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U.S. engaging with Venezuela amid sanctions reconsideration

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yet the Biden authorities won’t allow any names other than Biden not allow any write in votes on their own Florida ballot.

Lol yes. That would be state party officials in one state. Pretty pathetic to compare that to what is happening in Venezuela. Is there an authoritarian the Right won't defend?

The point is that evidently Venezuela wouldn’t sell Biden oil cheap enough or that it was supposed to be a secret and they announced it.

Wouldn't sell "Biden" oil? Nonsense framing.

Also, if you weren't paying attention Venezuela just had passed a referendum in favor of annexing more than half of Guyana.

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The US better stipulate that part of the deal is Venezuela leaves Guyana alone!

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BlacklabelToday 08:01 am JST

The point is that evidently Venezuela wouldn’t sell Biden oil cheap enough or that it was supposed to be a secret and they announced it.

now it’s election time so we get to see the “tough guy gonna sanction everyone” Biden cosplay.

1) Canada has plenty of oil, so it isn't for us. 2) You would be telling us how your Orange Menace is so strong due to his scowl and massive gut, I guess, for the same set of actions.

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Now he is angry and wants his pound of flesh. Watch Nuland and the neo cons in his admin; they are capable of anything.

Complete and total nonsense.

Any thoughts on the Maduro administration actually wanting to annex large swaths of neighboring Guyana? I predict very soon you'll be pro that invasion as well.

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Brazil and the US just want the oil - surprise, surprise - whereas Venezuela has never laid down it's very strong claim over the area

Actually, it's Venezuela that wants the oil. Under Hugo Chavez he considered the issue settled. Until oil was found.

Machado is a foreign puppet/muppet like Guaido before her - they bend over to the neo-colonial powers and their main popularity is in the imaginations of people living in other countries. 

lol And Maduro is a dicator. Even assuming what you wrote is true, is that better?

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Another utter mistruth. Not sure whether intentional or through ignorance

Wrong again. Nice try.

https://www.elnacional.com/asamblea-nacional/asamblea-nacional-ratifico-la-soberania-de-venezuela-sobre-el-esequibo/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Venezuela#2006_changes

Lol Does that mean Venezuela gets to invade it and steal the oil?

In 2011 Chavez heavily objected to Guyana's unilateral attempts to delimit the sea border, which means extend its continental shelf by a further 150 nautical miles - an illegal action and one in which is a big issue here.

Yes, and then Venezuela went and did the same thing.

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Desert TortoiseToday  06:57 am JST

The US better stipulate that part of the deal is Venezuela leaves Guyana alone!

More importantly, Machado needs to be allowed to run for president.

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Venezuela is another messed up oil state, further messed up by meddling from the USA, Russia and China.

Empires and empire-wannabes: leave sovereign states alone, and find alternatives to burning huge quantities of fossil fuels. Venezuela with all its oil and gas, should be one of the richest in the world, instead it's an aging gas station like Russia and several other wealthy nations, with a handful of powerful autocrats running the country and living lavishly, while many ordinary citizens have so few opportunities that they're leaving their homes and homeland. Climate change, caused in large part by burning huge quantities of burned pollution causing fumes are are forcinng many from their homes.

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Venezuela potentially has legitimate claims there

Does that justify them invading Guyana?

Knee jerk painting Venezuela as the offender is crass simplification of a historical wrong while casually ignoring the history that underpins it.

If the shoe fits. Rather belliclose to have referendums on stealing land from your neighbors.

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JJEToday 02:28 pm JST

Machado is a foreign puppet/muppet like Guaido before her - they bend over to the neo-colonial powers and their main popularity is in the imaginations of people living in other countries. Their obsequiousness on this very issue makes them fringe and irrelevant in domestic politics.

Yeah, if by that you mean she isn't simp for Putin. I can see why you hate her so much.

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Who knows... they may be bound for Finland. And who wouldn't be.

It's also disingenuous to suggest poverty in Venezuela is the creation of Chavez-Maduro governments (if not completely dishonest).

The US sanctions are because they are exercising sovereignty over their natural resources. And no one lives in poverty there either according to the yellow-brick-road NATO fanboy theory.

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JJEDec. 6 07:20 pm JST

Who knows... they may be bound for Finland. And who wouldn't be.

It's also disingenuous to suggest poverty in Venezuela is the creation of Chavez-Maduro governments (if not completely dishonest).

The US sanctions are because they are exercising sovereignty over their natural resources. And no one lives in poverty there either according to the yellow-brick-road NATO fanboy theory.

Is that a dark orange spot for Venezuela? Why yes, yes it is:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_byGDP(PPP)_per_capita

8 million didn't just leave the country because it is repressive hell hole. Well I mean some did, but that level of displacement has got to be due to desperate economic conditions.

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JJEToday 04:07 pm JST

No, clearly not.

The comment stated that her popularity base is with foreigners (who despise Chavez-Maduro) and the ultimate reason for her domestic unpopularity is her obsession with serving foreign interests. A prime example is supporting US-led sanctions on her own country.

Venezuelans flee that country in droves it is such a wreck. While you can say they are just the foreigners now, there must be a large amount that remain that are fed up with poverty.

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No, clearly not.

The comment stated that her popularity base is with foreigners (who despise Chavez-Maduro) and the ultimate reason for her domestic unpopularity is her obsession with serving foreign interests. A prime example is supporting US-led sanctions on her own country.

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Again. More than spurious.

That article is by a known opposition newspaper, covering non-governing measures by the unpopular opposition in the national assembly, as opposed to measures by the actual legitimate government.

It also quotes a former leader of Guyana alleging that Chavez said he gave it up (as opposed to Chavez himself actually saying he did so)

It then it goes on to some bizarre platitudes Fidel Castro apparently made - which amount to hearsay - and are presented as fact and proof that the matter is settled.

It's completely misleading to assert Chavez surrendered any territorial claim. Even worse to rely on blatant misinformation or spread it around.

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The point is that evidently Venezuela wouldn’t sell Biden oil cheap enough or that it was supposed to be a secret and they announced it.

now it’s election time so we get to see the “tough guy gonna sanction everyone” Biden cosplay.

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Hopefully it won't be a defensive intervention-style operation triggered by dishonest, turn-coated non-implementation of signed deals like elsewhere.

It should be settled peacefully, the oil carved up fairly that gives both sides a fair share of the pie while righting historical wrongs.

Brazil and the US just want the oil - surprise, surprise - whereas Venezuela has never laid down it's very strong claim over the area.

Machado is a foreign puppet/muppet like Guaido before her - they bend over to the neo-colonial powers and their main popularity is in the imaginations of people living in other countries. Their obsequiousness on this very issue makes them fringe and irrelevant in domestic politics.

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Hugo Chavez considered the issue settled

Another utter mistruth. Not sure whether intentional or through ignorance

Chavez changed the national flag of Venezuela - adding an 8th star to represent that area.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Venezuela#2006_changes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guayana_Province

In 2011 Chavez heavily objected to Guyana's unilateral attempts to delimit the sea border, which means extend its continental shelf by a further 150 nautical miles - an illegal action and one in which is a big issue here.

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Venezuela potentially has legitimate claims there. It all stems from the US border arbitration more than a century ago - specifically 19th-century disagreements over where the border between Guyana, then a British colony, and Venezuela should lie. In 1899 Washington intervened under the Monroe Doctrine, which "protected" Latin America from European colonial powers.

Important to note the 1899 US-led arbitration has always been rejected by Caracas - it was actually "represented" in that charade by the US; so that is null and void.

The Geneva Agreement of 1966 proposed a roadmap towards an eventual satisfactory resolution, in which the UN was given a role - this is what Caracas supports.

In the recent ballot, Venezuelans rejected the 1899 arbitration and supported the 1966 agreement as the only valid instrument for resolving the situation - this is very important when considering the situation.

Another issue is Guyana’s unilateral attempts to delimit the sea border with Venezuela.

Knee jerk painting Venezuela as the offender is crass simplification of a historical wrong while casually ignoring the history that underpins it.

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Biden didn't get his oil on his terms to save his economy and his tanking administration. Now he is angry and wants his pound of flesh. Watch Nuland and the neo cons in his admin; they are capable of anything.

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