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Ukrainians better treated than others displaced by war, Council of Europe says

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By Catarina Demony

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Skin color? Nationality? Cultural similarities? Or their general behaviour in the host country?

As far as I understand only women and children are allowed to leave Ukraine right now so very few male asylum seekers.

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As far as I understand only women and children are allowed to leave Ukraine right now so very few male asylum seekers.

Not true, there are many Ukrainian men who have bribed or escaped their way out. More every month than volunteer to fight. And many won't be going back after the war.

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What this article is saying, should one bother to read it, is Ukrainians got better treatment in the EU zone than other war refugees. This means people from Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya (and Africa in general), Syria, Yemen etc got treated worse in general. More disturbingly, there was a racialist element to the treatment of people fleeing Ukraine and their ultimate treatment. Shameful stuff.

It is basically saying it is like classes on airplane, depending on skin color and ethnicity, with Ukrainians in First Class and everyone else riding coach, in the cargo bay or holding onto the landing gear.

It gets even worse - ethnic minorities are treated as 2nd/3rd class people in that society. When the special military operation kicked off in Feb 2022, there were widespread, documented reports of intense discrimination against Africans, Roma and other minorities. MSM basically papered over this and didn't really get it much airtime; better late than never.

Some of the nastiest incidents involved people tied to electric poles or trees with tape, their faces are smeared with paint and essentially lynched. Even more disturbingly is this widespread, non-isolated behavior is directly related to certain groups, movements and ideologies that are prevalent in that country and which the media/western govts play down. Despicable.

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@Mr Kiplimg

Did Your little Red CCP supporters booklet give you that insight ?

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JJEToday 02:55 pm JST

Some of the nastiest incidents involved people tied to electric poles or trees with tape, their faces are smeared with paint and essentially lynched. Even more disturbingly is this widespread, non-isolated behavior is directly related to certain groups, movements and ideologies that are prevalent in that country and which the media/western govts play down. Despicable.

Doesn't sound nearly as bad as what war criming Russians do to their prisoners, Geneva Conventions be damned.

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If you do an internet search on the subject Ukrainian refugees who are men, you will find that there are hundreds of thousands of them. Interviews invariably go like this: "I support the war... but it's better if I don't have to fight in it."

You will also find that there are draft-age Ukrainian men who have been admitted to Japan. The news media typically shows only young Ukrainian women. The acceptance of all these Ukrainian refugees is a complete reversal of previous Japanese strict refugee policy. But the open door was only opened to Ukrainians.

Further no expense was spared to fund the Ukrainian refugees. Compare the treatment of Noto earthquake victims who got cardboard cubes while Ukrainian refugees got hotel rooms.

Young Ukrainian women were highlighted in the media resulting in many donation campaigns and widespread support for Ukraine by Japanese. Of course this coincided with official LDP policy, which coincided with official US policy.

When one thinks of refugees today, one cannot fail to think of Gaza. One cannot also fail to notice the difference in concern of Kishida and the LDP.

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Because they are Europeans seeking help from fellow Europeans, who view their problem as more immediate and critical.

People going to distant and different part of the world for help are naturally not going to get the same level of sympathy. If the Ukrainians sought refuge in Malaysia, for example, the reception would be a lot less warm.

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Some of the nastiest incidents involved people tied to electric poles or trees with tape, their faces are smeared with paint and essentially lynched.

There is ‘lynched’ or ‘not lynched’

Lynched is a serious accusation. ‘Essentially lynched’ is a dumb phrase.

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Shortly after the start of the war, the African Union said it was disturbed by reports African citizens in Ukraine had been refused the right to cross borders to safety.

For those who forget or missed it, this happened in 2022, when millions were fleeing the country. Again, despicable stuff.

There were some shameful, but all too typical gross incidents of this nature that took place there, indicative of the way that society has lost its moral compass since 2014.

When societies discriminate and ban language, culture, sanction controversial ideology that glorifies and directs it against one minority which is dehumanized, the small step in applying it to others it all too brief.

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JJEToday 04:42 pm JST

For those who forget or missed it, this happened in 2022, when millions were fleeing the country. Again, despicable stuff.

And clearly what is even more despicable is the invasion necessitating that fleeing.

There were some shameful, but all too typical gross incidents of this nature that took place there, indicative of the way that society has lost its moral compass since 2014.

And yet we don't have video of Ukraine electrocuting prisoners or reports of raping them.

When societies discriminate and ban language, culture, sanction controversial ideology that glorifies and directs it against one minority which is dehumanized, the small step in applying it to others it all too brief.

Even more perverse is societies that look the other way while dissidents are killed in prison, on the street, or in foreign countries.

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When societies discriminate and ban language, culture, sanction controversial ideology that glorifies and directs it against one minority which is dehumanized, the small step in applying it to others it all too brief.

I know you won’t reply because you are only here to spout. But just in case, have you been following Russia’s domestic human rights abuses?

Seems like something you might ‘essentially’ be interested in.

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Many reports of Russian soldiers torturing and raping captured Ukraine soldiers.

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wallace, just today I watched a video a video showing small-scale iron devices in the form of a Ukrainian crest of arms for branding Russian prisoners of war. This is a large set of stamps found in the area of captured Ukrainian fortifications.

wallace, stop talking nonsense!

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There have been many media reports including videos of Russians torturing Ukraine soldiers and civilians and yes raping young girls and women.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/30/europe/russia-sexual-violence-occupied-ukraine-intl-cmd/index.html

Ukraine: Rape and torture by Russian forces continuing, rights experts report

https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/09/1141417

The Russian Federation’s Ongoing Aggression Against Ukraine

https://osce.usmission.gov/the-russian-federations-ongoing-aggression-against-ukraine-89/

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https://edition.cnn.com/2024/05/30/europe/russia-sexual-violence-occupied-ukraine-intl-cmd/index.html

In addition to CNN, you need to read the sources of the opposite side! and I assure, the hair on your head will stand up on your head....

CNN is the same scrap heap like wikipedia

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