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John
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time, felon.
As for your veiled “nice country you’ve got there. It’d be a shame if anything happened to it.” threat: bring it, sweetie.
I’M tired of the constant lying and whining about rigged this and that whenever you and your cult lose. (And they seem to lose a LOT!)
Trump’s goons talk a good game but when there’s real consequences, they slink away became like their cult lord, they are cowards.
Blacklabel
More left wing media propaganda here.
Joe Biden is so poor at his job that regular Americans donated 52 million dollars to a convicted felon in just 24 hours to support him do the job instead.
Cards fan
This isn't the threat Trump thinks it is. Violence over any possible prison prison would just remind people have awful the MAGA movement is, and how little respect they have for rule of law.
Regular Americans? Lmao try the 1%, and gullible idiots that make up his base.
Blacklabel
TikTok? The young people love Biden, right?
Trump joined and has 4 times as many followers now as Biden in just 24 hours.
man of the people.
Do you not support any convicted felons anymore?
and just pretend every verdict that hasn’t even entered the appeals process as just?
John
Sentencing for his THIRTY FOUR felony convictions is July 11th.
TikTok, indeed.
Blacklabel
Only 1% of the American people donated an amazing 52 million dollars in 24 hours….?
not mathematically possible.
John
Fools and their money.
And none of it is going to his election campaign. It’s all going to pay his legal bills.
Cards fan
Lol yes it is. I'd love to your proof.
wallace
Trump is thinking about or worried about jail time. He won't be jailed.
wallace
Trump donations end up in his pocket.
NOMINATION
Nope, the gullible ones are the ones that are right now acting fearful and whining about the him saying "breaking point."
Blacklabel
150 million right here! Trump going out to Silicon Valley this week to get lots more.
convicted felon gonna win from jail if he has to.
2020hindsights
And know that her husband betrayed her so utterly.
I'm not surprised. She hate the man. She most likely will vote Biden in November.
2020hindsights
Blacklabel
Well, she wasted $90 million last time, why not?
Not going to get much money from the tech bros...
Cards fan
Yes, from the 1%, just like I said. Yet you just claimed it's "mathematically impossible." Thanks for proving my point.
John
Fact Check: False. He’s about to crap himself with fear of being sentenced. That’s why he’s hinting at political violence.
bass4funk
What crime?
Half the country…yeah, it would be a shame.
Biden’s numbers are sickly bad so…
This is very different and the polls are showing that. When Republicans take back the White House and that will happen at some point, of course there will be a reckoning, a bit different what you might imagine, but significant to worry the left.
wallace
bass4funk
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time, felon.
The 32 he was found guilty of.
Poll Biden 41%. Trump 39%.
2020hindsights
bass4funk
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time, felon.
34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree. Try to keep up.
wallace
Many Republican voters have doubts about electing a felon. He goes into the election as a felon and his appeal will be after that.
NOMINATION
Which was? You are the fact checker around here.
Blacklabel
Cause no one has EVER been falsely convicted and imprisoned for political purposes by a corrupt regime, right?
2020hindsights
NOMINATION
The 32 he was found guilty of.
34 counts of falsification of business records in the first degree. Try to keep up.
Blacklabel
150 ADDITIONAL million. another story.
Not included in the 52 million in 24 hours from his regular people supporters.
2020hindsights
Blacklabel
Trump certainly wasn't.
dagon
I would argue that the Overton Window of the 'breaking point' of the American electorate has been distorted.
It used to be along such lines as slavery, gross abuse of civil rights and unjust wars.
Making up pretenses for war in 2003 and bailing out bankers for their malfeasance while many were rendered destitute brought about some pushback but changed little.
But the delusion of MAGA is a powerful drug that may drown out such realities.
funkymofo
To republicans, the people who don't blindly support the criminal candidate deserve violence. Weird how the family have no problem with him sleeping with a porn star and covering it up
wallace
Trump was convicted by the State of New York. Not the Federal Government.
Blacklabel
not even an appeal yet so how would you know? It’s all so premature cause you need it for the coming election. After that, you don’t even care.
got a long way to go here for history to decide this. Took decades for other people to be vindicated.
John
The THIRTY FOUR he was unanimously convicted of by a jury of his peers.
Do try to keep up.
Simon Foston
bass4funkToday 07:31 am JST
Sounds ominous.
What do you imagine, then.
If the Republican are sincere in their desire to work for the country and do what's right for the public why should anyone be worried?
John
Numbers as reported by Trump Campaign. Very likely as accurate as his self-reported crowd sizes.
This from the one who proudly admitted to being defrauded by Steve Brannon’s “We build the wall” grift.
lol.
bass4funk
What crime?
The misdemeanors? Oh…
What are you talking about? Lol
https://www.realclearpolling.com/polls/president/general/2024/trump-vs-biden
NOMINATION
Which your 2 favorite stations MSNBC and CNN said was great that it was in left wing NYC or he would have gotten off. CLEARLY there is nothing political here.
bass4funk
lol.
Wait, we have to believe this administration, the guy that thinks food prices are going down? ROFL!
2020hindsights
Blacklabel
Trump certainly wasn't.
Well, I can see that it isn't a corrupt regime. Simply because there has been no corruption.
It's not premature. Trump has been tried and found guilty. That's in the past.
This has nothing to do with this election. It's about election interference in the 2016 election.
Nope. History has already decided. First former president to be convicted of a felony.
Like the central park five? Trump still thinks they are guilty...
2020hindsights
bass4funk
Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time, felon.
What crime?
The 32 he was found guilty of.
Felonies. Try to keep up.
bass4funk
Could very well be.
A lot and to what shape or form that would take, not sure..
If the left were sincere in working with the Republicans and not trying to use the judicial system to take the leading opponent out, they would be taken seriously and at the same time putting their selfish interests and thirst to cling on to power to the side and let the chips fall where they may, but they won’t, so it will get worse, before pointing your finger at the right, look at the left first. Thanks.
bass4funk
What crime?
Misdemeanors
Keep up with what? You ok??
John
This displays either a willful disingenuousness or a stunning lack of easily accessible information.
2020hindsights
bass4funk
Misdemeanors
Felonies. Try to keep up.
Try to keep up with the facts. They were felonies, not misdemeanours.
wallace
bass4funk
Misdemeanors don't have possible 20-year jail sentences.
John
It does indeed. But not in the way Trump’s rubes imagined.
It’s coming in multiple doses and the first one is scheduled for July 11th.
Blacklabel
See? It gets real (and censored) when actual names of convicted feelings (also good heroic people) who this same persecution happened to.
Bob Fosse
Does he have that long?
Blacklabel
The predicate crime (which has never clearly announced to this say) made expired misdemeanors into felonies.
what was THAT crime again?
Moderator
Readers, please don't become obsessed with this topic. Once you have made your point, please move on to other stories, otherwise...
John
Golly! You should tell the judge! I’m sure he never thought of that, lol.
This is standard NY State law.
That you don’t like it is irrelevant.
DaDude
^
John
When “What’s the crime?” Is your only talking point, you’re really scrapping through the bottom of the barrel.
2020hindsights
Blacklabel
Actually, it was.
The predicate crime is "to conspire to influence an election through unlawful means".
bass4funk
Actually, it’s the other way around, the Democrats once don’t seem to get that their greedy actions will cost them. Because of that it’s the reason why we got 3 conservative justices on the bench and now they’re doing it again, and I love it. Lol
Simon Foston
BlacklabelToday 07:36 am JST
Probably not the kind of revenge Trump has in mind.
No, because he's only been found guilty of white collar crimes, he can appeal as you keep pointing out and even if he does end up in jail (highly unlikely) he might still get elected president. How many leftists' heroes do you think were so fortunate?
Blacklabel
So ledger entries with the wrong category in 2017 influenced a 2016 FEDERAL election?
so states control federal elections now and time machines are real?
itsonlyrocknroll
Here is the reasoning, the root cause behind this corrupt abuse of the sanctity of the US Justice system.
Dems in full-blown ‘freakout’ over Biden
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/28/democrats-freakout-over-biden-00160047
This gross misuse of the US judicially is laid bare........
No Judge Will Overturn Donald Trump's Conviction—Alan Dershowitz
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-hush-money-guilty-alan-dershowitz-1906841
2020hindsights
bass4funk
When “What’s the crime?” Is your only talking point, you’re really scrapping through the bottom of the barrel.
You got the 3 conservative justices on the bench because of the crimes in this trial. Just setting the record straight.
2020hindsights
Blacklabel
The predicate crime is "to conspire to influence an election through unlawful means".
No.
Yes.
No.
OssanAmerica
Trump needs to be incarcerated. He has no sense of truth, remorse, acceptance or respect for law and order. Being afraid of Trump supporters as a reason to not apply the rules of justice as applied to others is simply giving in to the threat of violence. Being afraid of retribution is exactly what has brought this country to where it is today.
The more we give in, the more Trump demands and we have done this since 2016. It has "normalized" actions and behavior that would have been intolerable in the past, even among Republicans.
If the brainwashed MAGA crowd want to try and overturn our justice system, let them. Like the Jan 6th insurrectionists, they are acting against the United States, They are domestic terrorists and should be treated and prosecuted as such.
And for those who are mentally challenged enough to want a convicted felon to be the next President of the U.S., how is Trump suppose to fulfill his duties? 37 countries prohibit the entry of convicted felons into their countries. And that even includes the United States.
Blacklabel
many. They have statues and holidays and were elected to political offices post conviction and became champions.
Generally seen as heroes now by nearly all.
Blacklabel
what serious country would deny entry to the sitting president of the United States of America?!
John
No serious person gives a hoot what Alan Dershowitz has to say.
He has thoroughly discredited himself amongst his legal peers and is views akin to Rudi with people who’ve known him for decades asking “What happened to Alan?”
bass4funk
?
wallace
Trump joins the 800+ felons found guilty from Jan 6.
funkymofo
What serious country would entertain the idea of electing a convicted criminal, guilty of attempted election interference into office.
John
Normally I would agree, however…
Given that the crimes were intended to effect the outcome of an election, that the convict treated the court and the process with such disdain, and given the total lack of remorse on the part of the convict, I don’t think a sentence of incarceration is out of the question.
John
We’d have to elect an adjudicated rapist, an adjudicated fraudster, an insurrectionist and now an adjudicated felon to find out.
Really really sound rhetoric, lol.
stormcrow
Well, Trump is a convicted felon now. Some argue that it helps him, but they've got to be trying to fool themselves if they actually believe that.
No, it looks like the Republican Party has placed their bets on the wrong candidate. A jury of 12 different U.S. citizens from the state where the crimes were committed decided that Trump was guilty. It wasn't rigged as Trump claims, but quite fair. The only rigging going on has been vice versa, and it's Trump who's been the one trying to rig things so that things would fall his way.
Simon Foston
bass4funkToday 08:08 am JST
Hm. Sounds like you think it's okay to threaten political opponents.
I think you are sure but don't want to be specific because you know it'll just be tit for tat retaliation that makes the Republicans look just as petty and vindictive as you make their opponents out to be.
That's about as much as I could decipher.
2020hindsights
Blacklabel
* 37 countries prohibit the entry of convicted felons into their countries. And that even includes the United States.*
Don't worry, Biden isn't a felon.
Blacklabel
MY country.
so which stupid country would actually block President Trump to enter?! Nobody that dumb,
Peter Neil
the judge is now receiving death threats from maga world. it's being fueled by blatant lies by fox news that the judges jury instructions were flawed. blatant lies to enrage viewers and people.
the instructions were not what fox is spreading. completely false information.
tearing down the judicial process by lies and threats of violence is a sick twist, even by trump's standards.
lincolnman
In MAGA-world, when it comes to violent insurrections and armed mobs, the old saying applies; "If at first you don't succeed try, try again"....
Try to destroy our democracy and Constitutional majority rule - and replace it with an authoritarian despot and dictator, just like those rulers in Russia and China they admire so much...
As for his supporters "breaking point", I imagine their wealth broke years ago from the constant scams and grift..
Financially, morally, and lawfully, in MAGA-world, bankruptcy is a way of life...
Blacklabel
He got 200 million in donations in 3 days and is worth 7 billion dollars.
next.
wallace
MAGA is morally bankrupt.
Bob Fosse
The Dems? You really should slow down a bit.
Anonymous
Even now, after his conviction for crimes which would not have been crimes in another courtroom, Democrats are afraid of Trump. Now there is no telling what Biden’s handlers wouldn’t do to keep Trump out of the race. And posters here have the nerve to quote the Democratic Party line that their opponent is a “threat to democracy”.
zibala
Non-US citizens might have this perception.
Moonraker
Don't the Republicans regard themselves as the party of law and order? I guess they won't be happy with a convicted conman leading them into elections. Or is this another principle that can be twisted and disregarded when the time suits? Do they really have any principles at all?
John
He’d have to win to find out. Until then he’s former president and I think all of them.
lincolnman
Keep running up those charge cards MAGA warriors...there's always Chapter 13...
ROFL... He can't even pay his BFF Giuliani the $2 million he owes him...
Jail...
Kaowaiinekochanknaw
Q: Do we have a Republic or a Monarchy?
A: A Republic - If we can keep it.
Didn't age well.
Banana, banana, banana
wallace
zibala
Trump was convicted by the State of New York. Not the Federal Government.
Do you believe this wasn't a State conviction?
John
As self-reported, so there’s that.
As of this moment he’s spent most of his donations on legal fees. He has no on the ground operations. He has no money.
And he is still way behind with no real possibility of catching up even IF the tech bros decide that Fascism isn’t really that bad.
Oh, and of that (claimed paper wealth of) 7 billion, he’s never spent a dime on his own campaign. He did LEND 10 million the first time around and made sure he was repaid via rube donors.
Amount spent by Trump electing Trump: $0
Gene Hennigh
All the usual suspects saying all the usual stuff. But this isn't usual. The debate isn't if Mr. Trumps fans will vote for him but can he legally run. I personally don't like him or Biden but we are treading on dangerous ground with this verdict. Rationally, without taking sides of the personality, we should be discussing the ramifications of the candidacy. The right might not like it, but when the question of about a Democrat they won't be able to stop that one, either. Clearheaded debate, not insults and tirades, should be what we do about the issue.
bass4funk
Quite the opposite.
Yes
No, we are proud to support the convicted Felon.
Yes, and despite whatever tricks the left do, it’s not working
wallace
bass4funk
MAGA is morally bankrupt.
After Trump's convictions, MAGA supporters were threatening violence and riots, again. (Jan 6).
Blacklabel
it can’t be, of a federal election crime.
why was the #3 guy of Biden’s DOJ assigned there?
appeals court here we come.
lincolnman
I enjoy seeing how desperate and defeated our MAGA friends here are....arguing that Trump's convictions make him "more popular" and that sending him off to a cell will just "make him stronger"....
With that tortured reasoning, Dave DePape, the MAGA-warrior who took a hammer to 82 year old Paul Pelosi, will be an icon...when he's released from his cell IN 30 YEARS...
MAGA-world is the pure definition of a cult - in its most radical and violent form...
itsonlyrocknroll
The victim is undoubtably the US system of Justice system from political corruption, the danger that future politicians will not weaponize the judiciary to interfere in the democratic process.
This is truly an appalling precedent. Trump jailed to remove him from campaigning.
wallace
Blacklabel
Do you believe this wasn't a State conviction?
it can’t be, of a federal election crime.
why was the #3 guy of Biden’s DOJ assigned there?
appeals court here we come.
Trump was found guilty of 34 charges in the Manhattan state court in New York City, U.S. May 30, 2024,
bass4funk
No, that’s the reason why I’m so against what the left is doing to conservatives and this former president
Of course, but that’s what the Dems wanted. As they say, careful what you wish for.
True.
John
It’s really a shame this one never went to law school. They’d have been an unending source of mirth for their fellow students and professors alike.
Violations of federal elections can, in this case are also violations of state election law, Perry Mason.
Peter Neil
BlacklabelToday 09:30 am JST
all elections are state elections, even for national office.
people are electing state electors.
that’s 5th grade civics.
Bad Haircut
This whole circus is backfiring on the Democrats big time. It's resulted in ordinary people digging into their packets and making huge numbers of small donations to the Trump campaign. And the donations will only continue to grow as the Democrats double-down on their dastardly deeds - they can't help it.
And according to lawyer Robert Barnes in an interview on the Tom Woods Show a couple of days ago, the Democrats' case against him was built on a concoction of BS (my paraphrasing) in an attempt to get Trump by any means necessary.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB0UtOpoq8A
Jimizo
Narrowly edging out Richard Nixon?
The alternative media world is something to behold.
owzer
Trump 2024!!!
He can serve from house arrest in Mar-a-Lago.
sunfunbun
The convict speaks.
FeloniesRUs. No breaking point, ur what ur.
John
So, 2-3 years beyond MAGA education attainment…
Bad Haircut
But still serving!
Raw Beer
They went after Trump for many years and this is the best they've got! He's the cleanest US ex-president/president in recent history.
The US justice system is a joke; they're in no position to criticize how Russia allegedly mistreats their candidates.
lincolnman
Sure, he could even serve from his cell at Rikers Island...
He can invite his BFFs Putin and Xi for a Summit...they could be on one side of the screen in the visiting room, and Trump behind the screen in the other...
And given most of his former staff and lawyers will already be behind bars, it will make staff meetings so much easier...
Hannibal Lector for Attorney General?
plasticmonkey
No matter how many times this is repeated, it is still 100% pure baloney.
Trump is a con man. Always has been. And now that he’s a convicted FELON, he’s conning his supporters in a whole new way.
And using that old dog whistle to ready his cult mob, pitchforks and scaffolds and all.
A threat.
Trump was convicted by a jury of his peers, who were vetted and approved by Trump’s lawyers. The only people wishing for vendettas are you and your MAGA pals.
John
or (more likely) he could go to prison and not be president.
plasticmonkey
Because you’re completely in thrall to Trump. Any level-headed person can see that the trial was fair.
2020hindsights
Ramsey's Kitchen
Wild accusations. We may believe you, if you were able to back it up with evidence. But you can't.
It never went. If Trump is elected president, you can kiss that goodbye.
Blacklabel
huh? Then there are no would be no “federal” elections at all then??
then why is there a “Federal Election Commission”?
5th grade civics called, it’s for you, pick up on line 1.
bass4funk
When Trump is back in office will the left think the system is just?
Neither will happen.
No, it’s 100% fact. Take the blinds off and look at the players.
Whatever, the diatribe sounds like desperate whimpers of a sheep heading to the slaughterhouse. Proud to vote for the convicted felon who’s still alive and kicking.
The libs are always ready, so much so that they have proven how far they will go. They will burn down a church or a police station, or run the streets and hoping they can find unarmed conservatives to beat down, one of them thankfully managed to wield a firearm and blow half the arm of his Marxist attacker. Ok, so both sides are ready.
Seems like when Schumer told Trump to be carful on how he deals with our intel agencies they have many ways of getting back. That sounded like a threat back then.
In NYC one of the bluest states, a state that didn’t vote for him.
You believe that, I believe that Adam Schiff and Swalwell are secret Republicans and Pelosi is a Fox News contributor
Desert Tortoise
My strong suspicion is that Judge Merchan will sentence Mr. Trump to the maximum allowable fines and probation during which he will be required to perform a few to several hundred hours of community service. Make him do community service with the people he disparages most, immigrants, the poor, LGBTQ, Hispanics and African Americans. Make him serve these groups and deal with them face to face. He just might learn something and maybe even gain a teeny tiny bit of humility. I would also have him spend a couple of weekends scrubbing the floors and bathrooms of the Lower Manhattan Courthouse, with an African American supervising him. No reporters, no cameras.
Desert Tortoise
If he wins the election he wins the election. Simple. People will be unhappy if, like his 2016 win he lost the popular vote but won the Electoral College Vote but like 2016 and 2000 with Shrub, people will have to accept the result. There won't be any violence.
I frankly do not think he will win but if he does he does.
nishikat
It's time to dump Trump and get a new Republican presidential candidate? If you look at the careers and lives of people around Trump ruined. Also, Trump is bankrupting himself and people like Rudy and My Pillow Guy. Republicans, do the right thing. Get a different candidate. How about Mitt Romney or someone?
bass4funk
Yeah, none of that crap will be happening. But thanks to the Dems they once again opened the Pandora’s box to the same attacks happening to them in the future, so this is the new norm. They just couldn’t settle this at the ballot box, they had to use the justice system to get this guy and now it’s backfiring big time as we all knew it would and the more they try to pound this guy, the more popular he gets.
Desert Tortoise
The FEC doesn't run elections. Period. Full Stop. States and counties run elections. The FEC investigates accusations of candidates violating Federal election laws, primarily violations of campaign finance and reporting regulations, inaccurate, late or fraudulent reporting and the like.
But the FEC does not operate the polls or count the votes. In fact they have no involvement in the vote count. That is entirely up to the states and every state has different laws on how the vote is conducted, how the votes are counted and how the results are certified.
Moonraker
Lock him up and give his supporters a free one-way ticket to Russia. They seem like they would be more at home there. Maybe Russia can then give their prize asset asylum.
2020hindsights
bass4funk
The Dems haven't been involved, and this wasn't an attack. Trump committed crimes and now he is paying the price.
It won't happen to them, because they don't commit crimes. But if they do commit crimes, I'm more than happy for them to pay for it with convictions.
Bad Haircut
You're making the assumption that everyone in these groups thinks the same way, and obviously untrue. In fact there's a growing number of people in all these demographics, most notably among the Black and Hispanic populations, who are shifting their votes either to undecided or to Trump. So your proposal could end up putting Trump in direct contact with people who'd be overjoyed to meet him in person.
We all know the "No reporters, no cameras" bit would be impossible. And you can bet Trump would make mileage out of it, regardless of how truthful or otherwise his anecdotes from the experience would be.
bass4funk
Biden?
No, we are wondering why we are in Ukraine.
And the Grand Canyon is a myth.
By Democratic Biden supporting operatives.,
Until the Republicans are back in power.