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Black Sabbath
More like Republicans Defy Common Sense, Common Decency and Common Knowledge, and Common Ground.
Moreover, the Republican Party must be destroyed.
MarkG
Don't paint the picture as gloomily as you do so fast BS. Democrats are growing in numbers with the same concerns.
Moreover, if I disagree with someone they must be destroyed. Sounds foolish I know. Just sayin.
CrazyJoe
And again, President Obama shows us he is the only grownup in the room. Republicans have nothing but being afraid, and making other people afraid. They NEVER offer any solutions for anything, other than sending Americans off to war. And it's never their sons and daughters, it's ours.
SenseNotSoCommon
No Room at the Inn.
Happy Exmas!
nath
It depends on what they mean by extra/tightened screening. If they mean an additional layer of screening to ensure that no terrorists get in, then that's ok. If they mean an additional layer of screening to allow them to deny refugees admittance while putting up a front of being willing to let in the refugees, well that's sleazy.
Hopefully it's the former, unfortunately I could see it being the latter.
SuperLib
I agree with Strangerland. If they want some extra security measures, I'd like to see them. I'm not against that. But most of their language has been barring everyone, or just letting in Christians, and that's just not going to fly.
SenseNotSoCommon
Someone got the Daesh manual for Christmas.
Zodiac
I guess the repulicans are contend with Europe burning to the ground by the migrants masses while they keep setting fire to the middle east.
pointofview
The best security measure is to keep all refugees out.
Louis Amsel
10K wouldn't change anything, Europe is screwed. I think we are already in WW3, Islam is winning, and the West don't have the slightest clue on what they are doing
Bartholomew Harte
Women,Chilren, Families -from what newsreel footage i've seen i saw Very Few Families! the vast majority Men,Men, & more Men. Politicians of ALL stripes play upon the fears of the unknown & have done so with the Irish, the Italians, the Spanish & the African-and until the people of this world Stop the Killings there will be refugees in need & 10,000 may seem like a whole lot but there Is room here& once vetted they should be allowed entry-as for all those young men ?let them fight their own battles!
nath
Well they're winning insofar as they've convinced you that there is a war between Muslims and non-Muslims.
bass4funk
Hmmm.. Diane Feinstein, Chris (Obama boot lickin' ) Matthews, Chuck Todd and some of the more progressive libs out there. I guess they too, defy common sense.
Make room for the Democrats, you need to make room for them as well.
That's acting like a complete idiotic lost and rambling loon. He'll lecture and be the partisan he always is known to be as he usually likes doing about how heartless Republicans are all that other garraluous whatever... The man would rather politicize an issue than think about the overall ramifications of his inability to use what little brain he has.
So how are the Republicans in the US making people, in particular the French afraid? Hey, I wish they had that kind of influence. You are giving way too much credit to the GOP.
And libs solutions are to just sit, wait it out, capitulate and become a possible statistic and allowing the terrorists to dictate how we should conduct ourselves, because heaven forbid, we make them feel bad.
We have an all voluntary military. If the kids of some of our leaders want to go, they can.
I would be for letting the Christians in since they are the people that are being slaughtered in numbers as first priority, second, I would would take time in letting the Muslims and after what happened yesterday with the female suicide bomber, I would prolong that waiting time until we can get a better and more in depth look at exactly who these people are.
SuperLib
OK, and those should be the ones with the cross tattooed on their arms so we can just waive them in.
OK, and those would be the ones who have the beards.
Not a bad plan.
In the same number of years it will take these refugees to finish processing we'll probably have another 5-10 school shootings or so. People will just shrug and move on with their lives, but hey, let's not let this group of people in because of the extremely small chance one might shoot up the place. Protect American jobs?
Louis Amsel
"Well they're winning insofar as they've convinced you that there is a war between Muslims and non-Muslims."
Yes, better than not see it
bass4funk
So, should we do a side by side comparison of how many Christians are plotting to wage Jihad throughout Europe and the US? If the numbers come even remotely close, then don't allow them as well, but something tells me, the numbers don't even make 0.1%
Facial features won't necessarily confirm a person is a jihadist or not, if that were the case to determine a persons eligibility, all the Israelis would have been dead a long time ago.
So now, you want to side step? It's already bad enough that Obama does it, you want to go that route as well?
Small chance? Apprantely, you didn't hear what happened in France over the weekend, even über-socialist progressive Hollande woke up and realized, this is serious and we are indeed at war with the radical elements of Islam. If Obama for once would get his head out of his..... Maybe he could actually see and understand what's going on, but that would be giving him too much credit.
plasticmonkey
Are you suggesting that Hollande is going to change his country's immigration policies? Your comment is off topic. The Paris attack was not the result of 'uber liberal' immigration policies. It had nothing to do with the Syrian refugee crisis.
In fact, France is not a popular destination for refugees from Syria because of the way Muslims are treated there. France and Belgium are full of racism. Many Muslims in France live their lives as third class citizens in depressing housing projects on the outskirts of the cities. They have been systematically marginalized -- socially, culturally, and economically. That is the largest reason Paris was chosen as a target. Almost all (and possibly all) of the attackers were French or Belgian citizens who had been radicalized in their own countries.
When these particular Republicans use the Paris attack to legitimize shutting out Syrian refugees, they will in effect be doing the same thing France and Belgium have done: marginalizing people based on their culture.
Good luck with that.
Wc626
Heh . . . Some Syrian men were caught in Honduras (central america) who were destined to come into the US (probably to commit terror).
Wow, soon the trojan horses will be coming from every direction.
Texas A&M Aggie
Slamming the door in the face of refugees would betray our deepest values
Heh, apparently "the only grownup in the room" didn't get the memo that one of the Paris attackers was a "refugee". Probably too busy tweeting on social media from overseas like little high school girl to be bothered with updates coming out of France . . .
Wc626
LoL. Bass, you forgot about our commander-in-retreat.
That's right, do not let them in. Why create conditions subjecting americans (at home) to additional violence at the hands of islamic men- who are not welcomed in the first place.
You're right. There will be more school shootings, etc. But lets at least stop the threat from IS as much as we can.
Laguna
Wow, when the lights come on, it is certainly easy to spot the scuttling cockroaches. Whether comments made by certain GOPers are a result of stupidity or craven opportunism (or both) really doesn't matter in the end; either way, they feed directly into the hand of the ISIS, who desperately want to portray their viciousness as an apocalyptic struggle between Islam and the world (and for this reason, the Syrian passport found on one of the attackers was likely planted).
The case of the refugees is one in point. That of the 1.8 million refugees admitted since the current program was initiated under Reagan in 1980, not one has committed an act of terrorism. Even compared with violence caused by non-refugee Islamic militants since 9/11, more than twice as many Americans have been killed by white American males in what authorities consider acts of terrorism. The list of ignored evidence goes on, but there is no need to state it as some will simply not acknowledge logic.
However, logically speaking, the only end result of the current GOP panic tantrum would be to ban immigration of all Muslims. After all, the Paris terrorists were French and Belgium citizens, and ISIS works tremendously hard to attract Muslims from all over the globe. No prominent GOP politician has gone this far so far, but unfortunately, it is likely only a question of time until one does - and then others will race to emulate. And that would be truly, truly horrible: Not only would America have lost its soul, but ISIS would have won.
ohara
Hey, lets all sing Happy Christmas (War is Over) by John n Yoko as we welcome the flood of refugees!
Oh, on second thoughts, better not. It will offend their muslim sensibilities.
plasticmonkey
And your solution to the world's problems is to crap over any sensibilities that do not align with yours.
Good luck with that.
jerseyboy
LOL. What a bunch of hypocrites. The party that prides itself of its Christian values and "right to life"; as well as guns rights and is always saying how if someone with a gun was present at any of the mass shootings our country has endured, things would be different -- is nothing but a bunch of chickens. But, anyone with half a brain knew that anyway -- all talk.
PTownsend
Do you think the Statue of Liberty should be removed? So many of the ultra-right JT respondents sound like they're the most anti-American. The only freedom they seem to want is to carry guns.
This doesn't bother you, as long as you can have your guns??
nath
The republicans seem to think there is a terrorist problem because of the refugees, when really there is a refugee problem because of the terrorists.
bass4funk
What a bunch of BS! Totally different scenario. The US doesn't have a problem with anyone from anywhere integrating as long as they follow our rules, this is not the issue! The issue is first and foremost, safety and the real possible threat about security and the desire to avoid another Paris style attack. And to be frank, the Democrats do not have a good record at all when it comes to foreigners and migration. Remember the issue with the kids coming from El Salvador, Guatamala and Homduras? Where are these people now? What are they doing? They never received proper papers, they never became immunized. So how are we to tell or how are we going to get insurances that this won't happen again. Governors in each state are listeWhen these particular Republicans use the Paris attack to legitimize shutting out Syrian refugees, they will in effect be doing the same thing France and Belgium have done: marginalizing people based on their culture.
What a bunch of BS! Totally different scenario. The US doesn't have a problem with anyone from anywhere integrating as long as they follow our rules, this is not the issue! The issue is first and foremost, safety and the real possible threat about security and the desire to avoid another Paris style attack. And to be frank, the Democrats do not have a good record at all when it comes to foreigners and migration. Remember the issue with the kids coming from El Salvador, Guatamala and Homduras? Where are these people now? What are they doing? They never received proper papers, they never became immunized. So how are we to tell or how are we going to get insurances that this won't happen again. Governors in each state are listening to their constituents and the majority don't agree with this president. Now you have over 30 Governers, one of them a Democrat and on behalf of all their constituents, they are voicing their fears and trepidations about the security of the country.
On this one, the Dems seriously digging a very deep hole for themselves.ning to their constituents and the majority don't agree with this president. Now you have over 30 Governers, one of them a Democrat and on behalf of all their constituents, they are voicing their fears and trepidations about the security of the country.
SenseNotSoCommon
Meanwhile, Ben Carson suggests that refugees should be screened like potentially rabid dogs
Intellect and cultural awareness now mutually exclusive?
pointofview
Burn your flag and chant "Death to ..." when they dont need help and beg and plead for it when they do. Now theres a good one.
bass4funk
He's absolutely right.
plasticmonkey
bass
The overwhelming majority of immigrants and refugees do 'follow our rules'. Including those from the Middle East. What throws things off balance is limiting these people's participation and investment in their communities. This is a no brainer.
Marginalization is marginalization. And it comes back to bite you in the rear.
The US has, relatively, done well avoiding homegrown terrorist attacks. (Remember, the Paris attacks were orchestrated not by immigrants, but by Belgian and French citizens from troubled suburbs where Muslim immigrants stand virtually no chance of getting anywhere in life.) The US has succeeded because it has heretofore avoided marginalizing Muslim immigrants. Witness the Detroit metro area. When you start treating people like scum, they become it. Witness Paris.
The Trump, Bush, Cruz, Carson, general GOP vision on this issue is historically and sociologically ignorant. And dangerous. You want to play into IS's hands, vote GOP.
PTownsend
@Bass
From R. Murdoch's Wall Street Journal.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-mythical-connection-between-immigrants-and-crime-1436916798
ohara
Oh, on second thoughts, better not. It will offend their muslim sensibilities.
And your solution to the world's problems is to crap over any sensibilities that do not align with yours.
Good luck with that
The point is it WOULD offend them. They're rioting for less in Germanistan right now though its not on mainstream news media. I have a friend in Frankfurt. He now carries a concealed weapon when he goes out and is leaving the country for good in December. From the safety of Japan (no Islamic tsunami) its easy to be the great compassionate one.