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This man [the judge], who looks like an angel, but he’s really a devil.” — Donald Trump, 31 May

“This was a rigged trial by a conflicted judge, who was corrupt. I’m a very innocent man. This was a rigged decision.” — Donald Trump, 30 May, shortly after his conviction on 34 counts of falsifying business records

Give him the maximum of four years of prison. According to Reuters, “Judges often look favorably on people who admit culpability and express remorse.” Trump has shown none.

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Give him the maximum of four years of prison.

I fear tossing Trump in jail might open the potential of his son Eric Trump being anointed as his father’s successor and thus being elected as the Trump base vehemently rallies to right the perceived wrong of the jailing of the senior Trump during the final months of the election.

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Criminals often do lash out at the justice system.

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Isn't that what all felons say, "I'm innocent."

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Felon Trump still opening his mouth?

Still attacking the criminal justice system?

Attacking the judge, the jury and everyone else you can think of?

Wasn't (isn't) there a gag order?

Finally do what has to be done, don't wait until 11 July!

Send him to where he belongs - Rikers Island!

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Poor Trump. Sounds like he's about to cry.

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with fierce attacks on the judge who oversaw the case, the prosecution’s star witness and the criminal justice system as a whole.

Te=he former billionaire has long been accustomed to the two-tier system of justice in which he and his billionaire (actual and paper) cohorts US and foreign were able to get their way in courts, buying judges and bullying the underclass they disdain. Now some of those billionaires might turn on the election-denier in chief, aka Felonius Drumpf, because this trial has exposed the dirty dealings the billionare oligarchs long been able to get away with, making it more difficult for them to continue their grifting ways. MAGAs are upset because their cult leader was just shown to be subject to the laws of America; maybe some will learn that falsification of records and election interference are inappropriate and that even some of their idols are subject to the laws of the land. The RF must look mighty good to them now, where its tsar is not subject to laws of the land, and is also much richer than the previous guy, plus also has the same lack of human decency, and the same political/religious belief system based on what more can I take without having to give back.

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Trump has portrayed himself as a passionate supporter of law enforcement and has even talked favorably of officers handling suspects roughly. But he has spent the last two years attacking parts of the criminal justice system as it applies to him and raising questions about the honesty and motives of agents and prosecutors.

Trump loves hanging judges when they quickly round up and sentence minority youth.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65197862

Trump loves FBI G-men except when they are investigating him. Then the FBI are all deep state far left Marxists.

Trump loves the police except when they are fighting against a mob of his riled up supporters trying to overturn an election result.

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Trump shouldn't mind being a convicted felon so much. It's a distinction he shares with the "late, great" Hannibal Lecter.

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Poll post-court. Biden 41%. Trump 39%.

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amazing poll for a convicted felon, isn’t it??

Where’s the other 20%? 41 to 39 nationally, non convicted felon Biden loses.

was it a reliable poll? Or a leftist one?

Convicted felon Trump is back on the campaign trail now with more energy than ever. Team lib has really messed up. Bad.

convicted felon Trump 2024!

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Trump called his former fixer, the star prosecution witness in the case, “a sleazebag," without referencing him by name.

Who hired the sleazebag, or was the previous guy sleeping again?

MAGAs seem proud to be victimized by the victim-in-chief. Keep sending him money then complain about the cost of living. A collective disease in the minority MAGA community, don't let it dpread further.

Some people who take on the role of victim might seem to enjoy blaming others for problems they cause, lashing out and making others feel guilty, or manipulating others for sympathy and attention. But, Botnick suggests, toxic behavior like this may be more often associated with narcissistic personality disorder.

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Everyone deserves a fair trial. Mr. Trump has had his. The jury found him guilty. That is the American way. There are those on the right who want to change that as they wave the American Flag as if they own it.

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Putin must be full of glee at the way his protege and the "patriotic" rabid mob he also orchestrates are tearing at the fabric of the USA. Guess where Trump's first overseas trip will be, if he gets in.

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It ,you have no knowledge of American law,this a NY State charge,the Feds have no jurisdiction in this case,name one appeal court rules that this court was rigged

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Another Trump first, the first convicted former president.

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This is the case Trump should have won. The remaining three cases are more serious.

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Poll post-court. Biden 41%. Trump 39%.

It’s actually a bit scary. This absolute devotion to their favored leader, the crying when he was convicted. He’s not a god… so many delusional people out there.

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Putin must be full of glee at the way his protege and the "patriotic" rabid mob he also orchestrates are tearing at the fabric of the USA. 

Putin was full of glee during the Obama-Biden administration, when he invaded Crimea. He was full of glee during this Biden--what's her name administration when he invaded Ukraine.

Putin was full of restraint during the Trump administration, and did not invade Ukraine.

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All this crazy nonsense media circus could have been avoided had Joe Biden chosen the ballot box over corrupting the US Justice system.

Joe Biden was always the anyone but Donald Trump candidate.

In many respects Joe Biden democrats emboldened Trump, through down the political gauntlet, created a platform propelling Trump to martyrdom.

The next travesty of justice will be the timing of the Judge Juan M Merchan sentencing July to coincide with Republican National Convention in Milwaukee.

There is no fool like and old fool, Joe Biden has brought this all upon himself.

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Felon Trump still opening his mouth?

It’s the U.S. of course he can.

Still attacking the criminal justice system?

He absolutely should corrupt as it is.

Attacking the judge, the jury and everyone else you can think of?

Justifiably as compromised as the judge was, you donate to the party that is persecuting the person who is running against the person you donated to.

Wasn't (isn't) there a gag order?

He’s convicted, who cares at this point, I wouldn’t especially you violate my 1st and 6th amendment rights

Finally do what has to be done, don't wait until 11 July!

Ahhh, just shred the constitution a bit more.

Send him to where he belongs - Rikers Island!

Yes, make him an even bigger martyr than he already is. Helps him a lot.

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Is it actually possible to get objective reporting on this site? Instead of just reporting the facts, thhis story is injected with the reporters' own biases:

...it’s unclear how the conviction and his rambling response...

In his disjointed remarks,...

He also blasted the judge in the case....

A proper report wouldn't include such loaded words as those highlighted, but unfortunately that's not possible for an establishment desperate to get Trump out of the way so they can carry on with ruining the country.

But with every biased report, with every phoney conviction, they're digging their own hole. Minorities whose votes the Democrats believe they're entitled to are tilting toward Trump in greater numbers as they tire of being diversity pawns and grow disgusted of the political establishment that pretends to represent them.

The Democrats' hubris will bring them down, and I can't wait to hear their howls of anger when they lose in November.

Of course Trump's far from flawless, but compared to his political opponents, he's a saint. That'S how desperate things have become.

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now here’s your treat, gooood boy.

The irony of Trump supporters who parrot everything dear leader says, mocking others for not being able to think for themselves.

A proper report wouldn't include such loaded words as those highlighted, 

Rambling is an apt description of his unhinged speech. He's all over the place.

But with every biased report, with every phoney conviction, they're digging their own hole. Minorities whose votes the Democrats believe they're entitled to are tilting toward Trump in greater numbers as they tire of being diversity pawns and grow disgusted of the political establishment that pretends to represent them.

lol Yes, sure they are.

Of course Trump's far from flawless, but compared to his political opponents, he's a saint. That'S how desperate things have become.

lmao This is complete nonsense. Explain how the fraudster, sex-assaulting, felon is a saint? Compared to who?

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Yes, make him an even bigger martyr than he already is. Helps him a lot.

Yes. It helps him so much that's why Trump supporters are whining about it.

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For such a tough guy, Don sure is a whiny little girl.

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For such a tough guy, Don sure is a whiny little girl.

Justifiably so. But on the good foot (James Brown) it’s helping him like a mug. lol

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For such a tough guy, Don sure is a whiny little girl.

Justifiably so. But on the good foot (James Brown) it’s helping him like a mug. lol

No, he has no cause. He got due process. He got counsel. He got the chance to question witnesses and present evidence. Coward that he is, he chose not to testify.

And a jury of his peers found him unanimously guilty of all counts.

He’s just a whiny little girl.

And no, it’s not going to help him because the majority of voters are members of his semi-literate cult.

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Donald Trump sought to move past his historic criminal conviction on Friday and build momentum for his bid to return to the White House with fierce attacks on the judge who oversaw the case, the prosecution’s star witness and the criminal justice system as a whole.

Another brilliant legal move Donald - insult the judge who determines if you go to jail or not...at least he's consistent - consistently stupid...

While the guilty verdict has energized Trump’s base, fueling millions of dollars in new campaign contributions,

In MAGA-world, there's not one born every minute, it's every second...

“I’m willing to do whatever I have to do to save our country and save our Constitution. I don’t mind,”

You know, like sleep with a porn star who he thinks "reminds him of his daughter", then illegally hide her pay-off...

“It’s a very unpleasant thing, to be honest,“ 

So said Stormy...

Trump said he had wanted to testify in his trial, a right that he opted not to exercise. 

Another "Mark my words" lie....coward. Too bad, he could have eclipsed his prior 450 "I plead the 5th" record...

Melania Trump, who has been publicly silent since the verdict, was not seen.

Busy meeting with her lawyers...deciding whether to sue for Mar-A-Lago, Bedminster, and Trump Tower...

Welcome to the MAGA-meltdown...

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To all the Trump haters here: do you seriously think the Democrats give a damn about the average American or the betterment of the US in particular?

Yes.

Do I think the GOP, backed by the billionaires, and doing everything they can throttle democracy in the US, give a damn about the average American or the betterment of the US in particular? Hell no. They're in it to line their pockets, just like Donald J. Trump.

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Yes, make him an even bigger martyr than he already is. Helps him a lot.

Or, it doesn't.

You guys haven't been very good at predicting how things will go. I'm not too sure why you think any one other than MAGA extremists would take your predictions with credibility. The odds of this hurting the democrats are somewhere between zero, and none. Anyone who is offended by the conviction was never going to vote for the Democrats anyways, so this will not shift the needle towards Trump whatsoever. The only effect will see is louder right wingers, a more distressed Trump, and higher fundraising numbers. None of these will lead to winning the white house though. He's sunk.

Convicting Trump was the right thing to do, and threats of how the right wingers won't like it was never a valid reason to not to try the criminal for his crimes. It was just.

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Joe Biden use and abuse of the US constitution, the US justice system in such a open blatant corrupt manner has a singular compete contempt for the US electorate.

Whoa, a Qonspiracy with literally not a single piece of evidence to support it.

Of course MAGA will believe it, but the average American is going to want to see any evidence whatsoever before they accept it as being rigged. And remember, MAGA only makes up around 30% of the voters.

This is just more manufactured outrage from the right, the party of boys crying wolf.

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amazing poll for a convicted felon, isn’t it??

Some Americans really love their criminals. Especially those whining like a petulant child.

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You guys haven't been very good at predicting how things will go

I’ve been spot on. I said conviction on all counts, never wavered. They weren’t going to being a cause without rigging a predetermined outcome. Come on, man.

that was a Soviet type trial about a man, not a crime.

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Bottom line: I take a convicted felon (for ledger entries made my others) over a dude who is so far gone

And that says you side with crooks.

over a dude who is so far gone

lmao Trump can't even string two sentences together. What are you talking about?

convicted felon with 34 over creepy old guy all day long.

A convicted felon who also commits sexual assaults, who also watches you women change at his beauty pagent?

All the reasons you claim to support Trump over Biden are nonsense. Just say you love authoritarianism. That'll be true.

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Bottom line: I take a convicted felon (for ledger entries made my others) over a dude who is so far gone they won’t even bother to have a trial out of pity for his poor memory and mental..

Heh, your boy is swiftly falling into dementia. Look at how dejected he looked today. The odds of his mental fitness for four years of presidency are non-existent. Whomever he chooses as VP will end up being president.

Anyways, MAGA will choose Trump for sure. But remember, 20% of repupublicans were still choosing Haley two months after she dropped out, and BEFORE Trump was a felon.

You don't think normal law abiding citizens are going to want to have a felon leading them do you?

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I’ve been spot on. I said conviction on all counts, never wavered. They weren’t going to being a cause without rigging a predetermined outcome.

Nice re-writing of your history. You act as if we haven't been reading your posts.

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Blacklabel

You guys haven't been very good at predicting how things will go

I’ve been spot on. I said conviction on all counts, never wavered. They weren’t going to being a cause without rigging a predetermined outcome. Come on, man.

That's where you have been dead wrong. It was never a predetermined outcome.

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All this crazy nonsense media circus could have been avoided had Joe Biden chosen the ballot box over corrupting the US Justice system.

Joe won at the ballot box. Remember, Trump refused to accept that.

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Another ballot box in 5 months, look to the future not the past!

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I’ve been spot on. I said conviction on all counts, never wavered. They weren’t going to being a cause without rigging a predetermined outcome. Come on, man.

So what's the current conspiracy theory about how they corrupted 12 jurors, half of which whom get their news from Truth Social?

What you guys don't like is that in a forum where all facts are checked, and rhetoric was allowed, the people saw the evidence, and saw your boy was clearly guilty. Remember, half of these people were your team.

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Blacklabel

Bottom line: I take a convicted felon (for ledger entries made my others)

...that he knew about and was election interference.

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nope exactly what I said the whole time. It was obvious what the outcome would be.

Yes, we all knew what the outcome would be, due to the mountains of evidence.

I'm not sure why you think you're special for accepting that he was going to lose.

On and on. See ya at the ballot box and the appeals courts.

Happily!

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the judge with the paid daughter. The evidence allowed in and not. The testimony allowed and not. Objections sustained and not. The threat to Trump if he testified they could question anything in his whole life. The jury instructions.

And the convicted felon gets to appeal, if the appeals court even bothers to hear his case.

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depressed and dejected

I’m hyped! It’s game on, any Democrat is fair game now for the “Justice system” when we win. Fund raising through the roof. Even many trump haters on board the train now.

convicted felon Trump (hi Baby Soros and Huma) is gonna take the winner take all on November 5th.

after that no Democrat apologies accepted, no compromises, no let’s work together now. nothing. MAGA agenda and one overdue Democrat jail times.

the best revenge is success.

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It's not over until the Fat Man sings.

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No, he has no cause.

Yes, he has a cause.

He got due process. He got counsel.

No, he didn’t, he wasn’t even allowed to bring in witnesses that could show and provide documents countering the prosecution talking points.

He got the chance to question witnesses and present evidence. Coward that he is, he chose not to testify. 

He wasn’t, the objections were heavily towards the defense

And a jury of his peers found him unanimously guilty of all counts. 

In New York. You think Biden could get a fair trial in Texas, I live in Texas. If you think he could, then you’re not dealing with reality, but that could still happen.

He’s just a whiny little girl. 

Justifiably so

And no, it’s not going to help him because the majority of voters are members of his semi-literate cult.

He just raised close to $52 million in less than 24 hours. Again, the left dug themselves into a hole, arrest, make him a martyr and get him into office.

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It's not over until the Fat Man sings.

Absolutely

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after that no Democrat apologies accepted, no compromises, no let’s work together now. nothing. MAGA agenda and one overdue Democrat jail times.

So scary. I think all the democrats will just give up and not even bother voting after reading that. Your rage is so powerful!

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after that no Democrat apologies accepted, no compromises, no let’s work together now. nothing. MAGA agenda and one overdue Democrat jail times.

So, in other words, what MAGA has always been? What compromise has MAGA ever made? Nothing but clowns.

the best revenge is success.

Trump's never known success in his life. He'd be hawking fake Rolex's in battery park if he weren't born on third base.

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Nothing has changed. Americans still can’t afford groceries or gas. Wars still going on. Border still wide open. Crime and drugs rampant.

the people won’t care if Trump is a convicted felon (for biz documents) when it’s clear he can solve those and feeble decrepit Biden can’t.

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bass4funk

Attacking the judge, the jury and everyone else you can think of?

Justifiably as compromised as the judge was, you donate to the party

Donating to a political party is not illegal in the US. It isn't an indication of bias.

that is persecuting the person who is running against the person you donated to.

The Democratic party aren't persecuting Trump.

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the best revenge is success.

Like when Biden won in 2020!

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I’d like to know from Trump or any of his cult followers who else, besides Trump and his J6 insurrectionists, have been victimized by this so-called corrupt and weaponized judiciary.

So absurd.

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Nothing has changed. Americans still can’t afford groceries or gas. Wars still going on. Border still wide open. Crime and drugs rampant.

How were Americans doing in May, 2020?

Do you think their lives are better?

Shall we post some news articles and real (not alternative) facts from four years ago, hmmm?

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2020hindsights

Sometimes comment, opinions, humble, not papal bull are simply unpalatable to envisage as a plausible truth.

Fill your boots, Joes Bidens your man, I want to leave it at that, a debate has to have a number of point of view to become a debate.

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the people won’t care if Trump is a convicted felon (for biz documents) when it’s clear he can solve those and feeble decrepit Biden can’t.

Heh someone didn't see the SoTU! But you know who did? Independents and Trump haters.

I wonder how the debates are going to go between Biden and the convict...

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Can a felon president pardon himself? Not in this Hush-Hush case. Does not apply to State cases.

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Nothing has changed.

Sure it has. Before yesterday, the people voting for Trump would have been voting for a law-abiding citizen. Now they'll have to vote for a convicted felon (and rapist). MAGA are ok with that of course, but what percentage of the non-MAGA population do you think is ok with it?

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Nothing has changed. Americans still can’t afford groceries or gas.

Blame corporations that are raking in record profits, not the President.

Wars still going on.

The US isn't at war.

the people won’t care if Trump is a convicted felon (for biz documents) when it’s clear he can solve those and feeble decrepit Biden can’t.

It's clear? lmao The man doesn't have a plan. Watch one of his silly interviews. "The war in Ukraine would have never happened if I was in charge. I would have stopped it." Oh yeah, what's his plan? MAGA cultists can't be bothered with details, they just trust whatever the fraudster says. Hilarious.

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“I am very innocent!”

Yeah, right.

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liberals seriously gonna regret this.

Yeah, all of us leftist Marxist libs were in on this conspiracy. Expertly coordinated by Joe Biden, the criminal mastermind who is also senile. lol

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Trump should have read his Bible more.

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itsonlyrocknroll

2020hindsights

Sometimes comment, opinions, humble, not papal bull are simply unpalatable to envisage as a plausible truth.

Fill your boots, Joes Bidens your man, I want to leave it at that, a debate has to have a number of point of view to become a debate.

I have no problem with you having a point of view. But when it has no factual basis, I call it out.

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Attacking the judge, the jury and everyone else you can think of?

Not sure in your country, but in the U.S. you have the constitutional right to address the charges presented before by your accusers, he couldn’t, especially with the parameters the judge laid out.

Donating to a political party is not illegal in the US. It isn't an indication of bias.

In the U.S. you can do that, but you cannot sit as a presiding trial judge if you donated to him going after the his political opponent, the optics of that looks like you’re fighting your donors behalf who happens to be the sitting president, he would have at the very least recused himself.

The Democratic party aren't persecuting Trump.

Yeah, you can believe whatever you read over there, don’t tell me what I see or about the constitution, thank you

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liberals seriously gonna regret this.

Yeah, all of us leftist Marxist libs were in on this conspiracy. Expertly coordinated by Joe Biden, the criminal mastermind who is also senile. lol

Haha!

It's weird that they think that democrats would be afraid Biden might lose. He already trounced Trump in a landslide once, and that's before Jan 6th, abortion, E. Jean Caroll, and now a felony conviction.

Can any of you righties explain what specifically the Democrats should be afraid of?

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Sometimes comment, opinions, humble, not papal bullare simply unpalatable to envisage as a plausible truth. 

Fill your boots, Joes Bidens your man, I want to leave it at that, a debate has to have a number of point of view to become a debate.

Bingo.

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Yeah, all of us leftist Marxist libs were in on this conspiracy.

That is not the point. The Dems won’t be in power forever.

Expertly coordinated by Joe Biden, the criminal mastermind who is also senile. lol

You said it. Spot on.

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n the U.S. you have the constitutional right to address the charges presented before by your accusers, he couldn’t, especially with the parameters the judge laid out.

Those parameters are called 'the law', and you are correct, Trump was not allowed to act outside of them. And he was allowed to call whichever witnesses he chose, as well as cross-examine the witnesses against him, both of which he actually did.

It turns out, he was just really, really guilty you see.

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That is not the point. The Dems won’t be in power forever.

They will be at least another four and a half years.

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So what's the current conspiracy theory about how they corrupted 12 jurors

Never ask conspiracy theorists ‘how?’

It’s cruel.

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Like when Biden in 2020!

why you trapped in the past bro? Maybe cause you know the future isn’t so bright.

2020 is when people thought Biden was just a friendly old guy hiding in a basement just cause of COVID not mental deficiencies. who wouldn’t mean tweet so that was good enough.

the people NOW know what he is now. And they want gas and food and safety and border and no wars.

If convicted felon Trump can bring that, and he can, he wins. People would even accept that from a convict Trump they want it so bad.

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Never ask conspiracy theorists ‘how?’

It’s cruel.

Even the crickets are annoyed at how loud the crickets are.

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The campaign also began selling black “Make America Great Again” caps, instead of the usual red, to reflect a “dark day in history.”

My eyes rolled so hard I think I scored a strike.

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the people NOW know what he is now. And they want gas and food and safety and border and no wars.

Yes, they now know what an imcompetent idiot he is. Trump's silly plans would tank the economy.

https://www.axios.com/2024/05/08/trump-biden-2024-economy-inflation

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Trump cannot produce any evidence that the trial was a political one.

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Like when Biden in 2020!

why you trapped in the past bro?

Because you said:

the best revenge is success.

And I was pointing out how the Democrats got revenge against Trump in 2020.

Maybe cause you know the future isn’t so bright.

Why wouldn't it be? Trump already got trounced by Biden.

Remember, Biden is ahead by 11 million.

2020 is when people thought Biden was just a friendly old guy hiding in a basement just cause of COVID not mental deficiencies.

Heh, because he wasn't VP for 8 years, right?

Do you think he should instead hide out on the golf course like Trump?

the people NOW know what he is now. And they want gas and food and safety and border and no wars.

Interesting MAGA spin.

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why you trapped in the past bro? Maybe cause you know the future isn’t so bright.

Sir, there is plenty of sunlight at Rikers!

2020 is when people thought Biden was just a friendly old guy hiding in a basement just cause of COVID not mental deficiencies. who wouldn’t mean tweet so that was good enough.

Sir I disagree, Biden was an evil mastermind using space lasers to make MAGA stupid and he is succeeding. We need to beat him in 2024

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Those parameters are called 'the law', and you are correct, Trump was not allowed to act outside of them.

In NYC, not addressing Cohen and Stormy, well then he’s screwed.

And he was allowed to call whichever witnesses he chose,

He did and was denied

as well as cross-examine the witnesses against him, both of which he actually did.

He wasn’t because the judge kept denying his witnesses.

It turns out, he was just really, really guilty you see.

According to this sham farce trial, yes.

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No, he has no cause.

Yes, he has a cause.

Melania now has "bigly" cause...ROFL...

He got due process. He got counsel.

No, he didn’t, he wasn’t even allowed to bring in witnesses that could show and provide documents countering the prosecution talking points.

You know, like himself taking the stand...which he promised to do...then caved...

He got the chance to question witnesses and present evidence. Coward that he is, he chose not to testify. 

He wasn’t, the objections were heavily towards the defense

Huh?

And a jury of his peers found him unanimously guilty of all counts. 

In New York. You think Biden could get a fair trial in Texas, I live in Texas. If you think he could, then you’re not dealing with reality, but that could still happen.

Then why didn't his lawyer accept the jury members?

He’s just a whiny little girl. 

Justifiably so

BINGO!

And no, it’s not going to help him because the majority of voters are members of his semi-literate cult.

He just raised close to $52 million in less than 24 hours.

All from the people he calls "the great unwashed"....

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Trump cannot produce any evidence that the trial was a political one.

Now he can on appeal and the donations continue to raise, keep it up.

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In NYC, not addressing Cohen and Stormy, well then he’s screwed.

Yeah, he probably should have testified, right?

And he was allowed to call whichever witnesses he chose,

He did and was denied

Fake news. In the real world he was not denied.

He wasn’t because the judge kept denying his witnesses.

Fake news in the real world he was not denied.

According to this sham farce trial, yes.

Legitimate law and order trial, with only MAGA extremists pretending otherwise.

Now he can on appeal

Yes, the convicted felon can try to appeal, if the appeals court bothers to hear it.

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Even the crickets are annoyed at how loud the crickets are.

It’s stunning how the conspiracy theory mind works.

It’s like part of it has been surgically removed.

The ( what I thought was natural ) step to how just doesn’t happen.

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bass4funk

Those parameters are called 'the law', and you are correct, Trump was not allowed to act outside of them.

In NYC, not addressing Cohen and Stormy, well then he’s screwed.

His lawyers addressed Cohen and Stormy, so he wasn't screwed.

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Bottom line: convicted felon Trump 2024!

none of the actual issues giving him the lead all these months have changed.

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Michael.Colangelo

Yes. The prosecutor going after Trump is proof the trial was corrupt. Reeee

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Liberals don't understand. People would rather have Trump - even as a convicted felon - as POTUS than an incompetent, senile codger.

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Bottom line: convicted felon Trump 2024!

Now you're starting to get it :)

none of the actual issues giving him the lead all these months have changed.

So you think the people will be ok with voting for a convicted felon? Which percentage of non-MAGA voters will be ok with this do you think? 100%?

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Liberals don't understand. People would rather have Trump - even as a convicted felon - as POTUS than an incompetent, senile codger.

Then why didn't they elect him in 2020?

I think you got your spelling wrong, it's spelled 'MAGA', not 'People'. Bit of a Freudian slip on your part maybe.

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owzer

Liberals don't understand. People would rather have Trump - even as a convicted felon - as POTUS than an incompetent, senile codger.

Luckily those aren't the choices and they can vore

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Yeah, he probably should have testified, right?

Yes, without any restrictions.

Fake news. In the real world he was not denied.

Wrong, he was denied. None of his witnesses were allowed to testify..

Fake news in the real world he was not denied.

Wrong, he was denied. None of his witnesses were allowed to testify...

Legitimate law and order trial, with only MAGA extremists pretending otherwise.

Denying an American their first and 6th amendment rights???? Ok?

Yes, the convicted felon can try to appeal, if the appeals court bothers to hear it.

They will

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..vote for Biden.

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So you think the people will be ok with voting for a convicted felon?

yep not an issue when he is bringing cheaper consumer prices and national security.

people vote for their families and their wallets. Nobody cares about some ledger entries compared to peace and prosperity.

too bad most of you can’t vote cause that’s where the final battle is, the ballot box in 2024.

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For someone who is yet to be sentenced, Trump doesn't seem to be showing a lot of remorse.

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His lawyers addressed Cohen and Stormy, so he wasn't screwed.

To a limit, they were not allowed to play some of his incriminating words or the words that Stormy said about Trump, so he was most definitely screwed. Please stop watching the BBC.

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bass4funk

His lawyers addressed Cohen and Stormy, so he wasn't screwed.

To a limit, they were not allowed to play some of his incriminating words

Incriminating? It's Trump on trial here, Cohen, not Stormy.

or the words that Stormy said about Trump,

Blame his lawyers here - they could have and should have objected.

so he was most definitely screwed.

Not screwed.

Please stop watching the BBC.

I'm not.

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To a limit, they were not allowed to play some of his incriminating words or the words that Stormy said about Trump, so he was most definitely screwed.

Fake news. In the real world he was allowed to question the witnesses, and call his own, with all the same rights afforded to the central park 5.

Please stop watching the BBC.

Please stop watching Fox (Fox lies you know).

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So you think the people will be ok with voting for a convicted felon?

yep not an issue when he is bringing cheaper consumer prices and national security.

What percentage, do you think it's 100%?

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Liberals don't understand. People would rather have Trump - even as a convicted felon - as POTUS than an incompetent, senile codger.

Some people would rather have Trump. This is not a pedantic point as our conspiracy theorists are claiming the jurors don’t want Trump. It goes without saying they don’t have any evidence of how they were corrupted, but these jurors are against Trump nevertheless.

As for senile codgers, Trump though be beat Obama and regards Biden as a worse president than Jimmy Connors and thinks Nikki Pelosi was responsible for January 6th or something like that.

I can’t claim to have read half of the books written on the subject of metal decline but that’s very concerning.

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If you think;

It's "great" Trump was convicted on 34 felony counts...

He should be sentenced to jail since that would "make him stronger"...

You're "proud" he's a convicted felon...

You may be MAGA-deluded....

Seek medical (mental health) help...

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Blacklabel

Then why didn't they elect him in 2020?

people knew nothing about Biden then. Just a friendly gaffe prone old man who followed Obama around.

He's been in politics for over 50 years and people knew nothing about him?!

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yep not an issue when he is bringing cheaper consumer prices and national security.

So like who cares about the father selling illegal drugs or knocking off liquor stores as long as the proceeds go towards his children?

10 ( +10 / -0 )

Yeah, he probably should have testified, right?

Yes, without any restrictions.

Why should he get special rights the Central Park 5 weren't afforded? Testifying without restrictions is not a right afforded to any client. Do you think Trump should have been treated specially and differently from all other Americans?

Wrong, he was denied. None of his witnesses were allowed to testify..

Fake news. In the real world they were allowed.

Denying an American their first and 6th amendment rights???? Ok?

Fake news. In the real world he was not denied this right.

They will

Or they won't.

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first time Trump has had the majority vote, 100% majority, not even Putin gets it that good

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*thought he beat

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Congratulations Donald....you just made your latest successful "catch and kill"....

You caught and killed your own Presidential campaign...

Caught and killed your third marriage too...

So much winning...

7 ( +7 / -0 )

He's been in politics for over 50 years and people knew nothing about him?!

He ran for President in 1988 and I remember he was a recurring character on SNL that year. Forget who played him, though.

7 ( +7 / -0 )

His lawyers addressed Cohen and Stormy, so he wasn't screwed.

To a limit, they were not allowed to play some of his incriminating words

Incriminating? It's Trump on trial here, Cohen, not Stormy.

He has the right to address accusers, period.

Blame his lawyers here - they could have and should have objected.

They did and were overruled..

Not screwed.

Screwed this is the reason why his donations are going through the roof

I'm not.

Hmmm.

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As he should.

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A whole lotta MAGA (present company excepted, of course) hasn’t been paying attention to politics for that long. It’s a fairly recent phenomenon in the grand scheme of things.

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Now he can on appeal

wrong not how the appeal process works, appeal courts go by what evidence was presented in the trial,

you cant just unilaterally present new evidence to the appeals court . If you had the evidence of innocence the defense should have presented it in the trial, cant cry over spilt milk now

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Screwed this is the reason why his donations are going through the roof

Sir, the poor are running out of money to donate, it’s up to billionaires like you and me to save Mr Trump.

Let’s cut a cheque of a million each.

Me, you and Blacklabel are the only true billionaires on JT and we need to save Mr. Trump!

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wrong not how the appeal process works, appeal courts go by what evidence was presented in the trial,

This is correct. The trial is concluded. Appeals courts may choose to review the trial documents but they do not allow additional evidence. At most they will accept that new evidence would require a re-trial. But they don’t add anything to the existing case.

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You caught and killed your own Presidential campaign...

Ha, ha, ha. Good one. Hysterical. Keep it up. This outcome will make no difference to people who hate Trump already but it may reduce Biden’s support among traditional liberal Democrats. They will see this trial as a cheap banana republic move to keep El Jefe Jose in power by jailing political opponents (Bragg is just a proxy). They will probably just not bother to tick the President/Vice President box on their ballot unless they put their mark next to RFK, Jr. who at least is fully conscious and has principles.

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They will probably just not bother to tick the President/Vice President box on their ballot unless they put their mark next to RFK, Jr. who at least is fully conscious and has principles.

Wise words sir, principles is what Trump and RFK Jr have in common, along with a deep friendship with Epstein!

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Think May was a bad month for Trump?

Was convicted on 34 felonies, each of which could have a sentence of 4 years...

Said fictional criminal Hannibal Lector was a "wonderful man"....

Had a 35 second "cognitive default" during his NRA speech...

Stumbles and almost falls over his podium at his New Hampshire rally...

Posts clearly hate-filled and disgusting Nazi "unified reich" rhetoric...

Is humiliated when Nikki Haley who has dropped out, still got 22% of the primary vote in the Indiana primary..

Has to listen to Stormy Daniels testify under oath that before their fling Trump said she "reminded him of his daughter"...

The Art of MAGA-Losing...

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wrong not how the appeal process works, appeal courts go by what evidence was presented in the trial, 

He absolutely can constitutionally

you cant just unilaterally present new evidence to the appeals court.

You can, now whether the courts decide to take it, that’s a different matter. Same thing happened in 2000

If you had the evidence of innocence the defense should have presented it in the trial, cant cry over spilt milk now

If you’re not allowed and denied then not much you can do, thankfully, we got the appeals court.

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I’m hyped! It’s game on, any Democrat is fair game now for the “Justice system” when we win. Fund raising through the roof. Even many trump haters on board the train now. 

convicted felon Trump (hi Baby Soros and Huma) is gonna take the winner take all on November 5th. 

after that no Democrat apologies accepted, no compromises, no let’s work together now. nothing. MAGA agenda and one overdue Democrat jail times. 

the best revenge is success.

Oh this isn’t unhinged at all!

Oh no, nothing authoritarian here….

Makes me remember the great line from “Stripes” where Sgt. Hulka tells “psycho” “Lighten up, Francis.”

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wrong not how the appeal process works, appeal courts go by what evidence was presented in the trial, 

He absolutely can constitutionally

Nope. After the trial, no more evidence can be introduced. The trial is complete. The only way for new evidence to be considered is in the case of an appellate court sending the case back for re-trial, and new evidence can be introduced in that case.

But the appellate court itself does not consider any outside information whatsoever when deciding the appeal, they only review the case based on the points that were explicitly appealed by the defendant.

Once again I'm teaching you of American law.

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If I had a relative who talked like this, I’d have them involuntarily committed on the basis of a psychotic break or substance abuse.

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If Trump is elected as a felon president there will be some problems down the road. You can't get a visa to visit Japan if you have a serious criminal record. I guess there might be exceptions made for Trump.

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"Thirty-eight countries don’t allow felons to enter their borders, according to World Population Review, which says that some of those countries deny entry to felons “up front” while others do so only after such a conviction is “discovered.” That list includes Canada and Mexico, as well as Australia, China and South Africa."

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But the appellate court itself does not consider any outside information 

but they DO review the actions of the judge and how he handled the case and how he applied the law how he instructed the jury and what he allowed and didn’t, said and didn’t…..buckle up

they never did tell us what the predicate crime was that made it felonies. Do you know?

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Blacklabel

they never did tell us what the predicate crime was that made it felonies. Do you know?

Actually, they were very clear on that. And they instructed the jury carefully.

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Fact - the next stop will be the Manhattan appeals court. After that will be the High Court of appeals in Albany, NY. Then the Supreme Court can be petitioned as the final avenue.

Novel legal theory or not, that assumes November does not exist.

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JJE

Fact - the next stop will be the Manhattan appeals court.

Nope. Next stop is sentencing. They can't appeal until after sentencing.

After that will be the High Court of appeals in Albany, NY. Then the Supreme Court can be petitioned as the final avenue.

Novel legal theory or not, that assumes November does not exist.

If they appeal, it won't be heard before November.

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Many heroic figures have been falsely convicted, imprisoned or even martyred by evil political rivals.

trump not the first nor the last. But Black men understand more than most being the primary victims of this type of judicial malfeasance.

So Joe can’t brag too much about what he did for fear of losing the vote.

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Actually, they were very clear on that. And they instructed the jury carefully.

so what was the predicate crime? Simple question

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Next stop for Trump is actually: The White House

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His lawyers selected jury members based ‘very much’ on 45’s input, according to Todd Blanche.

They found him guilty, not the judge.

Anything besides these simple facts are just more ‘boohoo’.

If it’s all helping him so much why so much whining and promises of revenge?

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so what was the predicate crime? Simple question

Educate yourself son. It's public record. We're not your teachers.

If you want the answer to that question, it's very easily available. If you choose to remain willfully ignorant so you can manufacture outrage, well we'll continue to point that out.

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Educate yourself son. It's public record. 

so you don’t know what the predicate crime was either.

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Sentencing will be a formality and it is scheduled for July 11. No doubt the sentence will be stayed while under appeal.

Here's why - no criminal record and this 'conviction' is a white-collar non-violent crime. On top of that 77yo with a proven record of business, public service and family.

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Next stop for Trump is actually: The White House

Actually it’s the probationary hearing where he will surrender to the authorities.

But ‘never surrender’ right?

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If it’s sooooo clear and in the public record too it should be a one sentence answer.

“trump was convicted of 34 misdemeanor X which became 34 felonies due to being committed in the furtherance of predicate crime Y.”

solve for X and Y.

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Sentencing will be a formality and it is scheduled for July 11. No doubt the sentence will be stayed while under appeal.

With 11 gag order violations, and zero repentance while continuing to attack the jurors post-conviction, I wouldn't be so sure of that. All of these things are taken into consideration during sentencing.

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I wonder what his sentence will be. Jail is unlikely. Fine and probation, probably. 500 hours of community work in an orange jumpsuit cleaning up Central Park. It will increase tourism for sure.

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sentence? Jail until after the election, of course:

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wallace

500 hours of community work in an orange jumpsuit cleaning up Central Park. 

That would be too funny...

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I think community service is a gran idea. Plus a hefty fine of course.

I wonder if he’ll pay his lawyers? I almost feel sorry for them….oh wait, no I don’t.

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Blacklabel

sentence? Jail until after the election, of course:

I don't see jail from these crimes, some of the other trials may put him in jail.

10 ( +10 / -0 )

They know they all going to prison if this fails. All of them. 

It’s ok. You’ll just be helping them, right?

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Sentenced to community service eh. An option that would backfire in the Democratic Party’s face as thousands, millions even, turn up to soup kitchens, animal shelters or central park to express solidarity with Father Teresa. That would be the news for a few weeks free.

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JJE

Sentenced to community service eh. An option that would backfire in the Democratic Party’s face

The Democratic Party isn't involved. The judge determines the sentence.

as thousands, millions even, turn up to soup kitchens, animal shelters or central park to express solidarity with Father Teresa. That would be the news for a few weeks free.

A few days tops. Then they'd get bored.

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as thousands, millions even, turn up to soup kitchens, animal shelters or central park to express solidarity with Father Teresa. That would be the news for a few weeks free

The NY trial was in the news for weeks. How many of his supporters showed up to express solidarity?

Barely any.

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The tipping point in this case could have been Michael Cohen's testimony about an online tech company called Red Finch. The jury heard defense counsel ask Mr. Cohen about a $50,000 to Red Finch. He admitted to stealing $30,000 of the payment. One for Mr. Trump's team. The prosecutor on cross-examination asked what that payment was for. According to Mr. Cohen, the $50,000 was to boost then President Trump's ratings in an online opinion poll about "History's Most Notable Leaders", a poll unrelated to the election. But the payment to Red Finch may have been enough to shift the jury's thinking about whether Mr. Trump's was guilty or not guilty.

8 ( +8 / -0 )

You have to say whoever is behind this Trump phenomenon are deviously clever.

From the original election, fake news, everything the don't like is declaimed, what is black is white. The hand in front of your face is actually your foot.

One of the greatest con jobs in world history.

And just unbelievable how many people are supporting this.

Fundamental Christians supporting a three time married philanderer.

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We all saw video of Biden’s non denial of his involvement and little creepy grin back to the media as he shuffled off.

we now know what he did. and he knows we know. All masks are off, he simply thinks nothing we can do about it. Next is to get Hunter acquittal then act like that was a just verdict too.

Game on.

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