Turkey hits Syria after deadly shelling

Almost the entire border region is controlled by the rebels. Guess who lobbed those mortars into Turkey. The Syrian army is disciplined and well-armed and has no reason to amateurishly fire relatively small mortars into another country. The last thing the Syrian government wants is Turkish intervention yet the rebels are desperate for it. Guess who fired those mortars.

The same month, two Syrians in Turkey were killed by cross-border bullets.

Killed by whom? The rebels? Why is such pertinent information omitted in an article by a major newswire. An inconvenient truth perhaps.

Syria was looking into the origin of the deadly cross-border shelling, its Information Omran Zoabi said in a statement reported by state television.

"Syria offers it sincere condolences to the families of the victims and to our friends the Turkish people," he added.

Clearly not an intentional provocation, they need to investigate because they have no clear information. The reason for that is that the rebels are the ones who fired the shells in a standard false flag operation.

You know how it is... shoot first ask questions later.

Someone is trying hard to get a third party to the conflict without having themselves to get implicated. Seen that before, been done before. I don't see the Syrian government's interest to get Turkey involved...

NeverSubmit: "Killed by whom? The rebels? Why is such pertinent information omitted in an article by a major newswire. An inconvenient truth perhaps."

And you have evidence that the rebels did this? Strangely enough, when the Turkish returned fire to the location of the mortar launches (based on radar information), it was Syrian military in those positions. The full truth in these situations is always a little difficult to tease out, but all your comments are doing are repeating the retoric of the Syrian government, which is clearly responsible for escalating what were once protests into what is now a full-blown civil war.

Clearly not an intentional provocation, they need to investigate because they have no clear information. The reason for that is that the rebels are the ones who fired the shells in a standard false flag operation.

In literally the same breath you said that the Syrian government doesn't have any clear information but that you know, for a fact, that it was the rebels. And you wonder why people keep dogging you about your opinions on this...

I don't see the Syrian government's interest to get Turkey involved...

The Syrian government has been having a serious problem keeping its act together. With mounting defections and an increase in the intensity of the fighting I'd say there's a 3-way split that the mortars came from either the Syrian military, a proxy of either the military or the rebels, or the rebels. I tend to lean towards a proxy group.

The Syrian government's desperate but not quite suicidal. The rebels probably wouldn't risk alienating their strongest ally. That leaves one of the many groups of thugs roving the country claiming to support either the Syrian regime or the rebels but killing indiscriminately.

Now all we need is al Qaeda etc...jumping into this mess!!! Wars are horrible!! Where is NATO??

What do the Russians?? Chinese?? Iranians think about this mess????

What do the Russians?? Chinese?? Iranians think about this mess????

They're smart enough to know that this attack is just a coy attempt by the rebels to get Turkey involved.

For those who don't know, mortars can easily be fired by a small two man crew. However, they're ridiculously ineffective and are about 100 years old. The Syrian army which is quite well equipped has no need for such weapons and it's ridiculous to assume that they lob grenade sized mortars into a foreign for tactical or strategic weapons.

We're looking at a classic false flag operation.

The exact same scenario was played out when Germany invaded Poland in 1939. The German army claimed that some Polish soldiers (or at least men dressed in Polish military uniforms) fired at a German border outpost and poor Germany had no choice but to reluctantly invade Poland in retaliation.

Watch as NATO blows this whole thing out of proportion and started beating the war drums. They'll start of course with "buffer zones" and "no-fly" zones but the intent is for those to lead to a full scale war.

Interestingly, two day ago, the Russian Foreign Ministry warned NATO against using any false pretexts to attack Syria. I guess Russian intelligence knew that something was afoot.

The Russian Ministry specifically mentioned "the Syrian opposition provoking a conflict along the Turkish border".

The link for the article about the Russian Ministry warning on false flag attacks from the rebels

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/10/03/264728/russia-warns-nato-over-syria-scenario/

"NATO, in an emergency evening meeting at its Brussels headquarters, condemned the attack against member-state Turkey and called on Syria to respect international law." Really?

I am sure NATO and the USA, etc..can impose s NO FLY ZONE over Syria, just a matter of time and once those tupelovs?? Migs try to get off the ground?? Well, you all know what will happen to the Syrian air force etc..

Turkey : dream of reviving the glory of the Ottoman Empire ! After housing droves of Syrian Rebels in Turkey, the shelling will mark the beginning of a more complicated scenario. Guess where the the WW III takes place ?

NeverSubmit... the Syrian government has now apologised to the Turkish government for their mistake (just Google "syria apologizes to turkey"). Your arguments seems to be somewhat misplaced. The truth of the matter is that the Syrian army is waging a war against its own people. This is not good for the Syrian government and not good for the Syrian people. The soon the fighting stops, the better it will be for everyone.

@donkusai;

You are correct that the Syrian government has apologized. But it has apologized because the shelling came "from" Syrian territory. Not because it came from the Syrian Army.

In effect, the Syrian government has apologized for failing to control and arrest the rebels who are criminally responsible for firing the shells.

NeverSubmit: Did you even read the news articles? I'll quote it for you from AP:

"AKCAKALE, TURKEY—Turkey’s deputy prime minister says Syria has admitted it was responsible for the shelling that killed five civilians in Turkey and has formally apologized for the deaths."

It is quite clear they were apologising for being responsible FOR the shelling, not simply that it came FROM Syria. Anything else is simply twisting the words of the Turkish deputy prime minister and is propoganda.