Trump White House lawyers subpoenaed by Jan 6 probe grand jury

Sounds like Trump team worried Meadows will flip and cooperate with DOJ.

Then there are the people Donald stiffed, giuliani , eastman, sydney....... all facing certain financial ruin, nothing convinces people to speak the truth more than the prospect of a certain bankruptcy!!!

Sounds like Trump team worried Meadows will flip

That won't happen.

and cooperate with DOJ.

Probably will, so did Bannon, it doesn't mean you're going to flip, you are just fulfilling your requested and required duty.

Crooks, criminals, swindlers, liars and cheats.

What else can you say about these people?

The 2 Pats and the drip drip drip.

Even a cursory examination of the facts and the recent movements involving the former guy and his failed coup attempt would qualify one for a book deal. So just to keep things simple:

*The DOJ is looking at Trump as a target even if they are not using that term.

*Privilege will not hold up in court. The Crime-Fraud Exception trumps (wish there were a different word) bogus claims of privilege as no one is above the law.

*The facts and the law dictate that he will most likely be indicted.

I don't say WILL because I don't know and anyone who claims they do is foolish, needs meds or both (withholding commentary here.). However, given what is provable in the public record, it would seem that Don's ability to grift, lie and deflect has nearly run its course, much like his sychophant Alex Jones.

Crooks, criminals, swindlers, liars and cheats.

What else can you say about these people?

Quite a lot, but it would get one moderated.

Thank you for the concise summation!

Crooks, criminals, swindlers, liars and cheats.

What else can you say about these people?

Apologies but you did forget one very important descriptor: LOSER!

*The DOJ is looking at Trump as a target even if they are not using that term. 

We know this, but Garland is not dumb, he's not going to indict Trump knowing that decision would be the end of him and the Dems.

*The facts and the law dictate that he will most likely be indicted. 

Doubted. Again, I hope Garland does a Harry Reid because that would be opening up Pandora's box politically for the party. They say lighting doesn't strike twice, we shall see.

On a related note, one wonders what the 1/6 committee and the DOJ are going to do once it gets its hands on Alex Jones' phone records?

We know this, but Garland is not dumb, he's not going to indict Trump knowing that decision would be the end of him and the Dems.

Gonna pin this one. IF, (I want to say "when" but will resist) an indictment is dropped, we all KNOW that you will admit your error, right B?

That won't happen.

Happening right now!

Probably will, so did Bannon, it doesn't mean you're going to flip, you are just fulfilling your requested and required duty.

ROFL, bannon for all his bluster squealed a lot to the DOJ. He’s desperate to stay out of prison and will do anything to prevent that!

On a related note, one wonders what the 1/6 committee and the DOJ are going to do once it gets its hands on Alex Jones' phone records?

A lot of people sweating out there, there’s a lot of nasty stuff coming out, and not just about J6.

donald’s petty criminals are going away for a long long time.

We know exactly what you believe

On a related note, one wonders what the 1/6 committee and the DOJ are going to do once it gets its hands on Alex Jones' phone records?

Not a whole lot, more prime time rating flop.

Gonna pin this one. IF, (I want to say "when" but will resist) an indictment is dropped, we all KNOW that you will admit your error, right B?

No, because I will be elated when the Republicans do the same to the Dems, and let's see them comply.

Happening right now!

No, the man won't be, the Dems had 6 years to get what they could on Trump and nail him, it's not like they didn't but since they can't find anything after 6 years, they now all of a sudden want to indict Trump on what? Even some of the most prolific liberal lawyers are saying that indicting Trump on what the left has so far won't even come close to a criminal indictment.

Bass4,you did see what happens in Kansas,on Tuesday

No, the man won't be, 

Yes happening right now.

the Dems had 6 years to get what they could on Trump and nail him,

There are petty crimes and then there are coups!

And the important factor is that now is a LOSER ex-President desperately trying to rake in all the cash he can before he is sent to prison!

No, because I will be elated when the Republicans do the same to the Dems, and let's see them comply.

Standard B move for when it has no response. I call it the "Pee-Wee Herman I know you are but what am I" defense.

Oh and the inevitable move to look at ratings, as if that even mattered. And not for nothing, not only are the hearings being widely watched, they are having an effect including on Republican and ESPECIALLY Independent voters. Fully 79% of respondents think that Trump either broke the law or acted unethically.

And the idea that B's proclivities are not well-known is comedy gold.

I do sympathize with Donald though, the poor guy cannot even afford to buy a burial plot for his ex-wife.

It seems (and I wish I were making this up) that once she is interred there, the golf course can be classified as cemetery and qualify for various tax abatements.

Yes happening right now.

So the Dems want to go for a 3rd or 4th time now? I keep forgetting.

There are petty crimes and then there are coups!

Ok, so why is Garland mulling around?

And the important factor is that now is a LOSER ex-President desperately trying to rake in all the cash he can before he is sent to prison!

He's not going to prison, if that happens, the Republicans will do the same to Biden, Hunter, and maybe even Hillary. Again, let them try. The Dems think they can actually hold the House as well...yeah, ok...

Standard B move for when it has no response.

There was a response, but it doesn't fit the usual liberal narrative.

And not for nothing, not only are the hearings being widely watched,

Sure...

https://thehill.com/opinion/white-house/3528682-american-apathy-weak-ratings-for-jan-6-hearings-reveal-voter-priorities/

they are having an effect including on Republican and ESPECIALLY Independent voters. Fully 79% of respondents think that Trump either broke the law or acted unethically. 

Who, which poll, how many conservatives vs liberals were polled, which State, which demography?

Yes?

So the Dems want to go for a 3rd or 4th time now? I keep forgetting.

Not a surprise , counting isn't a right wing thing!!

Ok, so why is Garland mulling around?

He isn't!

He's not going to prison, if that happens, the Republicans will do the same to Biden, Hunter, and maybe even Hillary

ROFL, Donald is going to prison ! Though his strategy now seems to be blame it all on rudy, sudney, eastman...

Not going to work because all of them are cutting deals right now!!!

There is one thing, a FEW THINGS actually, that none of Trump's supporters can deflect, deny, morally equivocate or whatabout. It's the following:

There was no organized or wide-spread voter fraud in 2020. Zero, Zilch, Zip, Nada, Nil, None. No millions of "illegals", no bamboo ballots, no Italian military satellites, no Hugo Chavez interfering from beyond the grave.

2020 was a free and fair election and Trump lost by 7 million votes.

Donald Trump was laughed out of court 60 times at the circuit, appeals and supreme court levels. BECAUSE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

Trump attempted to subvert the election of GA (that investigation is on-going).

Trump conspired to get a group of "Fake Electors" (They actually used that term. I know, right?) submitted. That is not legal.

Trump pressured is own VP to do what was illegal.

Trump conspired to unleash a mob based on a lie to overthrow a co-equal branch of government based on a lie. That is called a coup.

And for 187 min. while his idiot rubes were trying to kill his VP and overthrow American Democracy, HE WATCHED FAUX.

These are facts that are in the record and are not in doubt.

Again, I will not confidently predict an indictment prior to it being issued (although I agree with Ulysses) but as I have said before, THERE WILL BE A RECKONING for this. Oh yes, there WILL be a reckoning.

And no amount of deflection or equivalence on a local website comment thread is going to change that.

@Nemo

I suppose I could've added slippery eels to the list.

Not a surprise , counting isn't a right wing thing!! 

Apparently, not for the left as well considering the rising 9.0% inflation rate they created.

He isn't!

Then indict him. The Dems had 6 years and nothing, they have nothing, if they did they would, but Garland knows he will be working with an all-Republican congress and he knows what awaits him and the other Dems, so please, make the move.

ROFL, Donald is going to prison !

Yeah, been hearing that since 2015 over and over and over.....

ROFL, Donald is going to prison ! Though his strategy now seems to be blame it all on rudy, sudney, eastman...

Not going to work because all of them are cutting deals right now!!!

To this point, as I type this, Trump lawyers are meeting with the DOJ to see if they can apply privilege (They can't. They wiill litigate it but every legal expert seems to think they will fail.)

So, deflect, create false equivalences and whatabout all one wants. This is moving forward NOW.

Jan 6th. how quaint. Isnt this over yet?

Where is the subpoena/invitation for the Secret Service guys who can contradict the false testimony?

Liz Cheney had to call Daddy out of retirement to frantically try to keep her job.

There was no organized or wide-spread voter fraud in 2020. Zero, Zilch, Zip, Nada, Nil, None.

WE keep hearing that.

Trump conspired to get a group of "Fake Electors" (They actually used that term. I know, right?) submitted. That is not legal. 

Hmmm...The Dems keep saying that.

Trump conspired to unleash a mob based

He also told them to go home peacefully and respect law enforcement for the record.

And for 187 min. while his idiot rubes were trying to kill his VP and overthrow American Democracy, HE WATCHED FAUX. 

What about the 1500 hours of footage that we didn't view, will that come up and be allowed?

These are facts that are in the record and are not in doubt. 

One-sided, but that's the Dems version, no cross-examination.

Again, I will not confidently predict an indictment

Hardly.

To this point, as I type this, Trump lawyers are meeting with the DOJ to see if they can apply privilege 

He doesn't have to.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/07/19/garland-memo-trump-indictment-election/10097439002/

Fake electors sounds like banana republic stuff.

Here is something to note:

Of all the whatabout deflections without a counter argument or any evidence to the contrary, there was ONE area that Silly B "conveniently forgot" to whatabout. It was this little nugget:

2020 was a free and fair election and Trump lost by 7 million votes.

So one Silly B can what about. The other Silly B huffs and puffs. But TRUMP LOST.

Apparently, not for the left as well considering the rising 9.0% inflation rate they created.

Off-topic. And I can easily demolish any ill-informed argument about the economy!!!

Then indict him.

Oh I will for sure!

Yeah, been hearing that since 2015 over and over and over.....

If you hear things, then consulting a psychiatrist is suggested, before it gets too late!!!

Donald's choice is between going to prison or blaming it on others, including his children.

don jr, eric and even jared are worried donald will sell them to the prosecutors,

ivanka is safe for now, but then you never know!!!

Fake electors sounds like banana republic stuff

Trump and those who follow his stolen election crap clearly see the US as a banana republic.

Trump outlined election fraud against him in three different elections.

Not surprising that many posters here who hold that country in such low regard don’t live there anymore.

A pity. The US is a fine country.

donald cost his party the House, the White House and the Senate in a single term and now his coup attempt has left the RNC stuck in state and federal investigations. There is so much money going into defending donald that candidates don't have much to fight elections.

This is no ordinary LOSER, he is the LOSER of LOSERS!!!

The Justice Department investigation into the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection and into the efforts to overturn the election has been proceeding alongside a separate probe by a House committee, which has held several public hearings, including in prime time.

Two witch hunts.

Separate brooms.

Probably because it's true and proven to be true. Note that Silly B does not provide evidence or even an assertion that it is anything other than true. It just "doubts"

If it is true, then why do we hear one side? That is not how democracy works (at least in the US)

Oh those pesky e-mails that have been made public!

None of the phone records and why? These are public documents. Why take snippets to support only your side?

After telling them to "fight like hell"

That is correct and for the record and again, if you want to be fair and considerate of the overall facts, the man did say to leave peacefully and this is where Garland will run into a brink wall. Since on record Trump called for the people to leave peacefully and to abide by law enforcement, there is no way that they can prove Trump was supporting the trespassers breaking into the Capitol

When (Oh sorry "IF") an indictment is dropped, his legal team will get access

NO, we the public want to see those tapes now, it's public property and you think we just have to swallow the Dems words on that? Yeah, sorry.

This has been the Unicorn argument of his rubes since about 1/7.

Yes, because of its partisan makeup.

donald cost his party the House,

And now he's on the verge of a return.

the White House and the Senate

The way Biden is doing now for his party.

in a single term and now his coup attempt has left the RNC stuck in state and federal investigations.

No coup, but trespassing, and the Dems have 4 months left before handing over the keys and gavel to McCarthy. Now the Dems will be the ones to lose and big.

This is going on longer than the expisodes of “Dallas”. It’s boring. 49% of Americans got a little angry because of democracy. This is why the Chinese system is far superior.

Off-topic. And I can easily demolish any ill-informed argument about the economy!!!

No, not if you go by the leading economists that are outside of the WH.. 

Oh I will for sure!

Will never happen

If you hear things, then consulting a psychiatrist is suggested, before it gets too late!!!

That is the best recommendation going into November for the Democrats

No, not if you go by the leading economists that are outside of the WH.. 

The ones from trump University aren’t really economists.

Will never happen

Happening

That is the best recommendation going into November for the Democrats

Ha ha, November will be quite bad for the right wingers, attacking women doesn’t really pay, nor does mixing with racist dictators!!!

And now he's on the verge of a return.

Sure, prison is also a House, for prisoners!

The way Biden is doing now for his party.

He is still President, despite what your Q friends tell you.

No coup, but trespassing, 

ROFL, it’s an attempted coup and he will go down for it, the right wingers can pretend to be idiots but that’s what happened!!!

The ones from trump University aren’t really economists.

Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, take your pick.

Happening

Never.

Ha ha, November will be quite bad for the right wingers,

Because they could win over 38 seats? Yeah, really bad for them.

Sure, prison is also a House, for prisoners!

A lot of Dems could become some new tenants in a couple of months.

He is still President, despite what your Q friends tell you.

I sure hope the Dems remember that in the fall about their President

ROFL, it’s an attempted coup

There is zero proof of that, without weapons, so this is a civil coup? ROFL

Harvard, Stanford, Columbia, take your pick.

ROFL, so you believe in education now!

Never

Happening!!

Because they could win over 38 seats? Yeah, really bad for them.

ROFL, not only will the GOP lose, a lot of them are going to end up in prison.

living free rent forever it seems lol

A lot of Dems could become some new tenants in a couple of months.

You spelt trump followers wrong.

I sure hope the Dems remember that in the fall about their President

The dems do, not sure about your Q friends though.

There is zero proof of that, without weapons, so this is a civil coup? ROFL

Try looking up what a coup means, might educate you, ROFL!!!

ROFL, so you believe in education now!

I wish the Dems did

Happening!!

Never

ROFL, not only will the GOP lose, a lot of them are going to end up in prison.

Show me one poll where it says the Dems stand a high chance of retaining the House and that a lot of Republicans are going to prison, go ahead and take your time.