Starmer vows speedy punishment to quell violent disorder in UK

Ah, no news about the Muslim attacks on white people in various cities the last few days. Yesterday Sky News was reporting while Muslim men walked past with machetes. Later they were intimidated by others and a man tried to slash their van tyres while they were leaving. Will these men be called right wing extremists by Starmer and the media? In fact they are because their religion is far more intolerant than any U.K. group.

Thw country has been divided for ages, this has to happen. Let’s not forget the recent Muslim riots in Leeds and other cities which were not condemned at all.

All illegal thuggery should be condemned and work much be done to stop the divisions immediately.

Ah, no news about the Muslim attacks on white people in various cities the last few days

Any links to any non far-right extremist media organizations that are claiming this happened?

Or did the right wing media just make it up?

Areas of Birmingham have marauding hordes of Muslims walking around armed and there is visibly no police presence. White peoples in cars are being stopped and attacked and many premises smashed. Zero police confrontation.

Areas of Birmingham have marauding hordes of Muslims walking around armed and there is visibly no police presence

Any links to any non far-right extremist media organizations that are claiming this happened?

Strangerland

Yes, here’s one it’s from a site called BBC News, I’m not aware of them being far right extremist media.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cly883p5yj8o

Organised sexual predation and forced drug addiction of young English girls, two-tier policing and the unwarranted arrest of elderly people,stabbings and burning cities-Starmer’s definition of England is……?

The army needs to be put on the streets with loaded weapons…

Did they report the same claim as you made? I’m skeptical.

As usual I just get down votes, abuse and accusations of lying when I present factual information. This blinkered way of thinking is why we are all so divided.

The rioters will face harsh justice from the courts/law.

To form an clear picture, it is important to realise, to have an insight to what motivates, Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, known by the pseudonym Tommy Robinson, in his own words.

Tommy Robinson | Full Address | Oxford Union (9 years old)......... This is how hate manifests/infests into the very core of ones soul.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YQ94jFg_4A&t=106s

To the present day (3 week old)

Why the Establishment Hates This Man | Tommy Robinson | EP 462

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnhwBoFxaDI&t=448s

All can make there own minds up, form an opinion.

Unless Parliament find a single unified voice, open an independent inquiry into the inequalities, poverty, within communities/society then such an inflammatory statement "civil war is inevitable." could become prophetic.

The UK is finally waking up.

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Wake up, Europe!

Far-right thugs have attacked Muslims. Some are fighting back. Their Mosques have been attacked.

Far-right thugs started the riots, arson, and looting.

They smashed the windows of the working people, looted their stores, and destroyed their amenities.

The first ones have appeared in the courts. Stamer asked for quick action to name the offenders.

@FFSteve: Why do you try to deny the facts that are out there for all to see?

'Facts' Most reasonable people do not trust 'alternative facts'. Some extremist social media parrots have repeatedly pushed mis- and disinformation for them to be believed. Putin's thug Prizoghin and his Internet Research Agency employees set the stage. Perhaps some of those employees are still working for one of Putin's other thugs maybe the Kremlin's Africa Corps.

kurisupisu

The army needs to be put on the streets with loaded weapons…

That is the last action the country needs and would inflame the situation.

Stranger

The Muslim attacks are facts, dunno what’s wrong with you

Wallace

I hope you condone these Muslim attacks as strongly you did the others. They also smashed windows of cars, shops, attacked people walking down the street and walked around the streets brandishing machetes, knives, pieces of wood etc. They disrupted and took over a part of the city and the police took zero action.

So do you think this violence is OK because it was started by others?

Ptownsend

I posted a link from BBC News. If any of you bothered to look at it you’d see for yourself rather than attacking me all the time.

Areas of Birmingham have marauding hordes of Muslims walking around armed and there is visibly no police presence. White peoples in cars are being stopped and attacked and many premises smashed. Zero police confrontation.

Yeah I read the link you posted. It doesn’t paint the picture you’re trying to show.

Read it yourself

So which part of the article supposedly supported this claim?

Areas of Birmingham have marauding hordes of Muslims walking around armed and there is visibly no police presence

More than 370 people have been arrested after the past week of violent disorder in the UK, the National Police Chiefs' Council says

Live Reporting

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cw5yyynpwnzt

Haaa

There are many news links if you search, I just posted up BBC so people can’t accuse me of using a site that could be considered right wing.

Stranger

How about Sky News

https://news.sky.com/video/birmingham-protesters-surround-sky-correspondent-and-slash-tyre-amid-unrest-13191564

Stranger

How about Sky News

Which part of that link are you thinking supports your claim?

Wallace

Do you condemn or condone tonight’s violence against the public, journalists and property? Also about the police not making any presence felt though this lasted for hours?

Do you condemn or condone tonight’s violence against the public, journalists and property?

The media is reporting these as far right rioters.

UK riots: Why are far-right groups attacking immigrants and Muslims?

Police arrest hundreds as chaos fuelled by hate and misinformation grips the United Kingdom in the aftermath of a tragic stabbing attack.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/8/5/uk-riots-why-are-far-right-groups-attacking-immigrants-and-muslims

Tommy Robinson spread fake info online that the Southport killer was a Muslim migrant who arrived in the country last year. Meanwhile, he is sunning himself in Cyrus.

"Tommy Robinson has been accused of whipping up far-right riots from a five-star hotel in Cyprus. The right-wing agitator was accused of stoking tensions from afar after he promoted a “pro-UK” rally and appeared to defend the unrest on social media while on holiday abroad."

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/tommy-robinson-far-right-riots-cyprus-hotel-b1174710.html#:~:text=Tommy%20Robinson%20has%20been%20accused,media%20while%20on%20holiday%20abroad.

Someone is spreading word (false maybe) that the far right are planning to march and these guys show up to counter. I think someone is doing this deliberately.

Starmer have to go.now.

completely unfit for his job.

UK as society is in ruins.

The most worrying concerns, falseflagsteve is the country is close to boiling point.

Three in four say Britain is divided, but public say problems are less serious than in the US

https://www.ipsos.com/en-uk/three-four-say-britain-divided-public-say-problems-are-less-serious-than-us

76% of Britons believe that Britain is divided these days – down from 85% in 2018 (-9)

Half (52%) say that the most tension exists between immigrants and people born in Britain (up from 42% in 2019)

Generally, Britons are less concerned than Americans about political violence in their country

Keir Starmer government cannot bring about change without Parliament/commons unifying an agenda that brings communities together.

The glaring racial/religious fractures within communities are close to a point that civil violent conflict will explode into full blown sectarian hostility.

Starmer have to go.now.

completely unfit for his job.

UK as society is in ruins.

Any links to any non-Kremlin news organizations that are stating the same position?

Stranger

Well, that’s right, you don’t get more far right in U.K. than Muslims.

Haaa

They may have shown up to counter, might be fake news, however they went on the rampage.

Total carnage will now ensue nationwide.

Wallace

So the men last night many carrying Palestinian flags were what? I don’t hate Muslims or anyone, just state facts about them. The most far right community in the country.

The UK needs to come down like a tonne of bricks on the violent scum as pictured above. Many years locked away for those ~400 thugs arrested.

Taking away these criminals' welfare and welfare housing would also be a good measure.

What evidence is there that these rioters are "far right". Well, whatever they are, they are very angry. (Sorry to state the obvious).

What evidence is there that these rioters are "far right".

It's what the media is reporting. You'll have to ask them.

Strangerland

I condemn all violence and also the violence last night by the Muslims in Birmingham.

Two tier policing is a large part of the problem. Then there is the larger issue of uncontrolled mass-migration and unsecure borders.

Two tier policing is a large part of the problem.

Any links to any non-Kremlin news organizations claiming two-tier policing is a large part of the problem?

If immigrants don't integrate and adopt the norms and culture of their new home it becomes a replacement.

And the locals know it.

This will only get worse as time goes on.

One rule for them, another for the native English.

This won't end well for the UK and two-tier Kier.

You muslim defence league apologists are astounding, delusional and traitorous. A man was sitting at the pub and got set upon, and also an elderly man was walking down the street and got suddenly knocked out for no reason. The videos can be found on X.

Let the courts deal with the rioters, the hooliganism.

The vital necessity here/now is for politician/parliament the seat of Great Britain's democracy is to halt religious racial divisions, to roll back from a 2 tier policing policy.

To bring together communities to take part in open public forums to instigate change. Real change.

No other way.

It's just a re-run of the National Front aggro that peppered the 1970s or that of Mosley's ‎British Union of Fascists in the 1930s. Albeit this time the victims are more organised, more numerous, have more widespread support and are prepared to fight back. It will wind down, but not as soon as it would have if the Tories hadn't cut police numbers and prison capacity. Right-wing neo-/Nazi thugs crawl out from under their rocks every few decades when inspired by populist politicians and the media. As for social media - it will never match the British tabloid press for misinformation. They were experts at it decades before the net was invented.

British cities were always grim and dangerous. They were revamped and became a little more pleasant in the 80s and 90s, but post-Brexit the money has gone, unis are declining, public services are going and they will rapidly decline again. Not tourist territory and not particularly pleasant places to live.

Starmer won a landslide victory. The thugs causing this have taken it badly. They are a (very) small minority and widely reviled. The police will nick them, the courts will bang them up. Life will go on.

My local town centre was no different to normal today, but the usual mix of kids (on holiday), mums with small kids and older folk did have one persistent gripe: the inconvenience of bus stops being moved due to building work to create cycle lanes that few will ever use.

No sign of anything approaching 'civil war'.

Two-tier policing is a large part of the problem.

Nigel Farage's claim.

Sir Keir Starmer has rejected claims of “two-tier policing” in Britain after Nigel Farage suggested riots over the last week have been dealt with more harshly than other recent unrest and protests.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/nigel-farage-mark-rowley-prime-minister-priti-patel-parliament-b2591397.html

If immigrants don't integrate and adopt the norms and culture of their new home it becomes a replacement.

Is this your theory on why far-right extremists are rioting?

One rule for them, another for the native English.

Any links to non-far right extremist media organizations claiming that there are one rules for "them" and one rule for the "native English"?

Wallace

Maybe they believe that, but they went on a rampage attacked the public, journalists and destroyed property. Not the police I may add, they were a no show for some reason.

Everything I have stated is factual and can be seen on videos online and through news outlets.

Extreme Right wing means intolerance, bigotry, hating homosexuals and making women second class citizens.

JJE

The main problem including the grooming gangs and heavily populated Muslim areas being no go areas are being ignored and swept under the carpet.

Muslims comprise 4% of the U.K. population and make up 16% of the prison population. Things need to be sorted to make the streets safe for all.

That includes thugs and troublemakers of all religions and ethnic background.

TheLizard

They close their eyes to things that go against their preconceived ideas.

Let’s all see how many times we can say the word ‘far right’ and disinformation shall we?

Whatever makes you sleep better at night. Zero intention of understanding nor even comprehending the root of the problem, as usual, zero clue on how to calm the waters and not make things worse.

Go world!

Only a minority support the violence but a majority of native British agree that mass immigration is a problem.

They are not racists but ordinary working people who see the added burden on housing, the health service, schools and government expenditure.

Only a minority support the violence but a majority of native British agree that mass immigration is a problem.

Any links to any non-far right extremist media organizations showing the numbers of native British that agree mass immigration is the problem, and that it's a majority?

Strangerland an opinion piece.......

Not the answer to your question perhaps, but worth a thought

Racism in Britain is not a black and white issue. It’s far more complicated

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/apr/15/racism-in-britain-is-not-a-black-and-white-issue-it-is-far-more-complicated

Wallace

You have a right to self defence in the U.K. but not turn that into attacking innocents and destruction of property. Tensions are running high and the government need to step in and say they will listen to people’s concerns and make an appeal for calm.

Starmer is stoking the flames, he needs better advisors.

Starmer is stoking the flames, he needs better advisors.

Do you have any links to any non-far right extremist media organizations that agree, or is this just your own special thought?

You have a right to self defence in the U.K. but not turn that into attacking innocents and destruction of property.

And yet you refuse to condemn the far-right extremists doing this.

we have one guys from Albion here.

wallace tell us honestly what do you think about all of this?

just your own personal view.

it may be interesting to know since you are from there and your view may be different from one served by media here?

thank you for your time mate.

dear admin is there any issue why cant you silence/or say give a break/to nick Strangerland as his/her insults to anyone here is a little bit over red line?its called a internet trolling and I personally believe this should be not tolerated here.

thank you for your consideration.

Why all the hullabaloo? The west was certainly watching with glee when similar violence occurred in Hong Kong in 2019.

Yes, and we all know who was behind that, just as we know that the anti-Muslim hate and anti-immigrant racism in the UK is being funded by foreign Zionists.

Yes, here’s one it’s from a site called BBC News, I’m not aware of them being far right extremist media.

A BBC reporter referred to the racist thuggery as a "pro-British march". That's the BBC now...

https://x.com/AlanRMacLeod/status/1820260928082108769

This is what happens when you have

mass immigration and no assimilation,

If I remember correctly last year, it was France rioting.

With all respect to different opinions, but there's still a significant difference between reactions like spreading misinformation or showing unrest and that murdering of three dancing girls which caused the reactions.

Tommy Robinson, the man that loves the UK and its rule of law so much, he flees the country on the eve of a court case…..Top Bloke you see.

If they did this in a minority area in America,half of them would not have the privilege of going home that night

@ FFS: Areas of Birmingham have marauding hordes of Muslims

Are these the same areas some of Murdoch's millionaire entertainers falsely claimed police will not go into? If so, then once again Murdoch's outlets have got social media posters to push their disinformation. Murdoch is one of the parrot trainers, he has a number of social media posters willing to parrot his falsehoods, some of his falsehoods which he's admitted to have published. Unfortunately they were believed by many in his intended audience, and sometimes violence resulted.

You have a right to self defence in the U.K. but not turn that into attacking innocents and destruction of property. Tensions are running high and the government need to step in and say they will listen to people’s concerns and make an appeal for calm.

Amazing! You seemed to be far more concerned with a handful of Muslims creating disturbances in a suburb of Birmingham than you are about actual riots, looting, burning and destruction in Rotherham, Southport, London or Sunderland. This is far more than you’ve ever said about those riots.

Let be absolutely clear, the links, I posted must not be construed to be supportive or condemning Tommy Robinson.

To do so would misunderstand completely, especially the logic reasoning.

Clarity, inference into how Robinson experiences, morphed into extreme prejudices, to a dark world of what the main stream establishment defines as "white racial supremacist" activism..

A young man born in Cardiff to Rwandan parents who were given asylum more than 17 years ago. Moved to Bank near Southport and committed a horrendous crime stabbing to death three young girls enjoying a school holiday event. The motives for the killing are not known to the public.

Southport is close to my heart and a childhood place near my family home.

The likes of Tommy Robinson jumped on his racial hate bandwagon and messages on the social network that the killer was a Muslim and arrived in the UK on a boat last year.

Tommy Robinson is in Cyprus and wanted for a court appearance.

Robinson urged his followers to protest. They descended on Southport with brutal force and caused destruction and mayhem.

The riots and mayhem spread to other cities. It sucked in other people who have grievances about the current immigration situation.

Attacks also started against the Muslim communities.

Hatred must never win the day and the true grievances must be addressed by the one-month-old government that inherited the problem after 14 years of failure by the likes of Sunak and his party.

Police have blamed online disinformation, amplified by high-profile figures for driving the violence.

The so called "freedom of speech" that Elon wants is the illegal one that only means to cause chaos and divide people. Making false statement to people that are delusional enough to believe it should be a crime if it already isn't