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China refused to provide WHO team with raw data on early COVID cases, team member says

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Beijing has sought to cast doubt on the notion that the coronavirus originated in China, pointing to imported frozen food as a conduit.

Sounds very dubious and makes anything said hard to believe.

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There's a published book from circa 2015 in Chinese about how to controlling Biological Weapons will be the next way to rule the World....

Over the past decade the source of these Global pandemics (from Mild to Dangerous of recent) has been China... this is the CCP experimenting with the way, to influence their way across the World.. and their Globally reaching National Security Law has been just one way this has been revealed to us all.

It is time now, to deal with the CCP - Iran is also impacted by them, and would probably join sides against them for the longer term good - which in reality could happen. Likewise for N. Korea. We as a Global Community can not continue to put up with this behavior, it is time now, to take action against the CCP.

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Let the Chinese Control themselves after the CCP has been removed from power. It will certainly take a transitionary period - but if done with the support of the Global Community, China could rival the US in being the most tolerant Multi-national freely democratic Nation amongst us all!

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If the WHO were to visit certain prisons or consult crematorium records they might fine the names of more than a few witnesses....

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I am also worrying, that big Pharma is seeing this as an opportunity to scare us into regularly being forced to purchase annual inoculation boosters - somewhere they sort of failed with the yearly Flu pandemic they promoted to us....

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Sounds very dubious and makes anything said hard to believe.

Time to doubt so called Nanking massacre too. Lying is not what westerns think what it is for some part of

Asia

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If Governments wish to FORCE us to take these inoculations - then they need to be prepared to accept the risks themselves.

I for one, will, if forced to take such an inoculation - will seek to take a legal written agreement signed by said officials... clarifying benefits to my dependents, should such a forced inoculation go badly against me.

In the UK, I have read of people dying shortly after having received it, and that fact being dismissed as inconsequential... Sorry... that does not make sense! It smacks of a cover up...

I do not wish to be permanently having to take boosters or die for lack or not having taken one because I received the inoculation!.....

I hope you all now see where this is going!!!!

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It is sometimes better to believe in your local Community, and ignore the influence from outside, since that influence does not understand the local balance you live within, and sometimes seeks to disrupt when disruption was never thought of before.

I like people for whom they are, and choose not to like people similarly. It does not matter to me the Color of their Skin, or their Religion, or their Politics, but simply just, how they interact with me - plain and simple.

If we all got on that way, then.. the World would be a whole lot of a better place to be within.

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Sorry but all I can think of is this quote with this WHO guided tour and the CCP. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME

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And in both cases, I wonder why, no one questions the self-centered interests of those so-called "leaders" over those who "follow". Perhaps it is time, for individuals to look at themselves ? And then look to their neighbors ?

If your whole point sits on ignoring the very heavy weight on health care that infectious diseases have, and in nebulous accusations without any proof you should not be surprised they are discarded so easily.

The ones more vocal about the dangers of COVID and influenza are medical and scientific professionals all over the world, it is simply not believable that everybody is "in" a conspiracy to force you to anything. If you are not able to take responsibility for your health that is fine, its your freedom, but it does come with consequences so you wont compromise other people's health with it.

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The whole Convid thing is a stinker !

Of course china wont give crucial data, and the WHO is a joke ! Much like that other Joke the UN.

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Is anyone surprised? Transparency isn't a Chinese thing.

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The same is true of the WHO As in WTF Too little too late.

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Delay, lie, make up data to match their story from OVER a year ago. This is hard work. Cover-ups are hard.

And embarrassing. The truth will come out and Chinese people will be very unhappy. Xi has done well to avoid being thrown out of office, so far.

Why were China's doctors trying to share data early threatened or arrested? Why were the DNA sequences withheld until a Singapore lab/doctor published them?

https://www.pbs.org/video/chinas-covid-secrets-fvxx8y/ is a news show about the ccp-Chinese govt's lies with a timeline.

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I see. Well, as for me I just imagine a scenario where a little too many of those 174 are cases of employees out of a certain laboratory... Would you still hand out the data, with anonymous data points and say , those are only unlucky statistical outliers? Or would you keep the official story alive, prevent investigations for more than a year, put every possible obstacles in the way of those investigating visitors and deny the data handout and try to even play down the rest of the already unsuspicious datasets? Yes....that’s what is probably happening. Or you have a more than very good other explanation....lol

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Shame on the CCP.

We need to find out what happened so we can prevent a future pandemic.

How many people have been affected by this?

How many people have died worldwide?

Suicide, depression, jobs, travel, everything has been affected by this pandemic.

Please tell us what happened, tell the truth!

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Blaming the country that allowed this infectious disease to spread without limit and those countries that reacted in an untimely manner is perfectly understandable.

However, blaming figureheads such as Suga or Trump is not.

Being infected is largely down to your own actions ie being hygienic and avoiding crowds etc.

Avoidable or not for all, at least, we now know the best practices to avoid the virus.

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Being infected is largely down to your own actions ie being hygienic and avoiding crowds etc.

Care to expand on your theory and explain how Australia and New Zealand managed to mostly eliminate the virus based on the activities of the people, rather than the policies set by leadership?

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Care to expand on your theory and explain how Australia and New Zealand managed to mostly eliminate the virus based on the activities of the people, rather than the policies set by leadership?

Er ... islands with limited populations, most populated areas having a limited number of access methods, and having 10x-100x less visitors than other countries annually? AUS dd have about 30% more visitors than Brazil, but 2x more than NZ. Heck, Singapore has almost 2x the visitors of AUS.

Places with small populations, low density and govts tat follow the science could control it.

Just a guess. Could be wrong. Not the first time. We've seen selfish people and denials everywhere.

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Er ... islands with limited populations

Australia has 25 million people.

most populated areas having a limited number of access methods

And yet, the virus got in, and was increasing until there were measures put in place. Yet the claim was that the virus disappeared in these countries due to actions by the people, not the government. So some actions by the people must have led to this reversal in direction and elimination of the virus, regardless of the measures of the government. I'm still waiting for an explanation of what the actions by the people were.

Places with small populations, low density and govts tat follow the science could control it.

I agree that the first two make it easier, but it's the third is essential to actually control the virus. The poster I originally quoted claimed otherwise.

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Care to expand on your theory and explain how Australia and New Zealand managed to mostly eliminate the virus based on the activities of the people, rather than the policies set by leadership?

I guess the answer to that question was "I can't".

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Sorry, Trump dropped the ball. He completely ignored and undermined his medical experts even though his sole expertise is real estate bankruptcy financing and NOT viral pandemics.

That is a demonstrably false statement. Trump did not order covid patients into nursing homes - NY Governor Cuomo and several other Democrat leaders in other states did. Trump merely led the development of a flu vaccine in the shortest period of time in history. Trump was not against mask wearing and social distancing and stated so on numerous occasions. He did refuse to force people to behave the way the central government thinks they should in their personal lives. Recall that Dr Fauci told citizens early in the pandemic that everyone didn’t have to wear a mask during the first critical months of the pandemic while Dems were preoccupied with impeachment - the first time.

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If China is true if its CCP is not double faced. Then why they are hiding the data. After the world knows CCP has abolished the evidences and data. And now this that they are hiding the left data which would actually help to review the virus and much more. Every time China creates a new problem or issue and has been a trouble maker for every nation.

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