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Great news.

I guess another interpretation is that "God" sent the rapist to create live.

The American Taliban liveth. The comedy show that keeps on giving from the Republican party.

Get off your asses and vote Americans, keep these freaks out of power.

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Exactly. Proof that all religious fundamentalists are not fit for public office. This guy belongs in Saudi Arabia or even Farkistan. In a just world, he`ll be gone.f

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You get lunatics like this guy who preaches his radical version of Christianity and wants to impose it on the whole country. This is EXACTLY why there should be separation of church and state. Murdock or any radical religious zealot, does NOT belong in politics PERIOD!

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The American Taliban liveth.

You expressed my thoughts on the matter.

The tea party and religious conservatives claim to be libertarian, but time and time again they try to impose their religious beliefs on others and in contradiction to established law. Americans are battling with fundamentalism on two fronts, in the middle east and at home. Republicans have become too 1950's for my taste.

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My only optimistic thought on this report is that the Republicans blocking every piece of legislation will be voted out leaving a Democratic legislature that can (hopefully) do what they were elected to do, pass laws.

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Assuming God exists and everything is planned, it's still a very insensitive thing to say.

The idiot will hopefully get nowhere in politics.

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This guy belongs in Saudi Arabia or even Farkistan

And will have to move from his current residence in Absurdistan.

Why would God create a being only to then create another to rape her? What kind of twisted, sadistic deity is that?

Gong show.

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What the article left out along with the hyperventilated knee jerk headline.

Mourdock, who appeared to choke back tears as he spoke, said the only exception he could support was if the mother’s life was in danger.

“Life is that gift from God. I think that even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something God intended to happen,” Mourdock said, his voice thick with emotion.

http://www.indystar.com/viewart/20121023/NEWS0502/210230326/Question-abortion-provokes-controversy-U-S-Senate-debate-between-Richard-Mourdock-Joe-Donnelly-Andrew-Horning

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I read earlier today - almost lost my lunch.

The telling thing is that to my knowledge, Liberals simply don't make such outrageous statements.

They know better.

The same can't be said for conservatives.

And - again - views like this are driven by perverted unproveable religious views.

Yet another good reason to keep religion way out of politics.

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Thankfully Romney condemned this guy's insulting comments, but it's just sad - he made his comments, and then when the fully justified criticisms started raining down he issued his totally predictable "clarification."

No. He said what was on his mind.

Or, put another way, if these thoughts were not on his mind, he wouldn't have stated them.

No amount of side-stepping and dodging is going to reverse things.

And it's always the religious conservatives.

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“The only exception I have to have an abortion is in that case of the life of the mother,”

God creates life, and that was my point.

So.... if a woman is raped by some scumbag and gets pregnant from it, that's the will of God? In that case, if a woman gets pregnant and the pregnancy threatens to kill her, isn't that the will of God, too? God works His wonders through scumbags?

The trouble with these blaspheming fundamentalists is that they fit their religion around their beliefs, not the other way round. If there were a God, these fools would be proving His existence through their inability to dodge the thunderbolts.

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Cleo - "If there were a God, these fools would be proving His existence through their inability to dodge the thunderbolts."

ROFL!! :-)

"The trouble with these blaspheming fundamentalists is that they fit their religion around their beliefs, not the other way round."

I think you'll find it is the other way around....- they base their beliefs on their religion.

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It's cases like this that underline why Atheists are simply safer for society.

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Richard Lugar was a pretty good guy. To the large number of Republicans who no doubt miss him now: The Democratic Party welcomes you. The current GOP is not that of Eisenhower; it is not even that of Reagan. There is absolutely no reason for you to put up with this.

Two other points: "“Governor Romney disagrees with Richard Mourdock’s comments, and they do not reflect his views" is about as weak as is possible of refutations. What a spineless man.

Also: The Tea Party is the gift which keeps on giving.

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"What the article left out along with the hyperventilated knee jerk headline."

Man, that card is getting seriously dog-eared. I hope it isn't your voter ID. ;)

It isn't a knee-jerk headline, every major news network is rightly blaring out the latest testament to the Akin-esque radicalism and flabbergasting backwards mutterings from the American Taliban.

This isn't just a skin-flint nut with a radical church trying to get in the headlines by buring a Koran. This is a politician alive and well and amazingly seeking political office within today's Republican party.

If "God" intended the baby to be born He intended for the woman to be raped - thankfully I don't adhere to any of this twaddle so even the moderates sound a bit odd to me, but this type of "thinking" is but one step from stoning the woman to death for inciting the man to rape her.

All good news for Democrats and the women voters this nut will have swayed. Don't forget, if a 65 yr old President Romney were to snuff it in office, one of these crazies would be in the chair. The mind boggles.

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Statements and attitudes of people like Richard Mourdock are the direct result of religious brainwashing.

And as a former Christian who has first hand experience, I don't use that term lightly.

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Even Camp Romney is in full reverse thrust Sail, them tyres are smokin'.

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How can religious crackpots like this even be considered for office? Along with Akin, this clown belongs in snake-charming churches. This comment is disgraceful. If only the ignorant bible-bashers could confine themselves to comedy like the governor of Texas - the woman who unforgettably told us in response to the idea that the bible should be taught in Spanish that if English was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me. Come on, don't use your beliefs to make grotesque, immoral statements. Make us laugh.

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Mourdock, who is a favorite of the conservative Tea Party movement

You don't say.

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Creationists make it sound like a ‘theory’ is something you dreamt up after being drunk all night

— Isaac Asimov

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Cleo - "The trouble with these blaspheming fundamentalists is that they fit their religion around their beliefs, not the other way round."

My apologies - you are correct - partly.

These religious folks do do as you say, in particular in the case of abortion.

After acknowledging that these Christians tend to anchor their views on abortion to Biblical teachings, the specifics are then up for grabs:

Ban abortion in the case of incest?

Risk to the mother?

Rape?

I'll agree that this is where the religious views are shaped around their beliefs.

But that's even sadder - even Christians can't agree on abortion.

Or "sin".

Or "salvation" (many different ways)

Or whether "hell" is real or literal.

Or whether the Bible should be interpreted word for word or not.

The list goes on.

Quite frankly, the huge range of different beliefs within Christianity make it quite clear (to me at least) that all Christians are simply guessing, or as you (Cleo) correctly said, "they fit their religion around their beliefs."

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All religion aside, this is a thorny issue. Rape is a horrible crime. Intentionally killing a human is a horrible crime. A woman has the right to her body. A fetus has the right to life. But, I think the question was a loaded one. Is abortion to be used as a contraception? Condoms and pills perform that function. What's the ratio of abortions performed for convenience to those performed as the result of rape? I think that decision belongs to the woman and her doctor, along with any repercussions of conscience. But that burden shouldn't be a political football.

Is a human life to be valued less than that of puppies or kittens?

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Mourdock, who appeared to choke back tears as he spoke, said the only exception he could support was if the mother’s life was in danger.

“Life is that gift from God. I think that even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something God intended to happen,” Mourdock said, his voice thick with emotion.

Choking back tears... voice thick with emotion... well, break out the symphony orchestra with the John Williams score, this is deeply moving stuff. Damn those lefty journalists for leaving it out and trying to fool us all into thinking he's some kind of deranged evangelical loudmouth, eh?

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The purpose of this tripe called news is nothing more than rah rah fodder to ramp up Liberals to vote for Obama. Richard Mourdock was first elected to Statewide office in Indiana in 2006. Tea party didn't even exist then. He was re-elected in 2010 by over a million votes. The citizens of Indiana are quite familiar with him and his positions.

His position on abortion has been pretty much the same since 1992, when he first ran for Congress in Indiana (he was defeated then).

From his Wiki bio.

As a candidate for Congress in 1992, Mourdock stated that he would support legal abortion in the case of some "crisis pregnancies."

But apparently since the article doesn't bother to inform the reader that this is actually a long held stance of his on abortion going back 20 years, he has now morphed into an American version of the "Taliban".

The bio doesn't even bother to mention what Religion he adheres to is he Catholic? Baptist? Who knows. The only religious reference I found on him was at one time he was a "gasp" Christian missionary in Bolivia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Mourdock

Good lapdog Media for Obama on this reporting.

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"Romney, who on Monday launched statewide ads endorsing Mourdock, distanced himself on Tuesday from the remark by his fellow Republican. "

Oops! Flip-flop, flip-flop, flip-flop. So, if he endorsed him Monday, does that not indicate he believed fully in the man? And yet now he is distancing himself? Just goes to show you Romney cannot be relied on to make good choices.

sailwind: it's so utterly sad that you defend this man and what he said.

"But apparently since the article doesn't bother to inform the reader that this is actually a long held stance of his on abortion going back 20 years, he has now morphed into an American version of the "Taliban".

Why is it up to the reader to look up his statement from 20 years ago in regards to what he says NOW DURING HIS CAMPAIGN. You are trying to take a man's very serious and very negative comments about rape and blame it on the media and the reader instead of the man who said it. You're a true Republican, sailwind.

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Thanks for the balance, Sail.

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Sailwind, thanks for the details, but I don't care how long or which denomination this fellow belongs to. If he thinks his own beliefs about his "God's" intentions should impact how I live, he is NOT someone I want to vote for. Religion should be separate from state. Period. Trying to make everyone live by your interpretations of your deity will bring comparisons with other "theocracts."

And if the guy is heaving with emotion, that just sounds creepy.

I wish people would talk about economic policy.

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sailwind: "His position on abortion has been pretty much the same since 1992, when he first ran for Congress in Indiana (he was defeated then)."

So rape is not a crisis? pregnancy resulting from rape? Either you're wrong about him not changing his stance, sail, or else his stance has always been what he just said today. Either way, you've proven yourself the headline and media reporting is perfectly legitimate.

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Sail,

Seriously, you're starting to sound like one of those people that blame all their failures and shortcomings on their parents.

Whine away at the media for doing their job.

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Whine away at the media for doing their job.

Madverts,

Guess what. From the article.

The remark drew criticism from his Democratic opponent, congressman Joe Donnelly, as well as from Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney’s camp - even as Mourdock defended his words.

During the debate in New Albany, Indiana, Mourdock, Donnelly and Libertarian candidate Andrew Horning were asked about their views on abortion.

Do you know Joe Donnelly's position on abortion? Since the article doesn't bother telling us for any sort of balance here.

Donnelly is morally opposed to abortion, and is trying to make adoption more accessible to families. On the issue of abortion Donnely said “As a pro-life congressman, I am committed to protecting life at all stages.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Donnelly

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sailwind: ummm... sad that I have to point this out to you, but there's a difference between being 'pro-life' and saying 'pregnancy by rape is god's will'. But since you insist on deflection and supporting the comments of this morally bankrupt lout Murdouch, tell us Donnelly's opinion on abortion in regards to getting pregnant due to rape.

And as cleo asked earlier, why does Murdouch support abortion if the woman's life is in danger when that would also be god's will?

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His statements are a twisted and contorted attempt to rationalize a purported religious belief in the "right to life" to the voting public in order to support an absolutist political stance against abortion.

The psychotic candidate strong in his religious conviction arrives at the divinely inspired policy of promoting a pro-life right for rapists to procreate through criminal assault, and criminalizing a woman's right to abort even in the case of pregnancy resulting from a criminal assault.

And some people wonder why we have separation of religion and the state.

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But since you insist on deflection and supporting the comments of this morally bankrupt lout Murdouch, tell us Donnelly's opinion on abortion in regards to getting pregnant due to rape.

More than happy to since this "journalism" wouldn't touch this one with a ten foot pole.

Democrat Joe Donnelly, was a co-sponsor with Todd Akin of the bill with the "forcible rape" language. Under H.R. 3, only victims of “forcible rape” would qualify for federally funded abortions.

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Since none of these fools can have an bortion themselves, I don't give a hoot about their opinions.

Religious fundies in the American Taliban should stop trying to ram their morals down the throats of people.

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sailwind: "Democrat Joe Donnelly, was a co-sponsor with Todd Akin of the bill with the "forcible rape" language. Under H.R. 3, only victims of “forcible rape” would qualify for federally funded abortions."

Ah, so in other words quite different than Murdouch's stance. Thanks. Not sure why you brought up Donnelly then, since it really only proves they're different while you try to link them, but hey.

Madverts: "Since none of these fools can have an bortion themselves, I don't give a hoot about their opinions."

A very good point. They should have more female politicians weighing in on the issue.

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Where do these lunatics come from? surely he cannot believe this in the 21st Century?

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Madverts: "Since none of these fools can have an bortion themselves, I don't give a hoot about their opinions."

Religious zealots, whether Christian, Islamic or from any other religion, have zero right to deny a woman, victim of ANY kind of rape an abortion. Legislation to deny termination of an unwanted, especially criminally induced pregnancy, in itself is unjust, medieval and illegal.

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@wakarimasen 40% of the US public believe the story of the flood in Genesis is literally true. Neanderthal views like Murdouch's shouldn't shock anyone.

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He must be from Waco, Texas. The most absurd statement somebody can make, specially now that the Okinawa incident has taken place. Women are to be respected and treated like a weak vessel. Politicians should be submitted to psychiatric analysis before taking the oath of office. Presto has a good point. Molto buono ragazza.

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Obama needs all the help he can get, and Mourdock is helping him in Indiana.

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Agreed, Presto.

They should make a pseudo-state for the American Taliban. Send them all to Alaska or something where they can live happy joy-joy lives in flat-earth-land and have their very own special media that only reports on things they want to hear.

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"Republican Senate candidate Todd Akin"

He's STILL a candidate?

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"He's STILL a candidate?"

Indeed he is the dapper gent. God Bless the Republican party.

Trivia: The Cannonball Run has a campaign banner of Sean "Kill a Commie" O'Scanlon which reads, "God, guns and guts keep us safe from hippie nuts." when Samy Davis Jnr and Dino get stopped in their by a traffiic cop.

Sounds about right since Akin is still polling around 43% in Missouri. Outrageous.

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Madverts - The Republican Party is not supporting Akin, but they can't legally make him give it up.

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I know. There's still a chance he might get in.

Gonna be a bit difficult for Romney to back-peddle this one having launched state-wide ads endorsing Mourdock on Monday.

Then again, I'm sure those of you suffering from Romnesia won't even notice.

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It isn't Romney's fault that Mourdock came out with this after the endorsement.

The Romnesia joke is already old. There's plenty of things that Obama has said or promised that he has apparently forgotten all about or has not happened ( he needs 4 more years, lol ).

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Where the hell are the republicans getting these medieval idiots to run for office? I mean the only possible explanation is that they are traveling back in time to pull these Puritanical twits off the Mayflower.

And the right wing in the US has the audacity to call the Taliban backwards. Really? I don't see any real difference in the chronology of their thinking.

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Yes, Mourdock was being mean to Romney.

I thought I'd beat Sailwind to the punch.

Did it never pop into your mind that people should take responsibility for whom they are endorsing and what these individuals stand for?

Then again, I guess it's fair to ask "what does Romney stand for"?

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American Jihaad is still well alive among US congressional GOP members. This is actually one of their platforms.

This will bring a great impact in election 2012 damaging GOP. LOL.

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What a completely asinine comment!

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How about the liberals getting tougher and funding all of the abortions? Get someone like Bill Gates and his like. Why does the government have to pay for everything?

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Fact checking-Most congressional members and governors endorsed by Karl Rove are American Talibans. Karl Rove is a commander in chief of American Taliban.

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"the right wing in the US... the Taliban... I don't really see any difference in the chronology of their thinking"

Spend a weekend with a U.S. "rightwinger" and a weekend with the Taliban and you'll understand the difference, only thing is you might not survive the weekend with the Taliban.

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"Spend a weekend with a U.S. "rightwinger" and a weekend with the Taliban"

I didn't realize they had a student exchange thing going on.

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“Governor Romney disagrees with Richard Mourdock’s comments, and they do not reflect his views,” said Romney spokeswoman Andrea Saul.

Riiight. Uhm, what are Rmoney's views again on abortion. I get so confused...

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Wanted to say this guy smoked a bit too much weed, but it's scary to think he is a candidate for the SENATE.

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Am Roman Catholic and against all abortion, period end of discussion. I do not want to contribute to killing innocents. If you have a problem with it take it up with St Peters church. kapish? global watcher there are no American Taliban. Liberals hate people disagreeing with them.

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"even when life begins with that horrible situation of rape, that is something that God intended to happen." I don't know the God he speaks of, Dagon? Moloch? The God I believe in; He is Good, his love endures Forever. If the woman was raped, then she has every right to rid herself of the pregnancy, and further more, if the woman forgave the rapist and kept the child, It would only add more hot coal's to the head of the pervert rapist when he retires to hades. This politician, fit's right in with the rest of idiot's who say they love God, but their heart's are far from him, you actually have to read the bible to really understand what it say's. This guy formed his belief from hand me down religion, and never even once ever read the scripture's all the way though. His reward of guilt is already knocking on the door...

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T-Mack the pro abortion people say she has every right up to birth. Any time, any reason, so why does what he says upset you? My stand is the Defender of Christianities stance. Never for any reason, no discussion and am a minority in Japan. Remember, she also kills a bit of herself with the pervert. So it comes down to killing an innocent child to "punish" a pervert. I did look at him making the statement, maybe he should get the Biden/Quail award for best foot in mouth.

Anyhow if you do not like him do not vote for him. I will not vote for him or his party. Oh wait I can not vote :p Never fear dude he will win his race.

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Wow, that guy must be one good Catholic. But he should be trying to convert people to come to his church, not expecting the government to implement laws that enforce his religion.

I have to agree with Yuri on principle but it has to be up to the woman involved to decide. With a lot of support some women might decide to go through with the pregnancy. But the government has no business forcing such an agonizing decision. No woman asks to get raped and thus the rational arguements against abortion are undone by an inhuman act.

It's a double tragedy but this type of thing really is an individual choice.

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How can religious crackpots like this even be considered for office?

Simple. The people he wants to represent that are Republican think the same way he does. Otherwise they wouldn't have selected him over the other Republican candidates in the Republican Primary.

If you'll check back over all the posts I've made in the past, you'll never find that I've claimed Americans as a whole are a smart bunch. The re-election of Bush Jr. was the absolute proof of America's gullability. To quote that same Bush:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

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Talk about a manufactured controversy. The Democrats are desperately looking for another controversy, so they and their friends in the media jump on this. The statement, in context, isn't even close to what Todd Akin said. The candidate was merely stating his 100% pro-life stance. Now you may disagree with that, but it's not something unexpected or unheard of.

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"Talk about a manufactured controversy"

Agreed.

Even the power of Mitt's magic underwear couldn't protect Richard Mourdock from the secret mind control beams sent out from Mecca by Obama's supreme Imam that bombarded his brain into coming out with such a backwards-ass comment.

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As a citizen, Mourdock is allowed to voice his opinion. The right to free speech is central to American laws, even unpopular speech.

As a candidate for Senator, Mourdock should voice his stance on the top 50 political topics to allow voters to decide if they like where he stands or not.

I do not vote on a single item. I vote based on alignment on about 10 major issues, even then, a few of the candidate stances will be diametrically opposite of my beliefs. None of the political parties AND none of the candidates have my beliefs or my morals. I wish someone would actually run with similar ideals, but she/he would not be electable, since claiming to be a believer in "God" is mandatory to be elected. The further away from the party platform a candidate is, the harder it is to get campaign funding, so we get a bunch of left or right leaning crackpots running for office. The 2-party system is badly broken.

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This comment is already hurting GOP campaign. 14 more days to go. Hahaha

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Women have the right to decide whether of not to abort, the government has no right to enforce a ban on abortion simply because of religious views, unless the majority of America support his beliefs, which is almost slim to none. Here's my argument on pro-choice, think about the view point from the potential mother who is a victim of rape. She did not intend to have the child, and she definately doesn't want one from a rapist who savagely assaulted her. So more than likely she will probably not show as much care towards the child compared to a mother who wanted the child. Therefore the mother and the child, as well as the family that has to support to child will suffer due to lack of love and care, and also lack of financial support. Good luck trying to win the support from women across America Mourdock!

Fun fact to all those who support anti-abortion: Romania during the Cold war era banned abortion, which resulted with a large population of youth who became unemployed due to shitty economy, which resulted in violent crime skyrocketing by almost one hundred percent since the youth had nothing else better to do but cause mayhem and trouble. Since America is headed towards an economic slump, would having a larger population of unemployed children from mothers who don't even want to have them and therefore most likely not want to care for them, be a good idea for society in the future? To those who believe that life should be preserved before birth, Ok you are entitled to your beliefs and I respect that. But to the others?

Think of the future society resulting from ban on abortions, which can be similar to Clockwork Orange; a society largely dominated by the youth. They don't care about what the law says and also don't care about what their parents tell them because more than likely their parents just don't support them well enough and are mistreated because their father came from a rapist. So theyre roaming around town in gangs looking for trouble as well as lonely girls walking by themselves. They find a girl. And have their way with her. Nine months later she has a child who the girl doesn't want neither cares too much for since she was raped. the cycle repeats itself.

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DeploreOct. 25, 2012 - 02:07AM JST

Talk about a manufactured controversy. The Democrats are desperately looking for another controversy, so they and their friends in the media jump on this. The statement, in context, isn't even close to what Todd Akin said. The candidate was merely stating his 100% pro-life stance. Now you may disagree with that, but it's not something unexpected or unheard of.

NO. Our life depends on policy changes.

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crouching$amuraiHiddenNinja interesting if people are animals. Animals mate and are not accountable for their actions. Being able to abort a baby at any time leads to dehumanization of the whole. People become animals and do not act any better than animals. We are better than animals and I see pro choice people as being not responsible. Anyhow life begins when the sperm and egg come tougher and cell division starts. This whole story is hysteria nonsense and he would still not get support from pro choice if he agreed with allowing abortion if raped.

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I understand what the guy is trying to say, but damn, that has got to be among the worst ways of saying what he means.

Just had to respond to this inane statement.

Fun fact to all those who support anti-abortion: Romania during the Cold war era banned abortion, which resulted with a large population of youth who became unemployed due to shitty economy, which resulted in violent crime skyrocketing by almost one hundred percent since the youth had nothing else better to do but cause mayhem and trouble. Since America is headed towards an economic slump, would having a larger population of unemployed children from mothers who don't even want to have them and therefore most likely not want to care for them, be a good idea for society in the future?

So we should encourage women to murder the brats before they make trouble? Is that really the argument you want to make in favor of abortion?

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YuriOtani please pay special attention and give care to explaining the logic of what you just said. Humans ARE animals. We are because we have the same biological make up of every other animal. The difference between us and other animals is that our brains work in a much more intelligent capacity and we also have the ability to think through logic and explain them in sentences, which you still have yet to work on. Therefore if we have the ability to think and create logic, how does that make us irresponsible and hysteric if we are able to make a choice; hence pro-choice get it?

And animals do get raped and are forced to have babies, however the difference between them and humans is that men choose to rape a woman out of being really horny and wanting to do something violent whereas a male animal must mate with a female due to mating season. WHAT sets us apart from animals is that we are able to make the choice of having a baby, that doesn't make us into animals. So I see people who have babies because they forget to use protection or don't pull out fast enough as irresponsible. And please don't tell me how life is created. That has nothing to do with the argument of choice with abortion. lawyered.

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Actually Molenir If a woman is pregnant and doesn't want the child they have the choice to have an abortion. If the woman is forced to have a child and the child grows up angry and disgruntled from growing up, as well as being unemployed they have the higher possibility of causing more trouble than good. Would you rather have the government murder them when they're grown up and have the ability to express and feel emotions? Something which we call genocide in terms of people who are grown up suffer and die?

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The Republican Party has long believed—and has tried to legislate—the idea that rape isn't really that bad, especially because sometimes it's not really rape, and besides, if you end up impregnated by your rapist, just turn that frown upside down and be thankful for God's little gift to you. They've been saying this—and trying to legislate it—for years. It's not new.

It's not news. It's just the Republican Party.

Murdock's only erred in timing.

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Aside from the fact that he's a crazed religious fanatic of a republican, the only thing I can think of are the people in LOUISIANA that actually put this loon into his office. What would be his reasoning in cases of non-procreational prison rape between the same sex?

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God NEVER INTENDS for rape to happen!!!

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American Taliban and SuperPac is a bad cacktail drink mix.

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Are there any real numbers for abortions performed on victims of actual rapes compared to abortions performed as birth prevention? Just asking.

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1.5 million US women raped and 80,000 end up with pregnancy every year.

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YuriOtani, T-Mack the pro abortion people say she has every right up to birth. Any time, any reason, so why does what he says upset you? He's is just another self taught so called christian, who probably never read the bible even once trough in his life...If you believe, then know the scripture that say's if your right hand offend's you, cut it off, it is better to enter into heaven maimed, than to be thrown into hell whole. The same goes for if anything that offend's you including, but not limited to abortion. If he really knew god as a true believer, he would of never said such a thing. No one should think so highly of themselves than they ought too, for who is so wise that they can give God advice? or state what he would do or say?

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Serrano: "He's STILL a candidate?"

Yes. Quite the party you support.

"It isn't Romney's fault Murdouch came out with this after the endorsement"

Nope, but it's his fault he won't pull ads that still show Romney clearly endorsing him, isn't it? What's more, it's a question of character -- Romney endorsed the man, and since when you do endorse someone you do not fully support and believe in? It means Romney is a bad judge of character, if nothing else, and further proof that not only can he not be trusted, but he has no clue as to what he's doing.

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The Republican Party has long believed—and has tried to legislate—the idea that rape isn't really that bad, especially because sometimes it's not really rape, and besides, if you end up impregnated by your rapist, just turn that frown upside down and be thankful for God's little gift to you. They've been saying this—and trying to legislate it—for years. It's not new.

Sorry, but the Republican party is not the Taliban, as you seem to want to believe. They, like any group have the nutcases who claim to have similar views. Rather like Jeremiah Wright and the Dems. Heck, you can point to a bunch more loons who have equally extreme views. This does not mean all Dems, or even a minority of Dems are all idiotic morons who hate white people, it just means there are idiot democrats who do.

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Rape is no joke! Rape has to be one of the worst ways to hurt and humiliate another fellow HUMAN. That said, how in blazing hell can this idiot say GOD, if you believe in GOD, thinks it is OK, fine and dandy to rape?? Let me see if I can understand this guy's way of thinking. My daddy was a drug dealer, alcoholic, my daddy got sick of doing the nasty with my mommy, who was actually his sister etc...he rapes, incest his own sister, makes ME?? But according to the ideas of this politician, choking, holding back them tears, GULP, it is OK?? Mr.Romney, have fun defending your buddy over in loserville Indiana!!

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global, of those rape-related conceptions, how many are aborted, and how does that compare to the annual number of abortions of convenience ?

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Of approximately 800,000 reported abortions performed annually in USA , 1% according to CDC data are due to rape or incest. Just for context.

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Too true Herve. Planned Parenthood and pro-choice advocates love the rape and incest aspect, but it is a ridiculously small fraction of the majority of abortions performed in the US.

I'm not for abortion, but I don't advocate overturning Roe v Wade. People should make their own choices and it will be on them to have to deal with the consequences. If anything its they're fault for not taking better precautions (how many different types of contraceptives do we have these days????) during their sexual activities, except in cases of sexual assault.

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