Ukraine has agreed on terms of minerals deal with U.S.: official

Lost part of territory and lost right to its own mineral, Slava Ukraini

He cannot do anything unless their is a treaty ratified by the Senate

I guess Zelenskyy figured if Trump feels he has a vested interest in Ukraine then he won't let Russia attack or take it over. It is a sad day when these are the types of agreements the US Mafiosi president forces on other countries for its "protection".

Trump continues to make asinine comments. Ukraine always has the right to fight on. The proof of this deal is whether shells and missiles are delivered by the Felon in Chief!!!

sakurasukiToday  07:24 am JST

Lost part of territory and lost right to its own mineral, Slava Ukraini

Better than being a Putin slave. You should know.

There is a general clause that says America will invest in a stable and prosperous sovereign Ukraine, that it works for a lasting peace, and that America supports efforts to guarantee security.

This gives Zelenskyy a clear out, if the US doesn’t protect Ukraine, it doesn’t get the minerals.

I wonder what our petulant MAGA-Putins have to say about this:

Asked a follow-up question - whether the provision of equipment and ammunition will be sustained going forward - he says: "Maybe until we have a deal with Russia... we need to have a deal, otherwise it's going to continue".

Zelenskyy probably knows that like all of Trump's leavings, this deal can be revised whenever we get an adult back in the White House.

Another stunning success by Trump!

Zelenskyy should go to the signing ceremony and say loudly and repeatedly, "We agreed that the US would continue to support Ukraine with equipment until the war is over!" What could Trump possibly say against that now?

They should talk about the mineral deal after Ukraine became peaceful. Ukraine is now in the middle of the war after Russia invaded. It looks like Trump and Putin are not much different. They are extremely greedy and arrogant to poor countries.

Trump did say 24 hours ,so that was BS , the deal is far from done and the game is ongoing ,who will though ?Hopefully the killing stops ,then its a win win ,till the next time .

iknowallToday  07:50 am JST

Another stunning success by Trump!

By following the Biden plan. Thanks Biden!!!

 following the Biden plan. Thanks Biden!!!

Biden? Plan? LOL

No he isn’t. He’s agreeing to keep the funds flowing.

Nope.

Biden tossed away US funds with nothing in return for the American people..

Trump's plan would see the United States jointly develop Ukraine's mineral wealth, with revenues going to a newly created fund that would be "joint for Ukraine and America".

Nothing in return except a war we didn't have to fight against a bully who needed a black eye. Seems like a good investment to me.

Anyway they can always renegotiate later, but if they lose the war they'll never see the light of day again.

Nothing in return except a war we didn't have to fight against a bully who needed a black eye. Seems like a good investment to me.

Exactly

this deal can be revised whenever we get an adult back in the White House.

I also don't think that's a given, neither is any adult would arguably back yourself out of a advantageous deal that is in place regardless of the underlying reason.

iknowall

No he isn’t. He’s agreeing to keep the funds flowing.

Nope.

Biden tossed away US funds with nothing in return for the American people..

Oh, you don’t think that Ukraine wouldn’t open up their minerals to countries that helped Ukraine in times of greatest need?

No, Biden treated Ukraine like an ally.

Trump just doesn’t understand foreign policy.

The whole world will no longer believe the United States as a trust worthy leader but a thief who rob the suffering country at desperate times and critical crisis. Trump's extortion on Ukraine for half of Ukraine minerals is like robbing a widow in front of everyone!

The art of deal : Robbery. America's finest skill !

Hope….future….security guarantees?

There will be a lot of armchair experts blathering on about this, but the fact is, nobody knows what this agreement involves yet. And Zelenskyy doesn't seem the type to back down from a fight, much less the type to agree to a deal with a snake like Trump if that deal doesn't have something good in it for him. He's the only one who has the power to decide.

We'll only know more when / if specifics are announced.

The Vultures are in action, one side russia eating territory and not the us.

Is the us great now?

The USA continues to lead the world and the Trump administration continues to enrich the American people-truly a golden age!

Many comments on here only a few days ago were stating that President Zelensky was not going to sign off on this and Trump was not going to get his mineral deal, but POTUS just keeps on getting his way.

And you can bet the contracts for the exploitation of those minerals will go directly to Trump's friends. Or, if he really has no shame, his family. A slightly less egregious version of what Dick Cheney did with Irak.

The whole world will no longer believe the United States as a trust worthy leader but a thief who rob the suffering country at desperate times and critical crisis.

That's certainly true while Trump's in the Oval Office. If/when he leaves, and we get someone who 's not a Russian asset, then maybe they can start to undo the damage, although I think that will involve decades, not years.

oh boy….the cope is off the charts here.

No agreement has been made yet, so you're salivating over a hypothetical. In the meantime, our reputation among anyone but the MAGA people is still heading in a very downwards direction.

One rumour about a possible agreement doesn't make up for the absolute clown show so far.

Many comments on here only a few days ago were stating that President Zelensky was not going to sign off on this and Trump was not going to get his mineral deal, but POTUS just keeps on getting his way.

Because russia has his ear more and is dangling big fat juicy lolipops in front of him. Ukraine is being forced to capitulate.

sellout?

Trump got 500 billion for America. All our money that Biden foolishly gave away, plus interest.

Oh, you don’t think that Ukraine wouldn’t open up their minerals to countries that helped Ukraine in times of greatest need?

It is now.

And who is the US president?

The whole world will no longer believe the United States as a trust worthy leader but a thief who rob the suffering country at desperate times and critical crisis.

And the point?

That's certainly true while Trump's in the Oval Office. If/when he leaves, and we get someone who 's not a Russian asset, then maybe they can start to undo the damage, although I think that will involve decades, not years.

Well, the Dems can rule out a running for a very long time because their only solution to everything is resist. 4 years and what did they have to show for it? Attack, resist, get Trump off the ballot, raids, 24/7 Trump, Trump, Trump, taxes and and the weaponization of our Federal government. So if they’re running on that and the same old policies, they won’t get anywhere near the White House.

Or, if he really has no shame

You're being overly generous with that 'if' there!

ushosh123Today  08:33 am JST this deal can be revised whenever we get an adult back in the White House.

I also don't think that's a given, neither is any adult would arguably back yourself out of a advantageous deal that is in place regardless of the underlying reason.

I think you are correct, realistically it is hard to see a compelling reason for a future administration to revise a deal that is beneficial to the US.

Trump just doesn’t understand foreign policy.

Recent results say differently. POTUS keeps on getting his way.

Biden tossed away US funds with nothing in return for the American people..

Again with this zero sum nonsense. Foreign policy shouldn’t be thought of as a set of business “deals”.

Both callous and foolish.

Trump got 500 billion for America.

He hasn’t got anything yet. Have you read the article?

“Trump had previously asked for "$500 billion worth" of rare earth minerals to make up for aid given to Kyiv -- a price tag Ukraine had balked at and which does not correspond with published U.S. aid figures.

The source said Washington had cut this clause, as well as others that were unfavorable to Ukraine.

"They removed all the clauses that did not suit us," the source said.”

There’s your imaginary 500 billion.

sellout?

Trump got 500 billion for America. All our money that Biden foolishly gave away, plus interest.

500 billion win maga !!!

hur dur

Basically it is extortion and the US vote at the UN was morally reprehensible. If they don't sign US will stop support. Apparently even Putin wants in on the deal to help extract minerals from occupied territories. Like a turkey being carved up. No doubt Trump will be thrilled. Beware small nations and Europe - might is right.

Wow, Russia takes the Dombas, the US take the minerals (well, the ones not in New Russia) All we need now is for Poland to reclaim Lviv and the west of Ukraine.

Considering the delicate position Zelensky is in, Trump could be more sensitive and understanding. Ukraine has already lost so much in terms of blood and treasure. Trump looks as though you can see the dollar signs in his eyes.

Certainly a non binding agreement to calm the POTUS for a while

iknowallToday  08:14 am JST

No he isn’t. He’s agreeing to keep the funds flowing.

Nope.

Biden tossed away US funds with nothing in return for the American people..

Trump's plan would see the United States jointly develop Ukraine's mineral wealth, with revenues going to a newly created fund that would be "joint for Ukraine and America".

The current lands held by Ukraine and it's independence are much more valuable than Trump's graft which will be handed back to Ukraine by a successor anyways.

OkinawaRider

Many comments on here only a few days ago were stating that President Zelensky was not going to sign off on this and Trump was not going to get his mineral deal, but POTUS just keeps on getting his way.

Not what I remember. People were saying that Zelenskyy wouldn’t sign the deal without security guarantees.

Zelensky has no choice, no options.

Mr KiplingToday  09:18 am JST

Wow, Russia takes the Dombas, the US take the minerals (well, the ones not in New Russia) All we need now is for Poland to reclaim Lviv and the west of Ukraine.

Poland will not be making any land claims and neither will Mr. "No Troops" Trump.

OkinawaRiderToday  08:49 am JST

Many comments on here only a few days ago were stating that President Zelensky was not going to sign off on this and Trump was not going to get his mineral deal, but POTUS just keeps on getting his way.

Call us when the check clears.

Trump could be more sensitive and understanding.

I don't think either of those are humanly possible in Donald Trump.

Thank you Trump for delivering what you promised.

The hypocrisy is hilarious.

Doesn't matter who's in power the US has always been like this, exploiting and taking advantage of other countries. trump is just shamelessly blatant

Not what I remember. People were saying that Zelenskyy wouldn’t sign the deal without security guarantees

There are no security guarantees in this deal.

“but but no one ever said that…..”

Ukraine was given security guarantees before. Has everyone forgotten how if Ukraine gave up its nukes the U.S., UK and Russia would guarantee its security or was it “assurance”. Thats the problem with politicians and wording. In fact all we hear now is “peace deal” what ever the “peace deal”. Poor Ukraine. Gave up its nukes, lost Crimea, as we sucked our thumbs, lost the Donbas and we sucked some more, they got invaded, and we never gave them enough to really defeat Russia and we shook in fear. Just as we threw the Cossacks back to Russia post WW2 we have thrown Ukraine back to Russia.

if Ukraine wants to continue we should send them more. Trump is a coward. A draft dodger. And an appeaser. I think China is watching this.and what does the Taiwan defence treaty really say? If Ukraines treaty was written on toilet paper, Taiwan must have some big worries in front of it.

I will let you in on a secret. There is no defense treaty.

 I think China is watching this.and what does the Taiwan defence treaty really say.

*Not what I remember. People were saying that Zelenskyy wouldn’t sign the deal without *security guarantees

There are no security guarantees in this deal. 

“but but no one ever said that…..”

There is no $500 billion in this deal.

”but but I didn’t say that 30 minutes ago….”

Ukraine and the US have agreed on the details of the subsoil agreement

https://epravda.com.ua/svit/ukrajina-uzgodila-dogovir-pro-nadra-iz-ssha-803697/

Much more detail, use google translator...

All highly questionable, I suggest unprincipled improper amoral, Ukraine is still at war with Russia.

The biggest brazen robbery in history..

And this is how the United States has historically aggrandized itself, stealing territories and natural resources from neighboring and supposedly allied countries..

Being an enemy of the US is bad but being their friend is deadly..

Neo-Colonialism at its best.

Trump wanted $500 billion for the $175 billion the US gave Ukraine, of which only $75 billion was military aid. American weapon manufacturers benefited from that aid. The amount of minerals has been reduced, and Ukraine will get 50% of it. Security is also part of the package.

Yesterday, Putin flew nuclear-capable bombers over Ukraine. Putin's air force deployed Tu-95MS nuclear-capable strategic bombers to pound targets across Ukraine, causing panic in Kyiv as residents rushed to underground shelters—a questionable man of peace.

I will let you in on a secret. There is no defense treaty.

 I think China is watching this.and what does the Taiwan defence treaty really say.

They are going to fight for Taiwan as much as they fought for Ukraine. Just substitute minerals for chips.

Zelensky has no choice, no options.

Unfortunately you are correct.

*Not what I remember. People were saying that Zelenskyy wouldn’t sign the deal without security guarantees.*

Selective memory. Security guarantees for Ukraine were always going to be included.

Never has so much been at stake, this war in Ukraine could easily provoke unpresidented conflict, far beyond the present dire situation.

On a number of instances Putin has aggressively threatened a nuclear confrontation.

This is not the time for agreeing terms of minerals rights/deals with U.S government.

I don't believe for a moment President Putin is trustworthy. Putin will never be confined to any treaty law.

Appeasement is a sure path to another "peace in our time" failure to confront the despot dictator.

So what could the unthinkable conclusion actually look like.

Dissecting the Idea of ‘Limited’ Nuclear War

https://www.apln.network/news/member_activities/dissecting-the-idea-of-limited-nuclear-war

Never say never!

"Ukraine has agreed on terms of minerals deal with U.S.: official."

Love him or hate him, but President DJTs brutal honesty is commendable. Before, many have gone to Kiev, but never explicitly stated they needed minerals. And here comes DJT steamrolling them all out of the field. Honesty and integrity always pays. Now US has to protect it's investment in Ukraine, therefore Ukrainian has nothing to worry about anymore.

Trump is nothing but Putin's Dancing Puppet...

Whether he just admires anti-democratic authoritarians or Putin does have some "kompromat" on him makes little difference - he grovels at Vlad's feet...

The once staunch anti-Soviet/anti-communist Repub Party is now nothing but Putin's useful idiots...

I don't understand how a country that can mostly repel the Russian army on its own for three years cannot dig a hole in the ground on its own. Many countries in the world have mastered the act of digging.

I suspect the reality of whatever deal is made will not be as announced by the public figures involved. As in the US might get "50%" of something, but that something will be very little indeed.

There is no $500 billion in this deal.

Then how many billion is it? 499?

for “hope” of a “future”security guarantee being granted?

The proof is in the pudding. Let's see if the full text of the agreement is released and how binding it is on either party.

The biggest brazen robbery in history..

Woah, exaggeration much? This is Trump talking. The man that built a wall that Mexico paid for. Or didn't, if you believe in reality. Wait and see how much the US gets out of this.

I think something like 15 million people being shipped across the Atlantic over 200 plus years, with one in six of them dieing or being killed on the journey, is a bigger robbery. Or the UK taking India from something like 25% of global GDP to 5%. "Oh but we gave them trains and roads...."

Poland will not be making any land claims and neither will Mr. "No Troops" Trump.

It was Russia that gave Lviv and the far east of what was Poland to Ukraine. Many on the right, including many of the "nationalist" Polish volunteers fighting for Ukraine want "their" land returned. But you won't be reading about this as it is not the narrative being sold. Granted it is unlikely to happen in the near future.

I will be so happy once this deal is completed.

Minerals grabbing ,the worst kind ever in history !

This is yet another way for DJT to squeeze the Kyiv regime.

Firstly, Zelensky showed no indication he would.

Two - the video of Trump was basically him ordering that the signed document be placed on his desk.

Looks like WH is setting up for another porcelain bowl dunking. This is compounded by the full knowledge that Zelensky doesn't actually control the minerals and the extraction, economic feasibility is far from established.

It seems to me Trump is interested a lot in the minerals but not interested in security in Ukraine.

deanzaZZRToday  09:53 am JST

I will let you in on a secret. There is no defense treaty.

 I think China is watching this.and what does the Taiwan defence treaty really say.

That's my point. China has explicitly said it will take Taiwan at some point. The U.S. has said it accepts the one-China policy. The treaty/law is only as good as the tissue paper it is written on. Once peace has returned to Europe, I expect Russia to support China fully. Sadly, that is what dictators do. China played the egalitarian card during the Cultural Revolution, and then they played the economic card to the Chinese people, now, as the economy struggles, other problems occur, and along with demographic problems, there is only one more card to play, and that is the Nationalism card. And that generally doesn't bode well for the rest of the world.

If the U.S. aid to Ukraine for its war against Russia were for rich natural resources such as rare earth in Ukraine, as Trump suggested, this war would become no different from colonial wars in the 17th to the -early 20th centuries

This is the 21st century, and we’re supposed to have left that diabolical era behind, haven't we? Or are we still in that era?

Another contradiction by Ukraine supporters - the US is "not a party to the conflict" but DJT has been declared solely responsible should the former sink recently.

How odd. Not a party but entirely responsible, and it didn't even start on his watch.

There is no $500 billion in this deal.

Then how many billion is it? 499?

Nobody here knows. Not even you, which was my point.

It is very unlikely POTUS will loose in this. Odds are high on him presiding over a ceasefire deal and getting a Nobel Peace prize nomination. All indicators point to this outcome. Signing of the minerals agreement is a step in that direction.

It is easy to agree when you have a gun at your head and trump in your back!

A very colonial way of thinking from trump.

Is the usa great now that they are stealing from a country in ruin and at war?