UK urges public to wash clothes after nerve agent attack

I wish they would close all relations with Russia sooner...

This isn't the least bit different from terrorism, and it is state-sponsored terrorism at that, using a weapon of mass destruction.

It is an Act of War committed against our country's strongest ally, and fellow member of NATO. It cries out for a discussion of the Collective Defense provision of the NATO treaty.

The people in that city are now living in terror--they have no idea if they will be victims. And such attacks can happen anywhere.

But Trump can't even figure out what to do about ongoing interference in our elections, so what are the odds he'd even mention this despicable act?

I wish they would close all relations with Russia sooner...

There is need to keep the MI6 shop open, trading of spy's is a valuable commodity

This was state sponsored and not only is the Russian regime responsible but its allies in the White House, as well.

They are culpable and must be brought to justice.

@kniknaknokkaer The UK has already cut off it's nose to spite it's face over Brexit, at least by telling Russia to piss off we would be doing it for noble reasons.

Reading between the lines here, which is all we can do since the authorities will not tell us what it was, this stuff must have been mixed in some type of gel form to prolong its life and make it easier to use. If that got splashed around, then I could understand the authorities' concern and their care in how they have phrased it. It also tells us that this nerve agent is one of the types that can penetrate the skin, as opposed to the types that have to be breathed in. In some ways similar to the North Korean attack on Kim's older brother in Malaysia recently.

Although the sophistication points to a state laboratory behind this, experts are still saying that is only a likelihood and there is no definitive proof yet. Poor old Russia's track record means though that she will catch the blame for this, even without the mounting circumstantial evidence that is pointing her way already.

Nothing as yet proven. And the Brits have a long history of state-sponsored false flags and attacks on their own citizens.

If it was the Russians, and it looks like it was, who carried out this assassination using a chemical weapon in a public place, it just goes to show how callous and arrogant they are. The same holds true for the N. Koreans who carried out a similar kind of assassination last year inside of a busy int'l airport.

The Russians and the N. Koreans really don't care if you can figure out it was them or not.

It could be from Russia, or it could be from someone else who wants to make it look like from Russia

Right now, the investigation is trying to determine which

But Russia isn't helping its own cause due to its past assassination history in Britain

But Britain hasn't really responded against Russia's past actions, so Russia can consider Britain a low risk against actions

Russia has shown by their state-sponsored doping of their olympic team, and the messing with American elections, that they don't care whatsoever about playing by the rules. They are the nation-equivalent of a troll. This execution, if it does turn out to be Russia (and I'd be surprised if it didn't), just shows we need to isolate Russia from the rest of us. They are not playing the same game as us, and therefore we shouldn't let them play in our game.

But Britain hasn't really responded against Russia's past actions, so Russia can consider Britain a low risk against actions

Staying friendly with the Russians is very important to the British govt. All boils down to money.

The message needs to be a strong one from Whitehall and the White House - acts of terrorism and meddling will not be tolerated.

Just want to Putin my two cents: the Kremlin's the first and last place to look.

Quote: "Rudd said more than 250 counterterrorism officers are on the scene evaluating more than 240 pieces of evidence and interviewing about 200 witnesses. They are backed by roughly 180 military personnel providing logistical support, including the removal of ambulances feared to possibly be contaminated by the nerve agent."

Sounds like this was Putin's round, maybe the most expensive pizza bill he has ever been asked to pay.

I think we need to hold off on the war rhetoric for now. This is exactly the same sort of hysteria that led us into Iraq. We literally have zero evidence other than the fact that some type of nerve agent was used and that, whatever it was, it was unsuccessful. The hypothesis of state involvement rests largely on the understanding that only governments have the sophisticated laboratories needed to manufacture nerve agents, but when the nerve agent used doesn't seem potent enough to kill the target victim, it does raise questions in my mind.

The victim revealed the identities of dozens of Russian spies when he became a double agent so there is probably no shortage of other people holding a personal vendetta against him who might also have access to Russian chemical weapons stores or knowledge of how to produce these weapons. The idea that Putin himself or the Russian state is officially ordering these hits is not beyond the realm of possibility, but we need evidence to prove this. I think targeting the daughter is a very interesting clue because if it were a disgruntled former colleague, I imagine they would have few qualms about killing her too. If it were an operation of the Russian state, I think they would have been professional enough to only target him and not the daughter. I also don't think the Russian state would have botched the attempt. Of course, the evidence will shed more light on this mystery as it's revealed. Let's just wait and see.

Is it really Russian ? Can't the guy could have died of something less obvious ?

There’s a red under your bed

Nothing as yet proven. And the Brits have a long history of state-sponsored false flags and attacks on their own citizens.

Oh don't talk rubbish.

Depressing how urging a bit of caution has again become an unpopular view. I guess every generation needs to learn the same mistakes over again.

Eppee quote: “Can't the guy could have died of something less obvious?”

Like what? Anyway, he’s still alive isn’t he?

Like what? Anyway, he’s still alive isn’t he?

Car accident, mugging, home invasion, arsenic, whatever ...