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Ukrainian troops pull back again as Russia's onslaught pushes ahead in east

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Supply lines will get shorter and Ukraine's resolve to defeat the fascist will get stronger.

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The loss of life on both sides is pointless, Russia has clearly won

Then why is there still a war going on? Are we supposed to take this Kremlin propaganda at face value?

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There is much more about this war and its consequences than we are being told in the media. This interview with Tucker Carlson is very revealing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbEwrMiMBbY

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Almost the end game for Zelensky now,. Call for a ceasefire or lose more territory.

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Almost the end game for Zelensky now,. Call for a ceasefire or lose more territory.

Or fight to keep your territory because the alternative is losing freedom for all children of Ukraine forever.

Let's not pretend this is not an existential threat to Ukraine.

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Almost the end game for Zelensky

ProPutin People,have been saying,this for 2years.

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Jimizo

Have they? Dunno about that, just looking at the current state of the conflict.

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playing dangerous games with nuclear powers is very stupid and not far-sighted. Nuclear powers have increased responsibility both to the world and to their people. And it’s frivolous to think that someone from other countries can dictate terms while neglecting the security of Russia

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War's getting uglier by day, Ukraine's mobilization still held up in Parliament as people correctly flee Ukraine. Ukraine's less than half its population now vs. 1990, heading south fast.

Nobody notes Russians motivated, protecting their many new citizens that achieved their legal independence in Ukraine's 10year Civil War. There's no going back, more fighting will not undo their citizenship change decision.

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playing dangerous games with nuclear powers is very stupid and not far-sighted. Nuclear powers have increased responsibility both to the world and to their people. And it’s frivolous to think that someone from other countries can dictate terms while neglecting the security of Russia

Well said, maniacs playing above insane 'game' are the unelected globalist special interests inside 16OO. Clock is ticking on Biden and Senate, so they're DESPERATE!

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The latest setback for Kyiv’s soldiers

The other big latest setback for Ukraine is the CIA/White House= The New York Times reveals in a story that the CIA have been secretly active in Ukraine since 2014, and have at least 12 spy bases in the country and some near the border.

Everyday that goes by =

Putin was right

Trump was right

All others on the gungho Ukraine bandwagon = 21st Century warmongers.

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Two very good recent reads on Ukraine reality

NHK

Most Ukrainians aim to fight on, but those wanting peace talks double: survey

> Salon

After two grueling years of bloodshed, it's time for peace in Ukraine

Story by Medea Benjamin & Nicolas J.S. Davies

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The other big latest setback for Ukraine is the CIA/White House= The New York Times reveals in a story that the CIA have been secretly active in Ukraine since 2014, and have at least 12 spy bases in the country and some near the border.

Everyday that goes by =

Putin was right

Trump was right

So do you think Ukraine should just give up and surrender its freedom to a dictator?

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Story by Medea Benjamin & Nicolas J.S. Davies

Russian propaganda.

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All because of a bunch of Trump loving, Putin loving, anti-freedom, boneheaded republicans.

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Supply lines will get shorter ...

Clutching at straws there.

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Kyiv is now like their German counterparts after Kursk summer of 43 - permanently on the defensive on many fronts.

In the north-east area of the contact line, RAF are attacking in force simultaneously on FOUR axes.

NW of Avdiivka places are falling like dominos (as the article mentions).

From Kremina to Lyman they push west, with another push on Kupiansk NW into Khakhiv.

Bakhmut and a push of to Chasiv Yar west.

Also, still activity probing W-NW of Marinka south of this.

And yet further in the SW, the South group of forces is counter attacking is the Robotyne sector - which has fallen.

RAF are probing the UAF positions and there are too many hot potatoes for them to juggle at once. Only a matter of time before more places start falling as weak points are found and exploited. The template for the summer/spring campaign season is becoming more evident. Exploit their loss of manpower ruthlessly and don't let them recover.

UAF would be wise to abandon the Donbas altogether and massively withdraw, even west of the Dnieper. Now things are really becoming interesting.

ALSO, first M1 Abrams MBT destroyed on the battlefield near Berdychi - burnt to a crisp as promised. Fate of crew uncertain.

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Boneheaded is pursuing a failed state Ukraine policy that destabilizes the entire world, maybe even fatally.

The former citizens of Ukraine have spoken loudly and fought bravely to achieve their legal independence from a corrupt anti-democratic regime in Kiev. It's time to recognize reality, Ukraine cannot win a war of attrition.

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Putin's rational, otherwise would have used tactical nukes and EMP weapons long ago, ending this matter. His stated enemies are not Ukrainians but rather their Globalist backers and their puppet Kiev regime.

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Putin's rational, otherwise would have used tactical nukes and EMP weapons long ago, ending this matter. His stated enemies are not Ukrainians but rather their Globalist backers and their puppet Kiev regime.

Putin is rational enough to know if he uses his Nukes, Moscow becomes relegated to a city that used to exist.

His stated enemies are not Ukrainians but rather their Globalist backers and their puppet Kiev regime.

Yes, we know Ukraine is only the first country he intends to invade in his campaign.

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Evidence is approx 1/3 of Ukraine's population has LEFT Ukraine since Feb 2022, mainly Europe and Russia. The evidence is more Ukrainians WANT peace every day. The evidence is Ukraine cannot win an attritional war.

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Evidence is approx 1/3 of Ukraine's population has LEFT Ukraine since Feb 2022

You'd almost think their country had been invaded by a foreign nation who started committing war crimes on the citizens or something...

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The evidence is more Ukrainians WANT peace every day.

Yes, they want peace. That is why they are working to execute every Russian soldier in Ukraine, thereby achieving peace.

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Supply lines will get shorter

Now that is some wishful thinking. This isn't the Desert War of the North Africa Campaign with the supply line pendulum swinging back and forth.

On the contrary their supply lines will become more complex as they have to feed men and material in multiple parts of the front simultaneously. Russia is also launching more satellites and getting far wiser and deadlier with strikes to interdict supply.

Russia's logistic tail has received a major boost from Avdiivka with the Donetsk sector shortened and that area can now realise its full potential as a supply hub. Possible rail connections can be re-laid to resupply the entire land corridor. On top of this you have the Russian economy and society on a war footing, with some 3000 plus industrial enterprises working around the clock in two shifts, employing millions of people turning out stuff. Russia produces more shells than all of NATO combined. Factories are having trouble hiring workers in some cases, because while their wages are excellent - soldiers in the SMO zone get paid more!

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Ukraine has never been this close to winning the war thanks to the assistance of its allies. I can see this whole thing coming to an end in the next few days.

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Russia's logistic tail has received a major boost from Avdiivka with the Donetsk sector shortened and that area can now realise its full potential as a supply hub. Possible rail connections can be re-laid to resupply the entire land corridor. On top of this you have the Russian economy and society on a war footing, with some 3000 plus industrial enterprises working around the clock in two shifts, employing millions of people turning out stuff. Russia produces more shells than all of NATO combined. Factories are having trouble hiring workers in some cases, because while their wages are excellent - soldiers in the SMO zone get paid more!

It sounds like Ukraine will probably fall within 72 hours, don't you think?

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JJEToday 

UAF would be wise to abandon the Donbas altogether and massively withdraw, even west of the Dnieper. Now things are really becoming interesting.

We're lucky to have JJE's thoughtful analysis and info.

Imagine, you're UA soldier, no longer in your hardened bunker, out in open, retreating and RAF are sending their close air support and artillery after you? While the tanks and APCs follow.

UA nightmare, either sitting ducks or slowly moving ones

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UA nightmare, either sitting ducks or slowly moving ones

So do you think they should surrender their freedom to the Russian dictator?

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The plan is to neutralize a hostile regime on the Russian frontier which sat astride the traditional invasion routes into European Russia. And which was hosting hostile CIA bases since before 2014 and sparked a civil war. They were offered a peace settlements - first Minsk then Istanbul - both spurned, so it's really their issues and they need to come to terms with the decisions made and accept new territorial realities.

Now the path to victory has never seemed clearer. People allowed themselves to be brainwashed into believing Kyiv could outmuscle Moscow in the long term. That was never going to happen and precisely why the western puppet masters coerced Kyiv into a counter offensive last year, before the window of opportunity had closed forever, as the RF war machine slowly geared up. Now it's Russian steamroller time.

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Peace negotiations needed, but the question of when and under what terms? Above my pay grade.

Remember Putin's enjoying the political damage and fallout he's causing in the West, that's a dividend he wants to see continue, maybe at least until Nov....seems his top priority is a new neutral Kiev regime.

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Peace negotiations needed

No they aren't. Russia can just turn around and go home, and there is peace. No negotiations needed.

Remember Putin's enjoying the political damage and fallout he's causing in the West

So should the Ukrainians just surrender because of that? Is that your suggestion?

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Important to remember Russian people consider US an Oligarchy Globalist run Democracy, Kiev their satellite or puppet. Much like western media calls Putin a dictator.

Neither are perfect obviously and hence Ukraine's proxy cannon fodder status in this great power contest, that's been going on really since the fall of USSR in 1991,

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I'd say a year, two perhaps.

A lot can happen in a year.

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Important to remember Russian people consider US an Oligarchy Globalist run Democracy

Actually, we have no idea what the Russian people think. They don't have freedom of speech and aren't allowed on the internet.

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All because of a bunch of Trump loving, Putin loving, anti-freedom, boneheaded republicans.

Nope, all because of a bunch of neocon warmongers who stoked this crisis want a strategic defeat of Russia and don't give a damn about how many Ukrainians die to get it. There, corrected it for you.

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Nope, all because of a bunch of neocon warmongers who stoked this crisis want a strategic defeat of Russia and don't give a damn about how many Ukrainians die to get it. There, corrected it for you.

So do you reckon the Ukrainians should just give up and get it over with?

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Russian propaganda.

Got proof of that?

Got proof it's not?

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Ukraine Can’t Win the War - Do you think they will lose in more or less than 72 hours?

You should ask General Miley - he came up with the 72 hour thing, but you already knew that :)

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Then why is there still a war going on? Are we supposed to take this Kremlin propaganda at face value?

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Accept that the Ukrainians cannot defeat Russia without more armaments and manpower from the EU and the US etc.

Well, Germany has already announced that it won’t send certain weapons,Is supply has dried up, the EU aren’t able to manufacture at a fast enough pace to resupply Ukraine.

Zelensky backpedals against peace talks as he literally begs the world for weapons that he knows won’t defeat Russia.

Who will fight Zelensky’s war from now after 30,000 Ukrainians have died?

OAPs and children?

Putin has shown restraint having already been in a position to take Kiev.

Putin won’t have NATO and the CIA on its borders.No compromise needed on that.

It’s time to talk

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Russian propaganda.

Got proof of that?

Got proof it's not?

I asked you first...but take your time :) Btw, yesterday you called statements by the head of Ukraine Military Intelligence about Navalny and Iranian missiles " fake news" . Still waiting on your proof that K. Budanov statements were fake and your "sources" were right.

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Reports are coming through from the Marinka area push west of Donetsk, has crashed through north into the south part of Krasnohorivka, the industrial zone of the town.

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Ukrainian troops pull back again as Russia's onslaught pushes ahead in east

The end is near for the Kyiv regime..

Better make capitulations with winner Russia before is too late..

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Supply lines will get shorter and Ukraine's resolve to defeat the fascist will get stronger.

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