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Wakarimasen
Japan should send a ship too.
Triring
Reclaimed land does not obtain EEZ and only 500m in terms of territorial water agreed in UNCLOS which PRC is also a Signatory of.
Moonraker
It probably needs to be done. Sadly. China needs to be shown.
CrazyJoe
Upon being notified of the mission having been completed, Obama proudly paraded around the White House grounds poking a stick at hornet nests demanding they build elsewhere.
wtfjapan
Obama proudly paraded around the White House grounds poking a stick at hornet nests demanding they build elsewhere. so what are the hornets going to do sting the President!? if thats the case theyll have to send in the exterminators, A US Naval Fleet
shonanbb
Japan, Vietnam, Philippines and any other country with a dispute with the Chinese over these islands should send warships also...all at the same time.
Madverts
Thank-you USA for standing up to the Eastern bully. You've make some gawd awful decisions sometimes but we still love you for occasionaly making the right decision with your military might xx
bass4funk
I am always so confused by the way liberals think. one day they're hating on the US and the military and on the next, total praise and gratitude. Perplexing, very perplexing.
nath
Actual you've just shown the flaw in your thinking. You group anyone who holds a different opinion than you as "Liberal", then you express confusion when all those people who you've pigeonholed into a single category don't all hold the same opinions. The reality is that your classification system is lacking and doesn't reflect the real world.
CrazyJoe
If we allow this Chinese aggression, we are ceding the China Sea to them--forever. These freedom of navigation exercises are a necessity, not only to let China know we're not playing their game, but also to let Brunei, Taiwan, Malaysia, the Philippines, and Vietnam that we won't stand idle.
Nessie
Doesn't international law have provisions governing artificial islands? It doesn't seem like a "he says/she says" situation.
lostrune2
All internationally-recognized maps label those as international waters under international jurisdiction of navigation, so no country (even SE Asian countries) should have a problem when naval ships follow the rules through those waters. Without that international recognition on their side, China's case has nowhere to go, so there's no case.
Can't just prop up an artificial land and call the area around it sovereign state; otherwise, countries would be propping up artificial lands on each other's doorsteps.
Furthermore, like real estate property rights and adverse possession, if ya don't protect the rights of international waters, ya risk losing those rights and that claim in such area. So ya have to constantly exercise those international rights - otherwise, use it or lose it.
sf2k
Can I claim an island? Seems to be trendy
bass4funk
No, just the lack of selective consistency that both parties project, but it's usually liberals that overwhelmingly selective when they can't decide which team they really want to route for.
I was being facetious.
Actually it points out the hypocrisy that the majority of liberals reside in.
nath
Let me once again summarize your post Bass (actually, almost all your posts):
I know you are, but what am I?"
bass4funk
I love how liberals scurry from the truth.
nath
And again you pigeonhole everyone who disagrees with you into a single category.
presto345
A different response was reported in other news:
The foreign ministry in Beijing condemned it as "illegal".In a statement, ministry spokesman Lu Kang described the operation as a "threat to China's sovereignty", adding that Beijing would "resolutely respond to any country's deliberately provocative actions".
jerseyboy
Good. About time the U.S. -- namely Obama -- shows China that we will not allow her to bully the smaller nations of the Pacific.
bass4funk
No, not everyone, just the Kool aid drinkers.
As if the Chinese are afraid of Obama. Worked so well so far everywhere else, the Mid East, NK, Russia. LOL
Xenjy
I think The United States is the only country that would be able to do this without fear. I have read about other countries being run off from these disputed reclaimed islands by the Chinese military. While I believe the US does have imperialistic tendencies, I do not believe this to be the case. They really are just trying to maintain a balance of power in that area, and they are the only ones that can do it. Keep it up!
kwatt
It seems that boycotting as many goods made in China as possible is much better than sending warship there. Start new war?
bicultural
In. Your. Face.
Serrano
“We will fly, sail, and operate anywhere in the world that international law allows.”
Who writes the international laws?
GW
ok China if these facilities are for safe navigation, safety etc how about this, INVITE participation from ALL ASEAN countries, Japan, US NZ AUS etc to come ashore & help set up the shop EH!!
I am awaiting your positive response, HOWEVER unlikely that may be!
toshiko
@WakarimasenOCT. 27, 2015 - 12:54PM JST Japan should send a ship too.
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China created the island. Are you suggesting J to steal it?
Wc626
No. Obviously, wakarimasen is simply stating that Japan along with all other nations have the right to navigate international waters outside of the exclusive 12 nautical mile radius.
LoL@bass. Git u a case beer for that comment.
Triumvere
Good lord, Bass4funk. I hate to put words into Madverts' mouth, but I'd hesitate to guess that he pauses to consider the context before deciding whether or not approve of any particular use of military force. Fancy that.
Liberals may be an unfathomable mystery, but fortunately for us you are not, Bass4funk; it's all Red Team, all the time - come hell or high water.
Wc626
@San Diegan. No. Let them two heavyweights duke it out. . . . they usually make good points.
Black Sabbath
Looks like the US military ain't that bad after all...
Fadamor
The land China has "reclaimed" used to be submerged during high tide. This is why any effort to claim the now built-up land is sovereign to any country and therefore gets a 12 NM territorial waters provision will not hold up in international court. The U.S. was simply demonstrating that.
chubbychub
USA government , can't wait to start WW3 with nukes.
notasap
The reaction of the Chinese does more to make the case that they are a paper-tiger and not a real superpower than some destroyer sailing through the area ever could. Real superpowers like the USA just note that a foreign vessel was within such and such on a free-sea transit. A weak power over-reacts and is left exposed. This is also why the Russian bombers making moves towards the US do not provoke the outrage that they would if the bombers were US and were making moves towards Russia. The US knows it is a power, it doesn't need to prove anything.
Saketown
Good Move Washington! Good Move!
This incursion by Communist China and their corrupt vision of Communizing the Pacific Region must be Halted!
And Outstanding job to the Officers and Crew of the USS Lassen - Bravo Zulu!
bass4funk
Really? How? So we should allow China to control an area of the ocean with this incursion that THEY declare it's theirs when it's in international waters, which is affecting everyone in and around that region of the ASEAN alliance. Question, where does China have the right to just build Islands in an area that belongs to everyone? And don't worry, we won't come close to WW3 and definitely NOT with this president. I'm actually surprised that the president would even take this step, but let's see how far it goes and what both sides will do. No one wants a war, but what China is doing is just nuts.
nath
China is not communist, and they most definitely don't want to 'Communize' the pacific. They'd rather turn it into their own twisted version of extreme capitalism.
chubbychub
Self appoint global policeman US government, will say black is white and white black period, don't agree will over throw any governments who doesn't agree with US government view.
Where is the WMD and supporting ISIS US government are pretty good at that.
lostrune2
Dunno why anyone would be against the freedom of navigation on international waters.
Isn't that freedom worth protecting for everyone?
The world has enough territories claimed by governments. The last thing the world needs is losing even more freedom of navigation.
nath
Whose against it?
...well, other than the Chinese.
lostrune2
Have ya checked this thread