but quite a few Trumpster ones - and I admit it.

bass4funkNov. 2  10:55 pm JST

I never really payed too much attention to liberals, particularly their policies......if they have any at all.

OK, we get it

No, you don’t and I have answered your question

No Bass, you didn't...

Who you admit is a proven liar...

As with our politicians.

Well, I don't reply to all Liberal posts,

Neither do I.

but quite a few Trumpster ones - and I admit it.

There you go.

No Bass, you didn't...

“Yes, I did.” Here you go once more for the record.

Mostly men, but breaking the law is breaking the law and if the people use violence then they should be met with justifiable force.

No. I meant, it’s subjective to your personal interpretation.

yes just like I said its selective morallity open to your own interpretation, shooting unarmed civilians or not.

Mostly men, but breaking the law is breaking the law and if the people use violence then they should be met with justifiable force. there is nothing subjective about returning a bullet when receiving a rock, almost zero military/police have been killed when rocks are thrown at them , returning bullets as a leathal response well you know the results of that.

Who you admit is a proven liar...

As with our politicians.

Got it - Trump = proven liar = admiration...

Well, I don't reply to all Liberal posts,

Neither do I.

Yes, actually you do...

but quite a few Trumpster ones - and I admit it.

There you go.

There you go what?

No Bass, you didn't...

“Yes, I did.” Here you go once more for the record.

Mostly men, but breaking the law is breaking the law and if the people use violence then they should be met with justifiable force.

Please read the question before replying - I asked you if you approve or disapprove of Trump posters here who advocate lethal force against women and children? Its easy to answer - just put approve or disapprove....

Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

President or supreme leader?

How many women and children do you Trump haters see in this group of 4,000+ people, who have miraculously marched 1200 miles on foot, looking well fed and watered, and remarkably clean and happy?

Trump warns that migrants who throw stones at U.S. military may be shot

This would constitute that of a war crime

A number of Central American migrants traveling toward the U.S. border filed a lawsuit against Trump claiming a violation of constitutional rights.

They absolutely do not have any legal standing. However, I'm seriously considering suing CNN's Don Lemon for insensitive racial harmful remarks. I have been experiencing PTSD after hearing his hateful rhetoric.

Who ever heard of asylum seekers throwing rocks at the people of the country they are seeking to enter??? Unbelievable ignorance and gullibility.

The COWARD COMMANDER, PRIVATE BONE SPURS, has since changed his mind.

Hey conservative posters, if America is so great why is it and YOU are trembling in your boots and slewing so much hate towards people who want to clean your hotel toilets and room, and be nannies for your precious oligarchs??? Remember, more than a few got busted for having illegals in their mansions a few years ago. And if you hate such poor brown people, (really, would we be having this conversation if these were poor Yukon Canadians?? Think not!), why don’t you go out and shoot them yourselves, instead of egging on others to do it???

I have been experiencing PTSD after hearing his hateful rhetoric.

well youd better put Hannity and friends on the top of that list first

Trump usually begins with a statement that pushes the envelop and then negotiates from there. The message to the invasion force is clear: the MSM will publish the photos of the minority of your group made up of women and children, but our military will shoot your men. If the invasion force has communist training they will hold up their women and children in the front lines as a sacrificial threat.

In my home state in America this year, a criminal on parole struck and knocked out a police officer with a stone. He took the officers gun and killed him and shot another women.

So, a stone can be deadly.

What President Trump actually States was “rock throwing would be treated the same as being shot at”. He did not say a response would be met with a lethal bullet he’s not looking to create another “Kent State Incident” however nonlethal force cannot be ruled out — OC spray, Rubber Projectiles, etc. There are US Embassies in all the countries these migrants are coming from and the proper procedure was to apply for entry or asylum there vice attempting to “crash the gate” illegally. A country w/o borders is not a country nor can any country allow 1000 of illegals to storm it’s borders and claim asylum under the pretense of seeking jobs, better housing & medical, theres no fear or prosecution or death in that. Common sense must prevail.

North African countries did the same toward migrant years ago and continue this politic and have killed a lot of them.

Few EU did the same.

Nobody open their mouth.

Donald Trump do the same.

Everybody open their mouth.

xD

Trump's blatant and rampant racism seem to be driving voters away from Republican candidates, not toward them.

How one can throw stones at police, that too by men, who want to migrate to an another country? Will any country accept migrants from their neighbourhood?Just as we are trying to have open economy all over the world, let us have open door policy for anyone to go to any country without visa and let the market decide where people want to go.

We need to condemn those who throw stones and rocks on policemen, who are protecting the borders of their country. We have witnessed in India, where students are encouraged to throw stones for a price at policemen to create chaos and violence.

Those who throw stones have no place in any society.

approval rating waning? simply "wag the dog". create a war. the simple, bigoted will always rally around a "president-at-war". at war with who? doesn't matter. americans don't care if the military machine guns to death unarmed women, children & elderly asylum-seekers who are barefooted, starving and have been walking for months. that's the american. ask an american to explain the asylum-seeking process and watch them drool and snarl about "illegals". never mind the fact that seeking asylum is a legal process that their simple minds can't grasp.

How many of you guys here have had rocks thrown at you?

Big jagged rocks?

Well, I have. And petrol/nail bombs too. It ain't no joke. These things can kill or do serious damage to you.

One warning. That's all you get. If you persist, then....."pop"

You get what's comming.

Whether that is a baton or bean sack round....or "authorised" full metal.

Our troops are asked to do the dirty work. Let them do it with our backing.

Trump has called this right.

Don't want shot? Don't throw rocks and guys with pointy fire sticks!

why would refugees/asylum seekers throw stones at military personnel in the country where they are seeking asylum?

i imagine trump gets an erecetion when he watches that scene in Schinder's List in which Ralph Fiennes randomly shoots/terrorizes jewish forced laborers.

that, or his friend netanyahoo told him that shooting starving people, who are armed only with stones, is a good idea.

The language surrounding this peaceful march is becoming hysterical and all out of proportion.

They are not invaders, criminals, terrorists.

But Trump's America will become a terror state if it goes down the IDF road.

Palestinians and Irish civil rights protesters know the score.

If thousands of migrant's began crossing the East Sea, or South China Sea, or even the Pacific, and began to throw rocks at Japanese patrol boats, how would Japan react?

Taking a page from the Israeli playbook, are we?

I guess I am. Nobody has the right to throw stones at troops going about lawful duties.

I'm a patriot who loves our troops. Who are you?

this is really mind blowing; so many here think that it is finest of action for someone to throw large chunks of rocks, seriously injure, maim or even kill man on duty while it is a crime to prevent that kind of attack or fight back. And what is your reasoning for the approval of this rock throwers even being at the border of any foreign country with intention to enter it forcibly. And when the known fact is that they refused offers to stay and work for a living in the country of illegal trespass for preference of invading the one where they would collect welfare instead of working, I just can't see how anyone can oppose the rightful announcement of intent to self defense.