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© Copyright 2022 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without permission.Ukraine's port of Mariupol holding out against all odds
By YURAS KARMANAU LVIV, Ukraine©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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PTownsend
I doubt the Kremlin has the ability to reflect on what they have done and doubt they would say the invasion has been a 'failure', given the Kremlin and Putin's personal history as a propagandist I assume the Russian leaders see as a success the destruction of cities and apartment buildings, and the deaths of thousands of civilians including women, children, the elderly and others physically unable to flee. Russia is the globe's sickest nation, led by Putin, who's shown he's a mad individual and the equally mad individuals in the Kremlin. These sick people are aided in their propaganda wars by 'useful idiots' around the globe, still claiming Putin is 'smart' and 'strong'. They say that the problem is the Ukrainians who want to protect their sovereign nation, not the Russians that invaded. And they say refuse to say Russia was the warmonger. But these pro-Russia, right wing extremists appear to be a global minority.
The Avenger
I continue to be amazed by the Ukrainian people. Their courage, resolve and commitment is extraordinary.
I only wish the civilian population wouldn't be killed, injured and abused as they are. It's hard to watch.
My thoughts are with the Ukrainian people, military and civilian, and all those who are working to provide assistance and support.
SuperLib
This is a terrible tragedy. Ukranians are dying every day. No amount of Russian "justification" will change my mind.
Yrral
Avenger,do you think it smart too take Russian senior backcommand in Belgorod,we're all the senior commanders ,are located and information is known on the internet,their location
tooheysnew
This mighty Russian military is good at only two things - the destruction of cities, & the indiscriminate killing of innocent civilians
Putin fanboys & Russian apologists must be so proud
Mr Kipling
The Russian figures couldn't be independently verified..... BUT the Ukrainian version is fully reported without such caveats.... This tells you all you need to know about this report. BTW Lviv is 1,300 km away from Mariupol, so the reporter is not exactly "on the ground".
UChosePoorly
Mr. Kipling - out of all of the things in this article (and there are many) to be upset about, this is what did it for you? Maybe the Russian claims take a little longer to verify because there aren't as many reliable, independent (non-Russian) sources embedded on that side of front lines? The truth will come out eventually, and it sounds like the ~1k Marines figure may not be far off.
PTownsend
It would be nice to think those who had posted unreliable (at best, often flat out disinformation) during the pandemic were not able to be more concerned about the veracity of their posts then.
Yrral
U,they were calling for help from Kiev ,for weeks,it obviously the US took the invasion seriously than Ukraine
u_s__reamer
As an armchair strategist I'm waiting for the Ukrainians to give the Russians another black eye by bombing the pride of Russian engineering, making the Kerch Bridge, Russia's (and Europe's) longest into its shortest. It would be amusing to see how Kremlin gaslighters would spin that blow to a strategically important bridge for Crimea (which Ukrainians won't need if they kick the Russians out of the occupied Crimean Peninsula).
The Avenger
I think Putin expected to just roll into Ukraine with little opposition, and that the people in the eastern parts would welcome his troops as liberators. None of his advisors took the risk of telling him he was full of it.
Now he's scaled back his goal to just taking the eastern Donbas section and Mariupol to open a bridge to Crimea. He doesn't mind if all the people who lived there are wiped out and the city totally destroyed.
Putin has gone back to full-on Stalin style dictatorship, complete with purges of the military and brutal suppression of the people in Russia.
TrevorPeace
@PTownsend, you speak too strongly. Doing so brings out the idiots, gives them a platform for hate by attacking you. Stick to the basics and wonder...what if? Too many scenarios to guess about. But, as a writer, I can imagine and daily observe in a journal. A woman I was fond of was killed outside Kyiv, on Putin's First Massacre. I am not happy.
Yrral
Avenger,Putin thought he would take Kiev , within hours after landing troops near Hostomel airfield near Kiev,but had attack from the North Google Putin Hostomel Failure
Blacklabel
War crime:
the US is also responsible as they are arming and funding Ukraine.
Blacklabel
no, I posted truth. Which is in disfavor here because propaganda sounds better to the narrative.
the mobile cremation propaganda is from a YouTube video of a waste disposal unit in 2013.
the scanning of the faces and using it to mock families on social media by sending pictures of the dead is a Washington Post article.
receipts? I got them.
FizzBit
Not just that, a French volunteer returning to France was interviewed saying basically the US is in charge of all the fighting. Not surprising really as they’ve been training and supplying Ukraine since 2014, and yes, supplying and training neo-nazis as well. Fight them now while they’re weak or fight them later when they’re stronger, war in Ukraine was inevitable. Last time I checked, Putin wasn’t training and arming any armies in Mexico or Canada or making plans to put offensive missile weaponry there. Invasions don’t happen in a vacuum.
Blacklabel
Then why are all the pictures and videos of them from 2013 Youtube video of a waste disposal unit. Fox isn’t “reporting” anything just repeating what others claim.
bass4funk
Exactly and other media outlets have been reporting the same thing.
tooheysnew
the truth is, Russia invaded Ukraine because of Putin’s ego. Russian military is killing innocent Ukrainian civilians because of Putin’s ego.
you post only the truths which support your agenda - which is bashing the west,
not sure why you’ve got so much disdain for the west.
Nor why you feel you have to defend Russia, Putin & their invasion & atrocities.
painkiller
The bodies of more than 900 civilians have been found in the region surrounding Kyiv following the withdrawal of Russian forces, said Andriy Nebytov, head of the regional police force, adding that many were “simply executed.”
Europe, are you going to continue to sit by and not get your troops in there?
UChosePoorly
He's welcome to try, but I don't think either Canada or Mexico are big fans of Putin and would surely smoke any Russian attempts to invade and do so. Russia is having enough trouble trying to take Ukraine next door. Can you imagine how well an over-sea invasion of Canada (NATO and biggest US trading partner) or Mexico (2nd biggest trading partner) would go?
Bob Fosse
According to you that’s ‘repeating propaganda’. Refreshing to hear you admit Fox are just as bad as everyone else.
Blacklabel
Once confidence gets to “medium” the word confidence doesn’t even apply anymore.
when you look at other things they were wrong about where they had high confidence it means even less.
I would say “kinda certain” describes this.
Yrral
Ukraine better force Putin in some kind of compromising position, because American care at first,then do not care no more,if they are not in peril
FizzBit
That clearly went over your head.
UChosePoorly
Oh, no, I got your point. People have been been trying to make the missiles in Cuba argument for a while now. You still seem like you are excusing Putin's invasion. Why is that? What other countries have you blamed for getting invaded?
stormcrow
What an awful country Russia is! Heartless!
Khaos
No word about the recent surrender of over a 1000 Ukrainian soldiers there..
Khaos
Ah, it is mentioned, didn't see it at first.
Yrral
2500 and 3000 Ukrainian soldiers died in Battle,so and 10000 injuries,that almost 5000 injuries a month and 60 killed in day ,this unsubstainable