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UK gov't says people with COVID in England won't need to self-isolate

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Wise and sensible decision.

-4 ( +9 / -13 )

Stupid decision. They are desperate to end free testing and every announcement is to pave the way to ending the free tests. I have to test twice weekly for my job, as do carers and many other people. Do they expect us to pay for the tests ourselves, yet demand we get tested. Not going to happen.

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This is a good indicator that the “I have to be vaccinated to protect you” narrative was false. My vaccination doesn’t protect you neither does my mask.

your vax and your mask protects you. Nothing you have ever done protected me.

each person can protect themselves. and the government can stop getting people fired and stop restricting peoples freedoms of entry and movement. Great policy.

-8 ( +9 / -17 )

Always leave your options open.

Free testing for the venerable and carers.

0 ( +2 / -2 )

Free testing for the venerable and carers.

Free testing for the vulnerable and carers.

Fixed it.

6 ( +6 / -0 )

People in the UK realise that getting on with life is more important than not.

Japan will follow the same path later this year.

-5 ( +1 / -6 )

Good decision. It is Omicron now, so time to forget the hysteria. Omicron is extremely infectous and very mild. Like the Dr. from South Africa who reported the fist cases said: It is the vaccine we have been waiting for.

-4 ( +3 / -7 )

zichi

Several thousand a week are still dying

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

Dying with, not dying from. Small word, big difference.

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zichi

You did not check the link then?

It shows the various deaths.

You did not check the recent freedom of information request to the UK Corona dashboard then? It turns out that if you ask for ONLY Corona on the death certificate, instead of just "Corona on the death certificate", removing the comorbidities, the number of deaths drops by 95% or so.

Hence, your panic is cause by looking at "with" Corona data.

-1 ( +6 / -7 )

Zichi

From the link you posted:

"Daily numbers of deaths of people whose death certificate mentioned COVID-19 as one of the causes, "

I.e. if you are morbidly obese, diabetic, asthmatic, and maybe have late stage cancer to top it off and die, you are counted as "Corona death" if you test positive too. You might want to check your links before basing arguments on them...

-4 ( +3 / -7 )

-the UK still has Europe’s highest coronavirus toll after Russia, with more than 160,000 recorded deaths.

In the UK, a Covid death has always been recorded as anyone who died (of anything) and tested positive for Covid in the previous 4 weeks.

So if you tested positive, had no symptoms and got hit by a truck, you were a Covid death. This is not a secret - the BBC reported it each time they updated their stats, but when news is syndicated, it is dropped.

It would be interesting to know what qualifies as a Covid death in other countries.

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Hence, your panic is cause by looking at "with" Corona data.

I didn’t read any panic in the post.

You are projecting your own hysterics here.

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Jimizo

I didn’t read any panic in the post.

Does it matter what you "detect"?

Fact is, the UK data cited say "Daily numbers of deaths of people whose death certificate mentioned COVID-19 as one of the causes, "

Ergo, misleading, panic-creating numbers.

-4 ( +1 / -5 )

Ergo, misleading, panic-creating numbers.

Hysterical types see these numbers as ‘panic-creating’ because they themselves are prone to panic and in some instances, total hysterical meltdowns.

Most of us are far more rational and balanced. No walls closing in or anything like that.

Several thousand a week are still dying

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

A perfectly rational statement. I’ve read zichi’s posts for years. He’s not prone to hysterics. A very balanced man.

Only the those prone to panic would see any panic in what he posted.

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Jimizo

Ergo, misleading, panic-creating numbers.

Hysterical types see these numbers as ‘panic-creating’ because they themselves are prone to panic and in some instances, total hysterical meltdowns.

I see the panic all over the Corona=related threads here and in the newspaper articles. If you dont, good on you.

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

zichi

"Had it not been for Covid-19, most patients would have survived and continued to enjoy

That is the opinion of your "New Statesman" writer, not a fact.

Fact is, if you are hospitalized with multiple comorbidities, life has not been very enjoyable for you lately. Common sense.

-3 ( +2 / -5 )

Fact is, the UK data cited say "Daily numbers of deaths of people whose death certificate mentioned COVID-19 as one of the causes, "

So should they not report deaths with covid and instead stifle this information? I thought you people wanted more transparency... seems you want to go more of an authoritarian route where the truth is hidden, right?

3 ( +6 / -3 )

Only the those prone to panic would see any panic in what he posted.

They call that projection. It's a very real phenomenon of humanity, one we can see right in the example you highlighted.

3 ( +6 / -3 )

I see the panic all over the Corona=related threads here and in the newspaper articles. If you dont, good on you.

I think you are starting to see panic where it doesn’t exist.

If you come across hysterical types who think Alex Berenson is a good source of information or that we will see bodies piling up on the streets, fair enough. That is mental instability and panic. These people are useless in sensible conversations.

People posting numbers that can be debated is not a sign of panic.

You seem to be projecting here.

1 ( +3 / -2 )

The Tory politcians just want to be able to attend cheese and wine parties without getting into any trouble.

0 ( +1 / -1 )

"Dying with, not dying from [Covid].

Word games.

Dying with a heart attack. Dying with cancer. Dying with a severed femoral attery.

Only, the Death Cult may be onto something here. See, when people die from Covid in the ICU zonked out on drugs so they can have that Freedumb tube shoved down their throat so they can, y'know, live

They don't do it alone. They do it with Covid.

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Omicron is the end of this pandemic-prepare for a reversion to more normal living…

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Blacklabel

This is a good indicator that the “I have to be vaccinated to protect you” narrative was false. My vaccination doesn’t protect you neither does my mask.

your vax and your mask protects you. Nothing you have ever done protected me.

Actually, it did. The vaccination make people less likely to catch and spread covid and their masks stop their aerosol from spreading the virus.

Also, do you think surgeons should stop wearing masks in surgery now that you have declared that they don't work?

It's more like an indicator that the UK has given up. Deaths are thousands a week - and stop the nonsense of with/of - people don't spontaneously die of asthma in high numbers. At least the number of deaths is declining, so maybe everyone is either vaccinated or has got it.

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kurisupisu

Omicron is the end of this pandemic-prepare for a reversion to more normal living…

Until the next variant...

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LudditeFeb. 20  07:36 pm JST

Stupid decision. They are desperate to end free testing and every announcement is to pave the way to ending the free tests. I have to test twice weekly for my job, as do carers and many other people. Do they expect us to pay for the tests ourselves, yet demand we get tested. Not going to happen.

Very stupid. Just because Bozo partied like it's 1999 is no excuse for the other Brits to be so careless and reckless. Bozo caught CoVid and survived and he oughta know better but they don't call him 'bozo' for nothing, do they? Now the elderly-aged Queen herself has it. Does THAT ring an alarm?

1 ( +2 / -1 )

A very sensible decision (at last!) from the UK government. We don't need any special laws for covid - the same laws as apply to other similar diseases, like the flu, are perfectly sufficient. Besides, experience has shown that people can be trusted to behave in a sensible and responsible way, with those who are sick staying at home, regardless of any legal requirement.

We need to return to normal life. Being a new disease, covid seemed very frightening, but we now know that the dangers were over-estimated. In the UK only just over 17,000 people were directly killed by it, and the average age of death from covid was actually greater than the average age of death without it! So let's all now have a nice cup of tea, calm down and get back to enjoying our lives.

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