Ukraine President Zelenskyy says China must not help Russia

Reminds me of the “rehabilitation” scene in the A Clockwork Orange flick.

yeah, yeah, we know FB. If you found yourself in Zelenskyy's shoes, you would surrender immediately to the Russians.

yeah, yeah, we know FB. If you found yourself in Zelenskyy's shoes, you would surrender immediately to the Russians.

Totally agree. Besides Sputnik/RT tells me the Russian army are the good guys, and are totally making Ukraine freer and less corrupt.

“As for now, China is balancing and indeed has neutrality and, I will be honest, this neutrality is better than China joining Russia,” Zelenskyy said through an interpreter from Ukraine.

Zelenskyy is dreaming if he believes this ^.

China and Russia is in lockstep partnership with no limits. Together they represents the twin towers of energy and manufacturing power houses. All China need is tech (chip making), and Russia appears willing to play supporting role in this mission.

Ukraine is just a small step.

Prior to Russia's invasion, Ukraine's biggest trading partner was China. China weighed the value of supporting Russia's invasion in light of their planned invasion of Taiwan, against the benefits of trade with Ukraine. China's "neutrality" is typcal of the CCP regime, supporting Russia and opposing the US and Allies, while protecting it's own large butt.

And people wonder why the population of what used to be eastern Ukraine are so adamant that they will never be ruled by him or someone like him.

He's suffering from Saddam Hussein syndrome, and might be destined for the same fate (murdered by the American government before he could testify that not only did the US government know that his forces committed the atrocities that the US insisted Iran did when they blamed Iran, specific Americans knew about the atrocities before they happened and did nothing to stop them)

as i said. Russia's enemy is not Ukraine. it is always US wanting the upperhand on the "Powerhouse Room" thus provoking Russia and China making them to less progress or ruining their names on public to see. we all know the are no good countries. this era is all about US, Russia and China playing with chess. and all of us are only pawns to play with.

Any screams or outcry of Ukraine and Taiwan will not do any changes. Russia only sees how US will make a move. China only sees how US will make a move. US only sees how Russia and China reacts on their moves.

And people wonder why the population of what used to be eastern Ukraine are so adamant that they will never be ruled by him or someone like him.

blatantly false. Pure Russian propaganda.

eastern Ukraine was a peaceful area until Putin sent in the antagonists to provoke unrest in 2014.

Thanks to US politicians visit to Taiwan, China might side with Russia (against US interests) just to prove a point. Until they apologize, or course—which the US never would.

The US say Zelensky can endure much punishment as he want,until he decides to negotiate,the US do have an endgame,neither do Putin or Zelensky

Eerie photo, some anti-utopia indoctrination type of shot.

It’s sad that Russia and China aren’t more interested in solving global problems instead of creating new ones.

China doesn’t give a damn about Ukraine, and it wants to do the same thing to Taiwan.

The US say Zelensky can endure much punishment as he want,until he decides to negotiate,the US do have an endgame,neither do Putin or Zelensky

Oh yeah, Zelensky can endure all the Vogue photo shoots and Zoom calls, it's the Ukrainian people who are forced to endure the punishments, all just to further Biden's agenda.

@yrrl

zelensky’s end game is a total withdrawal of Russian troops & a return of all its land.

Putins end game will be either a bullet or a nice cup of ‘tea’

What is this talkative man up to? Seeking China's help after giving up on US & the west?

Beijing would least be interested in getting involved, let alone when China-US relationship is at its lowest valley now..

it's the Ukrainian people who are forced to endure the punishments, all just to further Biden's agenda.

what a load of rubbish !

Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom. They know they will endure severe hardship & probably even death if Putin is not defeated.

Russia has killed millions of Ukrainians before, & Putin has no qualms about killing millions more

Demanding full independence and free decisions or intentions of NATO or EU memberships , massive weapons and money support etc for the own country Ukraine is very easy, but it seems to be very difficult to grant the same for the other sided block, to understand that also countries like China then make own independent and free decisions in their interests, whatever contradicting, very good or really bad and dangerous those might turn out to be. He’d better only care for his area and neighborhoods, that’s already difficult enough, he’s not of enough size or in the position to open a new political conflict or front with far away and so far more or less almost neutral China.

This guy sure demands a lot.

He has plenty of time to pose for Vogue magazine covers, speak at award shows, welcome celebrity and political visitors. and now push for gay marriage in the middle of war time? How bad is it really for HIM?

He has plenty of time to pose for Vogue magazine covers, speak at award shows, welcome celebrity and political visitors. and now push for gay marriage in the middle of war time? How bad is it really for HIM?

at least he isn’t out playing golf every 2nd day like some leaders were

I’m pretty sure if this site wanted leftists talking about trump and elections on every article…they would have posted an article about yesterday’s huge wins by all the Trump endorsed candidates.

but alas they didn’t. So you need to talk about Zelensky here. Is anything I posted about him inaccurate?

I’m pretty sure if this site wanted leftists talking about trump and elections on every article…they would have posted an article about yesterday’s huge wins by all the Trump endorsed candidates.

Off topic.

And people wonder why the population of what used to be eastern Ukraine are so adamant that they will never be ruled by him or someone like him.

But are they? Are they really? Or is it just what you see on RT?

And IF they are (and I am not granting that assumption) so eager to be Russian, then move! The land they are inhabiting? That belongs to Ukraine. It's part of Ukraine. They don't get to claim it for Russia because they have a cultural affinity for Russia.

I grew up with a lot of Polish Catholics. They had a strong Cultural Identity for Poland and yet none of them ever advocated that Poland ever annex their land because it was Kansas. It belongs to the United States. (Granted, not contiguous and a bit far from Poland, but the analogy holds).

So hmmmm. The Nazis (this is a sentence, the very construction of which makes me giggle but I will go with it) Elected a Jew with 75% of the vote to oppress the Russian speaking Ukrainians living on land that was recognized BY RUSSIA to be Ukraine and therefore Russia must invade and annex it.

Yeah, go with that to the international court. I am sure that will be a winning argument.

Thanks to US politicians visit to Taiwan, China might side with Russia (against US interests) just to prove a point. Until they apologize, or course—which the US never would.

Why should anyone apologize? It's a freeworld, anyone can travel anywhere as long as no law is broken.

If you prefer to be dicated to, then I forbid you from going to outside yourhouse until you apologize to the forum. How's that to your liking?

Well, if there was any hope for china dropping the supports to Russia, it has been tossed out of the window after Pepsi's visit to Taiwan. Which in a broader term has pretty much sealed the fate of Ukraine, now that Russia has unlimited amount of supplies of everything

Pelosi lol, I hate the auto correct

now that Russia has unlimited amount of supplies of everything

Kind of lacking in tanks that don't incinerate their crews, trained personnel, quality fighter aircraft or the pilots to fly them.

But to some extent your point is taken although I have my doubts about the quality or quantity of the support.

Nemo.....

Kind of lacking in tanks that don't incinerate their crews, trained personnel, quality fighter aircraft or the pilots to fly them.

But to some extent your point is taken although I have my doubts about the quality or quantity of the support.

Yet looking at the map of what used to be Ukraine, the Russians seem to be constantly moving to take and hold the parts it will eventually annex. Of course only until those "game changer" weapons arrive. LOL...

Yet looking at the map of what used to be Ukraine, the Russians seem to be constantly moving to take and hold the parts it will eventually annex. Of course only until those "game changer" weapons arrive. LOL...

This war, er.... "Special Military Operation" isn't over yet, LOL.

The Russians are running out of tanks that don't spontaneously combust, LOL

They used up their Artillary to the point that they have the "Banana Peel effect" going, LOL (unless one is a crew of the barrel then it's really more of a "SBD" Scream Bleed Die type thing.)

The "Mighty" red army is now looking to enlist convicts, to fill out their ranks, LOL

Their Officer Corpse (literally) is making coffin producers in Mother Russia RICH, LOL

No doubt about it, Ukraine has taken a hit. But Vlad and his ultra-modern army has shot its wad for no real strategic gain. The combat capacity is nearly spent. Ukraine's will to fight is not impinged. And yes, new weapons are coming on line, LOL

Kind of foolish to call the fight before the fight is through, LOL.

Hmmm....kinda concerning, no?

New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman wrote Monday that there is a "deep mistrust" between President Biden and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelenskyy and that the White House is very concerned about the country's leadership. 

"The Ukraine war is not over. And privately, U.S. officials are a lot more concerned about Ukraine’s leadership than they are letting on. There is deep mistrust between the White House and Ukraine President Volodymyr [Zelenskyy] — considerably more than has been reported," Friedman wrote. 

Friedman, in May, called Ukraine "marbled by corruption" and added "my sense is that the Biden team is walking much more of a tightrope with Zelenskyy than it would appear to the eye — wanting to do everything possible to make sure he wins this war but doing so in a way that still keeps some distance between us and Ukraine’s leadership."

@tooheysnew

blatantly false. Pure Russian propaganda. eastern Ukraine was a peaceful area until Putin sent in the antagonists to provoke unrest in 2014

Blatantly false. Pure Ukrainian propaganda. Donbass was a peaceful area until coup d'etat plotters sent in the army to make the region "pure Ukrainian" in 2014.

Ukrainian people are fighting for their freedom

Those dozens of thousands of Ukrainians who fight alongside the Russian army against the regime, they are fighting for their freedom against the oppression. The regime fights fot the chimera of "Ukrainian reich".

@Nemo

The Russians are running out of tanks that don't spontaneously combust, LOL

I keep hearing these stories ("Russians are out of personnel / tanks / missiles") from March, LOL. I hear the stories "Russian economy in tatters, they are out of money" since 2014, LOL. You listen to Zelensky too much.

Ukraine President Zelenskyy says

This clown should stop lecturing the world on what they should do and instead negotiate with the Russian government to stop the destruction of his country by this US-Nato proxy war.

In fairness though, he tried, but was stopped by Boris Johnson who immediately called him and demanded to stop the Ankara negotiations and instead resume the senseless fighting.

I expect (and hope) that the sensible forces in the Ukraine remove him and replace him with someone who is loyal to his country.

Yeah if you look at it objectively the only person benefitting from this war is Zelensky.

Lots of good publicity, liberal hero status and lots of untraceable weapons and money coming to him directly.

The people of Ukraine are definitely NOT benefitting at all.

This guy sure demands a lot.

no more than what Churchill demanded when fighting the Nazis.

Vlad and his ultra-modern army has shot its wad for no real strategic gain

yes, but the anti-west, Putin fanboys will never admit this, not until Putin has bitten a bullet

The people of Ukraine are definitely NOT benefitting at all.

And yet their will to fight remains curiously undeterred. Funny, that.

Maybe you should go there and explain to them the errors of their ways. Let's see how that goes?

This clown should stop lecturing the world on what they should do and instead negotiate with the Russian government to stop the destruction of his country by this US-Nato proxy war.

the only clown here is the one who believes you can negotiate with Putin. Or the clown who honestly believes Putin will honour any agreement ?

The people of Ukraine are definitely NOT benefitting at all

well the innocent women & children of Ukraine, who have been raped & murdered by the Russian troops certainly are NOT benefiting

"See, it's not Putin's fault that your maternity hospitals, schools and apartment blocks got bombed with precision weapons. It's the fault of the Jew that the Nazis that made you vote for. He is responsible. See, Vladimir was just "liberating" areas of your country. I mean, can't you see how happy everyone is? Just look at them! No, not the dead ones lying in the street, the live ones that we put on camera! THEY look happy, don't they?

So Don't blame the Russians for blowing up your country. THEY HAD to invade to stop the NAZIS from allowing NATO to attack Russia (and if you believe John-san ) 'legalise SAG sexual abnormal genders Marriages'!. No, I don't know what that means either but aren't you glad that Vlad saved you from that horrible horrible fate? I mean now all you have to worry about is stepping on some of our highly volatile cluster munitions."

You know what? Now that I have heard it. I take it all back. You ARE right.

Blacklabel

Yeah if you look at it objectively the only person benefitting from this war is Zelensky.

Nope. There is also the likes of Lockheed, Raytheon, and their shareholders (many of them in the US government). And of course the current government itself, benefiting from foreign wars to distract from domestic problems.

tooheys

the only clown here is the one who believes you can negotiate with Putin. Or the clown who honestly believes Putin will honour any agreement ?

Can you remind us who has been violating the Minsk agreements for 7 years? We are all ears.

And of course the current government itself, benefiting from foreign wars to distract from domestic problems.

Ah yes, the "wag the dog" theory. How could I have been so mistaken. The UNITED STATES planned and orchestrated this war (starting from the Russian build up last November no less!) for the explicit purpose of distracting from an election a year away.

It all makes perfect sense now.....

There is also the likes of Lockheed, Raytheon, and their shareholders (many of them in the US government)

I notice that nobody ever makes this argument with respect to Russian arms producers. This seems to be a curiously Western phenomenon if some amongst us are to be believed.

One would think given the attrition of Soviet, er... "Russian" armor, fighter jets, trucks, you name it, that this would be rather a good opportunity for the Russian weapons industry to make some money (Western of course.)

Lord knows that the overseas market for their Jack-in-the-box tanks, missile ships that lack damage control and fighter jets that cannot seem to suppress a 2nd rate air defense system is dying faster than a forward-deployed Russian General officer!

At least their "Precision Weapons Systems" work about 60% of the time, eh?

Can you remind us who has been violating the Minsk agreements for 7 years? We are all ears.

That is a matter of debate and one has to believe Vlad which nobody that is still breathing does for long.

But if you are asking "Who violated the Budapest Memorandum where Ukraine gave up what was then the world's 3rd largest nuclear arsenal for iron-clad security guarantees?" That would be the Russians.

Bet Ukraine won't make that mistake again....

I keep hearing these stories ("Russians are out of personnel / tanks / missiles") from March, LOL. I hear the stories "Russian economy in tatters, they are out of money" since 2014, LOL.

That's funny because I keep seeing videos of exploding Russian Tanks and watching interviews with Russians who have quit the country, LOL.

Nemo:

It's not listening to Zelensky, it's listening to the Military Experts in the West (you know, the ones still breathing!) who are paid to know these things.

You mean military experts like Scott Ritter and Dough MacGregor that are consistently ignored by Western media because they deviate from the party narrative, or you mean the same talking heads that appear regularly?

Anyway, we will see one way or another, but one thing I am confident to predict, Putie is not going to reach his strategic goals.

OK, can you clarify what Putins "strategic goals" are in your mind? As far as I can see they are a neutral Ukraine and a liberation of the Dombass region with its native Russian population. Neither of which sound unreasonable to me. Do you see either of that reversed? Please share your crystal ball.

You mean military experts like Scott Ritter and Dough MacGregor that are consistently ignored by Western media because they deviate from the party narrative,

Um, no. For one thing unless you are referring to Faux "news", we don't have State tv in America. So there is that.

I am talking about the former Supreme Commanders of NATO, etc. You know, the guys that trained their entire life to fight and beat the Russians.

@Nemo

See, it's not Putin's fault that your maternity hospitals, schools and apartment blocks got bombed with precision weapons

https://en.news-front.info/2022/08/04/amnesty-international-recorded-facts-of-violation-of-international-law-by-ukraine/?utm_source=yandex.ru&utm_medium=organic&utm_campaign=yandex.ru&utm_referrer=yandex.ru

This war is not gonna end good for Zelensky, Ukrainain are psychological dependence on others,unable too engage in critical thinking,they need to make rational decisions

China did not help Russia's invasion, we just the no.1 buyer of Russian oil!