Al-Qaida bomber was CIA informant

what a surprise. Al-CIAaida strikes again

All these "terrorists" we hear about always seem to be connected to the CIA in one form or another.

What's really going on here?

Hmmm...

All these "terrorists" we hear about always seem to be connected to the CIA in one form or another.

Because Al-Qaida was a CIA created terrorist group used to fight the soviets.

Why is the USA paying billions to support a puppet government in Afghanistan and many other countries when the "enemy" is supposed to be in Yemen? Send in the drones and Send Home the Yanks. No danger in Okinama!

@noriyosan73 The enemy's everywhere in that region. Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen, UAE.

Score one for the good guys.

Good work by the CIA infiltrating Al Qaida with a double agent. Nice to see that old fashioned tradecraft is being used.

Okay, so the CIA supplied the terrorist. How long until we hear they also supplied the bomb?

Score one for the good guys.

What good guys? The nearest the article came to naming a good guy was when it named John F. Kennedy Airport.

valued_customer

Okay, so the CIA supplied the terrorist. How long until we hear they also supplied the bomb? "Score one for the good guys." What good guys? The nearest the article came to naming a good guy was when it named John F. Kennedy Airport.

Well said, its funny how some posters forget the little things like how OSB and his organisation came about. The US created this monster now they are trying to kill it and despite successive president claiming victory or being close to victory the threat remains and is only a bit of luck away from another horrific attack.

The future of TSA checkpoints: "Ladies and Gentlemen, please remove all underwear for inspection".

This reminds me of the Coyote and the Road Runner at it out in the desert. Funny but unfortunately very serious. I am so afraid that they will eventually "get us" again. But at least the U.S. government is doing its part.

"The US created this monster now they are trying to kill it"

Heh, you make it sound like they grew him in a lab or something.

It is true that the US funded Mujahadeen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan of which Binny was a recruit, but it also ends there - and has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

All I can see is that yesterdays conspiracy has been edited today, in light of the developing story.

Madverts

"The US created this monster now they are trying to kill it" Heh, you make it sound like they grew him in a lab or something.

Nah they didnt grow it in a lab they just financed, armed, trained and helped support it.

It is true that the US funded Mujahadeen fighting the Soviets in Afghanistan of which Binny was a recruit, but it also ends there - and has absolutely nothing to do with the topic at hand.

So you cant see a connection between the US arming, training and financing the Mujahadeen of which Bin Liner was more than just a recruit but rather a major financial and operational player himself. And the fact that now they are trying as they have been for more than a decade to destroy the very organisation he helped create. Oh the irony.

All I can see is that yesterdays conspiracy has been edited today, in light of the developing story.

Maybe because yesterdays conspiracy (news) is still coming back to bite the collective butts of those that helped create this situation.

Cletus, I know it is all so very confusing - the Mujahadeen, the Taliban, al-Qaeda - that one sometimes hopes so badly for a simple connection, some one-bite answer, to explain a complexity that has taken thousands of years to develop. I am glad that you have found one. It is, however, quite removed from reality.

Laguna

Cletus, I know it is all so very confusing - the Mujahadeen, the Taliban, al-Qaeda - that one sometimes hopes so badly for a simple connection, some one-bite answer, to explain a complexity that has taken thousands of years to develop. I am glad that you have found one. It is, however, quite removed from reality.

Oh the sarcastic wit...

Now maybe you can explain where in my post l even mentioned the Taliban? I know it must be hard but do try and read before putting words in others mouths. If you cannot see a link between the Mujahadeen and Al Qaeda then l will give you a little hint. Al Qaeda was founded by people who fought with and for the Mujahadeen. So there is your link my dear blind friend. So you may say its removed from reality but l think its you who is removed from reality....

Al Qaeda was founded by people who fought with and for the Mujahadeen.

This is true. Please also note your use of "was." The US had two choices during the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan: to sit idle or to act. It was Reagan who chose the latter case, and he chose to do so through surrogates. One may debate the wisdom of this choice, but I personally think it was a wise thing to do.

Many disaffected Arabs flocked to the conflict and left with radical ideas. They would most likely have done so whether the US had intervened or not. The US did nothing to create hatred through its aid to the Mujahadeen; the US did nothing to materially aid the formation of Al Qaeda or perpetuate it. It may be argued that US involvement gave it a window into the personages and intents of these people at an early stage.

ya right CIA after the fact when nobody believed the plot here comes the informant. which people still dont believe

"hoping to launch a spectacular attack using a new, nearly undetectable bomb aboard an airliner"

What the heck is wrong with some people?

"Maybe because yesterdays conspiracy (news) is still coming back to bite the collective butts of those that helped create this situation."

Nah, just read the threads of yesterday. Must feel pretty foolish now the truth about the double agent is out.

If a CIA double agent seeks out Al Qaeda and proposes to be the protagonist in a terrorist act... can it really be said that Al Qaeda is responsible for the plan?

cechanju: yes, it is.

He has dispatched his own brother to death, hiding a bomb on him before he crossed into Saudi Arabia to target the kingdom’s chief counterterrorism official. He has tried to attack the United States three times in the past three years, building small, sophisticated and hard-to-detect devices in his workshop in the rugged terrain of southern Yemen.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/al-qaeda-bomb-maker-ibrahim-hassan-al-asiri-has-tried-to-attack-the-us-three-times-officials-say/2012/05/08/gIQA16pkBU_story.html

But the man the terrorists were counting on to carry out the attack was actually working for the CIA.

was actually working for the CIA... was actually working for the CIA... was actually working for the CIA...

Military dog = CIA good, smart. I like CIA. CIA good guys.

Human = CIA is a terrorist organization that carries out espionage, bombings and assassinations to support COG (continuity of government)

Cletus: Nah they didnt grow it in a lab they just financed, armed, trained and helped support it.

And I go around saying the US made Japan, Germany, England, France, Australia, et. al, and everyone thinks I'm crazy! Glad to know I have some support. Comparing the "support" given to Bin Laden and your own country it's probably safe to say that you were Made in the USA.

Honestly, you're smarter than that. I know you probably don't really believe what you're saying to the extent that you say it, but it gives you some nice comments on threads like this. Seems beneath you, but if that's all ya got, then it's all ya got.

The funding and the ochestration of Al-Qaeda is funded in large by the Saudis. The Saudi Arabians have one of the most repressive types of Islam that exists. Inequality, discrimination,nepotism and archaic thought patterns are the norm in this oil rich country which the world tolerates because of oil.

Quote: "The CIA had al-Qaida fooled from the beginning."

Innocuous-sounding comment, but not such a good idea to gloat or poke fun at them, IMHO. A bit like stirring up a hornets' nest?

And not such a good idea to announce publicly the use of an informant. We all remember discoveries of alleged informants in Lebanon, Gaza and Iran and the subsequent treatment of them.

A BBC article from July 2004 called “Al-Qaeda’s origins and links” reveals that Osama Bin Laden was a CIA agent in the 1980s. The article states: “During the anti-Soviet jihad Bin Laden and his fighters received American and Saudi funding. Some analysts believe Bin Laden himself had security training from the CIA.” It is highly possible that Osama Bin Laden was still an agent of the CIA on September 11, 2001. As they say of the CIA, once a member, always a member.

J. Michael Springmann, a 20 year foreign service official, and a former Consulate officer in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, has publicly stated for many years that the CIA brought over Muslim radicals to the United States for secret terrorist training. Most of these radicals were brought through Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, where Springman was stationed from 1987 to 1989 before he was let go by the State Department because he raised questions about the weakly enforced VISA qualification process.

In an interview in May 2002 Springmann pointed out that 15 of the 19 hijackers in the 9/11 attacks entered the United States after CIA officials in Jeddah approved their visas. “According to the Los Angeles Times,” said Springmann, “fifteen of the nineteen people, the Saudis who were allegedly responsible for flying planes into the World Trade Towers and the Pentagon, they got their visas from the Consulate at Jeddah.”

U.S. foreign policy is not geared towards curbing the tide of Islamic fundamentalism. In fact, it is quite the opposite. The significant development of “radical Islam”, in the wake of the Cold War in the former Soviet Union and the Middle East is consistent with Washington’s hidden agenda. The latter consists in sustaining rather than combating international terrorism, with a view to destabilizing national societies and preventing the articulation of genuine secular social movements directed against the American Empire.

Washington continues to support — through CIA covert operations — the development of Islamic fundamentalism, throughout the Middle East, in the former Soviet Union as well in China and India. Throughout the developing world, the growth of sectarian, fundamentalist and other such organizations tends to serve U.S. interests. These various organizations and armed insurgents have been developed, particularly in countries where state institutions have collapsed under the brunt of the IMF-sponsored economic reforms. These fundamentalist organizations contribute by destroying and displacing secular institutions. Islamic fundamentalism creates social and ethnic divisions. It undermines the capacity of people to organize against the American Empire. These organizations or movements, such as the Taliban, often foment “opposition to Uncle Sam” in a way which does not constitute any real threat to America’s broader geopolitical and economic interests.”