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UK, Italy, US, and Brazil lead the world with COVID-19 deaths. All controlled by corrupt incompetent leaders. The BIGGEST LOSER leader is responsible for 420,000 deaths in the US.

The Boris Johnson copied trumps failed leadership policies (that is why trump was not re-elected), and he was also infected and almost died like trump.

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The UK govt still stands, amazing.

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Shows the rate is declining on the actual Gov site. But the things are messy like his hair.

Britain is in lockdown but people are still everywhere without social distancing. Btw, people there are asked to choose the vaccine, either British or German vaccine. Both got terrible side effects. And it needs twice.

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An island nation suffering 100,000+ deaths.... This is the sorry end result of an incompetent leadership and a society that is too selfish to pull together for the greater benefit of the whole community!

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Johnson, Trump and Bolsonaro. Do not vote for any more incompetent, populist right windbags or parties led by them. Just not good enough.

The Tories will shovel all the blame on Johnson before turfing him out.

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Boris deserves criticism for his early actions, but at least his cabinet knows how to roll out a vaccine in an efficient manner.

The buffoon in America didn’t even have a bad plan. There was NO plan for transporting, warehousing and injecting the vaccine. It’s criminal negligence.

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Just numbers. Proof please

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A more transmissible variant identified in southeast England helped push infections to new highs, and brought a new lockdown, even as a nationwide vaccination campaign began.

One thing I dare positively evaluate is that the UK was quick and accountable to the world for the variant. It is much, much better and more responsible than the Communist China.

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Just numbers. Proof please

Sigh. What proof would satisfy you?

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Cost of the vaccine for UK residents $0

Cost of Covid treatment for UK residents $0

Imagine never having to worry about paying for medical treatment or medicines?

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I dont think the people referred to in this article are happy about that

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@foreignbrotherhoodarmy

Just numbers. Proof please

Have a little think about this, and then be specific in your request. What kind of proof would you like?

Would you like to see the bodies?

Would you like to see the postings for the funerals?

Would you like to get copies of the obituaries or the death certificates?

Would you like a list of names to be published? That'll be especially nice for the grieving relatives and friends, to be subject to potential harassment.

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Those of us outside the UK, lets count our blessings we do not live is such a terribly governed part of the world. Just incredible incompetence over there, worse even than the US, and this largely avoidable disaster has weakened the UK even more in the eyes of the world.

Disgusting Johnson and his entire cabinet should resign in disgrace.

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Cost of the vaccine for UK residents $0

Cost of Covid treatment for UK residents $0

Imagine never having to worry about paying for medical treatment or medicines?

but with 100,000 deaths, someone is going to have to pay for the caskets.

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Hey with 100,000 covid deaths, EPL is still playing matches. Go Man City!!!

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The UK toll is more than twice as many people as were killed by German bombs in Britain in the 1940-41 Blitz, and 30,000 more than the total number of British civilians killed during the six years of World War II.

What a complete meaningless and stupid comparisson is that!

To compare World War II casualities with Covid 19 death cases.

It is zero related!

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Prime Minister Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Face Palm Johnson.

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The figures are meaningless if they include people who died in traffic accidents with covid.

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The UK toll is more than twice as many people as were killed by German bombs in Britain in the 1940-41 Blitz, and 30,000 more than the total number of British civilians killed during the six years of World War II.

What a complete meaningless and stupid comparisson is that!

It gives an idea of the scale of the disaster in the UK in historical terms.

I read one interesting point on WW2 that some boneheads refused to follow the rules in the Blitz. Apparently some thought the whole thing was overblown and they didn’t turn off the lights during bombing raids. They have their equivalents today.

I suppose it’s a good thing in one way that they didn’t have the internet back then. Trolls, conspiracy theorists and sock puppets spreading nonsense could have been a further problem.

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Britain is the fifth country in the world to record 100,000 virus-related deaths, after the United States, Brazil, India and Mexico, and by far the smallest. The U.S. has recorded more than 400,000 COVID-19 deaths, the world’s highest total, but its population of about 330 million is about five times Britain’s.

I wonder where all the nay-sayers are about the system in Japan. For awhile I thought we are the worst in the world. I'm sorry if this news hurts your ego!

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Cost of the vaccine for UK residents $0

Cost of Covid treatment for UK residents $0

Imagine never having to worry about paying for medical treatment or medicines?

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Canada has same costs....none. There are many other countries the same way.

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The cost at the point of use may be $0 but they pay quite a lot in taxes every month.

Still a great system when all is compared.

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The cost at the point of use may be $0 but they pay quite a lot in taxes every month.

Still a great system when all is compared.

Yep, I flinch when I hear ‘free’ healthcare. The people pay for this.

A pity some morons don’t realise that this system does have its limitations and they need to take personal responsibility.

Follow the rules.

Oh, and stop eating like pigs. Get your lardarse to the gym.

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It is worth point out the concept of UK NHS universal system of health care, free at the point of delivery, based on clinical need, irrespective of the ability to pay.

Not free. One has to make a national insurance contribution.

Now, should the finger of blame be directed at Messrs Johnson, Gove, Hancock. To name but a few

A measure for sure, there collective failure to fully protect the elderly care home community, also a rather headless display in the area of quantifying risk and creating a credible policy to secure support for a national lockdown.

But wait for a moment, the role of Public Health England in the appalling set of statistics cannot be ignored,

One incompetent failure after another, in obtaining PPE equipment, to overseeing COVID-19 patients discharged from Hospitals only to be moved into the care home communities.

That 29,000 deaths alone and counting.

Track and Trace fiasco, and hapless Dido Harding who comprehensively failed to predict or subsequently adjust strategy to measure demand when people refusal to answer their cell phones.

Then there is the people and its miscreant, selfish partying 18- to 35-year-olds, who blatantly refused to support measure put in place to guard against transmission. No masking up, little social distancing.

Party away whist the most venerable in communities were filling the funeral parlors.       

Last but not least the devolved government, Scotland and Wales , there inability even to distribute vaccines to the most venerable members of there own communities. 

Wait, the Labour opposition, led by Capt Hindsight.     

I guess it is must easier and more convenient pin all the blame of Boris and co.

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Britain is in lockdown but people are still everywhere without social distancing. Btw, people there are asked to choose the vaccine, either British or German vaccine. Both got terrible side effects. And it needs twice.

More made up nonsense. A great deal more distancing than in Japan, they desperately need to introduce distancing in shops. No one chooses the vaccine they have, you take the one that is available and they do not have terrible side effects. Stop spreading anti vaccine nonsense.

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Country with the second highest levels of vaccinations. The post photos are misleading. Johnson and Co have failed to get a grip on the pandemic.

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Cost of the vaccine for UK residents $0

Cost of Covid treatment for UK residents $0

Imagine never having to worry about paying for medical treatment or medicines?

Could this have c

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Cost of the vaccine for UK residents $0

Cost of Covid treatment for UK residents $0

Imagine never having to worry about paying for medical treatment or medicines?

Could this have contributed to the deaths?

Would the population have taken care of their health better if healthcare is not free?

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Redbear

Cost of the vaccine for UK residents $0

Cost of Covid treatment for UK residents $0

Imagine never having to worry about paying for medical treatment or medicines?

Common mistake by non Brits. All working people paid the monthly National Insurance. Those who are retired will have paid during their working lives. The NHS system relies on the fact 100% of the people paying won't be 100% needing healthcare.

You pay for medicines

Free at the point of service regardless of what is needed. My son needs a hernia op but can't even get on the waiting list because of the Covid-19.

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I wonder where all the nay-sayers are about the system in Japan. For awhile I thought we are the worst in the world.

But we are indeed the worst in the world.

Number of deaths is an irrelevant metric, only the number of tests count.

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Could this have contributed to the deaths?

Would the population have taken care of their health better if healthcare is not free?

Hard to say.

I suppose you could look at the US which has a lower life expectancy than the UK as a point of comparison. Other European countries with universal healthcare have a higher life expectancy than the US.

I suspect it’s more to do with cultural factors, but we can do more in the way of education to make people aware of bad habits.

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While UK witnesses its 100,000th virus death, The total number of infected cases worldwide has crossed the 100,000,000 threshold.

We all wished it could be the 'turning point' and that the daily infected cases would start to drop..

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I suppose you could look at the US which has a lower life expectancy than the UK as a point of comparison. 

Yes, @Jimizo, that came to mind immediately after i sent the post.

The US dont seem to have taken care of their health better though healthcare is expensive

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i@nToday  12:23 pm JST

Number of deaths is an irrelevant metric, only the number of tests count.

Number of deaths are most relevant because hospitalization and test count have no bearing if reducing the number of deaths is not the goal.

With regards to coping with this pandemic, no particular government is superior to another. At some point or another, every system messed-up and made a blunt decisions. Otherwise, why are we having this endemic ?

In the mean time, lets wait until this endemic is over before we pass the bucket.

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Would the population have taken care of their health better if healthcare is not free?

Yes of course. People don't mind being unable to breathe, being intubated and suffering long-term severe health issues, even eventually being buried, so long as they don't have to pay any money.

(rolls eyes)

What I hear from the BBC and from family in the UK about lockdowns, social distancing and the use of face coverings doesn't match with those photos of crowds on beaches, on the Underground and at the races. The UK has its share of freedumb lovers.

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UK passes 100,000 coronavirus deaths as outbreak still rages

USA: Those are rookie numbers! But there was a a bit on the news last night about a 300+ person party in the UK. around 80 or so were arrested. Crazy stuff!

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USA: Those are rookie numbers!

The per capita deaths are higher than the USA.

Rule Britannia.

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What I hear from the BBC and from family in the UK about lockdowns, social distancing and the use of face coverings doesn't match with those photos of crowds on beaches, on the Underground and at the races. The UK has its share of freedumb lovers.

I hear the same thing from both my overseas contacts and foreign news. Much like California, far too many people ignored the lockdowns. I am at loss for words at the pure evil these people represent.

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Yes of course. People don't mind being unable to breathe, being intubated and suffering long-term severe health issues, even eventually being buried, so long as they don't have to pay any money.

(rolls eyes)

Was referring to general health which if better generally among the population would have resulted in less overall deaths given the same number of infections.

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@Cleo,

if you look at the time of the picture, you will see that several are from before the start of restriction, on a time where mask were not so easy to found and during the subdue period around summer. This could explain the gap in reporting.

After, obviously every country got is share of freedumb lovers, some being, most likely, awarded a biggest amount of it than other, but do not know if there are studies about that.

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i@nToday  12:23 pm JST

Number of deaths is an irrelevant metric, only the number of tests count.

Number of deaths are most relevant because hospitalization and test count have no bearing if reducing the number of deaths is not the goal.

Thank you.

Now i understand why posters add the seemingly unneeded /s or rolleyes

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USA: Those are rookie numbers!

The per capita deaths are higher than the USA.

Article did stress that although US has 4x the number of deaths, they have around 5x the population

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Was referring to general health which if better generally among the population would have resulted in less overall deaths given the same number of infections.

You mean in normal times people are quite happy having strokes, needing insulin injections, carrying around oxygen tanks for their emphysema, living (or not) with liver cirrhosis, chronic kidney disease, cancer, hypertension and the rest, just so long as they don't have to pay?

Yes, of course.

if you look at the time of the picture, you will see that several are from before the start of restriction

True. Several more are not:

Dec. 12, crowds of shoppers in Regent Street

Sept 22, crowded restaurant in Soho

Sept 26, Covidiot rally in Trafalgar Square

With or without restrictions in place, why would anyone choose to be in any of those places in the middle of a pandemic??

smhis

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You mean in normal times people are quite happy having strokes, needing insulin injections, carrying around oxygen tanks for their emphysema, living (or not) with liver cirrhosis, chronic kidney disease, cancer, hypertension and the rest, just so long as they don't have to pay?

Yes, of course.

Lol no

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this largely avoidable disaster has weakened the UK even more in the eyes of the world.

Well the Chinese could have prevented by a full lock down and alerting every nation..but as was the case with every nation..all tried to initially play it down..the economics of the lock down took preference.. as such there was no way this could have been avoided.

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UK, Italy, US, and Brazil lead the world with COVID-19 deaths. All controlled by corrupt incompetent leaders.

This would apply to most (not all) of the world leaders..the deaths are all related to comorbidity and/or unhealthy immune system..and in most cases the lifestyle that leads to that state.

These countries and few others are extensively testing, UK has tested all of its population, US is at 90%.. and hence these numbers..many others are not releasing actual numbers or simply minimal testing.

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@ Luddite

It's not made up nonsense. It's true. My many relatives work in Nursing home in UK. They are asked to choose the vaccine. Some of them got fainted, became really weak, got terribly sick after vaccinated, from both German and British.

People like you who are far away from UK don't know what really is happening. You heard the Britain the first country to use vaccine and you all think like sheep that they are doing it better with it? You got to go to London and see it yourself that it is actually worsening there.

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Trump promised we'd be number one, and he kept his promise. I wish he hadn't. So many other promises he broke, but that one he had to keep.

A neighbor, in his 50s, was taken away today. He lived alone, was very sick three days ago, and then no one saw him. Some of us tried calling him and his sister, but no luck (it turns out she works night shift, and had her phone off). Knocking on his door and windows, still no luck. We called the police and notified them. A policeman found an unlocked window and went in. He had passed away.

He was in the covid ward last march. Had been in a coma and intubated. Eventually came home and went back to work, but he kept going back to the doctors because he had trouble breathing. He never felt really well, just varying degrees of not well. Not everyone gets to be tended to by 200 staff at Walter Reed.

Like I said, I would gladly let someone else have the number one position.

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It's not made up nonsense. It's true. My many relatives work in Nursing home in UK. They are asked to choose the vaccine. Some of them got fainted, became really weak, got terribly sick after vaccinated, from both German and British.

Lies. You are given an available vaccine, you can choose whether to have a vaccination, but you cannot choose which one; people fainting after an injection or having blood drawn is common, and “terribly sick”, nice and vague and subjective, but enough to try and put people off. You are being wilfully disingenuous and alarmist with your anti vaccine nonsense. I may not be it be working in the U.K. at the moment but I have friends and relatives working on the front lines, and everything they tell me contradicts your fear mongering. Friends and relatives have had either one or both doses with none of the consequences you claim. Cases are falling in London and deaths levelling off. Shame on you. Describing those those who had vaccine “sheep” gives you away.

Thise who disparage effective health care of any kind are malignant.

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They are asked to choose the vaccine.

this sounds like made up nonsense, doing this unnecessary step would create a lot of problems least of which is delay

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"The official count records people who died within 28 days of testing positive for the virus".

Great, so what about the number who have deid without being tested? i thnk the death toll will be much higher, but we will never know, I am sure there will be people that have died at home or during the night or if there isolated or by them selfs, thinking its just a cold or flu.

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Great, so what about the number who have deid without being tested? i thnk the death toll will be much higher, but we will never know, I am sure there will be people that have died at home or during the night or if there isolated or by them selfs, thinking its just a cold or flu.

That number is estimated in the U.S. alone to be around 75,000 more.

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Last but not least the devolved government, Scotland and Wales , there inability even to distribute vaccines to the most venerable members of there own communities. 

What's that based on (apart from the usual howling of Tory and LibDem politicians in Scotland)? Each country in the UK has its own plan for delivering the vaccines and they are slightly different. In Scotland, immediate priority was give to people in care homes and front line staff. As of today, 95% of care home residents in Scotland have been vaccinated, ahead of equivalent numbers in England. On the other hand, and as a result of focusing on care homes, the roll-out for over-80s (next priority) has been slightly slower than in England (currently at 51% in Scotland compared to 75% in England). But it looks as though numbers will be much the same by the end of February. (I'm expecting mine in March. Some over-80 Japanese ladies I know in Glasgow have all had theirs.)

I know there were some distribution problems in Wales due to bad weather.

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You see, before folks get their knickers in a twist, in the U.K. they are actually testing for the virus (unlike Japan) , and not only that, the definition of a COVID fatality is pretty broad (anyone who passes away within 28 days of a positive PCR is chalked off as a COVID fatality, even if they were mown down by 44 tonne truck in the meantime).

If Japan applied the same standards, it wouldn't look hunky-dory here, either.

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I am not attempting to defend Johnson Government handling of this pandemic, far from it, Johnson, will before the next election face a challenge to his leadership of the party, and rightly so.

The political environment, UK leaving the European Union and the inevitable additional strain on supply chains has helped.

Also, the four “E's”, engage, encourage, explain, enforce.

This is the policy all police forces should be following.

However, understandingly officers wanting to fight crime, are running around like headless chickens, chasing fools and crazies, the walking dumbos, and deadheads.

So, officers are skipping the first three “E” and falling back on enforce. Here’s a £200.

Can’t blame them for that.  

It is all a bit of Britishness, or Englishness, reckless youth make rueful age, as Obi Wan Kenobi once stated "Who's the more foolish: the fool, or the fool who follows him?"

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albaleo

I was viewing Scottish Parliament TV, you are right, there is a lot of cross chamber how dare you very much.

Nicola Sturgeon under fire over slower Covid vaccine rollout in Scotland.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/25/nicola-sturgeon-under-fire-over-fact-scotland-has-worst-covid-vaccine-rate

This is two days ago so the number presented could well be out of date.

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@itsonlyrocknroll,

My post above was a little bit rantish. Sorry! I may have come over as if I worship the Scottish devolved government. I don't. They're politicians, and so should be watched carefully.

I don't like Covid being used for politics. I don't envy any governments implementing solutions. As long as they're trying to overcome the problems, I can excuse mistakes. I'm sure we all have contributed our share of SNAFU situations.

I notice I missed out the Labour party in my post. Is it because they have become largely irrelevant here in Scotland, and their rants are largely among themselves. A shame, considering their roots.

(But I really don't like Johnson. Give me Suga any day.)

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i@n

Number of deaths is an irrelevant metric, only the number of tests count.

Err what? The number of deaths is the ONLY relevant metric, everything else is subjective. And the number of deaths is not all that overwhelming anywhere, just hardly a blip in the normal death rate an any country. As epidemics go, this one is pretty harmless.

Only some weird reason, suddenly deaths with this particular infection are constantly in the news.

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You are quite correct, albaleo, stating one opinion is not a rant.

They're politicians, and so should be watched carefully.

This cuts to the heart of the matter and the reason I wholeheartedly support Scottish Independence.

For better or for worse, yes the economic challenges will be a struggle.

However Independence will bring the people of Scotland within spitting distance of the politicians and elected Government.

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