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Australia's Victoria state to enter one-week COVID-19 lockdown after fresh outbreak

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The only way to escape the lockdown is to become an Olympic athlete or one of the hanger-ons.

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yes, and the Australian softballers are due here on the 1st of June..... from whereabouts though, I don't know.... various spots I suppose

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You'd think human beings (i.e. politicians and medical experts) would understand that you can never get rid of a virus by locking people in their homes. And to shut down the world economy, which hasn't been done before in 6000 years of recorded history, would make intelligent people question said lockdowns for ulterior motives (i.e. Marxism and the Green New Deal).

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You'd think human beings (i.e. politicians and medical experts) would understand that you can never get rid of a virus by locking people in their homes. 

They do. That's why no-one has claimed this.

And to shut down the world economy, which hasn't been done before in 6000 years of recorded history, would make intelligent people question said lockdowns for ulterior motives (i.e. Marxism and the Green New Deal).

Can you explain how shutting down the world economy (which didn't happen) is going to promote the means of production being seized by the workers of the world? Could you also tell me why workers receiving the full benefits of their labor, rather than a corporation, is a bad thing?

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Victorians and their government seem to love the lockdown. Government is super popular and can do no wrong, whatever they do. Only state in Australia to have such crackdowns and one of the few places in the world. Some businesses lose badly but the majority don’t care and have a holiday at home. The football is still on anyhow as it is an appropriate workplace, but with no live spectators.

However you would think by now they could skip the toilet paper obsession thing

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/7271713/lockdown-anticipation-leads-to-panic-buying-in-victoria/

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Victorians and their government seem to love the lockdown.

They don't love lockdowns, they love living in a country free of covid where they can go about living day to day without worry and without masks and social distancing.

Government is super popular and can do no wrong, whatever they do.

No, the government is popular for making good moves and protecting the people. If you think Aussies are not extremely quick to criticize their government when they don't like it's actions, you clearly no nothing whatsoever about Aussies.

Some businesses lose badly but the majority don’t care

What are you talking about? Australia's economy is roaring right now, and they didn't have anything like the financial pressures the rest of the world did, due to their exceptionally competent handling of Covid.

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RM - You'd think human beings (i.e. politicians and medical experts) would understand that you can never get rid of a virus by locking people in their homes

Wow! Except for the fact that this outbreak are the first cases in three months in Victoria and the rest of Australia remains virus free. Lockdowns do work!

By the way, my Japanese wife and I are booked in for our free vaccination next week at our local clinic on the east coast of Australia. Vaccinations are available for anybody over 50 anywhere in Australia at their local medical center. The virus will not exist in Australia by the end of this year.

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stranger land

Australia’s reaction to the virus is not uniform. NSW has not had any lockdowns like Victoria and their track record against the virus is better. How the government in Victoria that caused the lockdowns and loss of life last year through its own mistakes remains popular with its authoritarian ways to fix it defies logic.

You can spout your economy doing great to all the many businesses suddenly closed for a week (or longer ) still recovering after massive losses last year. I am not sure they are so enthused as you who like many loses nothing.

and anyone who knows anything about Aussies knows there is nothing more Australian or more loved than a ‘sickie’ and the chance to stay home.

However people still don’t trust the government pleas when it comes to not panic buy toilet paper!

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“You'd think human beings (i.e. politicians and medical experts) would understand that you can never get rid of a virus by locking people in their homes. And to shut down the world economy, which hasn't been done before in 6000 years of recorded history, would make intelligent people question said lockdowns for ulterior motives (i.e. Marxism and the Green New Deal).”

Precisely. The Barrington Declaration needs to be implemented.

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“You can spout your economy doing great to all the many businesses suddenly closed for a week (or longer ) still recovering after massive losses last year. I am not sure they are so enthused as you who like many loses nothing.”

Spot on

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The virus will not exist in Australia by the end of this year.

That's a bet I would take in size. The virus will always exist in one form or another and therefore every country will always be vulnerable to new outbreaks, lockdown or not.

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You can spout your economy doing great to all the many businesses suddenly closed for a week (or longer ) still recovering after massive losses last year. I am not sure they are so enthused as you who like many loses nothing

Your opinion seems to be untroubled by facts, so here's just one of many articles about how well the Australian economy is doing.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-australia-economy-gdp-idUSKCN2AV02X

Of course some sectors have, as you say, experienced losses, especially in the travel/tourism and hospitality sectors. Can you point to a single economy worldwide that hasn't experienced losses in those sectors, lockdown or no lockdown? The reason Australian businesses haven't suffered like some other countries is because of the massive financial assistance given to business by the (conservative) Australian Government.

and anyone who knows anything about Aussies knows there is nothing more Australian or more loved than a ‘sickie’ and the chance to stay home.

Oh, spare us. Do you have any more cliches you want to give airtime to?

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Yeah na, it works

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One silver lining to this particular cloud is that the Australian population, or at least the Victorian part of it, is now flocking to get its Covid vaccinations done. Previously take-up has been sluggish, to say the least. We organized ours just before this latest flare-up, and I'm glad we did.

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Precisely. The Barrington Declaration needs to be implemented.

What's precise about it? We have history recorded from well over 6,000 years ago, and the world economy wasn't shut down, and, er, there was no such thing as a "world economy" until like 150-odd years ago.

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As a Melbournian living through this I can attest that in general people support the seven day lockdown and if needed an extended one, in order to quickly return to a no covid state where life continues as normal.

It is the best course of action and most people understand that after having had the last five months free of covid restrictions while watching the US grappling, the UK and Europe grappling and India sinking with covid cases. Clearly elimination of covid is the best response to it and lockdowns achieve that.

For those not living through this but criticizing the lockdown I say thank you for your opinion, but we will take a short sharp lockdown to eliminate community transmission's over letting it spread freely, every day of the week. We demand the politicians instigate these measures for our safety.

I am already vaccinated (first dose) but still support these measures to protect those who are not.

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Peter14Today  05:21 pm JST

As a Melbournian living through this I can attest that in general people support the seven day lockdown and if needed an extended one, in order to quickly return to a no covid state where life continues as normal.

It is the best course of action and most people understand that after having had the last five months free of covid restrictions while watching the US grappling, the UK and Europe grappling and India sinking with covid cases. Clearly elimination of covid is the best response to it and lockdowns achieve that. 

For those not living through this but criticizing the lockdown I say thank you for your opinion, but we will take a short sharp lockdown to eliminate community transmission's over letting it spread freely, every day of the week. We demand the politicians instigate these measures for our safety. 

I am already vaccinated (first dose) but still support these measures to protect those who are not.

How can you attest that people in general support this lockdown? Quite presumptuous of you. Life will not return to normal, if ever, until governments realise that this virus can't be eliminated.

We demand the politicians instigate these measures for our safety. 

Your expectations are way too high. NSW Is the only state that has handled it with much sense, the cruise ship notwithstanding. And even then the death count was a fraction of the lockdown capital Victoria's.

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Welcome to the Australia Olympic softball team!!!!

Bread and Circuses for all!!

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Gooch:

Peter14 can say that most Melburnians support the lockdown because it’s the truth. I note you repeat the canard that we expect to “eliminate” the virus. We do not. We hope, or expect, to control it, until such time as mass vaccination and improved medical treatments render the virus less dangerous. Where do you stand on vaccinations, and if you’re an Australian resident, have you had or arranged yours yet?

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Big Yen

Australia is certainly behaving like its going for elimination, though they may claim otherwise. If not, why the snap lockdowns and heavy fines for non-compliance? It's not rational in the long term because the country can't stay closed off forever, and not everyone can/will be vaccinated.

For mine, I'm a resident of Japan and am not interested in getting vaccinated for the time being, at least until the vaccines have been around for a lot longer and we can see their long-term effects. In any case, vaccination should be entirely voluntary, and there should be no restrictions such as needing vaccine passports on the unvaccinated - especially within a country. After all, vaccinated people are supposed to be protected from getting severely ill, or so we're told.

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If you have no vested interest in Melbourne, Victoria, or Australia, just let it go.

Let Australia and Australians do what it/they want to do — we’re not bothering anyone*, and you needn’t be bothered by what’s going on there.

Well, the Olympic team might ‘bother’ you they travel here.
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Gooch:

Vaccination is entirely voluntary, sport. Why would you try and imply otherwise?

As for vaccination passports, sorry. You’re entitled to exercise your non-vaccination option, but not to put other people at risk because of it. Within a country, maybe, but no-one else is going to want you visiting their country without it. That’s the price you pay for your definition of freedom.

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For mine, I'm a resident of Japan and am not interested in getting vaccinated for the time being

Don't have to worry, you wouldn't be even if you were interested.

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One man coming back from India, one billion dollars. That’s the estimated economic cost of a one week economic shutdown for the state of Victoria. Imagine how many starving kids you could feed with that.

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Apparently according to some here the Australian economy is booming so one billion dollars must be nothing to be concerned about, although I am sure those that are losing part of that one billion may not agree,

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California had extreme lockdowns, but almost the same infection rate as "open" Florida and Texas. Lockdowns may work in some places, but not all.

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DOM woke up.

My comment is based on peer reviewed, published scientific, sociology and psychology papers about the impacts of lockdowns.

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My comment is based on peer reviewed, published scientific, sociology and psychology papers about the impacts of lockdowns.

No it's not. If it was, why would it be so wrong in regards to the situation in Australia? Which peers exactly are reviewing this so-called science on Australia that you refer to?

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