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Ukraine reclaims full control of logistics hub from Russia

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After having failed to take Kherson in a botched attempt last month, Zelensky's last remaining offensive forces are being led into a trap.

This is the same tactic the Russians used in Stalingrad and Kursk.

Pull back, draw enemy front line units out of their foxholes into a open air position that has no fortifications and then surround them with a pincer squeeze.

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Why is it that Russia has not been declared a terrorist state, with massive sanctions against any country that continues economic and trade interactions with Russia?

If threatening, frighteningly, to use atomic bombs on urban centers (when there are other avenues of alternative actions open to Russia) is not terrorism, then nothing is terrorism.

There are reports and evidence on social media of very high Russian casualties as they were withdrawing from Lyman over roads under heavy fire from the Ukrainian armed forces.

Also it looks like the Russians were reinforcing Lyman by deploying newly 'mobilized' soldiers straight to the thick of the fighting there. So many of the dead are men who were conscripted from their homes and jobs less than two weeks ago.

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Zelensky is delusional,no way in hell,will the US Senate ratify Ukraine to be a part of NATO an another penny of US taxpayer money , should be spent on this lost cause, before the people in Florida are recovered and made whole

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Ukraine is winning battles.

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do you think it’s possible that the Ukrainians might also remember World War Two and, you know, be on the lookout for a trap?

They should be, but their leader is desperate for social media pics that he can use to ask for more billions that military decisions are made based on generating facebook likes not actual military strategy.

Many Ukrainian servicemen will lose their lives because of this. They were safe in their fortified bunkers.

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Putin ally Ramzan Kadyrov, the leader of Russia's southern Chechnya region, on Saturday called for a change of strategy "right up to the declaration of martial law in the border areas and the use of low-yield nuclear weapons."

Ramzan Kadyrov is not very smart. Not only would tactical nukes not help Russia, they wouldn't help them out in the war. Also, how do you declare marshall law, wen your military personnel are fighting a war.

Washington says it would respond decisively to any use of nuclear weapons.

Indeed, you would likely see NATO come in and wipe out Putin's army.

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Pull back, draw enemy front line units out of their foxholes into a open air position that has no fortifications and then surround them with a pincer squeeze.

Are the casualties and loss of military equipment part of this tactic?

Even the kremlin can’t hide the huge loss of life.

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This is gonna be a very brutal winter for both side. They are gonna freeze their nuts off fighting each other in the coming months. If Ukraine is smart, they better start asking the west to supply them a lot winter gears, heaters and food supplies.

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Bronco

After having failed to take Kherson in a botched attempt last month, Zelensky's last remaining offensive forces are being led into a trap.

The plan to take Kherson is working to plan. The troops on the Kherson side of the Dnipro are slowing being starved of supplies. Their morale is failing and Putin will not allow any retreat.

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Wallace US won most of the battle,but lost the war,do you call been bombed into the stone age a victory

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Russians on the run. As the news of the debacle reaches the motherland, the question arises: who will succeed Putin?

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Bronco

This is the same tactic the Russians used in Stalingrad and Kursk.

I think military tactics have moved on from WWII. However, I get your point, Russian tactics probably haven't.

Pull back, draw enemy front line units out of their foxholes into a open air position that has no fortifications and then surround them with a pincer squeeze.

Except that they forgot the crucial part: "surround them with a pincer squeeze". Because that's what the Ukrainian army did in Lyman to the Rssians.

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CIA said Russia had suffered 60,000 casualties in Ukraine since widening its war there Feb. 24.

Russia Lost 900 ‘Elite’ Soldiers in Ukraine Fighting — Report

https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/09/01/russia-lost-900-elite-soldiers-in-ukraine-fighting-report-a78697

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This is the same tactic the Russians used in Stalingrad and Kursk.

To die in large numbers and then run away?

Spoiler alert: this ain't Stalingrad and these Russians aren't the Red army.

Even if this WERE the plan,.... Golly, if only there were a book or two for the Ukrainian army to read......

(Get better talking points)

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Ukraine reclaims full control of logistics hub from Russia..

Russia reclaims all the territories that were liberated from the Ukrainian regime, and were annexed to its territory..

Who is the real winner??..

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Zelenskiy said on Friday that peace talks with Russia while Putin was still president would be impossible. "We are ready for a dialogue with Russia, but with another president of Russia," he said.

So many times I’ve seen Russian supporters on here claiming Zelenskiy is the one refusing to negotiate peace. This proves otherwise.

Russia reclaims all the territories that were liberated from the Ukrainian regime, and were annexed to its territory..

Who is the real winner??..

Me. I annexed Moscow just a couple of days ago. Might do St. Petersburg a little later today.

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They should be, but their leader is desperate for social media pics that he can use to ask for more billions that military decisions are made based on generating facebook likes not actual military strategy

I can’t imagine you directing operations on the battlefields for some reason. Can’t put my finger on why.

A lot of,…what do the rightist trolls call it…’butt-hurt’ people here.

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If we can agree the Russian army is weak and pathetic and are basically throwing men at the NATO guns to stem the advance

Ok, let’s agree to that. Though I’d also add incompetent, demoralized and ill-equipped. Can we agree to that too?

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I understand the age old German fear of Russian domination of Germany. I also understand they can't do anything right now because now they are absolutely, completely reliant on (very expensive) US LNG. But come the spring of next year, if the German state just accepts the stunning act of Eco terrorism of the Nord Stream pipelines, we can say that Stalin really did defeat Germany. Defeated any ounce of independence and pride they might have once had.

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And they keep on going - Ukraine's Forces of course.

Well, those, RuSSians, too, of course, except it's the wrong (?) direction.

Retreating, fleeing, leaving everything and everyone behind.

Quite impressive!

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If we can agree, will you sign up for the easiest money ever!? https://silentprofessionals.org/jobs/extraction-protective-agents-ukraine/

No.

Because as has been pointed out to you several times and which you keep ignoring is that the job posting you keep referring to is for people already in the area, able to speak local languages and with at least 5 years military experience to work as security extraction.

It is not a recruitment for foreign mercenaries.

But you’ll ignore this and keep posting it anyway.

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Ukraine is winning battles.

Winning battles and winning a war are two entirely different things.

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Winning battles is good for troops and public morale. Win enough battles and win the war. Ukraine is not the push-over Putin thought.

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If we can agree the Russian army is weak and pathetic and are basically throwing men at the NATO guns to stem the advance

Ok, let’s agree to that. Though I’d also add incompetent, demoralized and ill-equipped. Can we agree to that too?

Don't forget drunk!

Although I can't really blame them for that. If I were sent to my almost certain death as a result of lies, bad equipment and leadership, I'd be drunk most of the time too.

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Zelenskiy said on Friday that peace talks with Russia while Putin was still president would be impossible. "We are ready for a dialogue with Russia, but with another president of Russia," he said.

So many times I’ve seen Russian supporters on here claiming Zelenskiy is the one refusing to negotiate peace. This proves otherwise.

Actually proves the point

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Man, the maps are changing so quickly today, it's hard to keep up. Keep pounding, Ukraine.

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Actually proves the point

that Putin is holding up peace. I agree.

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Putin stated clearly that the illegally annexed provinces aren't up for negotiation. So for as far as he has that stance, there can be no basis for a peace agreement.

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Winning battles and winning a war are two entirely different things.

Lol Is there any reason to believe they won't be winning the war as well? Basically every thing is in Ukraine's favor. Better weapons, more of them, richer allies, a motivated and capable military. Russians on the other hand, poorly trained, equipped, motivated, and disciplined.

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Winning battles is good for troops and public morale. Win enough battles and win the war. Ukraine is not the push-over Putin thought.

How are the battles in Kherson oblast going? I saw a video on Telegram this morning. Frightening stuff! A convoy or 30~40 Ukrainian tanks and armored vehicles moving along a road. Someone was watching them. Suddenly the tank at the head of the convoy exploded and then all hell broke loose. Couldn't see what was going on as the area quickly filled with smoke but the video cut away to the aftermath. Some tanks and armored vehicles tried to escape the road and make a run for it through the fields but it didn't look like any got away.

History shows that when fascists launch pincer offensives against Russians but by the time the pincers close, there are no Russians inside, it's time for the fascists to be very afraid of what's coming next.

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After having failed to take Kherson in a botched attempt last month, Zelensky's last remaining offensive forces are being led into a trap.

This is the same tactic the Russians used in Stalingrad and Kursk.

Pull back, draw enemy front line units out of their foxholes into a open air position that has no fortifications and then surround them with a pincer squeeze.

"Where pincer squeeze?" is going to be the new "Where air defence?" then? So cute.

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Disintegrating. Just lashing out now. 

I think the walls have closed in on taking this seriously.

That ship sailed a long time ago.

I don’t understand why somebody would continue to demean themselves like this. It’s compensating for something awful but I can’t imagine what.

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appears to have irrecoverably damaged people's brains!

yep, you are living proof

Don’t get upset. 

You were asked to provide evidence.

apparently his word is evidence enough

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Well there you have it! The Russians blew up their own pipelines rather than just turn off the tap.....

Ah yes, because Russia has never bombed their own pipelines before, right? Because they're never bombed their own citizens to gin up support for a war, right?

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Who's doing the investigation?

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before the people in Florida are recovered and made whole

Indeed, it's a shame that infrastructure in Florida, a state hit hundreds of times by hurricanes, was not ready once again to handle this last one, except perhaps for Babcock Ranch which gets most of its power from solar, I bet Tucker didn’t tell y’all that, and it’s also doubtful Big Lies Social did. Nor did your MTG and others in US/QZ circles

https://www.ctvnews.ca/climate-and-environment/this-100-solar-community-endured-hurricane-ian-with-no-loss-of-power-and-minimal-damage-1.6092491

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Winning battles is good for troops and public morale.

winning a war is better for everyone.

Win enough battles and win the war.

There nowhere near there yet.

Ukraine is not the push-over Putin thought.

Russia is annexing Ukraine, and not the other way around

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Military operations continue in southern and eastern regions of Ukraine as of Oct. 2; Ukraine recaptures Lyman Oct. 1.

"Russia is likely setting conditions to assume the legal responsibility of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant (ZNPP). Russian authorities detained the general director of the ZNPP, Ihor Murashov, on September 30.[7] A Russian miblogger claimed that Murashov’s detention will have no tangible impact on the operation of the plant since the power units are already shut down".

https://www.criticalthreats.org/analysis/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-october-1

Interactive Map: Russia's Invasion of Ukraine

https://storymaps.arcgis.com/stories/36a7f6a6f5a9448496de641cf64bd375

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bass4funk

Ukraine is not the push-over Putin thought.

Russia is annexing Ukraine, and not the other way around

Illegal annexing is only 18% of Ukraine's territory.

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Well there you have it! The Russians blew up their own pipelines rather than just turn off the tap....

Yes, that’s exactly what happened because the midget from Moscow is desperate.

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Axel

I'm pretty sure nobody knows at this point, but it will be investigated.

It seems most likely that it would have been Russia, and if the blasts come from inside the pipes, that would definitely point to them.

Well there you have it! The Russians blew up their own pipelines rather than just turn off the tap..... And what, there is more!

It's quite a lot more permanent and designed to invoke terror.

On the one hand, "it needs to be investigated". On the other, the explosions came from inside the pipelines. Right...... So Nord Stream 1 has been in operation for about 10 years. So when it was being built, around 12 years ago, 4 years before the coup in Ukraine, Putin had the foresight to place explosives in the pipeline in order to....... what? Just for the sake of it because he's Putin and that's what he does.

You should be aware that they have robots that can walk inside the pipeline. Strap some explosives to the robot and Boom!

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Winning battles is good for troops and public morale. 

winning a war is better for everyone.

Win enough battles and win the war.

There nowhere near there yet.

Ukraine is not the push-over Putin thought.

Russia is annexing Ukraine, and not the other way around

Corporal cut and paste tries to whataboutism its way out of a stupid opinion.

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Axel. You have a very, uhh, creative definition of the word fascist. Some people would consider 15 years in the slam for criticizing a “special military operation” a fascist policy, but hey, I guess they are mistaken, eh?

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There nowhere near there yet.

Oh don't worry, Ukraine is well on its way.

Russia is annexing Ukraine, and not the other way around

Lol Russia declaring they've "annexed" parts of Ukraine doesn't mean they control the land. Rest assured, they never will. Any attempt at occupying the land will be met with stochastic violence. We've already seen the homes of Russian collaborators bombed.

Russia claims to have annexed territory, yet Ukraine continues to take back more of that territory.

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Axel

I have never said Russia blew the pipeline. I said I did not know. How could I? I don't have the resources. I said it would take a country like Russia to have the capabilities.

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Btw, Axel, Russia blew the pipelines. You actually want people to believe that Washington committed an act of war against NATO, now, in the present circumstances. It’s an embarrassingly stupid argument. Give it a rest.

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Winning battles is good for troops and public morale.

winning a war is better for everyone.

Win enough battles and win the war.

There nowhere near there yet.

Don't know about that, but THEY'RE getting near it...

Yesterday it was "they are on the cuffs"....LOL...

Ukraine is not the push-over Putin thought.

Russia is annexing Ukraine, and not the other way around

The pure Russia-love and Putin fan-boyism continue to circulate in the US far-right...

Watching Fox News night-time line-up is like watching Russia State TV, albeit with more bow ties...

Look at what Russia is doing today and you'll see what MAGA-world wants to bring to America...

No wonder Canada and Mexico are worried...

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PT,these people in Florida,are not worried about Ukrainain,they are in survival mode,and if Biden do not offer massive amounts of aid,they are gonna be pissed, foreigner do not know the sentiment of American,when they are in survival mode,when their lives have been wiped from them

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Axel

Pressure in one of the pipelines was normalized and stopped leaking gas. There is no evidence of which country or group is responsible for the pipeline attacks.

Good one @Wallace! You are a smart one, aren't you? Gas stopped leaking because it was already all released into the atmosphere!

 it had been informed by the company operating the Nord Stream 2 pipeline that pressure appears to have stabilized in the pipeline, which runs from Russia to Germany. "This indicates that the leaking of gas in this pipeline has ceased," the Danish Energy Agency said.

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Illegal annexing is only 18% of Ukraine's territory.

Nonetheless, it is still illegal, is it not according to the Geneva convention? You make it seem like that it’s OK.

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Russian military ships were spotted off the SW coast of Ireland where the undersea cables to the US.

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Yrral

PT,these people in Florida,are not worried about Ukrainain,they are in survival mode,and if Biden do not offer massive amounts of aid,they are gonna be pissed, foreigner do not know the sentiment of American,when they are in survival mode,when their lives have been wiped from them

Of course he will. However, the current governor of Florida, Ron De Santis, doesn't think that states should get federal aid in times of disaster...

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If Ukraine is smart, they better start asking the west to supply them a lot winter gears, heaters and food supplies."

I remember the winter gear needs were mentioned in the media a few weeks ago so one would imagine that Ukrainians will be getting that soon if not already.

The troops on the Kherson side of the Dnipro are slowing being starved of supplies. Their morale is failing and Putin will not allow any retreat."

Was interesting to see an interview with a frontline Ukranian officer saying that while on the Ukranian side low level commanders have authority to make tactical decisions on the spot, based on the fast evolving situation the Russian soldiers have to get the OK from the highest ranking officer before they can move. He was basically saying that when Russian soldiers request a retreat they have to wait for the approval from their top vertical officer while holding that same position , effectively allowing the Ukranians to flatten them. Beggars belief they continue doing this after the recent losses they suffered.

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Russia reclaims all the territories that were liberated from the Ukrainian regime, and were annexed to its territory..

I wonder if the Austrians sounded like you do after the Nazis annexed their country.

You can’t liberate the liberated.

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bass4funk

Illegal annexing is only 18% of Ukraine's territory.

Nonetheless, it is still illegal, is it not according to the Geneva convention? You make it seem like that it’s OK.

No, I do not. You posted about the annexing of four Ukrainian regions, which is 18% of the total territory and Russia is not in full control of those areas.

The referendum only included Russian separatist voters who are a minority and not all of the people of the region. The majority are Ukrainians.

The annexing is illegal under the UN Charter which Russia is a signature of.

The obligations between Russia and Ukraine with regard to territorial integrity and the prohibition of the use of force are laid down in a number of multilateral or bilateral agreements to which Russia and Ukraine are signatories.

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Nonetheless, it is still illegal, is it not according to the Geneva convention? You make it seem like that it’s OK.

Continuing on yesterday’s theme of proving that it knows as little about “geopolitical politics” (a term it seems to have created) as it knows about elections or the law, which is to say “nothing.”

The above “sentence” is not even internally consistent with itself. It seems to argue both in favor of and against it in the same sentence.

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I wonder if the Austrians sounded like you do after the Nazis annexed their country.

You can’t liberate the liberated.

Oddly enough, it's the Russians doing the annexing. huh

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bass4funk

An illegal and sham referendum and against agreed international laws.

In the four regions of Luhansk, Donetsk, Zaporizhzhia, and Kherson Russians are a minority group.

Luhansk population: 2,121,322, Ukrainians 1,230,000 (58%). Russians 800,000 (42%).

Donetsk population: 4,400,000. Ukrainians 2,700,000 (57%). Russians 1,800,000 (38%).

Zaporizhzhia population : 1,650,000. Ukrainians 1,100,000. (70%). Russians 500,000 (30%)

 Three-quarters of the local population have left the occupied parts of Zaporizhzhia Oblast, making it impossible to hold a sham “referendum”

Kherson population: 270,000. Ukrainians 221,000 (82%) Russians 38,000 (18%).

Putin/Russia claim the referendum was 100%. Impossible.

Putin did not care about the results of the referendum, just the outcome.

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bass4funk

This refers to a unilateral act of a State through which it proclaims its sovereignty over the territory of another State. It usually involves the threat or use of force, as the annexing State usually occupies the territory in question in order to assert its sovereignty over it. Annexation amounts to an act of aggression, forbidden by international law. IHL provides that in the event that an Occupying Power annexes all or part of an occupied territory, protected persons therein shall not be deprived of the benefits of the Fourth Geneva Convention. 

https://casebook.icrc.org/glossary/annexation-prohibition

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The US regime, probably using Ukrainians or Poles or ISIS jihadis trained by US forces, blew holes in the pipelines.

Only a lunatic or someone on the dole would say anything so insanely dumb.

To be fair, those are not mutually exclusive choices. It could be both.

I’m going with both.

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Who is the real winner??.." - Me. I annexed Moscow just a couple of days ago. Might do St. Petersburg a little later today.

Ha....good one.

Putin stated clearly that the illegally annexed provinces aren't up for negotiation. So for as far as he has that stance, there can be no basis for a peace agreement."

Agreed. As long as Putin doesn't budge on that and Zelensky insists on a different Russian president the prospects for negotiations are dim.

It would need the resources of a country like Russia."

In the interest of fairness , the fact is US and a number of NATO states have those resources as well. Lets see what the investigation will uncover.

Well there you have it! The Russians blew up their own pipelines rather than just turn off the tap....Yes, that’s exactly what happened because the midget from Moscow is desperate."

You,re getting a bit ahead of yourself there...investigations are just starting.

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bass4funk

The Nord Stream pipelines are 15-210m below the surface.

Intelligence sources quoted in the news magazine Spiegel believe the pipelines were hit in four places by explosions using 500kg of TNT, the equivalent to the explosive power of a heavy aircraft bomb. German investigators have undertaken seismic readings to calculate the power of the blasts.

It remains a mystery as to how the explosives reached the pipeline. According to initial reports, the explosions happened at depths of between 70 and 90 metres.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/30/nord-stream-blasts-size-equal-to-large-amount-of-explosive-un-told

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Baltic Sea military ship tracker

https://www.marinevesseltraffic.com/NATO-navy-ships

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Intelligence sources quoted in the news magazine Spiegel believe the pipelines were hit in four places by explosions using 500kg of TNT,

The explosions occurred well inside NATO waters, that were being monitored by both the US and several European navies.

If Russia did it then every single NATO Naval Commander in the area should be sacked immediately.

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Ah yes, because Russia has never bombed their own pipelines before, right? Because they're never bombed their own citizens to gin up support for a war, right?

I've never heard of Russians doing those things. I know USA bombed its own naval vessal in order to blame Vietnam. I also know USA used its own soldiers to test the effects of radiation from nuclear bombs. I also know they almost completely wiped out the native polulation of North America. Have the Russians ever done such things?

A French governor (France is also adversely effected by this) tweeted sarcastically, 'Russians are strange people. They bomb nuclear power plants only after they occupy it and bomb their own pipelines rather than turn off the spigot.'

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Does the Russian embassy really think that giving its employees account with Western user names really disguise their identity?

Lol what's wrong with you?

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The big question is what will those crazy Russians do or say next.

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No, I do not. You posted about the annexing of four Ukrainian regions, which is 18% of the total territory and Russia is not in full control of those areas.

That’s not the point, so 18% is acceptable? Yes or No?

The annexing is illegal under the UN Charter which Russia is a signature of.

We know that, so what is the US and NATO going to do about it?

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bass4funk,

to answer your first question: NO! It's Ukraine's territory. It's not annexed it's robbed, stolen, or whatever you want to call it.

Question number 2: time will show. I don't have the answer since I don't own a crystal ball.

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No, I do not. You posted about the annexing of four Ukrainian regions, which is 18% of the total territory and Russia is not in full control of those areas.

That’s not the point, so 18% is acceptable? Yes or No?

The annexing is illegal under the UN Charter which Russia is a signature of.

We know that, so what is the US and NATO going to do about it?

Anyone else notice that corpral cut and paste won't offer an opinion of it's own other than to complain about whatever NATO and the West are doing?

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Ukraine "winning" finally?

Did they "crushed" Russia already as they had plan to do so months ago throught mount of Mr.Volodymyr?

Just wanted be informed.

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The explosions occurred well inside NATO waters, that were being monitored by both the US and several European navies.

If Russia did it then every single NATO Naval Commander in the area should be sacked immediately.

2020Hindsights 08:51

You should be aware that they have robots that can walk inside the pipeline. Strap some explosives to the robot and Boom!

whoops, there goes that argument

I get it. You really wish Washington were that stupid. Sorry, it’s not.

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If Putin is willing to use nuclear weapons then he is capable of blowing up the Nord Stream pipelines.

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Though I’d also add incompetent, demoralized and ill-equipped. Can we agree to that too?

Barely. Holding still 18% with those attributes isn’t so bad. And this one here, Lyman, I guess, the whole planet including Russians and Ukrainians themselves, have before the war neither heard of that place nor could show it on a map. That bigger village is of no real or significant importance for the whole picture.

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bass4funk

If you wish me to respond to your comments then please add my profile so I know you are addressing me.

No, I do not. You posted about the annexing of four Ukrainian regions, which is 18% of the total territory and Russia is not in full control of those areas.

That’s not the point, so 18% is acceptable? Yes or No?

It does not matter what I think, but t is not acceptable to Ukraine including Crimea. Russia signed treaties with Ukraine and then disregarded them.

The annexing is illegal under the UN Charter which Russia is a signature of.

We know that, so what is the US and NATO going to do about it?

You could try answering since America is your country. I expect there is nothing to be done for the time being.

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To those who actually think Washington blew the pipelines…

They

Would

Get

Caught.

that would end NATO. Immediately.

Washington knows that.

discussion over

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Barely. Holding still 18% with those attributes isn’t so bad. And this one here, Lyman, I guess, the whole planet including Russians and Ukrainians themselves, have before the war neither heard of that place nor could show it on a map. That bigger village is of no real or significant importance for the whole picture.

So next week, when it's less than 18% will that be a bigger deal?

Just because you have never heard of a place name (that I had not heard of either) before, doen't necessarily make it unimportant.

The military experts seem to think you are sorely mistaken, so I will go with them.

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We know that, so what is the US and NATO going to do about it?

They're actually the ones stopping this whole thing going nuclear. I could be wrong, but I don't think it will go that far simply because there are enough wiser heads in Russia than Putin, and they know it will mean their own obliteration as well... and in the meantime, Ukraine keeps on keeping on.

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to answer your first question: NO! It's Ukraine's territory. It's not annexed it's robbed, stolen, or whatever you want to call it.

I get that part.

Question number 2: time will show. I don't have the answer since I don't own a crystal ball.

I think most of us don’t not even the leaders that got us into this mess.

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It does not matter what I think, but t is not acceptable to Ukraine including Crimea. Russia signed treaties with Ukraine and then disregarded them.

Again, now how will the West

You could try answering since America is your country. I expect there is nothing to be done for the time being.

Well, this is another mail in the coffin for this administration, I guess that clears things up for me.

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Well, this is another mail in the coffin for this administration, I guess that clears things up for me.

I think you mean nail... or maybe postbox... but either way it sounds like you want them to go to war.

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Axel

How are the battles in Kherson oblast going?

The Ukrainians just made 30 km and are encircling the troops in the north of the Oblast. It's a big win for them. Expect to see more Russians running away.

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I think you mean nail..

typo

or maybe postbox

A what?

... but either way it sounds like you want them to go to war.

No, I want the US to stay out of this war and let NATO take care of it, 90% to be more precise

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bass4funk

It does not matter what I think, but t is not acceptable to Ukraine including Crimea. Russia signed treaties with Ukraine and then disregarded them.

Again, now how will the West

Is it so hard for you to be polite and add my profile when addressing me? Even after I already asked you to.

Your intelligence at times overwhelms me. How do you expect me to speak for the "West"? I'm not blessed with your powers or resources.

You could try answering since America is your country. I expect there is nothing to be done for the time being.

Well, this is another mail in the coffin for this administration, I guess that clears things up for me.

What mail? Email? Snail mail? The answer is in the basement of Mar-a-Lago.

Seems like you do not care about what is happening in Ukraine provided it makes your current administration and president look bad.

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Russian troops should return to their own former borders, and take with them the stogies who had been fighting a proxy war upon their behalf with the Ukrainians since 2014.

Now of course, Russia won't pay heed to anything anyone says about it, and indeed threatens to Nuke all who oppose them.

Its time normal Russians rise up and dispose of Tsar Putin and his cronies.

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A what?

A postbox... you know... something that mail goes in.

No, I want the US to stay out of this war and let NATO take care of it, 90% to be more precise

You want the US to stay out of it and let NATO take care of it? If NATO is involved, the US is involved. There's no escaping that. Do you want NATO to go to war?

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Bass, sorry ......

..... but let me correct you:

*"No, I want the US to stay out of this war and let NATO take care of it, 90% to be more precise"*

If I'm not all wrong (maybe times have changed or I missed something during the past 30+ years) but I think the USofA is a valuable member of NATO, I think even the biggest contributor? Or did you want to say the EU?

Just asking for clarification.

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The recent string of battlefield reversals may indicate that Russia’s military is reaching a “breaking point,” said H.R. McMaster, a retired three-star general who served as national security adviser during the Trump administration.

“What we might be at here is really at the precipice of really the collapse of the Russian army in Ukraine. A moral collapse,” he told CBS.

All the combat-alfalfa dad-concripts and obsolete tanks in the world are not going to change the fact that the Russian "army" is a spent force with no leadership or morale, the air farce is on permanent vacation and the black sea "fleet" is to concerned about remaining afloat to contribute in any meaningful way.

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America's direct contribution to NATO is about $2.5 billion. That is offset by all the weapons sold to other NATO countries.

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Why are you warning them? Now they will surely retreat and spoil the Russian's clever trap!

Honestly, I wonder if Russian leadership even has the capability to tell soldiers its plans anymore. They seem to just be running around trying to look busy. Not that we should be complaining...

After having failed to take Kherson in a botched attempt last month, Zelensky's last remaining offensive forces are being led into a trap.

This is the same tactic the Russians used in Stalingrad and Kursk.

Pull back, draw enemy front line units out of their foxholes into a open air position that has no fortifications and then surround them with a pincer squeeze.

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If I'm not all wrong (maybe times have changed or I missed something during the past 30+ years) but I think the USofA is a valuable member of NATO, I think even the biggest contributor? Or did you want to say the EU?

Both.

Your intelligence at times overwhelms me.

Me as well.

Seems like you do not care about what is happening in Ukraine

No, I don’t. I don’t like what’s happening, I don’t want to see anyone suffer, but this is not our fight, at least it should not be.

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If the ragtag Mujahideen and Taliban can defeat both the Soviets\Russians and the United States, the Ukranians shouldn't have much trouble in this conflict, as long as they are well funded. Even the Israelis are still struggling to put out their fire they created in 1947. The only permanent solution to a conflict like this is through dialogue and negotiation, not force. Putin should have learned this after Chechnya.

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Both

What made you add NATO to the list of people who should be doing stuff to help Ukraine in the last 24 hours?

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What made you add NATO to the list of people who should be doing stuff to help Ukraine in the last 24 hours?

Look, all I’m saying is, the US and NATO were supposed to stop this maniac from annexing a sovereign nation? They’re not stopping it and by the way, what’s the EU doing about this? People complain and jump all over Putin who is the problem, but it’s the west that have planted the seeds to make this invasion possible, both the US and Europe need to take responsibility to an extent for this incursion. Vlad is going to do what he’s set out to do and the west was supposed to stop him and it’s not happening, but what is happening is the man is declaring and annexing a foreign nation.

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What do you want them to do that they aren’t already doing?

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