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Ukraine orders end to defense of Mariupol

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Ukraine on Friday ordered its last troops holed up in Mariupol's besieged Azovstal steelworks to lay down their arms after nearly three months of desperate resistance against a ferocious Russian assault.

desperate resistance ??? I thought these Azov guys were valiant heroic never surrender legends. They look like common street thugs.

ferocious Russian assault ??? But last month the media said the Russian assault had "stalled", "bogged down", "plagued by flat tires, broken turrets, poor leadership and carried out by demoralized 17 year-old unpaid drunken conscripts"

The propaganda bubble just got popped by the real heroes, the Russian speaking East Ukrainians who fought relentlessly to liberate their city from the clutches of the extremists Azov Battalion who don't live there.

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ferocious Russian assault ??? But last month the media said the Russian assault had "stalled", "bogged down", "plagued by flat tires, broken turrets, poor leadership and carried out by demoralized 17 year-old unpaid drunken conscripts"

Bronco - I think you are conflating what has happened in Mariupol with the much larger picture of the entire Russian invasion. Normally, I would be happy to grant you the benefit of the doubt, but I have noticed that you sometimes use obfuscation in your posts.

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Hard to believe it is still happening. I have noticed the news services carry less coverage than before. It looks like this will go the way of most other long drawn out battles.

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Japantime - yes, unfortunately, it looks like this war could go on for many more months or years.

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yrral, the Russians are attempting to encircle the Ukrainians around Sievierodonetsk and Lysychansk with pincers from Popasna and Izyum, but this hasn’t happened yet. I could be wrong, but I don’t see this encirclement happening.

https://liveuamap.com/

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The International Committee of the Red Cross urged both sides to grant it access to prisoners of war and civilian internees, "wherever they are held".

Hopefully both sides will allow organizations like the Red Cross to have access to the internees, and hopefully the Ukrainian internees will not later be sent to an internment camp somewhere in Siberia, and the Russian internees can go back to Russia where they belong, and where they should never have been forced by Putin and the Kremlin to leave.

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Propaganda bubble popped

Roger that !

Lima Charlie !

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Kyo wa - that bit of rather generalized feedback is not as helpful as it may have sounded to you in your head. Do you have a more specific claim that I can address?

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Right, the Kiev regime, having ordered the guys hiding in tunnels (and ever so often trying to set up to fire on either the small group manning the security perimeter around them, or the hostile city they'd fought their blood soaked way into less than a decade ago, only to be hit by directed fire) to stay there, who've been surrendering individually and collectively having finally realized that no one was going to be able to make it hundreds of miles behind the frontlines, through country unfriendly to the Kiev regime, and a city in the process of erasing the legacy of being occupied by guys who have as a unit symbol something notably similar to the one the Buffalo gunman decorated his weapon with, to rescue them, has now ordered them to surrender, having realized that without that reversal, there'd be a big roadblock on trying to Snake Island them into heroes, the fact that their surrender was an act of treason against the Kiev regime.

Of course that they surrendered to the Free Donetsk army, not the Russian one, holds its own thorny surprise.

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Right, the Kiev regime, 

Kyiv.

Of course that they surrendered to the Free Donetsk army, not the Russian one, holds its own thorny surprise.

They're one and the same. There is no "Free Donetsk," and there never will be. They'll either stay part of Ukraine, or be stolen by filthy Russia.

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They'll either stay part of Ukraine, or be stolen by filthy Russia.

The soldiers of the Free Donetsk Republic, who were born in Ukraine and hold Ukrainian passports aren't going to stop fighting for their freedom, as evidenced by the battle for Maruipol.

The Z army of East Ukrainians were the underdogs, hated by the media and their woke followers.

But the East Ukrainian Z army fought valiantly and it's obvious they will never allow themselves to be controlled by a NATO puppet government.

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for their freedom, as evidenced by the battle for Maruip

Lol They're aren't fighting for their freedom. They're fighting to become part of Russia, and lose all of their freedom.

 hated by the media and their woke followers.

And anyone else not stupid enough to realize how the Russian government fueled the separatist movement there.

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And anyone else not stupid enough to realize how the Russian government fueled the separatist movement there.

And anyone else not stupid enough to realize how the US government fueled the nationalist movement in Ukraine.

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Guess all the talk about weak LNR/DNR/Russian army wasn't true.

Glad they surrendered.

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And anyone else not stupid enough to realize how the US government fueled the nationalist movement in Ukraine.

lol What nationalist movement? Most Ukrainians look forward to moving towards free Europe and away from the authoritarian cesspool that is Russia.

Russia, of course, is sad with their diminishing relevance began funding separatists in eastern Ukraine. Of course, this isn't going well either.

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It’s part of Donbass so why is Ukraine “defending” it?

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It’s part of Donbass so why is Ukraine “defending” it?

Because "Dombass" is a region, and not a country. Despite what Russia wants the world to believe.

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hey look like common street thugs.

The common street thugs are mostly those in Vladimir's army invading, pillaging, raping and murdering civilians.

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“Mariupol has been completely liberated!” … Putin

No, Mariupol has been completely violated.

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About time. To have continued being holed up would have been disastrous for them and the city

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But his lawyer said in closing arguments that the young soldier was "not guilty" of premeditated murder and war crimes.

It makes me wonder how much training the young soldier had, and how much he had been brainwashed to actually believe Ukrainian civilians were his enemies and that if he sees one, just shoot them. I know in every war innocents are killed, maybe better then not to have wars.

This young man probably thought he was just doing his job. Maybe if he actually spends time behind bars he will start to realize that Putin and his Kremlin mates, who are by that time are back safe and protected in their palaces and yachts eating caviar and swilling expensive booze are the actual enemies of the ordinary Russian soldiers and people. Because Putin and mates started the war and have usurped and sold Russia's resources for their personal benefits and relegated people like him to a life little different from that of serfs of old, maybe his ancestors.

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You do these trials after the war, If they sentence this boy to death and make a big news circus out of it, this will not be a good thing for Ukrainian prisoners in Russia. That is just a fact'

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New facts on the ground. Now what, NATO fanboys?

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Now what, NATO fanboys?

Portugal?

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New facts on the ground. Now what, NATO fanboys?

Russia temporarily occupies Mariupol, until their poorly trained troops are inevitably transformed into sunflowers, in numbers so great they can be used as an alternative fuel.

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Ukraine orders end to defense of Mariupol

LOL! Just imagine articles in German newspapers after Stalingrad: "Hitler ordered end of defense of Stalingrad". Whatever the wording, the truth is simple: complete surrender of the best-trained, best-motivated Ukronazi troops. Great victory for Donbass. Exellent news.

@UChosePoorly

the Russians are attempting to encircle the Ukrainians around Sievierodonetsk and Lysychansk with pincers from Popasna and Izyum, but this hasn’t happened yet. I could be wrong, but I don’t see this encirclement happening

And you are wrong, the encirclement is happening. It's slow - don't forget, the Allies (Russians and Donbass forces) have no superiority in numbers, and the Ukroregime forces are extremely well fortified. Never mind, they'll end like in Mariupol.

@takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com

And anyone else not stupid enough to realize how the Russian government fueled the separatist movement there

And anyone else not stupid enough to realize the were absolutely no separatist movement at Donbass till 2014, when the freshly installed coup-plotters tried to impose their mad Ukronazi ideals on peaceful Donbass people. You reaped what you sowed.

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Asakaze - Thank you for your prediction. I am always interested in those who claim to have superior insights. By when would you say that the Russians will encircle the Sievierodonetsk defenders?

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You reaped what you sowed.

Indeed, this why there are now a lot of sunflowers growing in Ukraine. Kept sending your boys, Russia.

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@UChosePoorly

I am always interested in those who claim to have superior insights. By when would you say that the Russians will encircle the Sievierodonetsk defenders?

I never claimed to have any superior insights. I'm just interested in the situation in Donbass and try to follow as much news from there as possible. I think the Allies will encircle the Severodonetsk / Lisichansk garrison in the coming week. Most supply routs for it are already cut off.

@takeda.shingen.1991@gmail.com

Indeed, this why there are now a lot of sunflowers growing in Ukraine. Kept sending your boys, Russia

The regime and its NATO cheerleaders did not learn the lesson of Mariupol? Keep sending the cannon fodder and its Erstern instructors, the sunflowers will grow much better.

I just can't understand why NATO is moaning now about the "Donbass separatists" while it armed, trained and fully supported Kosovo separatists? You know, two can play this game.

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The regime and its NATO cheerleaders did not learn the lesson of Mariupol?

How many thousand Russian troops did it take to beat a few hundred soldiers? Pathetic. As I said before, this is only temporary. We are already seeing the M777s pummel the Russian invaders.

 You know, two can play this game.

Good on you for acknowledging now that Russia armed, trained, and fomented separatism in Eastern Ukraine as the pretext to their ham-fisted land grab.

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