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he UN was so upset about it that they passed resolution after resolution condemning Saddam but did nothing to stop him.

Are you forgetting on purpose, or do you really not remember how things happened at that time? Google 'Hans Blix Iraq' if you need a refresher.

Then Bush stops him and then everyone gets upset.

Because Bush went in unilaterally, under false pretenses, and destroyed the country. There's good reason to be upset with that.

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@Strangerland: The conditions during the time of 'festering under Saddam' were miles better than they are now without him.

Perhaps - but there were a whole lot of mass graves dug by Saddam back in his day. And the UN was so upset about it that they passed resolution after resolution condemning Saddam but did nothing to stop him. Then Bush stops him and then everyone gets upset. Let's just stop with the UN grandstanding and just let the world fester as Serrano suggests. That way no one will feel compelled to do anything about mass murderers like Saddam and Assad in Syria. That way of thinking seems to have worked for Obama ( letting thugs murder 400,000 of their own citizens is how Obama won his Nobel Peace Prize).

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no break from his promises to appoint outsiders to his cabinet

Haha, that's a good one. True if you consider billionaires, generals, and relatives to be 'outsiders'.

Trump is WINNING

40% approval rating. 55% disapproval rating. And this is the honeymoon. Go Team Donny!

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I admit the Iraq war was a mistake, we should have let Iraq continue to fester under Saddam

The conditions during the time of 'festering under Saddam' were miles better than they are now without him.

This is why the US needs to stay out of the middle east. Even doing something they though was good and virtuous - getting rid of Saddam - ended up worse than before.

Meddling in the ME has never done the US any good, ever.

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Yeah, Madverts, I admit the Iraq war was a mistake, we should have let Iraq continue to fester under Saddam until someone else figured out what to do. Question: Why did you support Hillary even though she voted for the war?

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SerranoJAN. 16, 2017 - 10:56PM JST Yeah! We should have just left the Taliban and Osama to continue to run amuck in Afghanistan. Well, with the election of Trump instead of Clinton, the chances of war with Russia is greatly diminished.

Thankfully Obama deals with Binny.

I note you omit Iraq there old buddy. That conflict us old skoolers watched you cheer on 2003 to 20th January 2009 on JT.

Trumpsky said today your beloved invasion was "the worst mistake in American history". What gives my winsome son?

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Promise everything, do nothing. FDT

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Next Monday is going to be a busy one around here. Trump will have been president for a few days, and there will be plenty of Trump stories on JT to comment on. It will be a busy back-and-forth at work between work responsibilities and checking the computer back in the office to get a few quick anti-Trump comments in: Genki Good Morning song with 8 year olds. Run to office and post about how racist Trump's AG is. Back to class! Head, Shoulders, Knees and Toes! Done! Back to the computer! Trump is a facist! OK, I'm coming! What do you like fruits? I like strawberries! Back to the office, just enough time to comment a bit about these LOSER corporate cabinet picks before it's time to play Simon Says with the Moms & Kids class!

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@Dan Lewis: “In a democracy, there is no CEO.”

Tell that to the guy with the pen and phone who unilaterally modifies health care, immigration, environmental, et. law without the input of Congress.

CrazyJoe: Why are there never any details when Trump speaks? Because that would require a plan.

Don't worry. To paraphrase Dem Leader Nancy Pelosi, you will find out what's in his new health care law after it's passed.

@SuperLib: The dangerous part is that it shows a willingness to, in some ways, cooperate with foreigners as long as they go after Trump's critics.

This isn't much different from Obama's dangerous propensity to cooperate with America's enemies such as Iran and Cuba as-long-as they criticize - well, America. If Trump makes it know that he will go after nations that criticize America (and Trump represents America as president) then that is a good thing if you ask me. At least better than Obama's rewarding those who go after his own country by giving them billions in cash and relief from sanctions.

@Jan Rodricks: What he should be looking at is gerrymandering, the redrawing of voting district boundaries for partisan political advantage.

I don't really see how it is possible to take partisanship out of redistricting. People who care enough about politics to participate in the redistricting process care enough to learn the issues and have a political opinion. As we see with Supreme Court Justices, it is impossible to find people that can strictly follow the law without letting their partisan interests color their decisions. Besides, redistricting is a part of the political process and we should not seek to remove it from politics. That is how the people can hold the powers that be accountable for their actions. It is only when your party is on the outs that one side or the other is so intent on having a non-politicized redistricting system.

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"No more bombing, invading and occupying other countries."

Yeah! We should have just left the Taliban and Osama to continue to run amuck in Afghanistan. Well, with the election of Trump instead of Clinton, the chances of war with Russia is greatly diminished.

Trump’s reply to Saudi prince proves “America made the right choice”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ex9ldUHSgjs

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Someone here writes "Good luck" to Mr. Trump and the liberals here....vote them down six times. Classy!

Leftists are left with little more to do than speculate on whether or not Trump will "follow through on his promises." Now THAT'S what I call political powerlessness!

Of course, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING Liberals have predicted thus far has come true. No convention nomination fight, no trouble with Trump getting the GOP to stay with him, no break from his promises to appoint outsiders to his cabinet, and no Hillary Clinton win. If you really want to have a laugh, try finding one of these liberal posters who keep failing at their prognostications...and read what they wrote during the summer and before the election! It's HILARIOUS! So totally CERTAIN about what turned out to be completely backwards from what actually happened. But hey, Liberals deal with dreams and "hopes," not reality, most of the time. Welp, reality is going to bite you in your whining backsides, so get ready!

Trump is WINNING, and all liberals can do is pout (and riot.) Ever feel like you're irrelevant? Perhaps because you are!

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I hope for no more "Vietnams" or "Iraqs" in the coming years. Big mistake...

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It could be that.. "president Trump" will last no more than a year... Republicans... I doubt they will let Trump loose for long.

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Hope he has enoughttime to do this after looking at himself in the mirror going "Who loves you baby " half the day

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Trump thinks running a country is like running a company and he just managed to fool enough into believing him. The guy is an absolute joke. If he continues to ignore warnings from Dems, the GOP and the CIA/FBI, he won't last long.

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Term limits are an anti-democratic means to upend voters' choice. What he should be looking at is gerrymandering, the redrawing of voting district boundaries for partisan political advantage.

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The good news is that Trump doesn't seem to be following through on a lot of his proposed policies.

At this point I would be surprised if the wall is built. After enough meetings and people telling him it's a waste of money he'll find a way out. His supporters have demonstrated they are OK with Trump doing a 180 so they won't get in the way. Or maybe he'll do some symbolic something or other and claim victory.

As for coal, that's not coming back. Right wing politicians often talk about bringing coal back to save jobs, but they know it will never happen. They just use it to give coal workers hope and they will vote for them. Again, look for a couple of symbolic publicity stunts but not much else. After 4 years, the coal workers will finally understand that increasing jobs in coal was never really a possibility and it's probably a good thing if that lie ends.

The EPA stuff is concerning because the establishment Republicans will be on board. Look for environmental standards to get gutted. The only silver lining is that the environment is a huge issue for the younger crowed and will be a big black eye for the GOP in the future.

Trade deals? Who knows. They're complicated You could scrap all of them tomorrow and create similar ones the next day with a different name.

Immigration and health care will not be solved. The GOP is too fractured to reach an agreement with each other, and without that there's nothing to vote on. Let's just hope they don't do too much damage with counterproductive patchwork laws in order to placate their base.

As for the hacking, I think Trump will give Putin a pass. Look at it from his point of view. The hacking helped him and targeted his political rivals. I think his honest reaction is a shrug. If he doesn't think of himself as President of all Americans and defending all of us from foreign threats then each issue will be looked at in terms of personal benefit or harm to Trump. So that's going to suck. He'll use the investigations to bring up side points to attack his rivals.

The dangerous part is that it shows a willingness to, in some ways, cooperate with foreigners as long as they go after Trump's critics. He's showing the world how he will treat them, and so far it looks to be pretty flattering. Look for that to come into play in the future in unpredictable ways.

Trump says a lot of dumb stuff, but it's the establishment Republicans who actually vote a lot of dumb things into law. Who knows what they will do, but it will most likely be insane in some way. We know they are targeting Planned Parenthood and we know they will try to outlaw abortion. We already talked about the EPA.

Looks like they are trying to gut the ethics office and by playing the "we don't know for sure that 3 million illegals didn't vote for Clinton" they feel the internet conspiracy crowd is officially a voting block and will play to them. The culture war will continue, including more bathroom laws, and the left will still have no idea the right is at war with them,.

The budget will most likely gut taxes, and that will create a budget shortfall. That will be the justification for gutting social services and the first salvo will probably be something about illegals/foreigners using the services. Look for them to publicize anecdotes of abuse to turn the public against safety net programs overall. The bubble makes it easy.

This will be replicated on the state level. That's where education is too fat of a peach to pass up. That will get cut to help get the books closer to balancing. They'll add in increased consumption taxes that disproportionately impact the poor while keeping the tax cuts for the rich in place. Income disparity will accelerate.

More GOP state congressmen will pass laws to change the system to structurally benefit Republicans. They'll expand their practice of stripping powers away from city mayors, especially in states where large cities have Democratic mayors. Look for them to continue to hit the courts hard and stack them with their own. Voter suppression laws will continue but the courts are pushing back and we should expect to see more wins there.

But then again, I could be wrong.

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All of these past Presidents have been Actors so give this guy some slack- we had the last guy for 2 shows with not much at all to show for it unless you've been on the Receiving end of his socialistic agenda-Time to Stand on your Own Two Feet!

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I also think he will face much opposition from many sides. Personal Opinion: I don't think he realises that he won't have unlimited power and people won't jump just because he sez jump. Potus is different to being an owner/CEO.

Still shocked how they let anyone run for Potus very diffrrent from my country where politicians need a minimum of training/education.

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On the flip side, the minute Trump is sworn in he is going to have conflicts galore. Just look at the hotel in Washington, leased from a government agency, that is among Trump's business holdings that is not permitted for federal workers. The legal battles involved in salvaging his business empire will take up the bulk of Trump's time, to the detriment of almost everyone else in the USA.

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The ACA will be seen in history as a MAJOR victory for this country. Obama changed the conversation from "are all citizens entitled to health care" to "HOW to we provide health care to ALL Americans."

Thank you President Obama.

Why are there never any details when Trump speaks? Because that would require a plan.

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You missed the pledge to reevaluate our war-first policy. No more bombing, invading and occupying other countries. Rather important?

How do we reconcile this with expanding the military, shifting the US embassy to Jerusalem and Rex Tillerson's pronouncements on the South China Sea?

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You could turn the CEO comment around.

There is no democracy in a corporation. If there was, nothing would get decided or accomplished.

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Good luck President elect Trump!

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@PTownsend - good point. I think I'll make that my email signature.

In a democracy, there is no CEO

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“In a democracy, there is no CEO.”

Ignoring the argument re what word best describes the US system, i.e. is it a republic, democracy, democratic republic, constitutional democracy, constitutional republic, whatever, the expression “In a democracy, there is no CEO.” is meme-worthy. It is an expression authoritarian nationalists should be required to listen to and read 100 times a day.

If Trump tries to act like a CEO (see Forbes study of careers that attract the most psychopaths) and dictate orders for his minions to obey while trampling on the nation's laws and regulations, then the only hope for those who don't want a totalitarian state is that the system of checks and balances remains intact. The latter might be hard to do, however, with a Republican congress and a judiciary appointed by Trump and the Republicans. My worry is Trump and his fellow Republicans prefer a checks-and-balance-free system like Russia's with Putin and the oligarchs in charge.

In a democracy, there is no CEO.

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... and various less nefarious countries' immigration departments' offices are girding themselves for an overtime rush of applications from the United States.

Good luck!

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It is going to be interesting to see what a President Trump does. I think he will have more resistance from within the Republican party than people expect. I do not think he is qualified for the position and the fact he continues to tweet out things is not becoming of a President! I do think the U.S. needed a bit of a shake up...but not a Trump.

The more I watch him prepare for office the more concerned I am and it reinforces my original thought that he is not fit for office. Just rattling off a few things below which I think probably even some of the Republican law makers agree with as to where I think Trump could meet resistance.

Health Care: Not sure if the whole Affordable Care Act (ACA) needs to be rescinded however it is a killer for small businesses. Almost all small business owners I know in the U.S. (and I know quite a few) have been really hurt by this. I, for one, am for a single payer system (I like the system in Japan) but the ACA is not good. Also in some cases people are left with a single insurance provider in their state. Something has to be done and quickly.

Immigration: Build a wall? Maybe. Deport everyone in the U.S. illegally presently there - not gonna happen and not practical. I am between Trump and Ms.Clinton on this one. Do something for long-termers but we need to stop people constantly crossing the border. It is an economic and national security issue.

Term Limits: I think it would be a great idea. Too many people there for too long (from either party). This is what allows corruption to fester. However, this will never happen as it would probably require a Constitutional Amendment, which would require a 2/3 majority of Congress to even get the ball rolling.

I for one, do not think Trump is a stupid man. I think he is quite intelligent and cunning. Opponents of Trump writing him off as stupid are making quite a mistake. As for me....I just do not trust the man and I think he is too much of a loose canon. As an American citizen ..and for the sake of the U.S.....I hope he proves me wrong....

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I've never understood American term limits. If people want the person to stay in power, then why not? The idea of Trump getting more than two terms is one that makes me nervous, but if he were to be the choice of the people three times, then why shouldn't he get three terms? After eight years, a president is probably just finally getting into the swing of things, seems a shame to lose all their experience and bring in a rookie who knows nothing.

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theFuJAN. 16, 2017 - 08:52AM JST I wish him luck on term limits (which he can't force). We need to force lifetime politicians to change jobs every 8-12 yrs.

Term limits are a big mistake, an oversimplification of a complex reality. We've seen no evidence that newbies to Congress propose any better legislation to experienced congress people.

Why would they? Congress is complicated. It operates according to complex rules. Our elections are so competitive that during a campaign hardly anyone has time to learn how congress operates before they get in, so on-the-job training is a must, and a very expensive time in terms of how long they have to do the job versus what it takes to get into that training time. Any term limit makes that training time more expensive.

So what are term limits supposed to do? They're supposed to get congress people who aren't doing a good job out of office. But we should be able to vote them out of office if they're not doing a good job. Term limits make it impossible to keep the congresspeople we like while getting rid of the congresspeople we should already be able to get rid of. It literally does nothing to help the American people.

If Americans aren't able to vote out the congresspeople they hate, we should be looking at why that is, not hamstringing ourselves with extra regulations that don't truly solve the problem they're meant to. Jerrymandering, voter suppression, and dishonest campaigning, these are the issues we should be really looking at if we're serious about fixing Congress.

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Obama’s administration made deporting criminals a high priority.

One's definition of "criminal" is the crux.

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Can the president announce a renegotiation of NAFTA without Congressional approval ? But again the US hasn't withdrawn from a trade agreement in over 150 years so I'm sure a lot of people don't know what will happen. Except that it will end up in federal court the next day.

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I wish him luck on term limits (which he can't force). We need to force lifetime politicians to change jobs every 8-12 yrs.

My family can't wait for the ACA rollback and lower insurance premiums that will bring (I hope).

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Trump's busy Day 1: Scrap Obama orders, deport illegals

World Jan. 16, 2017 - 07:17AM JST

Who wrote this story?

It's attributed to something, or someone, named "World". Does "World" have any credibility? Does "World" have a Russian accent? just sayin'

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You missed the pledge to reevaluate our war-first policy. No more bombing, invading and occupying other countries. Rather important?

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