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UK polls point to 'electoral extinction' for Prime Minister Sunak's Conservatives

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Excellent.

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Excellent.

For once we agree.

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quote: the Conservatives could end up with just 72 seats.

That's still 72 too many.

Enjoy your Brexit bonus, Tories.

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Political parties that are out of ideas go into the wilderness. There they either discover a new organizing principle that attracts voters, or they die out.

Time will tell which it is for the Tory party but with a succession of utter morons at the helm, it’s not looking good.

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Never happened in their history.

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So basically Farage is going to send Labour to victory. Good on him I guess.

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There is a number of factors, stats if you will missing, the error rates, the undecideds, those that "don't express and presence", most importantly those that will abstain from voting.

Another sample quantity is projected voter turn out.

I suggest scepticism, in that voting booth on the day?

Where is that cross going to land?

Then factor in "first past the post".

Example@ Reform was supposed polling a point above Tory, these pollsters above have Reform significantly behind?

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376 seats down to 72 after one administration?

Has this administration been bad enough to deserve that?

Yes, they have.

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For those blaming brexit on the Tories, wasn’t it started by a UGOV poll which triggered a debate, and seeking popularism support latched into by BJ & Co ? So clearly those who voted for Brexit have to share some of the blame.

That said, the Toriea have become a self-centered snobby out of touch bunch of idiots who don’t really seem to focus upon their own mandates/ portfolios - beit NHS , Defense, etc. And are letting immigrants close the gates after they’ve become safe themselves, with James Cleverly simply pulling numbers out of the air for new requirements for Family visas.

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Anyone wanting to blame Sunak for all this should keep in mind that Tory MPs and, admittedly to a lesser extent, party members chose him as their leader, just as they chose Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. It's right that the whole party faces oblivion.

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That said, the Toriea have become a self-centered snobby out of touch bunch of idiots who don’t really seem to focus upon their own mandates/ portfolios - beit NHS , Defense, etc. And are letting immigrants close the gates after they’ve become safe themselves, with James Cleverly simply pulling numbers out of the air for new requirements for Family visas.

Yes.

I’m very interested in your view that Sunak is going to lead his party to a landslide victory. I haven’t come across anyone else believing that. What’s your reasoning?

Anyone wanting to blame Sunak for all this should keep in mind that Tory MPs and, admittedly to a lesser extent, party members chose him as their leader, just as they chose Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. It's right that the whole party faces oblivion.

They needed a very skilled leader to even attempt to rescue something from the mess after Johnson and Truss.

Sunak isn’t that.

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RE: The landslide victory

No matter how improbable (undesirable) something may seem, there still remains a faint possibility of such an outcome that shouldn’t be neglected - a bit like gambling on the least likely horse to win a race , and seeing it win.

One could say that manipulation of voting results could lead to such an event - Government’s support Israel for a reason, perhaps that reason could be to manipulate a Political win for them ?

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No matter how improbable (undesirable) something may seem, there still remains a faint possibility of such an outcome that shouldn’t be neglected - a bit like gambling on the least likely horse to win a race , and seeing it win

Oh, I see. You see it as a very improbable event. This didn’t come across in your post which clearly sounded like you saw it as likely:

Sadly, it looks like Sunak will have a lucky turn-around and the Conservatives will win a Landslide victory.

Anyway, glad that’s clear now.

One could say that manipulation of voting results could lead to such an event - Government’s support Israel for a reason, perhaps that reason could be to manipulate a Political win for them ?

Sounding a bit like a conspiracy theory rabbit hole - a dark place. Not making a lot of sense.

There are some very silly people who believe in stolen elections ( among other nonsense ) with no evidence.

Not to be taken seriously.

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JimizoToday  02:18 pm JST

Sounding a bit like a conspiracy theory rabbit hole - a dark place. Not making a lot of sense.

There are some very silly people who believe in stolen elections ( among other nonsense ) with no evidence.

Stolen election conspiracy theories might make sense when an election is genuinely a bit close to call, but that definitely isn't going to be the case in the UK next month.

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Reform, Lib dems, Greens, simply don’t process the resources to sign up a solid “grass roots”, build a core canvasing fund raising capability, activists, across a spread of 650 constituencies, England, Scotland, Wales, and Northern Ireland.

I understand only five family members are intending to vote, a noticeable disenfranchisement from the democratic process.

Two main parties, both “appear and sound the same”

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Two main parties, both “appear and sound the same”

I heard one view that if Labour and the Tories were offering the same things, Labour would be preferable given the sheer incompetence, corruption and instability of the last 5 years.

Not too inspiring, but I suppose it could be regarded as ‘change’.

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I am surprised, listening to my family suggesting both Conservatives and Labour have a degree of similarity in their policy manifestos.

An example would be tax policy, Both parties are quite a distance apart.

Another area would be immigration, and capping numbers.

Personally, if able to vote, would not countenance another five years of conservative government.

Reform, Greens, Lib dems don't inspire beyond debating berating the Conservative and Labour.

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