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U.N. chief says pandemic is unleashing a 'tsunami of hate'

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By EDITH M LEDERER

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The western countries made a lot of money using cheap labor of China. A good thing does not continue forever.

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"The western countries made a lot of money using cheap labor of China. A good thing does not continue forever." True, but the western countries that profited also lifted millions out of poverty. Now that many of them are planning on leaving, China is panicking. But like you said, a good thing does not continue forever.

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Let's be honest though. Accepting more refugees at this critical moment for any nation would be economical suicidal. It's like having your own and your neighbours house on fire, but instead of saving yours, you help your neighbour saving his house instead. The essence of altruism will eventually lead to the downfall of human kind!

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I have seen comments unsupportive of the Chinese Communist Party and I have seen the CCP trying to extend its control over other counties and I have heard that the CCP may be involved in the disappearance of scientists and doctors who tried to warn the world about COVID-19. Does any of that count?

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What is he talking about? He did not cite one example of his claims of 'a tsunami of hate and xenophobia, scapegoating and scare-mongering'

According to the UN, most mainstream media outlets, big tech, etc, anything that goes against the globalist, secular liberal, progressive narrative is hate, xenophobia, scapegoating and scare-mongering and more.

While there might be some of the above floating around, what I see is multitudes of suddenly plunged into joblessness, poverty and bankruptcy people speaking up against their rights to work, assemble, travel, visit their aged relatives, etc. being stripped from them in one fell swoop.

Message to U.N. Secretary-General Antonio Guterres: You elites strip away out livelihoods and rights and you will get a tsunami of protest.

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Most importantly- I suppose the United Nations needs 10 billion dollars to “fight” this newly created “epidemic” of mean words.

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Is it that complicated to acknowledge what UN chief said is sensible and the only way to get out of this mess?

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Is it that complicated to acknowledge what UN chief said is sensible and the only way to get out of this mess?

What? The UN has almost always been ineffective. They cannot do anything but talk and use diplomatic immunity to avoid following local laws.

The only way out of the mess is to start small where there isn't any COVID and spread outward from those places across the entire world. Handle it just like polio - house to house. But that will never happen. Politicians and people who want to earn a living cannot wait that long.

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What? The UN has almost always been ineffective. They cannot do anything but talk and use diplomatic immunity to avoid following local laws.

The UN has been ineffective quite often in taking direct action, but that doesn’t change the fact that what the “UN chief said is sensible and the only way to get out of this mess,” with less meaning the rise in hate.

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*mess

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The UN is getting weak because superpowers are too focus on their domestic agenda and unable to practice reasonable win-win multilateralism.

With this approach we will just go into the wall.

So selfish and despicable!

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Sam Watters:

A good thing does not continue forever." True, but the western countries that profited also lifted millions out of poverty.

Taiwan also lifted millions out of poverty, and that without the slave labour camps, persecution of dissidents and censorship of the CCP. The "lifted millions out of poverty" talking point is one that the CCP loves to use, but it does not stand up to scrutiny.

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The U.N. chief said “anti-foreigner sentiment has surged online and in the streets, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories have spread, and COVID-19-related anti-Muslim attacks have occurred.”

The globalists just can´t stand that mass migration has temporarily stopped or at least reduced, can they. Of course, he has no factual basis for his claim, but he just has to return to the typical propaganda.

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The message from U.N. chief is: stop hate!

Just the contrary of most of the JT posts on COVID 19.

Hopeless!

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The "lifted millions out of poverty" talking point is one that the CCP loves to use, but it does not stand up to scrutiny.

It’s also the talking point of people that are never critical of the capitalist free market.

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The globalists just can´t stand that mass migration has temporarily stopped or at least reduced, can they. Of course, he has no factual basis for his claim, but he just has to return to the typical propaganda.

Kind of like you have no basis for your claim that “globalists,” whatever that means, can’t stand that migration has slowed.

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The western countries made a lot of money using cheap labor of China

Not "the Western countries", but the globalist elite of the Western countries that outsourced production Communist China with cheap labour, no workers rights, and complete disregard for the environment. The people in the West who saw their jobs disappear did not make money from this.

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Not "the Western countries", but the globalist elite of the Western countries that outsourced production Communist China with cheap labour, no workers rights, and complete disregard for the environment. 

You mean free market capitalists? Are you now against the free market?

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I don’t really expect an answer.

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Who are those globalists?

I tried to figure out what this was code for a few months ago. The best I could come up with was that it's a word that some people use to mean the Jews. Others seem to use it as a boogeyman; an ethereal group that they can blame all of society's ills on, allowing them to cast derision on others for not believing in the same boogeyman.

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Not "the Western countries", but the globalist elite of the Western countries that outsourced production Communist China with cheap labour, no workers rights, and complete disregard for the environment.

Trump comes to mind. His factories are all in China right?

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The "lifted millions out of poverty" talking point is one that the CCP loves to use, but it does not stand up to scrutiny.

Sure it does, if you compare how things were for their people at the end of the '70s with how they are now.

But the people were in poverty because of Mao in the first place, so basically the CPP fixed a problem they created themselves. They put their people into poverty, then pulled them out.

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But the people were in poverty because of Mao in the first place, so basically the CPP fixed a problem they created themselves. They put their people into poverty, then pulled them out.

Partly true from what I’ve read. Many of the western and central provinces in were extremely impoverished before the revolution and Mao improved their situation to a point.

They are still far behind the more prosperous cities and provinces further east.

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What? The UN has almost always been ineffective.

True. Since I had contact with news talking about failures from the UN in Somalia, in Rwanda and in Bosnia back in the 1990s, I have been despising the UN for being ineffective in finding solutions. It is no longer the same organization that stood firm in the 1956 Suez Canal Crisis (under Lester B. Pearson) or in other instances up to the 1970s.

Is it that complicated to acknowledge what UN chief said is sensible and the only way to get out of this mess?

Demanding that we go at the bottom of this pandemic would have been the thing to do because that is the only way that the blame game will reach its limits. We are in this mess because we don't push for further access to facts. Worse than that, there is at least one country out there that thinks they can get away by hiding facts from international public eye.

The "lifted millions out of poverty" talking point is one that the CCP loves to use

Speaking of that line, it's staggering that China loves to use that line while Japan went through that phase to greater effect and with a quicker pace within a couple of decades after WW2. I feel that scholars need to talk a lot more about the Japanese economic miracle for a good example of how a country transformed itself in little time to become a juggernaut of world economics while its population does not even compare in size to the US, China or even India.

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Globalism exacerbated this crisis by outsourcing manufacturing and enabling massive amounts of international travel. Now you have people who can't handle this criticism deflecting by bringing up racism. Not surprising, as that's what they always do any time they're criticized.

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"scapegoating"?

Mr. Guterres needs to realize that this global crisis was human-made, and thus preventable. this is not like an earthquake or tsunami. It's like global warming, where finger-pointing, and assigning specific blame are good and encouraged.

Therefore, the specific group of humans responsible in Wuhan and Beijing need to be held accountable as part of a process to prevent it from happening again. My fear is that these efforts to pinpoint the specific people who were engaged in illegal and unethical activities that created this disaster will be conflated by the globalization stakeholders like Guterres as "racist" or "scapegoating," and in the end, nothing will be done.

Nothing was done after SARS. If we had a lot more "scapegoating" then and some harsh preventative action, we would have avoided this current nightmare.

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