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U.S. government partially shuts down in fight over Trump's border wall

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Trumps number one campaign issue when he ran for and won the presidency was to do something about illegal immigration and to build the wall. Trump must get the wall built for any chance at being re-elected. Dems know that and since they want him to be a one term president they must not let him win.

Dems say they want to get citizenship for illegals brought to the country as children and Trump has indicated in the past that he is willing to make a deal on that issue - so there is an avenue for both sides to get something. I just don’t think Dems can bring themselves to compromise on anything - their hatred for Trump is just so palpable and deep. Even if it means having more deportations they can in no way stomach allowing Trump to take credit for getting the southern wall and for pushing through a major success on what to do with the approximately 1.7 million illegals brought into the country as children.

Dems are maniacal in their #resistance and are incapable of rising above their hatred in order to accomplish anything positive for the American people. Get out the popcorn this partial shutdown could last for a while.

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"The alternative campaign (Ladders to Get Over Trump's Wall)"

We need another alternative campaign - Catapults to Catapult Pelosi, Schumer and the Rest of the Democrats Over the Wall.

Oh my...

Democrats may regret standing against Trump’s border wall

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdveJs40TEI

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Everyone knows that there will be no wall. Too bad we can't fast-forward to January. Merry Christmas, federal government workers!

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$14,298,482 of $1.0B goal

(https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall)

Come on Trumps!!! What are you waiting for??? Fund now!!! Or you are not a real Trump supporter.

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A wall isn't going to stop anybody and shutting down the government just before Christmas; leaving all those folks without a paycheck, is just Grinch-like. I support good border control but this is just a really lame publicity stunt.

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Apprehensions on the Southwest border peaked in 2000 at 1.64 million and have generally declined since, totaling 303,916 in 2017.

https://www.factcheck.org/2018/06/illegal-immigration-statistics/

Yep, it's a crisis and we need to act NOW to...continue the trend that's already happening for free.

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well, I agree, both parties are complete idiots

Trump? He's a poor businessman. Compared to a real businessman like Bill Gates. Compared to Bill Gates Trump is a real idiot.

every celebrity that I have met as well as every politician that I have met has had the biggest walls and the biggest gates

Yes, remember when we were at the barbeque at Bruce Willis's house? Wow, he has high walls and private security. We flew into Beverly Hills by private jet.

So then anyone can come and stay at your house?

What does this have to do anything? I don't know anyone who is force to have them stay with them legal or illegal.

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Dems are going to the wall to keep the de facto open borders

Borders will stay open anyway even with the wall (with ladders)

Illegal immigrants are key part of their political base

Reagan is the one who inked 3M greencard amnesty. Also, Trump stopped snatching children which made him look weak.

Well most illegals are here nowadays because they overstay their visas

DON'T SAY THAT!!! Trump people are programmed to think that 100% of illegals are Mexicans and they are constantly running across the border like a zombie infection.

is he also a racist? He hates Latinos as well?

yes

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Well most illegals are here nowadays because they overstay their visas. Do you hear Trump saying that they are invaders carrying diseases?

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Dems are going to the wall to keep the de facto open borders that is the current state of American immigration policy. Illegal immigrants are key part of their political base. Legal immigrants- not so much.

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Good. The Dems won't give Trump any concessions, so he shouldn't give them any back. Not like they unironically celebrate Christmas anyway.

Ok, at least one liberal is honest that border security means nothing to him, I appreciate honesty.

The wall is just a vehicle for Trump to constantly talk about Latinos and rape, crime, disease, murder, etc.

No, it’s to stop the influx of crime from criminals that want to come in, I mean even the mayor of Tijuana thinks so. So let me ask you a question, is he also a racist? He hates Latinos as well? He also said, they bring crime, drugs, not to mention trash. I’ll give you time to dig out of that one.

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The gofundme wall is up to 14 million in 5 days. #1. Mostly small donations. Looks like the MSM and the Dems are on the WRONG side of the issue........again. LOL

This has to be the funniest comment ever. I genuinely burst out laughing when I read it.

Less than 5c per American. That's not going to build a wall. Nor is $5bn. Trump's estimate is $25bn.

The alternative campaign (Ladders to Get Over Trump's Wall) has raised $116,000 in only 2 days.

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Lol.. the Democrats are in hilarious panic mode... enjoy the show!

"The Syria move was widely criticized, even by senior Republicans in Congress"

Oh, well, we can't have the president getting us out of wars - that is intolerable! Impeachable even!

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People think this is that this is unrealistic but I have seen Trump's secret plan for the wall.

It is very high with a tooth shaped top to the rampart with stick figure men at the top. There is a sign above the men that says "good guyz with guns".

Below it is a big blue scribble with a label that says "mote". There are some crudely drawn shapes within the blue, marked as "Sharkes and Big Allygators".

One of them can be seen eating a small brown stick figure.

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The wall is just a vehicle for Trump to constantly talk about Latinos and rape, crime, disease, murder, etc.

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whatever gets the job done.

The wall is a distraction from the real problems plaguing America. Trump himself is in the long run a far greater existential threat to America than undocumented immigrants from Central America. Other more pressing issues: gerrymandering, voter suppression, electoral and campaign finance reform, financial sector regulation, environmental protection, progressive energy policies, sustainable wages, health care, opioid addiction, depression, social security, sentencing reform, infrastructure, gun violence, poverty, education, social fragmentation, etc . . .

Blaming it all on others is a cop out. That's what the stupid wall is all about. Somebody's got to step up to the plate and face the issues.

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And others don’t understand that to win the electoral college for a state you have to win the popular vote in that state.

We already covered this, Black. I knowTrump won the the EC, but lost the popular vote.

Donny's silly wall is unpopular. As a result gerrymandering, the GOP wields more power than they should given voter totals. This is why there is a government shutdown- because few are in favor of idiotic Republican ideas. But hey, you won the EC. ;)

In fact there are 50 states or 57 according to others.

No idea what this is about, but I'm sure its breathtaking, as per usual.

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the $5 billion

Wow! Is that a Xmas special on a whole 2,000 mile x 50 ft wall complete with all the bells, whistles, and sensors for only $5 billion? Like what you see on Jurassic park? What a deal. Let's do it! Hurry Kids. This Holiday price special only lasts through the holidays. APPROVE NOW! A 95% discount (USUAL PRICE: 100B$)

The gofundme wall is up to 14 million

Great! Now we have $US 5,015,000,000 that I'm sure it will go a long way towards a whole 2,000 mile x 50 ft wall

Any Trump supporter who does not contribute at least $500 to the wall is not a true Trump supporter. Come on Trump supporters. Only $500. Please go here:

https://www.gofundme.com/TheTrumpWall

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Are these the same polls that said Trump stood no chance of winning the election? Don't trust polls. They can be easily manipulated to get the result you want. We have no idea where the poll was done and what questions were asked.

No, the polls were right on the money. They correctly predicted Clinton winning the popular vote. What the polls did not predict was imbalance between the EC and the popular vote.

Those that don't understand this don't understand how polls work, and are probably puzzled at why they can't get their silly wall built.

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According to a Reuters/Ipsos poll in late November, only 31 percent of those surveyed said improved border security should be one of the top three priorities for Congress.

Are these the same polls that said Trump stood no chance of winning the election? Don't trust polls. They can be easily manipulated to get the result you want. We have no idea where the poll was done and what questions were asked.

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Trump tried to blame Democrats.

“Problems start from the top, and they have to get solved from the top, and the President’s the leader, and he’s got to get everybody in a room, and he’s got to lead. And he doesn’t do that, he doesn’t like doing that, that’s not his strength. And that’s why you have this horrible situation going on in Washington. It’s a very, very bad thing and it’s very embarrassing worldwide.” --Donald Trump - Fox & Friends, 20 September 2013

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Twas the Night before Christmas

and all through the GOP House

not a creature was stirring

not even to keep the lights on.

Healthcare reform? - Failure. Tax reform? - Even at a $1.5 trillion stimulus, enormously unpopular. Wall? - Nope. And now a shut down. An appropriate way to end two years of GOP Congressional power. When the Dems come in on 1/3, they'll get the lights back on.

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The gofundme wall is up to 14 million in 5 days. #1. Mostly small donations. Looks like the MSM and the Dems are on the WRONG side of the issue........again. LOL

You write that as if there is some logic behind it that makes sense...

(hint: there isn’t)

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The world view of most Americans demands this wall and immigration control.

And yet, the majority of Americans don’t want the wall.

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The gofundme wall is up to 14 million in 5 days. #1. Mostly small donations. Looks like the MSM and the Dems are on the WRONG side of the issue........again. LOL

Now, back to the snarky pseudo-quipy comments from left (wrong) side.

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It is that wall that the American people want. The world view of most Americans demands this wall and immigration control.

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Good. The Dems won't give Trump any concessions, so he shouldn't give them any back. Not like they unironically celebrate Christmas anyway.

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Humpty Trumpty wanted a wall

Humpty Trumpty had a great fall

All Mattis' horses, and all Mueller's men

Sent Humpty Trumpty to the state pen.

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Might as well close the USA government down while Trump is in office. Or get a babysitter

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Trump = doofus

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