UAW files charges against Trump, Musk for trying to intimidate workers

filed charges with the National Labor Relations Board against Donald Trump and Tesla CEO Elon Musk over attempts to threaten and intimidate workers.

Those two titans of corporatocracy want a country where workers have even fewer rights, and given the corrupt Supreme Court with its own corporatocracy bias, the US under Trump/Vance backed by the globe's wealthiest might shift even farther to the right to become a nation that looks like what Mussolini and the little Austrian corporal wanted in the 1930s. The US decided during the era of the robber barons that the Constitution should prevail and that the robber barons must not have complete control. Hopefully the US electorate, made up of lots of working people will see to it that the Musk/Thiel billionaire caste are reminded that workers want the few rights they have upheld and will vote against the GOP candidates.

Totally warranted. Make sure no union member votes for these losers.

The legality question aside, this was an incredibly stupid thing for Trump to say. Pro-labor my foot. Any laborers actually believe Trump and Musk care about them?

The United Auto Workers Union said on Tuesday it has filed charges with the National Labor Relations Board against Donald Trump and Tesla CEO Elon Musk over attempts to threaten and intimidate workers.

That any workers vote MAGA is a triumph of making the electorate vote against their economic interests in favor of fear-mongering, bigotry and religious fervor.

https://aflcio.org/press/releases/donald-trumps-catastrophic-and-devastating-anti-labor-track-record

And Musk should be ashamed since his professed inspiration, Iain Banks, was a strong supporter of Scottish Socialist Workers.

Evil people always support each other, that is their chief strength.

. . . Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn

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The legality question aside, this was an incredibly stupid thing for Trump to say

add it to the long list.

musk and trump act like robber barons of old.

Those cases would be heard by administrative judges 

I hope the cases do not make it to the Supreme Court, where justices appointed by Republicans have shown they are similar to Trump, who was just bought off by Elon X, and some justices have been for sale to the highest bidders. Given it's been the billionaire caste that has been buying off the justices, I fear the workers could get stiffed. Workers need to look out for their best interests, and that is rarely allowing the corporate bosses to get even richer, while the bosses want the workers to believe they will be trickled down on. Some corporatocracy extremists claim that it's the 'job creaters' that are paramount, forgetting the roles labor has always played in keeping economies going. But maybe some of the extremists have never had to actually work for a living, instead just lived off inheritance.

That any workers vote MAGA is a triumph of making the electorate vote against their economic interests in favor of fear-mongering, bigotry and religious fervor. 

I think the problem is NOT with the union workers who are heavily Pro-Trump, but the Union leaders are the problem, so it is a bit misleading since they are more in the pockets of the Democrat party

And Musk should be ashamed since his professed inspiration, Iain Banks, was a strong supporter of Scottish Socialist Workers.

Was, exactly. Anyone visiting Detroit should witness firsthand the impact of union demands on the domestic auto industry. The old Packard plant, in particular, is a stark example of the industry's decline, resembling a war-torn site. While the Big Three's downfall can be partly attributed to managerial arrogance, excessive union demands also played a significant role. Today, GM is often described more as a healthcare provider that happens to manufacture a few cars.

Harris' best weapon to garner votes is Trump's mouth.

Both Trump and Musk are not good for the country or the world.

Both Trump and Musk are not good for the country or the world.

Considering how the site blew up, I would disagree. This is one of the reasons why people cutting their cable and ditching their TV's for wanting to hear other voices, Youtube and X offers a variety of choices for obtaining information, we don't have to submit or be forced to listening to the one-sided partisan msm.

@bss4F:  Big Three's downfall can be partly attributed to managerial arrogance

I would call it managerial and investor incompetence, and being out-competed by Japanese and German carmakers that understood what US car buyers wanted, and that was NOT the planned obsolesence of poorly engineered, gas guzzling US cars (called 'yank'' or 'septic tanks' by some) made by the Big 3. Face it the big 3 could not keep up with the times and were out-competed; reminder that Musk/Thiel and their billionare big tech brothers see 'competition as a negative, prefer monopolies instead.

I would call it managerial and investor incompetence, and being out-competed by Japanese and German carmakers that understood what US car buyers wanted, and that was NOT the planned obsolesence of poorly engineered, gas guzzling US cars (called 'yank'' or 'septic tanks' by some) made by the Big 3. Face it the big 3 could not keep up with the times and were out-competed; reminder that Musk/Thiel and their billionare big tech brothers see 'competition as a negative, prefer monopolies instead.

Ok, so what does that have to do with what I said earlier about UAW Union leaders being beholden to the DNC?

Ok, so what does that have to do with what I said earlier about UAW Union leaders being beholden to the DNC?

They're not "beholden" to the DNC, but if they were you can hardly blame them when Trump (the GOP nominee) is openly cheering on the firing of striking workers.

Gotta love that evil photo of Musk our good old unbiased Reuters came up with, LOL.

Harris' best weapon to garner votes is Trump's mouth.

Fair point. Trump is not doing himself any favors with that.

Youtube and X offers a variety of choices for obtaining information, we don't have to submit or be forced to listening to the one-sided partisan msm.

This narrative that a MSM is controlled by lib leftists is peddled by corporate funded right-wing internet personalities peddling conspiracies.

The MSM is peddling a neo-liberal marketolatry and marginalizing real left wing voices like Sanders, as Noam Chomsky already explained in Manufacturing Consent.

https://chomsky.info/consent01/

bass4funk

Was, exactly. Anyone visiting Detroit should witness firsthand the impact of union demands on the domestic auto industry. The old Packard plant, in particular, is a stark example of the industry's decline, resembling a war-torn site. While the Big Three's downfall can be partly attributed to managerial arrogance, excessive union demands also played a significant role. Today, GM is often described more as a healthcare provider that happens to manufacture a few cars.

Meanwhile Musk’s Tesla salary is 56 billion. Don’t talk to me about excessive union demands.

So he’s lost the Black vote, the women’s vote, the young vote and now the blue collar worker.

How many angry white men are there? I don’t think it’s 80 million.

45 wants to take away your car and make you drive an ev. He’ll want you to stop eating red meat and give up your guns next. It’s a slippery slope.

They're not "beholden" to the DNC,

The Union Leaders absolutely are.

but if they were you can hardly blame them when Trump (the GOP nominee) is openly cheering on the firing of striking workers.

Or when Biden lied to the coal miners and told them he would never close them down if they voted for him and what did he do on day one?

Fair point. Trump is not doing himself any favors with that.

Doing better actually.

bass4funk

Or when Biden lied to the coal miners and told them he would never close them down if they voted for him and what did he do on day one?

Remember when Trump made those big promises to the West Virginia coal miners in 2016? He told them he would protect their jobs, but he didn't follow through.

So he’s lost the Black vote,

What insane liberal fantasy is this again? LOL

https://www.newsweek.com/heres-why-young-black-men-like-me-are-voting-trump-opinion-1936455

https://youtu.be/sD8CxDKjz4s?si=R_wmXlO_E8-t7ZBu

8% last time and 12% is just devastating for the DNC

the women’s vote,

Not really

the young vote

If they come out and vote at all

and now the blue collar worker. 

What? No, not entirely for either side

https://rollcall.com/2024/02/05/lawmakers-see-blue-collar-voters-as-key-in-biden-trump-rematch/

How many angry white men are there? I don’t think it’s 80 million.

Add to that, angry, Black and Latinos...

This narrative that a MSM is controlled by lib leftists is peddled by corporate funded right-wing internet personalities peddling conspiracies. 

Ahh, the truth hurts and the left thought they were the smartest tool in the shed. Up the game.

The MSM is peddling a neo-liberal marketolatry and marginalizing real left wing voices like Sanders, as Noam Chomsky already explained in Manufacturing Consent.

That so many workers cringe of thinking about.

the union workers who are heavily Pro-Trump,

Right. And Biden didn't win in 2020, Harris' crowds are all AI generated, and Trump is waaaay ahead in the polls.

Tell me, you think workers should get less and Musk a lot more?

Sounds like it.

Or when Biden lied to the coal miners and told them he would never close them down if they voted for him and what did he do on day one?

What does that have to do with Trump cheering on firing striking laborers? That's illegal, not that rightists care about breaking the law.

'You want to quit?' They go on strike - I won't mention the name of the company - but they go on strike. And you say: 'That's okay, you're all gone.'"

What a moron.

Remember when Trump made those big promises to the West Virginia coal miners in 2016? He told them he would protect their jobs, but he didn't follow through.

Yes, because he was bogged down by a hostile House that thwarted his agenda and the man was under a two-year investigation about a phony Russian collusion delusion hoax, how could we forget?

45 wants to take away your car and make you drive an ev. He’ll want you to stop eating red meat and give up your guns next. It’s a slippery slope.

I'm not sure where you got that from, but if that doesn't seem like lib out of this galaxy telltale fantasy garbage, I don't know what is.

bass4funk

Remember when Trump made those big promises to the West Virginia coal miners in 2016? He told them he would protect their jobs, but he didn't follow through.

Yes, because he was bogged down by a hostile House that thwarted his agenda and the man was under a two-year investigation about a phony Russian collusion delusion hoax, how could we forget?

Trump's inability to multitask makes him unsuitable for the presidency. Following his election, he failed to address the concerns of coal miners.

Full speed ahead, Cap'n, to November's "Harris Iceberg" (unless Judge Merchan sinks him in September).

Remember when Trump made those big promises to the West Virginia coal miners in 2016? He told them he would protect their jobs, but he didn't follow through.

Golly. Imagine a politician not following through on their promises.

yes, just like bass4funk posted.

I'm not sure where you got that from, but if that doesn't seem like lib out of this galaxy telltale fantasy garbage,

Republicans?

I don't know what is.

You don’t know, I see.

because he was bogged down by a hostile House that thwarted his agenda and the man was under a two-year investigation about a phony Russian collusion delusion hoax,

And yet he still had time to play 261 rounds of golf, tweet, and call in to his favorite tee-vee shows. What a multitasker!

Trump's inability to multitask makes him unsuitable for the presidency.

Wrong he has been, it's like this, my kids can ask for anything they want, they can wish for anything they like, but if I don't give them any money they can't do squat, now they can find other ways to make it, but that involves more time and effort, same exact analogy. Trump did what he could given the circumstances.

Following his election, he failed to address the concerns of coal miners.

Given what the Dems did, I understand and let's not forget, or should I say, the coal miners will never forget what Biden did, keep that in mind, they sure will this November.

All leftists losing it, when , blinded by the democrats that don't even have any policies to share. KH stealing Trump's policies, Tim walz stolen valor, hiding the true about Biden issues, yeah , " cheap fakes", basing all their camping on identity politics..

Remember KH still the vice president,the border zar and she hasn't accomplished anything.

bass4funk

Trump's inability to multitask makes him unsuitable for the presidency.

Wrong he has been, it's like this, my kids can ask for anything they want, they can wish for anything they like, but if I don't give them any money they can't do squat, now they can find other ways to make it, but that involves more time and effort, same exact analogy. Trump did what he could given the circumstances.

You are comparing the Oval Office with the demands of your kids. You are the one posting Trump wasn't capable of multitasking.

Following his election, he failed to address the concerns of coal miners.

Given what the Dems did, I understand and let's not forget, or should I say, the coal miners will never forget what Biden did, keep that in mind, they sure will this November.

There are less than 40,000 coal miners left working. Will not affect the elections. Biden is no longer standing for election.

MAGA- Trump 2024!

You cannot steal Trump's policies because he simply does not have any.

Trump is lazy. He spent January 6 watching TV while the capitol was under siege.

Yeah, the lazy diatribe is as effective as saying Hillary is a Republican. Lol!

That's the only comeback the left has? A bit old and worn out like everything else they keep throwing at the guy. Time for a new attack line, keep us posted.

You are comparing the Oval Office with the demands of your kids.

Breaking down the analogy, yes.

You are the one posting Trump wasn't capable of multitasking.

No, I said, the opposite.

There are less than 40,000 coal miners left working.

So screw them right? That comes out to 40,000 votes against Biden.

Will not affect the elections.

Then you don't know what you are talking about, even if it's 1/3 of that number, it could have devasting consequences for Harris in a general

Biden is no longer standing for election.

Harris is, she is still aligned and attached to this admin. and he is still the current President, so it does play in.

bass4funk

You are comparing the Oval Office with the demands of your kids.

Breaking down the analogy, yes.

You are the one posting Trump wasn't capable of multitasking.

No, I said, the opposite.

You didn't

"Yes, because he was bogged down by a hostile House that thwarted his agenda and the man was under a two-year investigation about a phony Russian collusion delusion hoax, how could we forget?"

There are less than 40,000 coal miners left working.

So screw them right? That comes out to 40,000 votes against Biden.

Did you get the memo Biden is not running?

Will not affect the elections.

Then you don't know what you are talking about, even if it's 1/3 of that number, it could have devasting consequences for Harris in a general

I doubt 40,000 votes will decide the outcome of the election.

Biden is no longer standing for election.

Harris is, she is still aligned and attached to this admin. and he is still the current President, so it does play in.

You cannot steal Trump's policies because he simply does not have any.

As usual, you don't know, not surprised.

Tax Reform: Implemented the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017, which lowered corporate tax rates and provided tax cuts for individuals.

Deregulation: Focused on reducing federal regulations across various sectors, including environmental protections and financial regulations.

-Immigration:

Border Wall: Advocated for and began construction of a border wall between the U.S. and Mexico.

Travel Ban: Implemented travel restrictions on several predominantly Muslim countries.

Zero Tolerance Policy: Enforced strict measures on illegal immigration, including family separations.

-Trade Policy:

Tariffs: Imposed tariffs on various imports, particularly from China, as part of a broader trade war.

-USMCA: Renegotiated the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), resulting in the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement (USMCA).

-Foreign Policy:

"America First": Emphasized prioritizing American interests in foreign policy decisions.

-Withdrawal from Paris Agreement: Announced the U.S. would exit the international climate agreement.

-Healthcare:

Repeal and Replace: Sought to repeal the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) and replace it with an alternative, though full repeal was not achieved.

-Judicial Appointments:

Appointed three Supreme Court Justices: Neil Gorsuch, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett.

-Criminal Justice Reform:

Signed the First Step Act, aimed at reforming the federal prison system and reducing recidivism.

-Military and Defense:

Increased defense spending and focused on modernizing the military.

-Economic Policies:

Promoted energy independence through deregulation of the oil and gas industry.

Emphasized job creation and economic growth through various policy initiatives.

A lot more, this ruse that the guy doesn't have any policies is just laughable they are all there, more to be added, and the guy talks and talks about them all the time. Now let's see if Kamala will do a 2 hour interview with Musk about policy

You didn't

I did

Did you get the memo Biden is not running?

Harris is, Biden is still President, same ticket, same policies.

Will not affect the elections.

They absolutely will

I doubt 40,000 votes will decide the outcome of the election.

1/3 can definitely have an impact and a large majority of these people will remember.

Biden is no longer standing for election.

But Harris is

Repeal and Replace: Sought to repeal the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) and replace it with an alternative, though full repeal was not achieved.

So his list of 'achievements' includes things that he didn't achieve? How very MAGA.

So his list of 'achievements' includes things that he didn't achieve? How very MAGA.

Yes, he got rid of that dreaded mandate, that was huge, thank you Mr. President.

Yes, he got rid of that dreaded mandate, that was huge, thank you Mr. President.

Apparently not. Did you read what you posted?

"though full repeal was not achieved."

Try again, but do it better.

Apparently not. Did you read what you posted? 

"though full repeal was not achieved."

Yup! Sure did11

Try again, but do it better.

Always

https://www.brookings.edu/articles/six-ways-trump-has-sabotaged-the-affordable-care-act/

*Cut ACA subsidies to insurance companies offering coverage on the exchanges.** ACA proponents saw insurance company participation on the exchanges as central to fostering enrollee choice and to fueling competition that would lower premiums. The law therefore provided various subsidies to insurance companies to reduce their risks of losing money if they participated in the exchanges. The Trump administration joined congressional Republicans in reneging on these financial commitments.*

Thank God for that and that was without doubt the biggest problem. Why I need to pay for someone else's healthcare program.

This was a peak “Trump-stupid” thing to say to union workers.

Thanks for enough ad material for the rest of the campaign, “Sylvester”!

Why I need to pay for someone else's healthcare program.

Because you live in Japan, therefore you have to.

Nice article though. As per usual, it disproves the thing that you were attempting to prove, because you didn't actually read it.

On balance, however, the ACA proved resilient. Roughly 20 million individuals remain enrolled in the exchanges and via the Medicaid expansion. The number of states opting to expand Medicaid during Trump’s first term grew from 31 to 38 (plus the District of Columbia). People with preexisting conditions continue to benefit from the ACA’s quality regulations.

Trump failed to kill Obamacare because it was popular with the majority of states, as was Trump's firing in 2020.

Try again, but do it better.

bass4funk

I doubt 40,000 votes will decide the outcome of the election.

1/3 can definitely have an impact and a large majority of these people will remember.

In 2020, Trump lost by 7 million votes in that historical Biden win.

ROFL

BINGO

Because you live in Japan, therefore you have to. 

Huh? How did Japan get into the conversation? You ok???

Nice article though. As per usual, it disproves the thing that you were attempting to prove, because you didn't actually read it. 

I did.

On balance, however, the ACA proved resilient. Roughly 20 million individuals remain enrolled in the exchanges and via the Medicaid expansion. The number of states opting to expand Medicaid during Trump’s first term grew from 31 to 38 (plus the District of Columbia). People with preexisting conditions continue to benefit from the ACA’s quality regulations.

Trump failed to kill Obamacare because it was popular with the majority of states, as was Trump's firing in 2020. 

Try again, but do it better.

But he got rid of the subsidies mandate, don't need to try, the man did a service to the nation for that. Kudos.

I doubt 40,000 votes will decide the outcome of the election.

1/3 can definitely have an impact and a large majority of these people will remember.

In 2020, Trump lost by 7 million votes in that historical Biden win.

ROFL

ROFL, funny!!!