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Zaporizhzhia power plant

Russia has full control of the plant, and has had control for months.

Russia doesn't need to shell the plant to damage it, they can just turn it off.

In fact, the Russian military has kept the plant operational so Ukrainians can get light and heat.

The propaganda is getting comical, Russia is not attacking it's own forces.

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I guess elementary schools, shopping malls, hospitals, and universities weren't enough to satisfy Putin's blood lust and anger at failing so badly with his Ukraine "special military operation"...

Now he bombs a nuclear power plant...

His list of war crimes is getting longer than a list of his palaces...

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hello healthy natural common sense.

Russian army have seized power plant and have it under full control.This means that russian troppes are inside of plant.physically.

by using very common sense they are not shelling own positions.

someone pls say to Zelenskyy that drugs are not good and we are not completely dumb yet!

btw bad bad Russians still prduing electricity there and supplying it to Ukraine-any thoughts heroi?if they are that bad should switch off electricity from first moment and keep UA in dark...or???

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List of people that you don’t want to be in charge of nuclear power plants

Russians
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Russian shelling had damaged three radiation sensors and hurt a worker at the Zaporizhzhia power plant, in the second hit in consecutive days on Europe's largest nuclear facility.

This clearly shows which mentality and intelligence level the Russians have: completely stupid, insane and full of madness.

What a bunch of mentally sick as...holes.

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cui bono?

any simple reason why russians need to shell own troops and power station under their control and with their army troops inside of it?question is for downvoters of my comment above.

btw we still di not hear reactions of UN about ukrainian shelling of jail with Azov inmates inside killed by HIMARS missiles and also how bout AI report about UA army when they are using civilians as human shields?no follow up?or you believe that people have short memory and will simply just "forget"that???

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What a bunch of cretins the orcs are, demonstrated by this false flag operation and their behaviour around Chernobyl.

By the way the russian atomic energy staff mysteriously and suddenly evacuated the site just before the first attack, can’t imagine why!

As if storing explosives, ammunition and fuel next to an atomic pile wasn’t insane enough!

Eastman, patently obvious why the rashists fired on it, to threaten a nuclear disaster and try and frighten the west in to not supplying the advanced effective weapons that the Ukrainians are using to such good and devastating effect on their shambling mob of child rapists, murderers and torturers that passes its self off as an army.

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Whatever the Russians say they haven’t done…..they’ve done.

Whatever the Russians say they won’t do….. they will do.

They have lied from the first and will lie to the last…. you can take that to the bank.

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Eastman, sorry, the damage evidenced in the pictures released by the russians of the POW camp is not consistent with the impact of HIMARS or shelling, it is consistent with detonation coming from within the building and with the use of thermobaric explosives.

Amnesty International has been roundly denounced across the political spectrum for bowing to russian propaganda.

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Oh come on, Russia has had control of this plant for a long time and now it decides to shell it's own locations.

So let's see, Russia understands the west doesn't believe anything it says but in some dystopian world we are to believe Ukrainian version of Russia twice shelling it's own positions like POW camp and Nuclear power plants. Oh and firing petal/butterfly cluster bombs into its own long controlled areas in Donbas!

Sorry, but Russia is a lot of things but this is getting to be a joke.

Believe what you want but Ukrainian claims are something only a fool believes.

Now I know the name calling and accusations of my being a Russian this or that will now start because why not you have no logical explanation other than to claim Russia is doing it to make Ukraine look bad and no evidence.

The difference between me and most here is I never believed either one of them their are number one and two most corrupt countries in Europe and neither is worth giving any care for.

But the junk Ukraine says or claims that people will believe shows few can actually think, even fewer use logic or facts and think feelings are facts.

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Russia shelling themselves ? What utter garbage. Seems people will believe anything as true as long it is demonizes Russia.

Don't forget more than 14,000 citizens in the Donbass region have been killed by constant shelling over the last 8 years by Ukraine. And all you hear all the time. Russia did this, Russia did that etc.

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Whatever the Russians say they haven’t done…..they’ve done.

Whatever the Russians say they won’t do….. they will do.

The Kremlin shot their shot way too early, with the 2016 election. Now the world knows they're internet trolls, and that they have masses of paid internet workers who are supposed to push the party line, so no one buys their propaganda anymore. If they hadn't exposed themselves in 2016, things would be way worse right now.

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Monty

Today 07:51 am JST

Russian shelling had damaged three radiation sensors and hurt a worker at the Zaporizhzhia power plant, in the second hit in consecutive days on Europe's largest nuclear facility.

> This clearly shows which mentality and intelligence level the Russians have: completely stupid, insane and full of madness.

> What a bunch of mentally sick as...holes

Actually it shows the hole in logic of those believing Ukraine.

The plant is controlled by Russia well inside Russian controlled territory.

Ukraine has complained it hasn't had any information on the safety of the plant, the workers, or how it is being maintained.

The USA has said the same so has the IAEA.

So keep that in mind, Ukraine, USA, EU, IAEA all say they don't know anything about the nuclear plant as Russia has full control.

But Ukraine knows "exactly" what was hit by "Russian" artillery in a zone Ukraine says it has no idea what is going on there just a few days ago.

Can I interest anyone believing this Ukrainian version in some beach property in Northern Canada? I figure if you believe the Ukrainian version you also are going to believe a tropical beach resort in North Canada.

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What am I missing here? Ukraine is using NATO weapons to attack a nuclear power plant, one of the largest in the world, and Russia is to blame?

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I guess elementary schools, shopping malls, hospitals, and universities weren't enough to satisfy Putin's blood lust and anger at failing so badly with his Ukraine "special military operation"...

Did you read the Amnesty International report about Ukranian military basing itself on schools, shoppping centres , hospitals...etc? Perhaps not as many western media sites chose not to report details of it. Or maybe Amnesty is now spreading Kremlon propaganda?

Now he bombs a nuclear power plant..."

Having a bit of a hard time believing Russians would bomb a nuclear plant that they have had under full control for months. Can you explain why they did that?

Russia is wrong for invading but the propagnda BS that comes up as "news" on western mass media sites is off the charts.

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Oh and a side note.

After complaining about the safety of the plant, after the IAEA also raised concerns.

The IAEA asked to inspect the facility.

This did not happen because.

BBC:

Ukraine's state nuclear company said Ukraine had not invited the IAEA - and any visit would legitimise Russia's presence there.

BBC:

Yevgeny Balitsky said officials were ready to show Mr Grossi's agency, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), how Russians were guarding the nuclear facility while Ukrainians were allegedly attacking it.

So Ukraine is so concerned, right?

But less concerned about the Nuclear plants safety than it is about the political optics.

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Maybe they should shutdown the plant for safety while fighting is still ongoing

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Whatever the Russians say they haven’t done…..they’ve done.

Whatever the Russians say they won’t do….. they will do.

They have lied from the first and will lie to the last…. you can take that to the bank.

Communism is a tragedy that corrupts the very soul of the great russian and chinese people.

You have to be out of these 2 countries to meet these people in their pure state. Ethnic Russians in northern Europe, kind, helpful, honest, polite chinese people in Singapore and Taiwan. There is just no comparison. All you have to do is to meet these people born in other normal countries to change your mind about them. Communism is a cancer.

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And after days of controversy, Amnesty International apologised for "distress and anger" caused by a report accusing Ukraine of endangering civilians. That had infuriated Zelenskiy and prompted the head of the rights group's Ukraine office to resign."

Once again the wording of the above shows how news gets twisted, edited and " selectively reported" to suit a particular narrative. The above sentence ( which mysteriously omits the ending of the comment Amnesty made ) makes it sound as if Amnesty apologized for a report that was somehow inaccurate when in fact it stands by it and the Ukraine AI local boss resigned as AI head office would not bow to her demands to drop the report. The full sentence -

Amnesty International says it “deeply regrets the distress and anger” caused, but stands by a report alleging Ukrainian forces of flouting international law.

Oksana Pokalchuk, head of Amnesty’s Ukraine chapter, resigned over the weekend saying the human rights group shot down her opposition to publishing the report.

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Ukraine said on Sunday that renewed Russian shelling had damaged three radiation sensors and hurt a worker at the Zaporizhzhia power plant, in the second hit in consecutive days on Europe's largest nuclear facility. Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy called Saturday night's shelling "Russian nuclear terror" that warranted more international sanctions, this time on Moscow's nuclear sector. Kyiv said Russia hit a power line at the plant on Friday. However, the Russian-installed authority of the area said Ukraine hit the site with a multiple rocket launcher, damaging administrative buildings and an area near a storage facility.

So Russia and Ukraine both accuse each other of shelling this nuclear power facility - who to believe?

Well, let's look at some previous statements...

Feb 20th: "Russian President Vladimir Putin said diplomatic efforts need to intensify to find a resolution to the Ukraine crisis, a signal Moscow may be ready to discuss ways to walk back the threat of war in Europe."

Feb 21st: Russian Ambassador to the United States Anatoly Antonov denied Sunday that the Kremlin is preparing for an invasion of neighboring Ukraine, despite a build-up of roughly 150,000 Russian forces and U.S. intelligence that Russian commanders have received orders to proceed. "There is no invasion, and there [are] no such plans," Antonov said in an interview with "Face the Nation."

Mar 10th: "As for your question about whether we plan to invade other countries, we have no plans to invade other countries", said Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov.

Pretty easy to see who to believe...

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Russia shelling it's own facilities, I don't think so, although the silly propaganda is quite comical.

-3 ( +11 / -14 )

So Russia and Ukraine both accuse each other of shelling this nuclear power facility - who to believe?

Anyone, who ever trust or believes anything what comes out of Russia's mouth, will face a horrible awakening some day.

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You have to be out of these 2 countries to meet these people in their pure state. Ethnic Russians in northern Europe, kind, helpful, honest, polite chinese people in Singapore and Taiwan. There is just no comparison. All you have to do is to meet these people born in other normal countries to change your mind about them. Communism is a cancer."

Dont disagree completely but there are also many "kind , helpful, honest, polite" people who were born, grew up, spent most of their lives under communism and later immigrated to other countries. Living under such a regime does not automatically make one un- kind, helpful etc. But I do get the point you are making.

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4 days ago

"The IAEA's director-general said he was trying to put together a mission as soon as possible to visit the plant but this required the approval of both the Ukrainian and Russian sides, as well as UN authorisation, given the risks involved in visiting the war zone."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62412429

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Andy

Russia shelling it's own facilities, I don't think so, although the silly propaganda is quite comical.

The nuclear plant belongs to Ukraine, not Russia.

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Russia is the aggressor and needs to leave.

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Dont disagree completely but there are also many "kind , helpful, honest, polite" people who were born, grew up, spent most of their lives under communism and later immigrated to other countries. Living under such a regime does not automatically make one un- kind, helpful etc. But I do get the point you are making.

Definitely, these people are nothing but victims of this inhumane terror that looms over their entire lives, I've been to communist Korea, Russia and China and the reality is thats everyone for himself. You have to trick your countrymen, your community, your own family members to stay alive. Defector Yeonmi Park sheds let on what really goes on. Again, you have to be corrupt and apathetic to survive. Singapore is 70% chinese and its one of the cleanest and safest places on earth.

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sorry, the damage evidenced in the pictures released by the russians of the POW camp is not consistent with the impact of HIMARS or shelling, it is consistent with detonation coming from within the building and with the use of thermobaric explosives.

Is that what our unbiased MSM said...must be true then.

Amnesty International has been roundly denounced across the political spectrum for bowing to russian propaganda.

No , not roundly across the political spectrum - just by the usual pro neocon suspects as it is damaging to the narrative being pushed. Amnesty is now bowing to and spreading Russian propaganda? ( just because it reported some "inconvenient truth facts that dent the always bad Russians / angel Ukranians narrative?....can,t make this stuff up ( or apparently can now) .. Whats happening on the ground in Ukraine seems to have many shades of grey, its not just black and white ( like all conflicts ).

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Monty

Today 09:29 am JST

So Russia and Ukraine both accuse each other of shelling this nuclear power facility - who to believe?

> Anyone, who ever trust or believes anything what comes out of Russia's mouth, will face a horrible awakening some day.

OK I agree don't believe Russia.

But

Anyone, who ever trust or believes anything what comes out of Ukraine's/USA mouth, will face a horrible awakening some day also.

Ukraine the second most corrupt government in Europe got even more corrupt on the world corruption index after 2014 and is presently between the Philippines and Sierra Leone in corruption.

Ukraine needs Russia because it Russia is more corrupt.

What we have are 2 diseased rats fighting over a piece of cheese and instead of learning from history and keep a safe distance in order not to get the disease, Europe USA, Canada Australia NZ UK, etc.. are going to get sick.

Interesting how the old colonial ruled countries decided to stay out, seems South Asia (India, Pakistan, etc. ) Africa, South and Central America, etc... Are not interested in another European vendetta war and world war.

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wallace

Today 09:34 am JST

4 days ago

> "The IAEA's director-general said he was trying to put together a mission as soon as possible to visit the plant but this required the approval of both the Ukrainian and Russian sides, as well as UN authorisation, given the risks involved in visiting the war zone."

> https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62412429

You forgot to point out Russia said Ok Ukraine is refusing permission, it is in the article you linked.

So it seems Ukraine is more concerned over the sovereignty issue than safety.

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Yes because Ukraine, fighting a defensive war would shell it's own nuc plant.

OR.....

The Russians, who have a documented history of bombing, digging around and stealing from Chernobyl and who have shown perfect willingness to bomb anything as long at it seems to serve their short term ends, did it.

Gee. That is a tough one.

I WANT to say that I am flabbergasted at the number of rubes willing to swallow the Kremlin line, but that would be a misstatement.

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Bronco....

The propaganda is getting comical, Russia is not attacking it's own forces.

In a nutshell!

Russia has FULL control of the nuclear plant and surrounding area. It has held this territory for months.

If any missiles or shells landed anywhere near the facility, and that is a big if, they were fired by Ukrainian nationalist forces.

However, in reality, this is most likely the latest in a long line of Kiev propaganda stories parroted by western media.

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Axel

What am I missing here?

The truth.

Ukraine is using NATO weapons to attack a nuclear power plant, one of the largest in the world,

Incorrect.

and Russia is to blame?

Correct.

Andy

Russia shelling it's own facilities, I don't think so, although the silly propaganda is quite comical.

Ownership is not the point. Fallout from a nuclear breach is. Russia have already shown themselves to be reckless; targeting civilian buildings and the like.

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Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy called Saturday night's shelling "Russian nuclear terror" that warranted more international sanctions, this time on Moscow's nuclear sector. Kyiv said Russia hit a power line at the plant on Friday.

What would be the Russian's probable motivation/plan for shelling the nuclear plant under their control? I haven't seen one mentioned yet.

Zelensky clearly has one

-5 ( +4 / -9 )

It is interesting to look for countries that support sanctions.

Unlike other things, no one seems to want to publish a complete list of countries supporting sanctions.

I you have a full list please link it.

The best I could find was this.

https://graphics.reuters.com/UKRAINE-CRISIS/SANCTIONS/byvrjenzmve/

Which once you read it is very sad.

Other than USA, Canada Australia NZ and western Europe. There are very few other countries, not even Israel, Turkey supposedly USA friends.

It has to fill up its graphic with a load of Actions by companies and organisations.

To make it look like the list is bigger than reality.

This is the type of western news propaganda that is why we can't even trust anything either side says.

It has always been a given Russian news was propaganda, but now we know our own news has reached the same level.

Right here in this article 99% is slanted to promote Ukraine's claim despite it being so corrupt that the Philippines is considered more trustworthy.

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Ian...

Maybe they should shutdown the plant for safety while fighting is still ongoing

They could do that but then the Russians would be accused of a war crime by cutting power to civilians.

Russia now controls more than 65% of power generation in Ukraine. They could make life very miserable with just a few flicks of switches. (OK maybe more miserable)

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Yes because Ukraine, fighting a defensive war would shell it's own nuc plant."

Yes, because Russians who have had control of the plant for months would shell it and their soldiers controlling it.

I WANT to say that I am flabbergasted at the number of rubes willing to swallow the Kremlin line, but that would be a misstatement."

You never fail to call others who disagree with you all sorts of condescending names and imply own superior intellect yet all you do is parrot the MSM narratives. How about a bigger soapbox?

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Nemo

Today 10:11 am JST

Yes because Ukraine, fighting a defensive war would shell it's own nuc plant.

Why wouldn't it?

It says one thing does another.

BBC pointed out clearly that it is Ukraine that refuses to let the IAEA inspect the facility.

Russia has agreed, but the IAEA says it needs both countries to agree and BBC says Ukraine has refused because it doesn't want to give the impression of Russian sovereignty over the nuclear facility.

Think about that now!

Ukraine for months complains about the safety of those working there, Ukraine complains about operational safety, it has no control or knowledge of what is going on.

But when the IAEA asks Ukraine to give permission to inspect, Ukraine refuses.

The nice Western BBC in the linked article in the comment section points this out clearly.

So would Ukraine bomb the plant despite safety issues, clearly Ukraine has no safety concerns refusing to permit IAEA inspection.

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I have a feeling all these Russian Generals are choosing to get fired....rather than chance a HIMARS missile slamming down on their command center....

The poor performance of Russia’s armed forces during its invasion of Ukraine appears to have led to a shakeup in command, the British Defense Ministry said Sunday. Gen. Aleksandr Vladimirovich Dvornikov, who had been charged with overall command of the operation in Ukraine, was removed from his post last week, the ministry said. General-Colonel Aleksandr Zhuravlev, who had commanded Russia's Western Military District since 2018, was absent from Russia’s Navy Day in St Petersburg a week ago and has likely been replaced, the ministry said in its assessment of the war. Another general was relieved of command of Southern Grouping Forces, the ministry said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/3-russian-generals-sacked-military-154433946.html

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I don't know who is shelling the power plant. What is clear though is that Russia wants Ukraine to attack it. It's why they are firing on nearby towns from the inside the power plant...

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I think the majority of countries whether they support sanctions or not see Russia as the invader and aggressor. Many have sent weapons to Ukraine.

If Russia leaves the war stops.

Antiquesaving

You forgot to point out Russia said Ok Ukraine is refusing permission, it is in the article you linked.

It did not say that, it said Ukraine has not invited IAEA.

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ian

What would be the Russian's probable motivation/plan for shelling the nuclear plant under their control? I haven't seen one mentioned yet. 

Seems pretty obvious to me. By shelling around the nuclear power plant, Russian officials are framing Ukraine as irresponsibly using Western-provided weapons and risking nuclear disaster to dissuade Western and other allied states from providing additional military support to Ukraine’s looming southern counteroffensive.

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It did not say that, it said Ukraine has not invited IAEA.

Actually it said:

Ukraine's state nuclear company said Ukraine had not invited the IAEA - and any visit would legitimise Russia's presence there

Which in diplomatic terms means we are not given permission.

Let's be realistic here!

IAEA is asking, Ukraine is saying "we didn't invite you". Does anyone think that isn't saying no?

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Because of the invasion of Ukraine by a nuclear power Russia most countries including Japan are now looking at the strength of their own defenses. Putin claimed it was partly to stop NATO but now two new countries Sweden and Finland will join NATO. Finland has closed its borders with Russia.

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Antiquesaving

Ukraine's state nuclear company said Ukraine had not invited the IAEA - and any visit would legitimise Russia's presence there

Which in diplomatic terms means we are not given permission.

That is your opinion from a western media source which you have stated numerous times can not be trusted.

Let's be realistic here!

It is unlikely for the time being Ukraine, the UN, IAEA, and Russia can reach an agreement about a visit to the nuclear plant, the largest in Europe.

Russia leaves the war stops.

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Seems pretty obvious to me. By shelling around the nuclear power plant, Russian officials are framing Ukraine as irresponsibly using Western-provided weapons and risking nuclear disaster to dissuade Western and other allied states from providing additional military support to Ukraine’s looming southern counteroffensive.

That would be logical if

1-) Russia cared about public opinion ( it invaded Ukraine it obviously does care about what anyone thinks.

2-) If Russia thought the western media would accept it's version of events. Which we have seen the western news and governments aren't.

So there is no logical reason for Russia to do so.

But Ukraine has claimed 4 times now Russia is firing on itself and western media and people here have swallowed it without questioning.

Russia fired petal/butterfly cluster bombs into its own cities, Russia bombed it's own POW camp, Russia twice bomb this nuclear power plant.

The first time the plant was hit Ukraine said it was Russia, Russia said it was Ukraine and western media and governments believed Ukraine,

So now we are to believe Russia again fired on itself knowing the first 3 times no western news or government believed it was Ukraine.

Yeah sure.

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Seems pretty obvious to me. By shelling around the nuclear power plant, Russian officials are framing Ukraine as irresponsibly using Western-provided weapons and risking nuclear disaster to dissuade Western and other allied states from providing additional military support to Ukraine’s looming southern counteroffensive.

Did the Russians mention anything to hint at this obvious plan?

The article only mentions zelensky railing for nuclear sanctions, I was actually curious why he has an immediate and specific sanction in mind

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It is unlikely for the time being Ukraine, the UN, IAEA, and Russia can reach an agreement about a visit to the nuclear plant, the largest in Europe.

Why is it unlikely, the article mentioned the urgency and necessity of inspecting the plant asap

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So you want to believe Ukrainian claims.

Ok but remember.

Ukraine claims to have killed over 40,000 Russians but the USA, UK and EU say 15,000 tops.

Ukraine claimed it completed it mission in Azovstal and didn't surender, but then demanded to know what was the fate of the soldiers that "didn't surender" POWs.

Ukraine, we are not retreating, just repositioning our troops.

Ukraine we are pushing the Russians back, next day Russia has full control of the area.

The list goes on.

You cannot believe anything either of these two say.

But hey if you prefer your feelings over facts, then nothing not even basic logic will change that.

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Antiquesaving

Seems pretty obvious to me. By shelling around the nuclear power plant, Russian officials are framing Ukraine as irresponsibly using Western-provided weapons and risking nuclear disaster to dissuade Western and other allied states from providing additional military support to Ukraine’s looming southern counteroffensive.

That would be logical if

1-) Russia cared about public opinion ( it invaded Ukraine it obviously does care about what anyone thinks.

They care about Western resolve though. That's what this is about.

2-) If Russia thought the western media would accept it's version of events. Which we have seen the western news and governments aren't.

Plenty of posters on here seem to believe the Russian version.

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And after days of controversy, Amnesty International apologised for "distress and anger" caused by a report accusing Ukraine of endangering civilians. That had infuriated Zelenskiy and prompted the head of the rights group's Ukraine office to resign.

Amnesty international apologizing for a report accusing Ukraine of endangering civilians?

Why?

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Mr KiplingToday 

They could do that but then the Russians would be accused of a war crime by cutting power to civilians.

Just one more to the 26,000(?) mentioned above.

Anyway if the attack continues maybe that would become a moot point

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ian

Today 10:57 am JST

It is unlikely for the time being Ukraine, the UN, IAEA, and Russia can reach an agreement about a visit to the nuclear plant, the largest in Europe.

> Why is it unlikely, the article mentioned the urgency and necessity of inspecting the plant asap

Because:

Russia leaves the war stops

From wallace

Today 10:46 am JST

In a nutshell, Ukraine is refusing to Let it happen,

The above is the excuse given in everything.

Reality isn't important, the Ukrainians could bomb the place releasing A nuclear disaster and people here, the western News the Ukrainian government would still say it was Russia because it didn't just leave.

That is the fall back thing to say.

Grain cannot be shipped because Ukraine mines the port, Russia leaves the mines can be removed, Ukraine refuses to let IAEA inspect the nuclear power plant, Russia can leave it will be no more problem.

The list goes on.

Reality isn't in the air. Russia isn't leaving not now not anytime soon, so pride and stubbornness Ukraine would rather a nuclear disater than give even the smallest impression Russia controls the plant.

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In a nutshell, Ukraine is refusing to Let it happen,

The above is the excuse given in everything

Zelensky and Ukraine say that?

Or just posters here?

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Antiquesaving

Russia is the invader and aggressor, we can both agree on that. If Russia leaves the war stops. The invader must leave.

I have not read any article saying Russia will give permission to the IAEA to enter the nuclear plant.

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Plenty of posters on here seem to believe the Russian version.

If I hear the sound of hooves in Japan, do I think Zebra or Horse?

Ukraine wants use to believe it is a unicorn we are hearing.

In live I have learned that more often than not the simplest answer is the right one.

Who has control of the facility?

Russia!

Who wants it back?

Ukraine.

So who would be firing at the troops near the facility?

The unicorn!

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wallace

Today 11:19 am JST

Antiquesaving

> Russia is the invader and aggressor, we can both agree on that. If Russia leaves the war stops. The invader must leave.

Great now we know they won't so now what!

It is like the guy that built his home in a flood plain saying the river goes away the flooding will stop.

Russia isn't going to leave, so stop the fantasy and now figure out how to avoid a nuclear disaster.

Repeating something not going to happen any time soon doesn't solve the immediate problem.

I have not read any article saying Russia will give permission to the IAEA to enter the nuclear plant.

Did you read the article you yourself linked?

Yevgeny Balitsky said officials were ready to show Mr Grossi's agency, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), how Russians were guarding the nuclear facility while Ukrainians were allegedly attacking it.

The above sure sounds like a yes to 5he IAEA

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ian

Today 11:15 am JST

In a nutshell, Ukraine is refusing to Let it happen,

> The above is the excuse given in everything

> Zelensky and Ukraine say that?

> Or just posters here?

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-62412429.amp

Yevgeny Balitsky said officials were ready to show Mr Grossi's agency, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA), how Russians were guarding the nuclear facility while Ukrainians were allegedly attacking it.

The IAEA's director-general said he was trying to put together a mission as soon as possible to visit the plant but this required the approval of both the Ukrainian and Russian sides, as well as UN authorisation, given the risks involved in visiting the war zone.

In June, Ukraine's state nuclear company said Ukraine had not invited the IAEA - and any visit would legitimise Russia's presence there.

BBC

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Invaders should not be supported.

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If there is a nuclear accident at the plant it will be because of the Russian invaders. My grandfather's country was invaded by the Soviets and it remained under its control until 1991. My grandfather was forced to serve in the Soviet Navy. Eventually, on his third attempt, he escaped and reached the UK.

It was the Soviets who build the poorly constructed Chornobyl nuclear plant. The nuclear disaster happened under them. They can not be trusted.

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wallace

Today 11:39 am JST

So your feelings are going to protect use and those in Europe from any radioactive fallout if things go wrong?

Because your position is a simple one but a fantasy "Russia leaves " .

We call that cutting off one's nose to spite one's face.

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Antiquesaving

it is not just about the nuclear plant. It is about Russia being an aggressor and invader and in history all invaders eventually leave.

I do not have to worry about nuclear fallout nor do you since we live in Japan. Chornobyl never reached here but Fukushima did.

The British invaded India and killed many millions. The US invaded Afghanistan and killed hundreds of thousands. The British controlled Ireland for more than 100 years and many died.

Invaders and empires are never acceptable.

You support Russia.

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Ukraine's state-run nuclear power operator, Energoatom, accused Russian forces of hitting the Zaporizhzhia plant and using the complex as a staging ground for striking nearby targets, including many in the occupied city of Enerhodar and the nearby Ukrainian-controlled city of Nikopol.

The people who have for weeks kept the nuclear power plants in Ukraine safe—despite the presence of Russian troops and off-site interruptions to incoming power supplies, as happened at Chornobyl, and despite the danger posed by the military conflict in the country—deserve our solidarity, our support, and our action.

What happens if the Ukraine nuclear power plant explodes?

In the worst-case scenario, the reactor containment would be destroyed by explosions and the cooling system would fail, the radioactivity of both the reactor and the fuel pool could then freely escape into the atmosphere.

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wallace

Today 11:57 am JST

Antiquesaving

> it is not just about the nuclear plant. It is about Russia being an aggressor and invader and in history all invaders eventually leave

Unless the article above is a figment of my imagination, it is precisely about a nuclear power plant and possibly nuclear disaster.

Let me remind you of the headline

Ukraine power plant shelled again; Zelenskiy rails at Russian 'nuclear terror'

Your attempt at changing the subject isn't working.

I do not have to worry about nuclear fallout nor do you since we live in Japan. Chornobyl never reached here but Fukushima did.

So all your "caring" about Ukraine is for show because you have a personal family vendetta towards Russia.

So you don't care if millions get radiation poisoning as long as Russia gets the blame and you are safe in Japan.

Thank you for the clarification.

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You support Russia.

Ah that one again.

Because I don't support Ukraine and I post facts not feelings the accusations of being a Russian supporter.

What part of I don't like or trust either of them doesn't seem to register in your brain?

They are both corrupt, lying, nasty racist, Nationalistic rats.

Neither is worth supporting, the difference is everyone agrees on Russia but you and others refuse to see Ukraine is just another side of the same coin.

Trusting Ukraine is the same as trusting Russia in both cases you will regret it.

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Russian reports lack all credibility. Russia should not be in Ukraine let alone bombing nuclear reactors. If there is one believable thing it is never ever believe Russian invaders. They lie, cheat and kill to get what they are after. Invaders rape, pillage and murder as has been evidenced by Russian troops and the mercenaries they hire.

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Latest news is Russia is advancing again taking more territory.

Over the past few weeks Russia has advanced and taken territory in Donbass while Ukraine has advanced and taken territory in Kherson.

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