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British Prime Minister Boris Johnson moved to intensive care

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I can't believe that there are some persons who put minus button on the comments hoping his recovery.

They have cold hearts.

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Hello Kitty

@ zichi

The UK does not have polaris missiles, it has trident (they stopped using polaris in 1998). And the British Prime Minister can only use them if the USA agrees, it is not an independent deterrent.

Yes you are correct Trident missiles. Each of the four boats are armed with up to 16 Trident II D5 SLBMs, carrying up to 8 warheads each.

One of the most common myths around the system is that the United States has control over the UK’s Trident missile system, that is not the case.

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/controls-trident-brief-look-operation-britains-nuclear-weapons/

"Only the prime minister or a designated survivor can authorise the missiles to be fired. These orders would likely be issued from the Pindar command bunker under Whitehallin central London. From there, the order would be relayed to the Commander, Task Force 345 (CTF 345) operations room at the Northwood Headquarters facility in Hertfordshire, the only facility allowed to communicate with the Vanguard commander on patrol. Two personnel are required to authenticate each stage of the process before launching, with the submarine commander only able to activate the firing trigger after two safes have been opened with keys held by the ship's executive and weapon engineer officers."

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itsonlyrocknroll

However, a proportion have been replaced with UK students who have in fact risen to the occasion, the work is tough and conditions are harsh.

I know all about that. My child family home was located near to the farming countryside. Weekends, schools holidays we would go picking potatoes, peas, beans, onions, cabbage, strawberries, apples and more.

I also did the French grape picking several times. That is the best way to appreciate wine. In Italy worked on a farm making pasta, tomato sauce, olives.

The UK financial support for business and individuals still hasn't taken off like the government stated. Most of my family are self employed and lost all their work.

Even my brother in Roma was in dire need of financial support which the family were able to do and take care of him for at least the next six months.

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@ zichi

The UK does not have polaris missiles, it has trident (they stopped using polaris in 1998). And the British Prime Minister can only use them if the USA agrees, it is not an independent deterrent.

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starpunk - There's no justifying or excusing Far East Asian looking people then, if or now or ever. Just because it developed in China is no excuse.

The coronavirus is everybody's problem.

It certainly is now.

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Indeed zichi, the lockdown has presented my UK families farming and land holding with an ironic dilemma.

Eastern Europeans have been a staple source of semi-skilled pickers from Romania and Bulgaria. However, a proportion have been replaced with UK students who have in fact risen to the occasion, the work is tough and conditions are harsh. Even so transportation has become an issue as truckers quite rightly, who display any sign of infection are placed into self-isolation.

Costs have risen exponentially as demand has shrunk for fresh produce. Frozen is now king. They are just about keeping their heads above water. But time is running out, I have financed a loan guarantee arrangement, and a credit risk facility. However, in reality the business is 8/10 weeks away from becoming untenable.

Without a clear chain of command within Government, and a transparent economic policy agenda, the prospects  for the UK economy appear bleak.

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Some interesting figures for “serious cases” in the UK...

Median age. 60 yrs

73% male

72% either overweight or obese

It would seem that if you are male and lead a sedentary lifestyle with a poor diet, there are consequences. I hope this will be a wake up call.

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Prime Minister Johnson's senior adviser Dominic Cummings advised the PM to allow herd immunity since he thought the majority of the virus victims were old and it wasn't important if they died from it.

The virus figures today are 51,608 cases and 5,373 deaths. Only 135 have recovered. Grim figures.

Boris Johnson was in charge at 5pm... and in intensive care by 7: How PM's breathing deteriorated in just hours – a day after being admitted to hospital following video call that left his Cabinet members shocked at his ailing appearance

The British lockdown is really hurting many people who are struggling to cope, will continue until the virus peaks, England's chief medical officer Professor Chris Whitty stated.

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I agree, which is why it is important for Western governments to defuse vigilantism by taking a tough line with the CCP

What? How does that work?

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I am wondering why his doctors did not administer to him right away when diagnosed Avigan??? Could he make a call to Abe-san and ask to send some? Avigan, if used in early stages will stop the spread of Coronavirus. China used Avigan and took on average 4 (four) days to get rid of the virus. Other drugs require 11 (eleven) days. Why Boris was not informed about Avigan?... Very wierd...

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Its worth recalling that his girlfriend is pregnant and he is about to become a father. This could be really tragic and I really do hope that he recovers.

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One of the most critical responsibilities of a British prime minister, like the American president, is controlling the nuke button and more importantly the right to fire our nuclear missiles should that ever happen. Britain has about 150 multi head nuclear missiles.

There are four nuclear subs each armed with sixteen Polaris A-3 submarine-launched ballistic missiles.

If Russia fired a nuclear strike then the country only has minutes to launch a response. There is no time for discussion.

With the prime minister in hospital then the Foreign Secretary Raab is in the driving seat and his finger is on the nuke button.

The country is in a moment of great weakness with all the resources and attention directed with dealing with the virus pandemic.

The country must remain on full alert to any possible attacks including terrorism.

These matters don't stop just because the prime minister is in hospital or the country is fighting a pandemic.

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There's no justifying or excusing Far East Asian looking people then, if or now or ever. Just because it developed in China is no excuse.

The coronavirus is everybody's problem.

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Luddite

@zichi. Johnson is being cared for by the NHS.

How do you know that? There is a private wing too and the media also stated that his private doctor is present.

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Get well Boris, you still have a long life ahead of you.

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As Johnson himself once said on 'This Morning' on 5 March 'perhaps you could take it on the chin, take it all in one go and allow the disease, as it were, to move through the population, without taking as many draconian measures. I think we need to strike a balance.' I bet he never thought he would be on the receiving end when he said that.

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JimizoToday 10:53 am JST

This is a time when society needs to work together to make sure as few as possible end up in Johnson’s situation.

I'm sure this is a sentiment everyone can agree on.

However, how does society work together when the British Prime Minister's senior adviser (Dominic Cummings) is a self-confessed eugenicist who reportedly made remarks at a private event characterized as “herd immunity, protect the economy and if that means some pensioners die, too bad,” by a senior Tory who reported them to the Sunday Times?

Cummings kept his job, unlike a recently-hired junior adviser of similar hue:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/breaking-number-10-aide-andrew-21517109

Can you imagine the furore if the likes of Aso or whoever is advising Trump this week had made such comments? Yet somehow Cummings got away with it....

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Regardless... He is part of the establishment.... he is playing a role to excite people to conform to whatever that can control actions of people... He will be fine and without any actual illness... probably within a month or even less...

Just a gut feeling about all this hype when there are NO real and substantiated data or even a way to test and say it was the flu or the COCID-19 with the same or similar standard...specifically for that virus...

And how come the tests were created so suddenly in so many countries... when the US took weeks and then some..? Japan could only treat people based upon their symptoms, till tests were made available weeks later.. They did not even klnow that it was corona till gthey got information from China and the US.

To top it all.. all we get are government figures... who in the government are actually reporting them..?. where is the data coming from...? (I know that in Japan, the figures have been very accurate. It is just the way the health system so systematized and organized.)

The figures and charts are too idealistic when the virus is supposedly totally different from other corona related viruses... and they use supposedly accurate data from countries with totally different social cultural habits...

Not to say it is or can be dangerous... then why only the elderly and ill..? other corona virus pandemics did not have such specificity....

Just cannot understand all the hype... that is all...

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Ironically, Johnson will get the best medical care from the NHS doctors and nurses who for years have been on the receiving end of the Tories' loathsome austerity cuts. Lacking information on the state of his health there is no point speculating about his recovery. Nobody is wishing him ill, but if he cannot perform his duties as PM, it will make no difference to the outcome of the UK's pandemic crisis: like in the USA, nobody is in charge of this one.

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@Rizdown

Is your description of the former Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn as “that idiot Red Corbo” different to “unfunny petty little remarks like using the term ‘PM Bozo”?

I’m just interested in how we can raise the conversation from the petty.

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@zichi. Johnson is being cared for by the NHS.

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I wish him, and everyone suffering during this, a speedy recovery. And this is inadvertently his strongest message yet -- don't mess around; this is serious.

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I suppose that their unfunny petty little remarks like using the term 'PM Bozo' are more important for them.

Spare us the sanctimony. It’s not just the ‘left-wingers’. There is lots of name-calling from both sides. It comes with the territory in politics. Probably the best example of it in my lifetime came from the Tory leader Cameron - a man who admitted he needed to tone it down. He looked more like a public school bully in the commons than a leader.

Anyway, while I despise the Tory party and what it stands for, I have posted before that I hope Johnson recovers. I wouldn’t wish this on him.

This is a time when we need to wipe our backsides with the disgusting Thatcher idea that there is no such thing as society ( wash your hands carefully after doing it ). This is a time when society needs to work together to make sure as few as possible end up in Johnson’s situation.

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theResident, clearly Boris Johnson provokes power emotional hostility, some of which is dark political anomosity.

If contributor has taken the time to log in, read, and mark either nay or say, in my humble opinion, thats a positive.

I have to admint that some of my opinions have caused irritation within my own family. Although I have mellowed and try to tone it down with varying degrees of success.

Keep well everybody

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Some of the left-wingers on here make me laugh.

They don't even have the grace to put politics aside for a minute and offer a fellow human good wishes for a speedy recovery when he/she is down.

Of course they always like to make a big show of their 'tolerance', 'humanity' etc.

I suppose that their unfunny petty little remarks like using the term 'PM Bozo' are more important for them.

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@itsonly rocknroll: So well said. Thank you for bringing this thread down to earth. Those who have thumbed you down should be ashamed of themselves.

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Setting the continuing NHS funding debate aside. The fact remains There is no specific treatment for disease caused by a novel coronavirus that represents a cure., Only a course of action is dependent on the patients condition. Irrespective whether the patients happens to be the PM Boris Johnson, or Boris the Spider.

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It is worth understand how the PHI model fits into NHS funding.

In all honesty how this is relevant in connection to Boris Johnson survival or in fact the outcome of the many thousands in the same predicament is another matter altogether.

How health care is funded...

https://www.kingsfund.org.uk/publications/how-health-care-is-funded

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BJ is in St Thomas' Hospital, one of Londons largest NHS hospitals.

Like most NHS hospitals there are also private wings.

https://www.guysandstthomas.nhs.uk/our-services/private-patients/private-patients.aspx

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Wishing Boris and everyone else wth this virus a speedy recovery.

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Symptoms, not systems, heck I have systems on the brain at the moment.

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Boris Johnson first and formally is an expectant Father.

Carrie Symonds, the soon to be Mother of Boris Johnson unborn child is in recovery from systems related to coronavirus, Ms Symonds must be in a heightened state of anxiety and stress .

If Boris Johnson was to succumb to this pandemic, the child will never experience the joys that a devoted Father brings to the happiness of family life. I adore my Father, even the embarrassing way he sometimes dresses, 1970 it ain't .

Suffice to say, Boris Johnson could well be struggling for his life. I sincerely hope he survives this ordeal.

Politics aside, a genuine heartfelt wish, from one human bring to another.

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We all like to slag off politicians we don't like - I do it too, including with Boris, but this is a reminder that there's a human being behind all the other stuff. Can we just drop the political slagging-off and genuinely wish a fellow human in trouble all the best and a speedy recovery, without any accompanying little digs about his politics attached?

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I wish him and others the best of luck, but I have a bad feeling about this one.

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I am not a fan of Boris the PM yet he is a husband and father to his children. Can we find it in our hearts to wish well upon those we disagree?

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It sounds like Boris is in a rather serious condition.

Hope he pulls through.

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I hope everyone who is infected recovers.

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Poor man. I wouldn't wish this one on anyone.

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theResident, who says I hate Boris? Yet a country can not be led from a person on a ventilator. Tough decisions need to be made now and not when Boris is well and fit. I pray he recovers and resumes his role as PM.

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Incorrect Robert - BJ is in St Thomas' Hospital, one of Londons largest NHS hospitals. Yes, of course he will be denied visitors, standard practice with Covid 19.

Again, Get Well Soon.

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I hope and pray for a speedy recovery. So sad, once again I hope the world sees how serious, fast and devastating this virus is. Japan should seriously take the severity of this as a warning.

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Get well soon, PM Johnson. This is a truly awful disease, the more agonizing reports I read of people who have recovered , the more scared I get. And we barely know anything about Covid-19 yet.

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The NHS was never important for the Tory party. Too many hospitals closed over the last 10 years. PM Johnson promised 23 new hospitals during his election campaign.

PM Johnson will be in private care with his personal doctor present.

Like all the virus victims the families are banned from visiting. Even at the moment of death they are alone n their final moments. A cruel disease.

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Get well Boris..

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ICU after a day means he's not breathing on his own.

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If there's any silver lining to all this it's hopefully that people in the UK and particularly the conservatives have a new found appreciation of just how important the NHS is. Britain's most important post-war institution.

Yes. Particularly with the Tory party in power post-Brexit I became worried about the future of the NHS.

This is a powerful reminder of how important it is.

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Get well soon, Boris! Ignore all the lefties sagging you off online and wishing you harm. You are doing a great job.

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Not a fan of Boris and his politics but I hope he recovers safely.

If there's any silver lining to all this it's hopefully that people in the UK and particularly the conservatives have a new found appreciation of just how important the NHS is. Britain's most important post-war institution.

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Oh! Such a brave, sensible statement Robert.

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So who's finger is now on the nuke button? Foreign Secretary Raab.

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Best wishes for a speedy recovery so we can see that beautiful hair flapping the breezing again soon.

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*properly Yuri! Properly.

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@YuriOtani - Way don't you read or listen to the News probably. It's been known for some days that should BJ become incapacitated then Dominic Raab would assume his responsibilities.

Hope all the haters from yesterday are feeling good now.

Let's hope he's back in No.10 shortly . No country should be without their leader at this point.

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For the sake of the UK, a temporary replacement needs to be named.

Dominic Raab (Foreign Secretary) is already deputising.

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Get well soon Boris!

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Best wish for his speedy recovery.

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For the sake of the UK, a temporary replacement needs to be named.

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I hope he gets better asap...

I also hope the government can actually deal with what's going on. Obviously they weren't adequately prepared

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Best wishes for his recovery, when it gets to ICU it's a very serious matter.

That said, it is more than fair to point out that his initial response to the coronavirus pandemic was less than ideal. He basically ignored the warning signs and made light of precautionary measures, and even bragged about shaking hands everywhere. Only after he got sick did he start to take it seriously.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/opinion/boris-johnson-coronavirus.html

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Politics aside, and his mistakes aside, he's a human being after all. May he recover, along with the thousands upon thousands affected by the virus in the United Kingdom and the world.

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