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@SuperLibAPR. 18, 2016 - 02:47PM JST

Can you tell me how many mutual defense agreements Russia and China have with countries surrounding the Gulf of Mexico?

What is the relevance of this question? So I'm supposed to feel better about your spyplane or cruiser sniffing as close to my coast as international law would allow because you have friends?

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One of these days there will be a collision and one or both sides will be looking to fish dead crew out of the sea - Russian, American, or NATO ally, it'll be tragedy. I wonder if our Russians will still think it's all fun and games.

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. . . still, Chinese warships entered US territorial waters off of Alaska last Sept. Flexing a little muscle before their huge military parade.

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for example Russia or China sends a cruiser to the Gulf of Mexico

Can you tell me how many mutual defense agreements Russia and China have with countries surrounding the Gulf of Mexico?

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@PhillyStreetzPACAPR. 18, 2016 - 12:34AM JST

Really. Your responses is just as laughable. Since you don't know....the international airspace alone the US Eastern and Western seaboards, and the Gulf of Mexico is a hodgepodge of Russian and Chinese military vessels and submarines constantly monitoring the US homeland.

There might be "fishing trawlers", but please tell me then, how routinely for example Russia or China sends a cruiser to the Gulf of Mexico, versus how often an Aegis cruiser / destroyer gets sent to the Black Sea.

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Freedom of navigation and spying - ya gotta take the good with the bad

Same with freedom of speech - if ya want that freedom protected, ya gotta take bad speech along with good speech

The Russian plane was on international airspace too. So what's the problem? :)

The problem is not that they're there - it's the perilous maneuver they pulled.

Once again, shadow 'em if they want, just keep a safe distance. Everyone has the right to be there.

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No one owns that air. So Russia can fly there, it's definitely closer for them :)

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Ah, that's just Putin's just throwing another tantrum. He's upset now that most of the "Former Soviet Satellites" (ie formerly un-free puppet states long-crushed under the USSR's thumb) are now free and under the NATO umbrella, while Ukrainians are bent on gaining EU membership-thus throwing off the yoke of Moscow Vlad's long list of diktats (remember when Putin's puppet Viktor Yanukovich refused to sign the EU agreement the Ukrainian people wanted? By the way, how's Moscow and Russian citizenship working out, Viktor?)

No more Russian domination for Slovakia, Romania, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Bulgaria, Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic/Slovakia (former Czechoslovakia.) Hey, even parts of former Yugoslavia are now in NATO, too (Croatia and Slovenia), while former communists Albania also made the cut in 2009.

That's a lot of free people in a lot of countries crying out in unison, "Never again, Russia!" Now, about the Ukraine....

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The Russian plane was on international airspace too. So what's the problem? :)

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<@lostrune2APR. 17, 2016 - 05:27PM JST

Everyone. International space is international. Once governments start putting restrictions on freedom of navigation, we all lose out (like China is doing in the South China Sea). And that goes the same for international space near the US coast. Once again, shadow 'em if they want, just keep a safe distance. Everyone has the right to be there, including both Russia and the US. No freedom restrictions.

Let's face it, we all know why that US spyplane was there for and it is not friendly. Though they are willing to bite the bullet for their choice occasionally, the US supports "freedom of navigation" less because they really believe in it, than because most of the time they benefit more from it than other nations with less expeditionary ability. In effect they are abusing the rules more than anyone else. They aren't getting shot down because they aren't over the border yet, but to expect no one to show their displeasure is unrealistic and asinine.

(When freedom of navigation is very inconvenient to the US, it institutes a quarantine - ref Cuban Missile Crisis)>

Really. Your responses is just as laughable. Since you don't know....the international airspace alone the US Eastern and Western seaboards, and the Gulf of Mexico is a hodgepodge of Russian and Chinese military vessels and submarines constantly monitoring the US homeland. And, Russia's facilities on Cuba, well let's not even go there.....whole different Chapter.) Russian and Chinese military attaches, not mentioned Israeli, French, British, and German (just to name a few of our "friends" ) routinely conduct subversive counterintelligence operations "on American soil"

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@lostrune2APR. 17, 2016 - 05:27PM JST

Everyone. International space is international. Once governments start putting restrictions on freedom of navigation, we all lose out (like China is doing in the South China Sea). And that goes the same for international space near the US coast. Once again, shadow 'em if they want, just keep a safe distance. Everyone has the right to be there, including both Russia and the US. No freedom restrictions.

Let's face it, we all know why that US spyplane was there for and it is not friendly. Though they are willing to bite the bullet for their choice occasionally, the US supports "freedom of navigation" less because they really believe in it, than because most of the time they benefit more from it than other nations with less expeditionary ability. In effect they are abusing the rules more than anyone else. They aren't getting shot down because they aren't over the border yet, but to expect no one to show their displeasure is unrealistic and asinine.

(When freedom of navigation is very inconvenient to the US, it institutes a quarantine - ref Cuban Missile Crisis)

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Those naughty Russians - I just wish they would do what the US tells them.

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Shadow 'em but keep a safe distance so as to minimize possibility of incident

The US plane is operating about 10,000 miles from home.

The Russian plane about 50 miles.

Who deserves to be there?

Everyone. International space is international. Once governments start putting restrictions on freedom of navigation, we all lose out (like China is doing in the South China Sea). And that goes the same for international space near the US coast.

Once again, shadow 'em if they want, just keep a safe distance. Everyone has the right to be there, including both Russia and the US. No freedom restrictions.

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@Madverts "Seems the Russians didn't learn their lesson in Turkey".

Which one lesson you're talking about ? Turkey attacked a bomber. Try to attack bomber with high-speed fighters interceptors around.

"Don't Putin has lost it." Your rather childish hatred to Russia and Russians looks out merely laughable. Try to realize that every independent country has a right to defend borderlines.

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Seems the Russian's didn't learn their lesson in Turkey.

Don Putin has lost it. Like all dictators once they've tanked the economy, they create conflict and patriotic fervour to hide it....

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