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Underworld
Trump loves autocrats and wants to be one.
Ah_so
Sounds about right. Trump is a fascist. And as he looks more likely to be elected, it is the people that vote for him most loyally will be the ones that suffer most.
plasticmonkey
He couldn't be in his first term because he was surrounded by people who were more loyal to their constitutional duties than to him.
He's already made sure those guardrails are gone if he's elected.
plasticmonkey
Pathetic.
dagon
That is the project 2025 to stack the government and Military industrial complex with MAGA loyalists.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/aug/12/trump-overturn-result-presidential-election-vote
bass4funk
Even when he got rid of the establishment swamp rats he still never tried to take over anything.
ROFL!
Because they all know Kelly is lying.
Even Esper debunked Kelly’s remarks and he hates Trump. Well, cleared that up for me once again…
https://x.com/_johnnymaga/status/1849176977015804409?s=46&t=YGWP_lcRZjddiWlx4QxURQ
bass4funk
Again, What is up with libs and P2025? ROFL!
deanzaZZR
I don't believe this is new news. I recall this information coming out a few months after the demonstrations in Washington DC, the Bible incident and Trump suggesting that the USA military could get rid of the demonstrators by shooting some of them in the legs.
plasticmonkey
= people who honor the Constitution and their duty to the American people more than loyalty to Trump
Sure he did. He tried to keep himself in power by making up a bunch of bull about the 2020 election and attempting to overturn the results.
Your man is a wannabe dictator. He's in it for himself.
Underworld
bass4funk
John Kelly isn’t lying and a claim that you didn’t hear Trump say something doesn’t mean he didn’t say it.
bass4funk
If any of this crap were true, Kelly would have announced this years ago or even after he booted out of office. We don’t hear Jack from this guy, but now all of a sudden and less than 2 weeks this guy comes forward and says, oh, by the way….
This shows how desperate these people are that they’re pushing these people to say and throw anything in the hopes something will stick.
Bad Haircut
Fake "news". This just demonstrates how desperate the Democrats are, fearing their dud candidate is going to lose big.
bass4funk
If Kelly was so concerned by alleged comments Trump made in 2018, why didn’t he go public about any of this then, or for 2020 election? You can believe him if you want, that’s your choice, I don’t.
-The media called for his resignation in February of 2018 before Trump fired him.
-Kelly reportedly trash talked Trump while Trump before he was fired.
-Multiple outlets report John Kelly was left out of key decisions throughout 2018 making him feel belittled.
-In December of 2018, Trump fired and replaced him and immediately after, he disparaged Trump.
John Kelly was offered $15 million to write a book, so yeah, why now?? Now we know.
Underworld
Bad Haircut
Truth hurts. BTW John Kelly isn’t a Democrat. He’s a Republican.
Underworld
bass4funk
*John Kelly isn’t lying and a claim that you didn’t hear Trump say something doesn’t mean he didn’t say it.*
Truth hurts.
lincolnman
And one more former "best-ever" Trump cabinet official, retired 4-star General, Gold-Star family member...comes out and says Trump is the incompetent, degenerate, loser we always thought he was...
You're late to the party General but thanks anyway...
bass4funk
Oh, yeah? Why didn’t Kelly immediately come out with these allegations at that time? I mean, as you say, the Constitution is more important than his loyalty to Trump and yet for 5 years he sat on this information. A 15 million dollar book deal and 2 weeks before and election, now he comes out with this? You kidding me?
He didn’t, if he did, why Keely didn’t sound the alarm? Again, he values the Constitution over Trump loyalty, is that not right?
Well, given the whistleblowers, testimony, documents, there’s a lot that we now know wasn’t the way we thought..
Yeah, keep telling yourself that. I can claim KFC is the healthiest food all day long as well. lol
Blacklabel
The person interviewed was very clear that Trump did not say this. That’s very clear.
the article? The person says they didn’t hear him say it.
that’s twisting the words, obviously.
he did not say it.
lincolnman
So where is Trump going to show up this week to prove he's a "working man" after his stint as a McD fry cook?
Answer: "Donald Trump today tried another “job” - he donned a sleazy T-shirt and sat behind the cash register at a run-down porn shop - the one near the lumber yard where Rudy had his press conference"....
Trump stated; “Now this is more of a job I can relate to…and I get Stormy Daniels DVDs at wholesale prices!"...
stormcrow
If Trump is comparing himself to Hitler, the funny thing is that the Allies couldn't have won WWII without Adolf's help. Hitler was a lousy commander. He ordered his generals to never retreat and not back up an inch, when a strategic retreat and counter offensive was what was called for, as plainly evident on the Eastern Front. Yes, the German generals were the best, but they followed the orders of an idiot who refused to let them fight strategically. As a result, the Germans went on to lose the war being led by a madman, Adolf Hitler, who wanted to burn Germany to the ground for losing.
Does that sound like the kind of guy you want leading your country?!
Peter Neil
bass4funkToday 07:30 am JST
he did.
fox news and maga will be suffering severe back pain from twisting and bending over backwards to rationalize trump’s insanity. are there maga-approved chiropractors?
Underworld
Blacklabel
Of course, he said it. It’s not even surprising.
Truth hurts, I guess.
bass4funk
The 15 million dollar book deal? Yup, it does.
https://x.com/mguilen_/status/1848824382572900374?s=46&t=YGWP_lcRZjddiWlx4QxURQ
Blacklabel
Nope he didn’t say it. The person interviewed who was there clearly said that.
and no, he didn’t complain about the cost of someone’s funeral he didn’t pay for either,
all you have is 4 year old debunked and desperate nonsense claims to try to trick voters.
Not gonna work. But McDonalds! lol
geronimo2006
It seems it doesn't matter what Trump says or said. I've come to the conclusion many Americans are right wing and happy to elect a dictator.
wallace
Trump is dysfunctional.
ArtistAtLarge
History records that Hitler had some fairly competent generals, but Hitler and his inner circle refused to listen to them.
Eventually, a group of generals tried to assassinate Hitler. Known as the July 20th Incident. (1944)
So, those kinds of generals?
Underworld
Blacklabel
You can’t prove that Trump didn’t say something. He may not have been around when he said it.
But I understand why you don’t want to believe Trump said this.
He certainly did. He instructed his administration not to pay for it. This after he said that he would.
Truth hurts!
dagon
The MAGA demagoguery is more pathetic as the election nears.
Waiting for 'Kelly is a RINO. Kelly has Trump derangement syndrome. Kelly is a plant from the Harris/Biden crime syndicate. Kelly lied about his Marine service. Kelly was a secret deep state leftist his whole career.'
Underworld
Blacklabel
True.
Trump didn’t know that, but Kelly explained it to him. Didn’t change Trump’s mind.
Trump.
Bad Haircut
That doesn't matter. He likely had a falling out with Trump over something, probably wanted to go to war over something and Trump refused, so he decided to get his revenge by making up a quote like this.
Toblerone
Hitler was a lousy commander. He ordered his generals to never retreat and not back up an inch, when a strategic retreat and counter offensive was what was called for, as plainly evident on the Eastern Front. Yes, the German generals were the best, but they followed the orders of an idiot who refused to let them fight strategically. As a result, the Germans went on to lose the war being led by a madman, Adolf Hitler, who wanted to burn Germany to the ground for losing.
Lots of misinformation mixed in with your post.
Things weren’t as simple as that.
lincolnman
Actually there's nothing really surprising here - other than the MAGA-cult members, we all know Trump is a disgusting miscreant who hates our military heroes and anyone who serves their country...there are already tons of examples of that...
What is more concerning is the recent clear plunge into the depth of dementia...the zombie-like 39 minutes of twerking to disco music, comments on Arnold Palmer's genitals, calling his supporters "fat pigs" (which they take no offense to)....
He's crumbling and spiraling down right before our eyes...and our MAGA-friends here can pretend they don't see it all they want...we know they do - it's crystal clear in their increasing desperate and outlandish posts...
bass4funk
Why? For calling out these Charlatans?
Establishment definitely
Don’t know, don’t care about this nut job, but I will say this, when he was in the WH he served at the pleasure of the president and if he didn’t think was doing his job well or had a problem with his Presidency, resign. It’s just don’t simple, don’t try and undermine a sitting president. The left had no Problem calling Flynn and Petraeus criminals in a heartbeat, but Kelly coming out 5 years to say something made up.
Gene Hennigh
Yes, a lot of people will vote for Trump and, alas, he might just win. Then his supporters will get what they wanted. And they will be very unhappy. If ever there was a time to say, "Be careful what you wish for. . .", this is it.
funkymofo
The cultists never question Trump- they always try to smear the messenger.
Ivana Trump told her lawyer Michael Kennedy that from time to time her husband reads a book of Hitler's collected speeches, "My New Order," which he keeps in a cabinet by his bed.
Of course he said it. There is not a single person in the world who would be shocked by this news.
Blacklabel
the main disappointment here is James Mattis.
that guy had a reputation as a leader of men. Highest personal character. tells it like it is and makes it happen,
Either he never was any of that or he fell under the political influence of others who lied to him and led him astray.
now he’s just the last guy on the repetitive list of now disgraced we hate Trump “leaders”
Kelly, Milley, Mattis. How sad his name is there and last.
Underworld
burgers and beers
window into who the former president “really is" and the kind of commander in chief he would be.
And these new revelations help a lot.
Blacklabel
nothing to question.
he didn’t say it, wouldn’t say it and no purpose or reason to say it.
obvious desperation hit job to affect an election the left is losing. You know you are losing and so does your media.
so assignments were made: Obama took “white supremacy”, Walz took “Hitler/military” and Harris takes “authoritarian/fascist/J6”.
then the media took but McDonalds!, Elon Musk and “the stock market is down yesterday cause Trump will win”.
plasticmonkey
He did.
What does that mean exactly?
bass4funk
They did question Trump. And the messenger(s) were discredited by 7 people who were there in the room.
Ok, so that’s one person, so why would her personal lawyer go against her client and spread this allegation? What about attorney client privileges? Maybe that’s why he isn’t her lawyer anymore.
Can you prove that?
The left can believe what they want, that’d their right.
Underworld
Blacklabel
The cultists never question Trump-
The self denial is immense.
lincolnman
Now we see the reason all of our MAGA-friends are posting these ridiculous X account links. - they're being played for a fool...
"Results from a “shock” poll shared by one of Donald Trump’s surrogates started trending on X Monday, telling 1.4 million people that the Republican presidential nominee was gaining ground on Vice President Kamala Harris in New Mexico.
But none of it is real.
MAGA ally Richard Grennell, who served as the acting director of national intelligence during Trump’s administration, posted the sourceless numbers to his X account, claiming that Harris only had a three-point lead on the former president in the battleground state. But that alleged narrow lead made light of other recent surveys, including one published in the *Albuquerque Journal*** on Monday, which showed Harris with a nine-point lead, three times more than Grennell suggested.**
“Trump surrogates are literally fabricating polls at this point to make their supporters think a victory is inevitable,” wrote Democratic strategist and pollster Matt McDermott in response to Grennell’s post. “No poll shows this in New Mexico.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-gets-surprising-news-performance-153040733.html
Every time we see our MAGA-friends here post an X link - it just shows how easily manipulated and conned they are...
ok1517
Trump following the "old Adolf textbook"!
Insurrection, instigating, inciting, insulting, denying, refusing, censoring the press ... did I forget anything?
He also wants to be a dictator like those other ones.
Don't let it happen - it wouldn't be the worst just for the US but for any other freedom and peace loving country!
dagon
So the tragedy is not Trump's generals expressing their disgust at working under a corrupt, incompetent authoritarian.
It is that they turned against Trump.
Great example of the cultist thinking of MAGA
DaDude
Cultists have their leader appointed to them without questioning the process.
plasticmonkey
The first trick of autocrats: get people to question the legitimacy of institutions, including bureaucrats, scientists and other experts, the judiciary, the press, and election workers. And threaten to throw them out.
Trump has done this for years.
He's a wannabe dictator.
bass4funk
No, it just shows that we have more access to not only lib mainstream media sources only.
Joe
Trump is a fascist and he sympathizes with and not so secretly admires Hitler and the Nazis.
And for them at reason alone, this election is an easy choice.
I’m vote for the “Not a Nazi sympathizer” candidate.
bass4funk
Well, as an American he can say what he wants, Kamala does, Joe says things all the time, and all day long, crazy things. But that’s what America is all about. Now if Trump has the military behind him locking down the WH and Congress and offing the Supreme Court, he will be an official dictator. As of now, not even remotely close, calm down.
Uh-huh….lol
If that were true, he’s not good at it. Lol
ok1517
@blacklabel
"the main disappointment here is James Mattis."
You forgot quite some more names, Generals, GOP representatives and so on.
So, let me help you out:
Mike Pence, former VP under Trump
John Bolton, national security adviser under Trump
Dan Coats, director of National Intelligence
Mark Esper, Secretary of Defense
John Kelly, White House Chief of Staff
H.R. McMaster, national security adviser
Ty Cobb, White House Special Counsel
Stephanie Grisham, White House Communications Director
Anthony Scaramucci, White House Communications Director
Mitt Romney, U.S. Senator from Utah
Just to name some of them. The list continues, and continues.
You want to tell us that they all "fell under the political influence of others who lied to them and led them astray"??? C'mon, man, those are highly educated people, people who know what they're doing and talking about, people who are patriots, worry about what would happen if Trump became PotUS.
Cards fan
Yeah, there's nothing to question here guys. Trump's cabinet and his own VP refusing to endorse him doesn't matter. The fact that they're all critical of him and his "leadership" doesn't matter. Having one of the highest turnovers of any administration also doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is my feelings that none of those things are true, my feelings that he didn't say the things his former staffers claimed he did, and my feelings that each and every accusation against him is just made up. Feelings over facts.
lincolnman
Wow, is that ever a clear admission...
Other than he's a putrid anti-military coward...
Obvious MAGA delusion...
Trump took "twerking/genitals/fries" and JD took the "cat ladies/couches"....
The media forced Trump to go to McDonalds? How'd they do that?
Raw Beer
Yes, they tried EVERYTHING to prevent Trump from getting to the election, but nothing worked. And now Harris seem even more unpopular than Hillary, and all they have left is the constant attacks by the MSM.
rcch
People choose to underestimate, minimize and downplay the strength of the Nazi German military (one of the most powerful forces in world history) and what they were able to achieve during the Third Reich because what the Nazis did was wrong—
…
( It is a fact (often left aside because it is true that they (the bad guys) lost) that Nazi Germany was only defeated because of the Alliance of millions of brave soldiers from various countries and because of tactical errors (and because of Hitler’s stubbornness) … )
…
People admire strength and power. Even if it were true that Trump mentioned Hitler and his generals, it would be because of this natural human instinct and not because Trump wants to be like Hitler or do the same things that Hitler did.
Either way, this is just another desperate attempt by John Kelly (who personally doesn't like Trump) and the MSM to mislead American voters.
Blacklabel
Non American civilians here maybe dont realize that “Generals” are not allowed to disparage the commander in chief , during active duty or after when getting government pension.
so obviously all the disparages incorrectly thought Trump will never be back, so they ran their mouth thinking no consequences.
oops. Another example of their Poor judgement.
Ken
Christian and Jewish friends remember Trump spoke greatly of Hitler. That is all you need to know to judge his character
lincolnman
Categorically false...
"The Manual for Courts-Martial, pt. IV, ¶ 12(c), however, narrows the scope of the offense: “If not personally contemptuous, adverse criticism of one of the officials or legislatures named in the article ... even though emphatically expressed, may not be charged as a violation ...” Further, “[t]he official or legislature against whom the words are used must be occupying one of the offices or be one of the legislatures named in Article 88 at the time of the offense.”
Trump hasn't "occupied an official office" since Jan 16th 2021...
Jimizo
So many of those who got to see Trump up close have disturbing and damning accounts of what he actually is.
Stormy Daniels said he’s no Arnold Palmer.
blue in green
Trump is the hope for the USA, and in turn, the world.
Cards fan
Yeah, but Daddy Twump is going to come back and punish all the mean men who had the audacity to speak the truth about him in 2025. ;)
Attilathehungry
Ah, The Atlantic. Paragon of unbiased reporting. Coincidentally, owned by one of Kamala's biggest donors. Article from General Kelly, who was fired by Trump.
It seems obvious that the Harris campaign is in free fall. Their closing argument is "Orange Man bad!". Nothing about how they will help Americans.
Next.
Jimizo
It’s incredible how so many of those close to him questioning his intellect, knowledge and honesty are painting a completely different picture to what we see in public - a highly intelligent, well-informed man of class, dignity, eloquence and probity.
This must confuse you no end.
Some dude
It's more or less obvious now that MAGA literally wouldn't care if Trump called for a second holocaust. They're going to vote for him whatever he says.
It now just comes down to whether the people who oppose him are motivated enough to vote in large numbers.
bass4funk
Doubt it, everyone says he never said that. Mark Esper said a lot of disparaging things about Trump, but he admitted he never, ever heard the President say anything remotely close. I know libs want to believe whatever they want, but there comes a time when even their lies reach a certain limit.
Some dude
I know libs want to believe whatever they want,
Irony level: beyond infinite.
Blacklabel
Spoiler alert: it is.
plasticmonkey
Democracies die by its institutions and norms being whittled down. You don't just call up the military and stage an instant coup de grace.
Your man's obsession with Putin, Xi, Kim, Duterte, Hitler and other strongmen should be enough to dissuade anyone from voting for him, unless you're actually a fan of dictatorships, which I suspect some MAGA cultists are. Note also Trump's obsession with locking up "the enemy within", his demonization of any critical press coverage, his insistence on loyalty above all else, his fondness for big military parades and other grand occasions that he can preside over.
Blacklabel
So when did John Kelly and Milley first criticize the Commander in Chief? Before that date, right?
Milley is especially terrified. He should be.
TokyoLiving
Trump being so Trump..
plasticmonkey
MAGA cultists' go-to defense: everyone is lying except Trump. Everyone.
Truly weird.
Blacklabel
all the retired military, drawing a government pension, who disparaged and undermined their commander in chief while he was in that role.
fixed it for ya.
plasticmonkey
Why so defensive? You yourself have crowed on multiple occasions about reading Mein Kampf.
bass4funk
None of these swamp establishment rats will ever be working in Washington, none of them would ever be elected to a lemonade stand, maybe write a book, that’s about it for these people and their sagging careers
Attilathehungry
Yes, Trump the anti-semite. Brokering peace deals with Israel and the surrounding Arab nations. Having Jewish grandchildren and a Jewish son-in-law. Sure.
As for General Kelly, I respect his service and his loss (his son was killed in action). But, don't forget that the military, at higher ranks, becomes increasingly political. And Trump is no friend of the neo-cons. He favours America protecting America first and not getting involved in myriad bushfire wars around the world. And this does NOT endear him to the military/foreign policy establishment in Washington.
dagon
More display of the incontinent demagoguery of MAGA.
According the MAGA king Harris is lying about her work experience at McDonalds. But you can still disparage her as a wage slave plebe versus the incomparable businessman who is your leader.
Same as MAGA attacking AOC about her bartending.
MAGA are all confused wannabe billionaires attacking the 'elites' with zero class consciousness.
Some dude
None of these swamp establishment rats will ever be working in Washington, none of them would ever be elected to a lemonade stand, maybe write a book, that’s about it for these people and their sagging careers
By your logic, there's only one republican left in the entire USA, and that's Trump.
bass4funk
Not me, the left though seem to be…
Yes, it’s a book, that’s the great thing about being an American, I can read and watch and say whatever I want, of course within context.
Blacklabel
And all of you who claim to know everything about Trump down to his personal thoughts and motivations.
have you read Art of the Deal? Watched every season of the Apprentice?
you haven’t, of course.
plasticmonkey
What makes them "swamp establishment rats"? They're not loyal enough to Trump.
Trump is a wannabe dictator because he's only in it for himself and he'll do anything to get his way.
Bob Fosse
45 hired all of these people.
Are they all lying or are some of the telling the truth?
Whichever you choose to believe he’s a really inept boss if he hired all these people and they all refuse to work with him again.
Some dude
how did you learn sooooooo much about Hitler then? A documentary? A Hollywood movie? lol
It's a concept called "education". Most countries have it, although some of them have trouble with it being regularly interrupted by mass shootings.
Bob Fosse
They were all ‘establishment rats’ but he hired them. I thought he was going to ‘drain the swamp’ not give them all jobs.
Or did they only become swampy establishment after 2020? That wouldn’t make any sense either though would it?
Cornered.
Bob Fosse
Do you think it’s more important to read a ghost written book from 1987 or analyze everything he did and said since 2016 when he entered politics?
I think it’s the latter.
Blacklabel
Oh your school studied in depth about Hitler?
Anyway….so Trump has 10 vocal people who he fired. who as a result of being fired decided they didn’t enjoy their employment that they previously had enjoyed.
and they are angry and can get paid to speak out against the person who fired them, rewriting history and lying.
is this uncommon in life?
Some dude
Whichever you choose to believe he’s a really inept boss if he hired all these people and they all refuse to work with him again.
"I only hire the best people, that is until they stop showing mindless fealty to me at which point they are the enemy within".
Blacklabel
Military officers at the flag level are not used to being criticized for poor performance and being fired.
especially by a civilian.
they don’t know how to handle that.
plasticmonkey
The Apprentice was fiction. It was scripted to make Donald Trump look like a savvy businessman.
Only schmucks believe that show reflected reality.
ok1517
@Bass,
want to tell them this here directly?
"None of these swamp establishment rats will ever be working in Washington, none of them would ever be elected to a lemonade stand, maybe write a book, that’s about it for these people and their sagging careers"
I can help you contacting them, no big deal!
Moonraker
There are numerous videos on Youtube about grandiose narcissists. Watch them and you will know all about Trump and his fragile ego. You will learn also about those who give him the narcissistic supply and how narcissists are easily manipulated by cleverer actors like, say, dictators from other countries.
Blacklabel
Dan Scavino had to post on X to tell all the disloyal swamp rats to stop contacting him asking for roles in the upcoming Trump administration.
even hater Mark Cuban, after his years of nonsense, is like oh sure I would work with Trump.
Bob Fosse
Wait, do you think he wrote ‘the art of the deal’? Really?
That explains a lot actually.
Some dude
*Dan Scavino** had to post on X to tell all the disloyal swamp rats to stop contacting him asking for roles in the upcoming Trump administration.*
And you have the nerve to accuse other people of posting biased sources!
Some dude
Wait, do you think he wrote ‘the art of the deal’? Really?
That explains a lot actually.
Just occurred to me that a number of the Trump Groupies on here speak of Trump the way that Patrick Bateman does in American Psycho...without realising that American Psycho is a satire.
bass4funk
Being beholden to the globalists
If he is, he’s so bad at, and doesn’t know the hell what he’s doing
Some dude
burgers and beersToday 11:08 am JST
Some media observe the Democrat campaign getting increasingly desperate and aggressive
To borrow an oft-used phrase from social media, "every accusation is a confession".
rcch
Some dudeToday 09:57 am JST “ It's more or less obvious now that MAGA literally wouldn't care if Trump called for a second holocaust. They're going to vote for him whatever he says.
It now just comes down to whether the people who oppose him are motivated enough to vote in large numbers. “
Extremely exaggerated comment (as always); and no—it all comes down to two questions: “ are you better off now than you were four years ago? “ and “ do you hate Trump more than you love your country? “—these are probably the two most important questions right now and something that millions of undecided voters (those who don’t like Trump) and sensible Democrats should be asking themselves.
plasticmonkey
That makes no sense.
Which “globalists” are Kelly, Romney, etc beholden to?
Wasabi
this man is dangerous for his country and the world
bass4funk
He did
Seems so from various sources
If he was, he truly was bad at iit, but next year he will appoint people that are not globalists but America first patriots
Wasabi
Reality vs TV, there is a big difference. If you can not understand it will explain you support to this... wannabe dictator.
Some dude
Extremely exaggerated comment (as always);
OK then. Have a trawl through the posting history of certain posters here and find me a single example where they admit that Trump was wrong about something. Anything. Absolutely anything at all.
There are people on this board who literally believe that every single thing Trump says and does is correct by the simple fact that Trump said or did them. They deny that he said things that he is on video saying. They deny things said by people who were physically present with Trump at the time.
Thus, these people are mentally incapable of discerning fact from fiction when it comes to Trump.
Norm
Yes, I read it when it first came out when I was in business school at university. I was impressed at the time, only to be disappointed years later when I found out that he didn’t actually write it.
We now know from his Twitter and TS posts that he’s about as literate as a three-day-old French fry.