Ukraine's capital bans Independence Day festivities, fearing Russian attack

Smart move. Better safe than sorry. Hopefully Independence Day festivities can resume next year.

Smart move. Better safe than sorry. Hopefully Independence Day festivities can resume next year.

Agreed, in the south and the Dombas they will be celebrating independence from Ukraine.

90 percent of Ukrainain believe they will liberate all of Ukraine from Russian occupation,31 percent believe Ukraine win the war by the invasion anniversary,34 percent believe the war will be won in 1 and 2 years,18 percent believe the US leadership is the fault,they were invaded,20 percent blame Zelensky and the government, Ukrainain that blame others for their country,are ungrateful,

Antique,do you think it arrogant for Ukrainain to blame the US for their plight,this would just like me as an American, blaming Canada for the problem of the US

Freedom the Russian way, freedom to not celebrate your own Independence Day.

Wise choice....Vlad the Butcher's brutality against innocent women and children knows no bounds...

He just assassinated the daughter of his strongest supporter to deflect from his planes and ammo dumps getting blown up in Crimea, and to to try to inflame the Russian people...though I'm sure they've seen this type of KGB/FSB false flag operation before and won't be duped...

Yrral

Antique,do you think it arrogant for Ukrainain to blame the US for their plight,this would just like me as an American, blaming Canada for the problem of the US

Yes, completely stupid. Russia is the cause of their plight.

But this is much more likely to be work of Ukraine agents 

Or a rival Russian crime gang, or perhaps a disgruntled Wagner Group thug who hadn't been paid. But given Putin's control over all Russia, and how his other hits have turned out to be blunders, recall Novichok in the UK, I believe Putin had a hand it somewhere along the way, he is an autocrat, after all.

I believe with no evidence that Putin had a hand it the murder, which I will admit, unlike Putin backers who trust kids.Kremlin.Ru, RT, infowars perhaps CCP media and then parrot what they have heard or read from those pro-Putin media outlets and others, but will not admit they use those sources, knowing most reasonable people would question them, then their audience is rarely reasonable people..

Eastman - one can be heroic while still taking reasonable precautions. What would you say if civilians were killed by Russian strikes if they had decided to go ahead with Independence Day celebrations. Better to be cautious given the circumstances, no?

Putin just assassinated the daughter of his strongest supporter to deflect from his planes and ammo dumps getting blown up in Crimea, and to to try to inflame the Russian people.

You seriously believe this ? 

You don't? You believe that Ukrainian agents somehow infiltrated all the way to Moscow, broke through a high security area, planted a large bomb, then escaped without being caught?

Or Putin's own KGB/FSB, who were responsible for security, planted the bomb in a false flag op...

This is right out of KGB 101 - when faced with bad news always deflect, attack your own team, and blame it on the other guy...

Same false flag operation as the 1999 apartment bombings Putin blamed on the Chechens...

Putin just assassinated the daughter of his strongest supporter to deflect from his planes and ammo dumps getting blown up in Crimea, and to to try to inflame the Russian people.

I think it was the Russians starting to take out the people around Putin, since they can't get directly to him, to take him out. If the children of the people around Putin keep dying, the people around Putin are not going to be as supportive of Putin.

I've read speculation that the People's Freedom Party may have been behind that car bomb that killed Alexander Dugin's daughter. Perhaps knives inside the Kremlin are beginning to turn.

I'm sure that the man who's ordered people to fight to the death rather than surrender merely so that he could deny having lost has cancelled a mass gathering out of fear of a Russian attack rather than a popular revolt.

I’m confused, why would Putin fear a Russian attack?

I've read speculation that the People's Freedom Party may have been behind that car bomb that killed Alexander Dugin's daughter.

Russia's FSB are claiming that it was carried out by a Ukranian woman (accompanied by her 12 year old daughter) who entered the country in a Mini Cooper, panted the bomb and fled into Estonia.

I'm not making this up.

What's the standard response to this?

Oh, yeah.

"Sounds like a false flag operation."

Those who blame the assassination on Ukraine should think twice.

First time in years that the FSB has results within 2 days! Didn't happen with other cases.

Trust me, it was the FSB to blame it on Ukraine or an insider job!

This sounds a lot like the Apartment Bombings in 99 that Mini-me used to re-launch the Chechen war. Remember the ones where an FSB member was found with a "practice bomb" for training purposes in a basement but nobody in the building had heard about it?

If Ukrainian foreign intel were going to use it's limited opportunities and resources, it wouldn't waste them on a ditz like her. There are multiple other higher-value targets.

And the idea that the FSB could determine what the bomb was, who did it (with video!) where she went (Estonia of course. All the more reason to "deal" with them at a later date.) and that she had a kid within hours.

Wow, if only they had been that "competent" in Ukraine.....

Oh, and just imagine this:

-Bring your own child

-Bring your real ID

-Car registration plates from your own country for when you make your final escape

Does this sound like an assassin to you? Didn't think so!

If Ukrainian foreign intel were going to use it's limited opportunities and resources, it wouldn't waste them on a ditz like her. There are multiple other higher-value targets.

News reports say the young woman,s father was the intended (high-value ) target, and they decided to switch cars at the last minute. This " ditz" as you insultingly call the young lady killed, was not the target.

Ukraine said Russia fired rockets into several towns north and west of Europe's largest nuclear power plant, captured by Russian forces

Very intresting point of view

In reality

Ukraine fired rockets and shells into "Europe's largest nuclear power plant"

And it's not a secret. Mr Zelenskiy lost this war and this is nuclear blackmail

Those who blame the assassination on Ukraine should think twice.

Sorry I live in Russia and Ukrainian Special Forces realise some attack on civil infrastructure (gas pipelines, power lines, railway bridges) each week .

And it's 100 % official.

Olegek, sounds like a false flag operation to me.

Olegek, sounds like a false flag operation to me.

In modern world with modern technologies is absolutely unrealistic to hide such things

(to hit by rocket nuclear station)

Sorry it's not a 19 сentury

And territory of Ukraine very carefully controlled from air and space 24/7

Whom does this benefit?

(Using SNL Church Lady voice) Could it be, PUTIN???

His war, er... "Special Military Operation" (and popularity) failing. Maybe he needs something to justify a general mobilization? Maybe something to justify a an escalation (assuming that his sad-sack "army" were capable of that. Sounds like a job for the strategic rocket forces.)? Maybe he wants out of this losing hand he has dealt himself and needs to get rid of one of the biggest voices for the war?

Assuming that Daddy crazy-beard were the actual target (seems reasonable), the biggest beneficiary of said assassination would be mini-me, not Ukraine.

And isn't it funny how opposition figures can get gunned down in public, sometimes right in the Kremlin, and nobody can figure out who did it for years, but this guy (actually his daughter)? 5W1H solved in less than a full day.

That is some amazing (cough, cough) detective work, right there.

So it’s confirmed the Ukraine special forces agent didn’t do it in less than a full day?

or is it just against the narrative?

Blacklabel - I am pretty sure nobody on this board knows who did it. We will probably have to take Russia's word for it since it happened there and they are the ones investigating it.

Sorry I live in Russia and Ukrainian Special Forces realise some attack on civil infrastructure (gas pipelines, power lines, railway bridges) each week .

And it's 100 % official.

That's awful! What did Russia ever do to Ukraine to deserve this? Are the attacks happening more frequently lately?