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© Copyright 2019 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.Trump to delay listing Mexican cartels as terrorist groups
By DARLENE SUPERVILLE WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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wtfjapan
If you hit the drug cartels with drones, you will do good for once
the only problem is they'll start slaughtering civilians , drug cartels are everywhere in Mexico especially in urban areas and thanks to the easy access to weapons from America one of the most heavily armed criminal organisations in the world. Im no fan of the cartels but Trump has to be very careful, making them terrorists and theyll most likely act like terrorists targeting Mexicans as well as Americans alike.
Imagine another Afghanistan right on Americas doorstep. over 60% of all drugs smuggled into the US come by roads , ports air, sea. imagine bombs as well as drugs being smuggled into the US. I pray Trump doesnt screw this up like so many other things
ClippetyClop
"Great choice, fine leadership, 5-D Othello etc if only the Dems had done blah blah"
lincolnman
Trump: Trump said in a radio interview just last week that he “absolutely” would move ahead with designating the drug cartels as terrorist organizations.
Reality: Delayed...
Kind'a like;
Trump: "We're ending America's endless wars and bringing our troops home"...
Reality: Looking to increase US forces in Middle East by 14,000...
https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-administration-considers-14-000-more-troops-for-mideast-11575494228
Or;
Trump: "We will build a wall - and Mexico will pay for it; mark my words, mark my words"...
Reality: After three years, 60 miles out of 2000 has been replaced...no new portions have been built.
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/aug/30/donald-trumps-border-wall-how-much-has-really-been/
So, Trumpers, how does it fell being conned?
wtfjapan
Then you need to incinerate the snake so that you’re left with nothing but ashes.
But in the meantime, aggressively seek out and destroy as many Cartel leaders as you can. Take out the leadership and you make a huge impact, go after the low level soldiers they’ll recruit new ones.
been doing that in Afghanistan for the last 15+ yrs , Taliban are still there. Now try and do this with an organisation that has billions in resources thousands of arms and millions of civilians to hide behind, does anybody really think its going to make a difference except increase the body count. Expect a lot more Americans to die in America if Trump is set on a war with the cartels,the cartels are fractionated now Trump may just bring them all together then the shite will really hit the fan
Chip Star
So am I, but that’s irrelevant to this conversation.
Just as soon as Donny stops walking his promises back.
Is that why Hamas constantly sends rockets into Israel? Do a bit of research.
This is irrelevant to trying to equate a bully with the cartels being incorrect.
Where do the Germans get their coke?
Really?! Thanks for that gem.
It hasn’t worked yet and won’t work.
In the courts. Guiliani didn’t go after the mob with drones and marines. You’re really grasping.
Chip Star
Which we’ve been trying to do since. Nixon, to no avail.
Which the Israelis have been trying to do with Hamas, to no avail.
Violence is is clearly not the answer.
Seriously? You think the US’ proximity to Mexico is why there are so many people in the US that do drugs? By that “logic,” Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico are chalk full of junkies.
Laguna
Wow. I never thought I'd hear Trump say something both sensitive and sensible.
Chip Star
Zichi: Exactly. Your post, I’m afraid, will fly straight over some people’s heads. We’ll get some but liberals or I’m from California responses instead of good faith engagement in the convo.
Chip Star
Donny breaking walking back a knee jerk reaction yet again. How will his supporters spin this?
wtfjapan
Yes, if we didn’t have the 3rd largest populated country and located next to Mexico, maybe things would be different.
so its mexico's fault that America is full of junkies/ lol
Chip Star
Then, with the current cartels, we’ve been doing it since Reagan’s first term. If not Reagan, Bush I, if not Bush I, Clinton. The point being that you’re utterly incorrect and violence is not the answer.
This is irrelevant to the fact that the Israelis have not been successful stamping out Palestine violence with Israeli violence.
False equivalency. Bully’s aren’t fueled by billions and billions of dollars like the cartels.
Germany is irrelevant to this conversation. I know it’s close to impossible for you, but let’s keep things relevant.
No market, no supply. I thought you knew about economics.
Utterly incorrect.
You are clearly not interested in engaging in the conversation in good faith. Enjoy wallowing in it.
Chip Star
Mexico doesn’t, some Mexicans do.
Okay.
Escobar wasn’t Mexican and no where near the US border.
Haha. Follow your own advice.
ulysses
If you hit the drug cartels with drones, you will do good for once.
bass4funk
Not entirely, but they definitely take half of the blame and dismissing that critical fact is more evidence as why liberals are soft on the drug issue overall, they like to blame the victims, but give the perpetrators a pass as usual, you have to separate the two and deal with each accordingly, no one is disputing what you’re saying, there is truth in that, but that doesn’t give Mexico the excuse or the right with impunity to kill, attack or cross our borders illegally or killing our citizens. El Chapo was extremely lucky he was taken in alive, Escobar wasn’t, which was equally as good. Keep the emotion out of the argument.
bass4funk
No, because the Cartels of today didn’t exist for one and we never designated drug lords as terrorists, but in doing so, we can capture or kill the top leadership thus severely crippling the Cartels to the point, they don’t know when they go to sleep if it will be their last night and that physiological mind play really stresses people out.
Most Mexicans are Christians, they love life and most don’t want to die for martyrdom and to come think of it, a lot of Muslims don’t want to either they just talk a lot of ....,but Saddam, OBL, el Baghdadi, none of these people wanted to die.
I beg to differ and that’s the problem. A bully attacks you and you do nothing, they will do it again and again, stand up for yourself, go on the offensive and it’s an entirely different story.
Yes, I do and if Germany were connected to the Mexico, they would be by far one of their largest customer base.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-named-drug-use-capital-following-europe-wide-sewage-study/a-47968865
bass4funk
No, I’m from California and we never went after them with the fervor and intensity like we have been with the Jihadists, but that’s about to hopefully change now.
But they’ve been extremely successful at targeting and killing the leadership thus fracturing and severely crippling Hamas and that’s exactly what you want. Keep pounding away.
No, but you can always take the bully out and for all the weaponry we have, it’s not even a tenth of what our military has or can even compete with our capabilities, it just needs to be unleashed and bypass the BS bureaucracy.
Not really, Europe has equally a huge drug problem, so it has nothing to do with the people in the US, it has everything to do with accessibility switch the two out and the result would be exactly the same. Germans are people as well, they just speak a different language
Been doing that.,
It’s all correct, if you want to deal with the Cartels, the WH is correct, you need to engage them with violence and a clear determination for wanting to aggressively wipe them out. They laughed at Giuliani at the time, but if it weren’t for him, the 5 families would still be wreaking havoc in NYC and he took them on aggressively, that’s how you do it.
bass4funk
Doesn't seem like it. He seems to have disdain for people he doesn’t like, so in due time.
But the senior leadership is thinning out more and more, that’s great, so the less they have people wanting to take on Israel, the more it helps them and they can live in peace longer and if a new leader emerges, take him out as well. Israelis have more than enough weaponry hardware and manpower to deal with Terrorism
Not really, because you’re dealing with a bully and if you can’t reason with them, then the only other alternative is to stand your ground and strike them back. Now and more than ever it’s time.
Coke is not the only drug of choice for the Germans and it depends, but a lot comes from the Albanians and other parts of Eastern Europe, if Germany were next to Mexico then they would go there and us it as their biggest supplier.
Hasn't been tried yet, but if implemented and you take out the senior leadership aggressively, it would work and greatly cripple the Cartels. We just need to green light. El Chapo, OBL el Baghdadi, loved to have seen their faces when they got that knock. .
He was responsible for their demise.
Armed with these new tools, future New York mayor Rudy Giuliani, then a federal prosecutor, masterminded the indictment of 11 Mafia leaders, including the heads of New York’s five dominant crime families, in February 1985. The case against them relied on bugs planted in strategic locations–such as the dashboard of a Jaguar owned by Lucchese family chief Anthony “Tony Ducks” Corallo–over the course of a four-year investigation. Eight of the original defendants stood trial together and were convicted in November 1986.
https://www.history.com/news/major-mob-busts-in-u-s-history
So getting aggressive works, you just need the initiative and before Giuliani, the previous leaderships just did what most liberals always do, make excuses or as you put it, grasping.
bass4funk
You don’t know what I know.
I get it, but Germans are still using it in large numbers as Americans are both part of the human race.
In a sense it is when you factor in how aggressive Israel has been when it comes to terrorism and have done a fantastic job at eradicating some of the most dangerous and senior leadership of Hamas, we could and should do the same.
I went to school with many of them.
I disagree. I say, take out and wipeout the leadership of these Cartels, keep them on the run and to come up with privatize programs to deal with the addiction crisis and to educate and to give a better understanding of the downfalls of drug use.
Serrano
Glad to see Trump cooperating with the Mexican president.
And guaranteed if he had refused his request and gone ahead and listed Mexican cartels as terrorist groups, all the anti-Trumpers would be criticizing him for that.
bass4funk
Yes, if we didn’t have the 3rd largest populated country and located next to Mexico, maybe things would be different.
bass4funk
Then you need to incinerate the snake so that you’re left with nothing but ashes.
But in the meantime, aggressively seek out and destroy as many Cartel leaders as you can. Take out the leadership and you make a huge impact, go after the low level soldiers they’ll recruit new ones.