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Once Australia's COVID-19 hotspot, Victoria goes 28 days without an infection

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By Colin Packham

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Yes, the way to go with containing the virus

Act Early, Fast and Hard and thereafter economic life will return

to normal as people go about their daily life and not suspecting the

person nearby might be infected.

6 ( +8 / -2 )

Good on ya, Vic!

8 ( +9 / -1 )

Good job, pretty much all of Australia is nearly virus free now...someone show the indecisive LDP oyaji deadwood that passes for " leadership" here how its done.

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That's good news, without a doubt.

But bear in mind that Victoria had the vast majority of deaths (more than 800 out of 907 to date) and a large slice of the cases, even though Andrews introduced the toughest restrictions in the country., and lied his way through a bungle that claimed his health minister and one senior bureaucrat, with another quitting in disgust over the debacle.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/australia/

NSW, with a larger population and much softer restrictions, lost 53 people to the virus.

-7 ( +1 / -8 )

But bear in mind that Victoria had the vast majority of deaths (more than 800 out of 907 to date) and a large slice of the cases, even though Andrews introduced the toughest restrictions in the country.

At least they fixed it. Unlike one country I know with 250,000 deaths and still acts like COVID19 is a political issue and wearing masks is a violation of their human right.

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"Act Early, Fast and Hard and thereafter economic life will return

to normal as people go about their daily life and not suspecting the

person nearby might be infected."

You seem very optimistic. That's no consolation to the lives destroyed by the excessive measures implemented - against something that is little worse than a flu.

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"Unlike one country I know with 250,000 deaths"

Many with underlying health conditions and co-morbidities. And of course there is a difference between dying of, and with, the virus.

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justaskingToday  03:06 pm JST

But bear in mind that Victoria had the vast majority of deaths (more than 800 out of 907 to date) and a large slice of the cases, even though Andrews introduced the toughest restrictions in the country.

At least they fixed it. Unlike one country I know with 250,000 deaths and still acts like COVID19 is a political issue and wearing masks is a violation of their human right.

That's not the point, and you're not comparing apples and apples. Incompetence and hubris ran rampant in the Victorian government whereas other states managed the situation far better. The numbers speak for themselves.

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At least they fixed it. Unlike one country I know with 250,000 deaths and still acts like COVID19 is a political issue and wearing masks is a violation of their human right.

Yep. The Andrews government recognized its error and introduced the lockdown, which fixed the problem.

But you won't see any acknowledgement of that from certain right-wing posters on this website, despite the fact that all their sky-is-falling warnings about the death of democracy, anarchy in the streets and complete economic breakdown have not come to pass. You also won't see any acknowledgement of the fact that the government they're so keen to see brought to its knees (even if meant inflicting on the people of Victoria ten times the numbers of infections and deaths that we've had) is the only government worldwide so far that I know of, along with New South Wales, to have had the guts to institute an official inquiry into its own management of the crisis. Are there any others?

You also won't see any acknowledgement that the sector where the greatest number of deaths has occurred in Victoria and Australia - the aged care sector - is a Federal responsibility, not a State one. Staffing levels, staffing practices, readiness for anti-Covid measures. Acknowledgement? Zero.

I also haven't seen any equivalent condemnation from the critics of all of those criminally negligent, hapless and/or incompetent governments worldwide that have done far, far worse than Victoria. In the United States, in Europe, in Latin America, people continue to suffer massively greater numbers of infections and deaths, as well as severe, ongoing economic damage. Governmental panic and shambolic responses have resulted in far more deaths both in absolute numbers and per head of population than Victoria has. It's out of control, governments and people have just about given up and are just hunkered down, waiting for a vaccine.

Victoria's Government is a left-wing government. A mildly left-wing one, but enough for the Murdoch empire and the right-wingers in society to hate their guts, and to despise Victorians for electing them. So the success of the Victorian lockdown has really p-d off a lot of these people. The vast majority of Victorians, of course, are delighted. We were looking at a truly serious situation, but it's been averted by the determination of the Andrews government to fix its mistakes, and by a gutsy effort from a population the vast majority of which acknowledges that as a member of a society, you have responsibilities to your community as well as rights. We know how laughable the claim was that democracy, in a middle of the road social democracy like ours, was ever threatened by this lockdown. Anyone who thinks it was, or is, doesn't have much of an idea about what this country is about.

We know we haven't eradicated Covid. We know more cases will probably show up eventually - maybe even tomorrow - most likely either from quarantine breaches or interstate, or even from people getting too complacent and making mistakes. But I'd far rather be in the position to deal with them that we're in now, rather than the truly nightmare scenario we would have been facing if some of the critics had had their way.

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You seem very optimistic. That's no consolation to the lives destroyed by the excessive measures implemented - against something that is little worse than a flu.

Weird that the flu isn’t filling hospital beds like COVID is, but, yeah, it’s little worse than the flu.

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With an ultra strict government, you can achieve all kinds of results. See China for example.

The question is how much do you value individual freedom.

I personally don’t think it should be allowed at any cost to lock down people like the Australian government did. Even one death that resulted from it is a crime.

I prefer the US approach. Sure a ton of people died, but no one was locked down and imprisoned.

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I prefer the US approach. Sure a ton of people died, but no one was locked down and imprisoned

Seems completely reasonable.

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Simian Lane 'I prefer the US approach. Sure a ton of people died, but no one was locked down and imprisoned'

You seem to compare Covid deaths as numbers and not as human lives. Every single death is a tragedy which touches all their loved ones and causes grief and sadness. These people die ALONE in hospitals with no one by their side and buried without a proper funeral. Just look at the number of Covid deaths in the US. Lockdowns save lives. Follow the science and not fake news.

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I prefer the US approach. Sure a ton of people died, but no one was locked down and imprisoned.

There's no lock down in the US, now look where they are. Meanwhile, Victorians are finally free and rejoicing.

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I prefer the US approach. Sure a ton of people died, but no one was locked down and imprisoned.

Dying, vs lockdown (because there was no "imprisoned").

And you prefer dying.

I'm shaking my head here, trying to work out whether you're serious, or whether you just have no idea what you're talking about. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt, and assume the latter.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

My friends and family back home (Melbourne) are very happy.

4 ( +4 / -0 )

Dying, vs lockdown (because there was no "imprisoned"). 

And you prefer dying.

Assuming that Simian Lane is not posting posthumously from A Better Place, he/she/it presumably means other people dying is preferable to Simian Lane being in lockdown.

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Simian LaneToday  05:02 pm JST

I agree, if this was 250,00 dead children lock everything down, but it's not.

Life evolves risk, it's ironic the same generation that lost over a million fighting for freedom were being locked in their homes by their grandchildren's generation supposedly for their good.

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I personally don’t think it should be allowed at any cost to lock down people like the Australian government did. Even one death that resulted from it is a crime.

So who is the criminal and would you like to lock them up?

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I'd go through a lockdown like Victoria did if it meant my area would have the virus temporarily eradicated. Being able to walk around without worry during the/a pandemic is worth it to me.

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I take Being able to walk around rather than be imprisoned anytime.

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I take Being able to walk around rather than be imprisoned anytime.

Sure you do. And the old and the ill can just take their chances, because you're not sacrificing any of your so-called "liberties" for anyone. Especially not the old and the ill.

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