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Ukraine says eight villages retaken from Russian forces

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Steady progress by the liberators. Hope it picks up.

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> Ukraine said on Monday it had driven Russian forces out of an eighth village in its two-week-old counteroffensive,

So just 1 village since last week, 8 total.

Incremental indeed but better than no gains

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British and Estonian intelligence officials said that Russia had been moving some forces east along the front line from areas south of the Dnipro river flooded by the destruction of the huge Kakhovka hydroelectric dam on June 6.

And there we have it. The reason why Russia blew up the Kakhovka dam.

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And there we have it. The reason why Russia blew up the Kakhovka dam.

Hahahaha you don't really need reason to believe that

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And there we have it. The reason why Russia blew up the Kakhovka dam.

What was the reason they blew up Nordstream?

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What was the reason they blew up Nordstream?

What's the reason that you think that they did?

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The AFU launched a massive attack on the village of Pyatikhatka. The Ossetian 19th division defending the village fell back. It was a trap. The Ossetians the counter attacked on the flanks, put the village in a semi circle and cut off the AFU inside the village. Many AFU killed or wounded and captured. Only a few made it out by abandoning heavy weapons and fleeing across fields on foot. The captured included a group of with British patches on their uniforms.

This all happened in Zaporozhye oblast which is the homeland of the Cossacks. Cossacks warned NATO mercenaries not to be taken captive because the Cossacks would not grant them any leniency! Not sure what the attitude of Ossetians toward NATO mercenaries is but I think it's safe to say if those captives were British mercenaries, they are in grave danger.

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ian

And there we have it. The reason why Russia blew up the Kakhovka dam.

Hahahaha you don't really need reason to believe that

True, the overwhelming evidence clearly suggests the dam was crippled by an explosion set off by the side that controls it: Russia.

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What's the reason that you think that they did?

I missspoke. What was the reason you think the Russians blew up Nordstream?

I'm sure they didn't. It was the US regime. At least, the operation was managed by the US regime but Sy Hersch says the Norwegian AF triggered the explosions.

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Sven

The AFU launched a massive attack on the village of Pyatikhatka. The Ossetian 19th division defending the village fell back. It was a trap. The Ossetians the counter attacked on the flanks, put the village in a semi circle and cut off the AFU inside the village. Many AFU killed or wounded and captured. Only a few made it out by abandoning heavy weapons and fleeing across fields on foot.

And yet the AFU continue to control the village of Pyatikhatka. Kind of ruins the credibility of that report.

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Sven

What's the reason that you think that they did?

I missspoke. What was the reason you think the Russians blew up Nordstream?

Off topic.

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I missspoke. What was the reason you think the Russians blew up Nordstream?

Well who said I do?

Like you, I don't know. Unlike you, I don't assume it was someone that Putin claims it was.

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So just 1 village since last week, 8 total.

8 villages + one trench

https://twitter.com/i/status/1670706258326765569

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And yet the AFU continue to control the village of Pyatikhatka. Kind of ruins the credibility of that report.

According to who? As of 5 hours ago, the surviving, not captured AFU were fleeing across fields on foot.

Off topic.

You brought up the dam. So I'm just wondering what the reason (in your grubby little mind) was for the Russians to blow up Nordstream as well.

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Sven

And yet the AFU continue to control the village of Pyatikhatka. Kind of ruins the credibility of that report.

According to who? As of 5 hours ago, the surviving, not captured AFU were fleeing across fields on foot.

Yeah, right.

Off topic.

You brought up the dam. So I'm just wondering what the reason (in your grubby little mind) was for the Russians to blow up Nordstream as well.

I quoted from this news report. The dam is 'on topic'.

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2020hindsights

Today 08:23 am JST

ian

> And there we have it. The reason why Russia blew up the Kakhovka dam.

> Hahahaha you don't really need reason to believe that

> True, the overwhelming evidence clearly suggests the dam was crippled by an explosion set off by the side that controls it: Russia.

What overwhelming evidence?

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The Russian embassy of Japan really needs new talking points. Theirs are getting pretty flimsy.

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Yeah, right.

The truth can hurt but you should get used to it.

I quoted from this news report. The dam is 'on topic'.

Why don't you want to answer.? Who do you think was responsible for the Nordstream explosions?

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by quick look at google maps heroi may reach red square in about 20years....in case if still have fuel for tanks,trucks and human power to fight.

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Rodney

dont need to be a genius just need to use basic common sense and always ask old question valid for forever

CUI BONO?

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ian

What overwhelming evidence?

Seisimic signals picked up on two sensors, one in Romania and one in Ukraine, at 2:35 a.m. and 2:54 a.m. Ukraine time. The signals were both consistent with an explosion and not the collapse of the dam on its own.

A senior American military official said that the United States had ruled out an external attack on the dam, like a missile, bomb or some other projectile, and now assesses that the explosion came from one or more charges set inside it, and only Russian operatives had access to the inside of it.

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Sven

I quoted from this news report. The dam is 'on topic'.

Why don't you want to answer.? Who do you think was responsible for the Nordstream explosions?

I have no problem answering, but I won't because it is off topic.

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by quick look at google maps heroi may reach red square in about 20years....

You’ve said this a few times but are yet to give a reason why you think the Ukraine forces intend to invade Russia. What’s your ‘reasoning’ behind this quite frankly nonsense idea?

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The area is littered with Russian corpses, sometimes in groups. Destroyed villages and towns.

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The Russians have cried "Wolf!" too many times to be believable and their word is debased currency after the last hundred years of brazen gosvranyo (government deceit, practiced assiduously by all "kings with no clothes", a mind game involving a nuanced form of lying: you know I'm lying, and I know that you know, and you know that I know that you know, but I just keep on lying with a straight face while you just nod your head and take notes.) The Russian proverb "An old man lying is like a rich man stealing" fits Pooty's Potemkin democracy and his putrid kleptocracy to a T.

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Hardly the dramatic offensive i was hoping for.

I'm sorry you aren't entertained, lol. Anyway, I didn't realize you wanted Ukraine to kick the invaders out, but I am glad you do!

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Hurry up a little bit, at this current speed it will take centuries until they can put their victory flag up onto the Kremlin’s roof. lol

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Some telling comments. If you think Ukraine wants to invade Moscow, you've been drinking the Kremlin Kool aid a bit too much.

by quick look at google maps heroi may reach red square in about 20years....in case if still have fuel for tanks,trucks and human power to fight.

Hurry up a little bit, at this current speed it will take centuries until they can put their victory flag up onto the Kremlin’s roof. lol

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If you think Ukraine wants to invade Moscow

That may be the narrative in Russia now.

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2020hindsights

Today 09:03 am JST

ian

> What overwhelming evidence?

> Seisimic signals picked up on two sensors, one in Romania and one in Ukraine, at 2:35 a.m. and 2:54 a.m. Ukraine time. The signals were both consistent with an explosion and not the collapse of the dam on its own.

> A senior American military official said that the United States had ruled out an external attack on the dam, like a missile, bomb or some other projectile, and now assesses that the explosion came from one or more charges set inside it, and only Russian operatives had access to the inside of it.

That's the overwhelming evidence?

Lol

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by quick look at google maps heroi may reach red square in about 20years....in case if still have fuel for tanks,trucks and human power to fight.

Why invade Moscow when they can just drone it at will, eh?

This is by far your least credible "argument." The UA is not going to invade Russia. They are going to kick the Russians out of Ukraine.

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ian

Seisimic signals picked up on two sensors, one in Romania and one in Ukraine, at 2:35 a.m. and 2:54 a.m. Ukraine time. The signals were both consistent with an explosion and not the collapse of the dam on its own.*

A senior American military official said that the United States had ruled out an external attack on the dam, like a missile, bomb or some other projectile, and now assesses that the explosion came from one or more charges set inside it, and only Russian operatives had access to the inside of it.*

That's the overwhelming evidence?

Lol

Yes, because it establishes that it couldn't be because of HIMARS missiles (from Ukraine), or collapse of the dam on it's own. It also establishes the explosion came from inside the dam, which only the Russians had access to.

I will note that the Russians have destroyed another dam since that one, so it is their MO.

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Piatikhatky again? This village is located in the lowlands. It is dangerous for both sides to go there. Therefore, the village is in a gray zone. Russians don't go there at all, they just watch from their height. But Ukrainians come in, move around, bring new forces. Then the Russians shoot them with artillery...the solntsepyok inclu....What are Ukrainians proud of here??? Every day they are shot to dust...A pathetic article about nothing. Zele sends his men to certain death to please the Western bosses

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2020hindsights

Today 09:53 am JST

ian

> Seisimic signals picked up on two sensors, one in Romania and one in Ukraine, at 2:35 a.m. and 2:54 a.m. Ukraine time. The signals were both consistent with an explosion and not the collapse of the dam on its own.*

> A senior American military official said that the United States had ruled out an external attack on the dam, like a missile, bomb or some other projectile, and now assesses that the explosion came from one or more charges set inside it, and only Russian operatives had access to the inside of it.*

That's the overwhelming evidence?

> Lol

> Yes, because it establishes that it couldn't be because of HIMARS missiles (from Ukraine), or collapse of the dam on it's own. It also establishes the explosion came from inside the dam, which only the Russians had access to.

> I will note that the Russians have destroyed another dam since that one, so it is their MO.

It establishes nothing lol

Those are mostly speculation.

To establish something you need evidence and you mentioned overwhelming evidence.

Where is it?

What is it?

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A senior American military official said..

That's part of your overwhelming evidence?

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A senior American military official said that the United States had ruled out an external attack on the dam, like a missile, bomb or some other projectile, and now assesses that the explosion came from one or more charges set inside it, and only Russian operatives had access to the inside of it. - That's the overwhelming evidence?*

Well, as of yesterday there are photos in the media ( CNN, Guardian, ABC etc ) of a civilan car parked at the dam, laden with explosives.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/19/kakhovka-dam-collapse-image-apparently-explosive-laden-car-ukraine-russia

The images that for some reason appeared only just now were taken by a Ukranian drone " shortly before the dam gave way " and are the new evidence. The shot up civilan car was left parked in full view and conveniently had its roof cut out so that the "explosives" can be fully visible to any enemy drone that might just happened to fly over at the perfect time. It seems Russians ran out of spare trucks or anything else with a roof and had to place heavy explosives in a covertible Lada sedan. The photo looks super genuine and I refuse to imagine its an AI photoshop:) Believe it or not , your choice.

"The Russian embassy of Japan really needs new talking points. Theirs are getting pretty flimsy."

Valid point at times. Perhaps the western embassy staff on here could give them some lessons on creativity. Voila, problem solved.

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Sven

The captured included a group of with British patches on their uniforms.

Not sure what the attitude of Ossetians toward NATO mercenaries is but I think it's safe to say if those captives were British mercenaries, they are in grave danger.

Any chance of a link or some photos showing these patches? Tx.

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Ukraine says eight villages retaken from Russian forces.

Or did they mean 8 small insignificant small piles of rubble ?

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Thanks for the post La vie douce.

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La vie douce

Well, as of yesterday there are photos in the media ( CNN, Guardian, ABC etc ) of a civilan car parked at the dam, laden with explosives.

That still comports with:

it establishes that it couldn't be because of HIMARS missiles (from Ukraine), or collapse of the dam on it's own. It also establishes the explosion came from inside the dam, which only the Russians had access to.

Also, those source also conclude that Russia did it. Later in The Guardian:

The Institute for the Study of War, a US thinktank that has monitored Russian actions in Ukraine since the war began, has claimed that “the balance of evidence, reasoning, and rhetoric suggests that the Russians deliberately damaged the dam”.

Ukraine’s intelligence service released an intercepted conversation it claimed was between a Russian soldier and someone else in which the soldier said “our sabotage groups were there. They wanted to create a scare with the dam. It didn’t quite go according to plan.”

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Keep going..

It's a Russian trap..

You will see..

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Deputy Defense Minister Hanna Maliar said Ukrainian forces had retaken Piatykhatky and advanced by up to seven km (4.3 miles) into Russian lines in two weeks, capturing 113 square km of land.

Good news

Unfortunately even on Ukrainian Telegram resorces such information is not available

the counteroffensive failed. huge losses in equipment and manpower. Disputed villages change hands ten times

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