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Hackers convention ask U.S. gov't to stay away over Snowden

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"Moss, who is known as The Dark Tangent in hacking circles"

Har!

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Yes, because every single person in the government works for the NSA. Idiots.

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An irreverent crowd of more than 15,000 hackers, researchers, corporate security experts, privacy advocates, artists and others are expected to attend the Las Vegas convention, which begins on Aug. 2.

And the US government probably wants to arrest the entire bunch too!

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Well said, Jeff!

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Buh ha ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, rofl

Tooo funny these people!

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Like having a crime family conference...

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I can never understand why these hackers are respected - and even admired - by so many people. Most of them are nothing less than cyber-vandals (or worse, cyber-criminals) who cause major headaches for computer users around the world. Where do these people think that computer viruses, credit card and identity theft originate from? You got it .... hackers!

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Hackers are usually people who think they are the only ones in the world who should be allowed to work without oversight. Usually while they are attacking someone saying it's a form of oversight.

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@equality and super

Well, said.

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Don't worry, they'll probably have spies and bugs there anycase.

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Good! And lock them out for any future convention. The gov. should have no business on the Defcon.

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Equality: "I can never understand why these hackers are respected - and even admired - by so many people. Most of them are nothing less than cyber-vandals (or worse, cyber-criminals) who cause major headaches for computer users around the world."

Yes and no. In terms of admiration, it's the same with any field or walk of life -- the people have exceptional skills few of us can begin to grasp, let alone utilize. In terms of being criminals, while some undoubtedly engage in illegal activities, some have just aggravated people who engage in illegal corporate and/or government activities and so are LABELLED 'cyber-criminals' or what have you.

In any case, not invited US hackers won't do anything to keep the US government from spying on them. Ironically it'll probably increase any spying activities, if they were to exist at all at such an event.

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So NSA can go scouting for the “best and the brightest" to join their ranks??

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Imagine for a second that some psychopathic left-winger had been elected to the Presidency, this whole NSA thing could easily be turned on the public. Any mention of lefty or Liberal in a negative way in your e-mail, phone conversation, tweet, etc. and someone's knocking at your door at 3 AM in the morning or you're bushwhacked while driving your car.

The same could be said if a psychopathic right-winger was elected. Any mention of conservative or right-winger in a negative way in your e-mail, phone conversation, tweet, etc. and someone's knocking at your door at 3 AM in the morning or you're bushwhacked while driving your car.

The same also can be said if a psychopathic corporate/banker/MIC/NSA/big Pharma etc. puppet had been elected to the.......oh wait......we have had that for 33 years now........KNOCK..KNOCK..

R.I.P. Michael Hastings

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"Where do these people think that computer viruses, credit card and identity theft originate from?"

The government?

On the other hand, where do these things come from...

the ability for Chinese citizens to access otherwise censored internet sites early computer operating systems access to some teachings of Scientology Facebook (maybe you have a point) the ability to print on pieces of toast

People 'hack' computer systems and programs for the same reason that other people 'hack' motorbikes and lawn mowers. Because they wonder if something can be done better or just wonder whether it can be done at all.

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The US "government" agencies have been actively hiring/recruiting "hackers" for at least 5 years and maybe 10yrs massively. Great starting pay around the $80-100K range (Snowden $200k+). People need to remember that sure $80k is a great starting salary (instead of ~$30->$40k) but you are joining a criminal group of people (a cartel) that at some time will be throwing you under the bus --> and if you try to leave it will be like Snowden unless they are able to kill you first (most likely the case).

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Are they fools? Ever hear of a spy?

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