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© Thomson Reuters 2022.Ukraine battling to stem Russian advance in north of Donetsk region
By Pavel Polityuk and Simon Lewis KYIV/KRAMATORSK, Ukraine©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
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ok1517
Shelling, destroying, any targets those Russian "forces" can hit.
But it ain't over until the f.. lady sings. And that can take quite some time.
Mr Kipling
Russia slowly and deliberately advancing towards their goals. Ukraine needs to get serious in negotiating a stop to the pointless killing. They cannot "win", every life lost now is just a waste. All very brave but still a waste.
proxy
Russia is now in good position to roll up any remaining resistance all the way to Kiev. Life isn't a movie, sometimes the bad guy wins.
Steve
I wish nothing but victory for Ukraine!
Russia and Putin are the laughingstock of the World.
2020hindsights
Mr Kipling
They are nowhere close to their goals. Russia’s stated objectives in its invasion of Ukraine remain regime change in Kyiv and the truncation of the sovereignty of any Ukrainian state. So I don't see Putin at the negotiating table any time soon.
2020hindsights
proxy
Surely, you jest. They don't have that capability.
Blacklabel
Ukraine should have negotiated months ago before they got in the poor position they are now.
all that money isn’t worth being used by the west as a proxy war location. Once the west loses interest and runs out of money, Ukraine is done.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
Ahh yes, they should have negotiated with a country that denies its existence.
Well that's certainly what fascist pro-invasion types hope for.
Yrral
Ukrainain treat weapon like they are toys,posting up on social media, something a child would do,these Himars are supposed to be in seperate location, whether Russian destroyed them ,only Ukrainain know
Blacklabel
Biden and Johnson have their own problems and no one is supporting to send 750 billion MORE to Ukraine.
they were in a much better negotiating position in May than now. Fact.
lincolnman
Or in other words...surrender. Some folks just believe you should roll over and appease an invader...
Good thing not many of them were around in the 1940s....
Kremlin faux talking points...as Russia's economy falls below third-world standards and it defaults on its bonds and debt...
The US far-right continues its adoration of Putin...
Blacklabel
It’s just a factual assessment of the situation.
Ukraine is in a worse negotiating position every day that passes and they can’t actually win this militarily.
So negotiations are the only way out of it.
FizzBit
This was inevitable. So sad all the Biden US UK EU NATO cheerleading and warmongering, AGAIN, fooled so many.
Blacklabel
So who in the west is agreeing to pay the 750 billion dollar bill to rebuild Ukraine? It got really quiet after Zelensky demanded that.
takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com
The only warmongers in Ukraine are the fascist invaders. Take it up with them.
Yrral
Will,I can say in one paragraph,that Ukrainain are deluding themselves,if the American will rebuild Ukraine,after Build Back Better fail in the US,
Tom San
Good question. Not me for sure (not that I matter).
Anyways, that's going to be a hard pill to swallow.
The Avenger
Russian claims they do not target civilians is just a bald faced lie.
Eastman
are UA forces started winning already?
just wanted be sure when they will crush russians/according Mr Zelensky/...
from my point of view it seems that more "tactical retreats" are going to happen in near future again...
ok1517
Eastman,
of course there will be more tactical retreats in the future.
Shortening the front line, better defense positions, and at the same time counterattacks, guerilla warfare, more military hardware, sabotage ..... those Russians won't be safe anywhere.
Blacklabel
none of those tactical retreats which lead to actually winning, just prolonging.
Who will continue to pay for all these actions to go on for years more?
Tom San
Japan.
stormcrow
@Mr Kipling "Ukraine needs to get serious in negotiating a stop to the pointless killing."
Seriously?! As if Ukraine is responsible for the pointless slaughter. By the way, what would you do if a vicious wolf invaded your home?
Strangerland
Um, do you not understand how war works or something? Things change.
u_s__reamer
The only outcome for the Russians after all their wanton destruction will be to inherit (temporarily) the dead wasteland they created in the Donbas. Their schadenfreude will be of short duration, however, and in a few years from now, their malicious gloating will be followed by bitter envy as they watch from their ramshackle Russian Federation a modern, thriving, Ukraine rising from the ashes of war.
2020hindsights
Wil
Well, we can start with more than $350 billion in frozen reserves from Russia’s Central Bank. And after that start selling seized assets of Russian oligarchs. The Russians caused the damage, it only seems fair that they pay part of the price of rebuilding it.
2020hindsights
Wil
None of the frozen reserves are in Switzerland. Europe, US, Canada and Japan account for $284 billion, which is a good start.
2020hindsights
Wil
Yep. For rogue imperialist nations that start wars. Not a bad signal to send in my book.