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Zelenskyy hosts Western leaders in Kyiv as Ukraine marks 2 years since Russia's invasion

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Good to see true allies standing by Ukraine. Let's hope Mike Johnson or dare I say it, Donald Trump, can muster the intestinal fortitude to do the same.

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Lots of spin and propaganda, but the simple fact that the Obama approved overthrow of the last democratically elected government a united peaceful Ukraine had remains a losing proposition. And throwing even more money (and weapons) at a losing proposition that, after a decade, remains a growing drain isn't a guarantee that next year it will become a winning one, indeed, it is almost a guarantee that it won't.

Especially when another long-term project is melting down so spectacularly as the ME one is.

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RichardPearceToday 06:10 am JST

Lots of spin and propaganda, but the simple fact that the Obama approved overthrow of the last democratically elected government a united peaceful Ukraine had remains a losing proposition.

Ukrainians overthrew the last government and the last president currently rules over an apartment in Moscow.

And throwing even more money (and weapons) at a losing proposition that, after a decade, remains a growing drain isn't a guarantee that next year it will become a winning one, indeed, it is almost a guarantee that it won't.

Anything that preserves Ukrainian independence in the face of Russian fascism is a win.

Especially when another long-term project is melting down so spectacularly as the ME one is.

Has nothing to do with Ukraine but does highlight the inconsistency in your views.

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Did Russia shoot down another one of their A-50s? No worries, I am sure they have plenty.

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Solidarity demonstrations with Ukraine were held across Europe, including in London, Berlin and Stockholm.

Support for Ukraine is strong: among US citizens who are Republican, 69% say that they believe support to Ukraine is important for US national interests.

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RichardPearce

Lots of spin and propaganda, but the simple fact that the Obama approved overthrow of the last democratically elected government a united peaceful Ukraine had remains a losing proposition.

Citation needed.

And throwing even more money (and weapons) at a losing proposition that

Luckily, a vast majority of Americans do not agree with that. They support giving aid to Ukraine.

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What a charade, lol..

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Good to see true allies standing by Ukraine. Let's hope Mike Johnson or dare I say it, Donald Trump, can muster the intestinal fortitude to do the same.

Keep dreaming..

On this, Republicans have common sense and brains..

LOL

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No, they're not powerless. Just not motivated very much. If you think they couldn't stop Russia if they really tried, you're dreaming.

These "leaders" are powerless to stop the Russian foot soldier from continuing to march forward

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An Abrams sighting:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1760985282617479250

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ThubanToday 06:47 am JST

President Volodymyr Zelenskyy welcomed Western leaders to Kyiv

These "leaders" are powerless to stop the Russian foot soldier from continuing to march forward.

On the contrary, Russia's military is so poor that even inconsistently delivered shells have kept the fascist contained.

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It's tragic to read of Russian soldiers targeting and killing Ukrainian children. What a travesty.

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Support for Ukraine is strong: among US citizens who are Republican, 69% say that they believe support to Ukraine is important for US national interests.

More like 62% of Republicans see the US as doing too much to support Ukraine.

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zibala

There were no more land grabs with Trump as president, but then Biden in the White House again, Putin knew he could prance into Ukraine.

Keep telling yourself that.

BTW Putin did attack Ukraine while Trump was president, and Trump tried to ignore it. There's courage and leadership for you. Not! Trump caves to Putin. It took Haley to finally give a US voice and condemn the action.

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Italy’s Meloni: If Russia hadn’t invaded Ukraine, Hamas wouldn’t have attacked Israel

“It was inevitable that such a serious violation of international law … would have cascading consequences on other areas of the world,”

https://www.politico.eu/article/italys-meloni-if-russia-hadnt-invaded-ukraine-hamas-wouldnt-have-attacked-israel/

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Well...mr Zelenskyy think about all the lives you could have saved by making a deal with Putin

You can't make a deal with someone who wants you dead. Ukrainians will fight.

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Most object to backing and endless $blackhole with no realistic change in outcome. Especially US voters.

Approx. 10M former Ukrainians legally Russia Federation citizens WILL NEVER be Ukrainian again, Ukraine 10year civil war OVER, they suffered enough documented violations to their human, property & citizenship rights.

Translation? You can't put toothpaste back in tube, we're wasting precious lives, resources, time & destabilizing the world with continued Kiev regime corrupt fantasies.

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The shrill deranged threats of world war three, if forced toe withdraw from the illegal occupation/invasion.

Russia threatens to unleash ‘entire arsenal on London if it loses war in Ukraine’

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/world/russia-ukraine-london-nuclear-weapons-b1139902.html

Time for Europe to wake up, and support Ukraine, it's people with the military means to bring about Putin's disastrous special operation defeat

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Furthermore, obvious US is going thru a serious political re-alignment, Biden's collapsing both in health and politically. Trump will run and benefit from this war continuing, most in US want it stopped.

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Luckily, a vast majority of Americans do not agree with that. They support giving aid to Ukraine.

No vast majority:

Americans’ views on the war there have shifted, with a plurality now saying the U.S. is doing too much to help Ukraine. 

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HopeSpringsEternal

Furthermore, obvious US is going thru a serious political re-alignment, Biden's collapsing both in health and politically.

No evidence of that at all.

Trump will run and benefit from this war continuing,

No he won't; he isn't aligned with popular opinion on Ukraine, so that will likely hurt him.

most in US want it stopped.

Everyone wants it stopped: the open border GOP (Groupies Of Putin) MAGA RINOs want Putin to win.

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zibala

Luckily, a vast majority of Americans do not agree with that. They support giving aid to Ukraine.

No vast majority

A majority of Americans see the current Ukraine conflict as important to U.S. interests (74%) and to them personally (59%).

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/02/16/how-americans-view-the-conflicts-between-russia-and-ukraine-israel-and-hamas-and-china-and-taiwan/sr_24-02-16_global-conflict_1/

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HopeSpringsEternal

Most object to backing and endless $blackhole with no realistic change in outcome. Especially US voters.

No they don't.

Approx. 10M former Ukrainians legally Russia Federation citizens WILL NEVER be Ukrainian again, Ukraine 10year civil war OVER, they suffered enough documented violations to their human, property & citizenship rights.

There are no Ukrainians who are legally Russia Federation citizens.

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Ukrainians have no new troop mobilization underway, Parliament losing confidence by the day, given the continued losses and recent views expressed by the former Top General Z. It's going from bad to worse.

Nobody $backs dead duck going nowhere for long, simply more death & destruction with no change in outcome. Former Ukrainians never going give up their Russian Federation citizenship status, they fought for it!

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Even Liberal Time Magazine admits Ukraine's lost, and they've got lots of professionals in Ukraine since Feb 2022

Ukraine Can’t Win the War

Time Magazine

BY ANATOL LIEVEN FEBRUARY 24, 2024

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Ukraine Can’t Win the War

> Time Magazine

> BY ANATOL LIEVEN FEBRUARY 24, 2024

You have posted the same link numerous times. What's the purpose? Always shouting in bold.

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Olena Petrivna, whoever this person asserts they are, should know that the special military operation was launched because of the sabotaged Minsk Agreements which sought an end to the civil war which raged after the violent coup in 2014.

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JJE

Olena Petrivna, whoever this person asserts they are, should know that the special military operation was launched because of the sabotaged Minsk Agreements which sought an end to the civil war which raged after the violent coup in 2014.

There was no violent coup in 2014, and the civil war was because Putin sent in troops to the Donbas and annexed Crimea in 2014.

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Look at the ominous frowns on their faces in the photo. Trudeau's is particularly marked. They know the game is up and all they can do is lay flowers.

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You do the same, maybe not in bold, but you will post things repeatedly, we all do, nothing wrong with it....technically I guess.

I agree with you. For example, I can't remember if I posted this one already of that A-50 getting shot down.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1761087303986925764

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No vast majority

A majority of Americans see the current Ukraine conflict as important to U.S. interests (74%) and to them personally (59%).

Not a vast majority, and also seeing the conflict as important to US interests is completely different from:

They support giving aid to Ukraine.

The war is important to US weapons manufacturers to begin with.

BTW Putin did attack Ukraine while Trump was president,

But Putin did not invade during Trump's time, nor did he take more land. He attacked the area he took under Obama-Biden.

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Furthermore, obvious US is going thru a serious political re-alignment, Biden's collapsing both in health and politically. 

Absolutely

https://youtu.be/OpNanXb9-zc?si=Tkp9u6H3uN0nSTcc

No, he won't

https://responsiblestatecraft.org/ukraine-peace-talks-poll/

he isn't aligned with popular opinion on Ukraine,

He doesn't need to.

https://www.ft.com/content/6e10d54c-9cee-4361-b85b-0bf57e80f16c

so that will likely hurt him.

Speaking of Biden....

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2024/02/24/the_lasting_damage_of_bidenonmics_150552.html

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Ukraine is losing men too fast and too many. Look at the walls in the photo. The demographics overall for the country are disastrous. The people trying to "help" Ukraine are, somewhat ironically, helping to destroy it. Well, the western policy is "to the last Ukrainian"...

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JJE - you just said the other day that you want Russia to win, so you can keep your sympathy for the dead Russians instead.

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zibala

BTW Putin did attack Ukraine while Trump was president,

But Putin did not invade during Trump's time, nor did he take more land. He attacked the area he took under Obama-Biden.

Which is irrelevant. Obama enacted sanctions on Russia after Crimea was annexed in 2014, Trump's plan is to do nothing.

Trump is weak on Ukraine and Putin in general.

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doesnt care because focused on America is quite different than “weak”.

we have zero obligation to be strong “on Ukraine”. Gave them tons of weapons, 2+ years and 100s of billions of dollars. They didn’t get it done, so we are done.

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Blacklabel

we have zero obligation to be strong “on Ukraine”. Gave them tons of weapons, 2+ years and 100s of billions of dollars. They didn’t get it done, so we are done.

Under no obligation, but it's in the US national interest to do so, according to 69% of Republicans.

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we have zero obligation to be strong “on Ukraine”.

We absolutely do. The US agreed to provide security assistance to Ukraine in exchange for giving up their nuclear weapons. What rightists want to is to break their promises. They don't care about "freedom" or "democracy." To the contrary, they'll do whatever it takes to enable fascism.

2+ years and 100s of billions of dollars. They didn’t get it done, so we are done.

The US has not given hundreds of billions to Ukraine. This is just rightwing propaganda. . https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-have-us-taxpayers-sent-200-billion-ukraine-1796322

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Which is irrelevant. Obama enacted sanctions on Russia after Crimea was annexed in 2014, Trump's plan is to do nothing.

Under Trump, we had sanctions on Russia, and no more Ukraine invasions--sounds STRONG for Trump.

And it's totally relevant Russia invaded and annexed Crimea under Obama-Biden? Let's take a look:

---Russia invaded Ukraine under Biden-Harris.

---Russia neither invaded nor annexed any part of Ukraine under Trump.

---Putin knew how weak Obama and Biden were and took advantage of it. Those are facts.

---Sanctions? Didn't Trump impose sanctions on Russia's gas pipeline?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50875935

And Putin was upset with Trump:

signed into law new sanctions against Russia on Wednesday, a move Moscow said amounted to a full-scale trade war and an end to hopes for better ties with the Trump administration.

https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1AI1VD/

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We absolutely do. The US agreed to provide security assistance to Ukraine in exchange for giving up their nuclear weapons. What rightists want to is to break their promises.

No, we want our government to focus more on domestic issues, we have given the Ukrainians enough money. I’m all for giving hardware to them, but No humanitarian aid over U.S.

They don't care about "freedom" or "democracy."

If that were true then conservatives would be Democrats.

To the contrary, they'll do whatever it takes to enable fascism. 

Says the people that are trying to destroy Biden’s leading Presidential contender by any means necessary.

The US has not given hundreds of billions to Ukraine. This is just rightwing propaganda. . 

46 billion! So far.

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The first Abrams tank has been destroyed on the battlefront. Burnt to a crisp.

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