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Trump is a danger to the country and the entire world. The Republicans get a big tax cut for their donors and an anti-abortion justice on the Supreme Court and for them, that is more important than the future of the country.

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Yawn.

untouchable.

even if a Trump grabbed a reporter’s (cough) on camera and yelled I love Putin at the top of his lungs, you couldn’t touch him.

Even Mueller was told to back off and hence has recently disappeared into the shadows.

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Trump book author says his revelations will bring down U.S. president

What a joke, the book will only make his agenda stronger.

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Where's Basstofunk? I'm finally on a later model computer that will let me comment..I thought for sure...anyway, I was going to say it was good to hear what he had to say about crazy people and guns. When credit is due... Here's my thoughts about the latest Trump data. With Trump's call out to a Real Gone Roy Cohn, for his succor in his time of need when Sessions recused himself, he gave us a real 3-D shot of his mind and ethos. Roy Cohn was disbarred after a history of bad behavior, that included his defense of John Gotti, and also working with Joe McCarthy. Some track record. If Trump wants to know where his "Roy Cohn" has gone when he needs him the most, this is a very telling direct line to a mode of thinking that comes from a very dark part of American life. It's about manipulation, any means to an end, (Trump and Cohn were so close that he testified as a character witness in Cohn's trial) After a four-year legal battle, he was later disbarred from the New York bar for "dishonesty, fraud, deceit and misrepresentation". In his disbarment hearings, a panel found that Cohn went to visit multimillionaire Lewis Rosenstiel as he lay in a Florida hospital room “drugged” and “semi-comatose” and held his hand to sign a document that made Cohn the co-executor of his will, according to the Post. So this is the type of person Trump aligns himself with. This tells me that the next book that comes out in five years will include all the back deals, money laundering, mob connections, casinos, debts, off shore shadow corporations, everything that has made this man who he is today. Completely ruthless, and dangerous. He's much worse than you could ever imagine a man coming into the office. And, he's not alone. A whole machine of energy is behind his strategy. Of course Don doesn't need to know the constitution. His game plan has nothing to do with it. I believe Melania's tears when he was elected was her realizing the dream was coming to an end. Freakin' Lincoln is going to break free of his stone pedestal and stomp down on this whole charade.

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Trump runs his crew life a wolf pack and he is the alpha dog. Bannon should have known. Now he has his throat ripped out and looks like a fool.

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Not yet read the book, but if you insist on pulling the president down, much more importantly, who do you replace him with?

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Oh, gosh, I'm so shocked and shaken that a man would say what he needs to in order to get the story...like every other reporter in the history of Journalism.

Trump and Co. let this man wander at will through the West Wing without an escort because they thought he would write a nice piece of hagiography. Their mistake.

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Not yet read the book, but if you insist on pulling the president down, much more importantly, who do you replace him with?

Lotsa reasons for Trump to go - not so much of a "pull him down" analogy as "removing the deciding Jenga piece." There are rules regarding succession - it will be Pence.

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And Pence, who knows how to work in the political arena, will get his agenda moving through congress rather than being an ineffective blowhard.

Which do you prefer?

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Trump is a danger to the country and the entire world.

Because he doesn’t follow the liberal globalist agenda? Wow, that’s just outrageously bad! How could he? How dare he put America and its people first! That’s just treasonous!

asThe Republicans get a big tax cut for their donors and an anti-abortion justice on the Supreme Court and for them, that is more important than the future of the country.

What? Lol

Oh, gosh, I'm so shocked and shaken that a man would say what he needs to in order to get the story...like every other reporter in the history of Journalism.

Given Wolff’s history as being less than credible, he even admits a lot of what he wrote is from his own personal recollections, that’s something we can all go on. Lol

Trump and Co. let this man wander at will through the West Wing without an escort because they thought he would write a nice piece of hagiography. Their mistake.

Naw, the guy saw an opportunity, he took it, he’s already to be proven from other publications less than trustworthy or at the very least, his words should be taken with a tad hint of skepticism.

Lotsa reasons for Trump to go - not so much of a "pull him down" analogy as "removing the deciding Jenga piece." There are rules regarding succession - it will be Pence.

I doubt it will even come to that, but let’s say for arguments sake it were to come to that. The Dems would be in an even worse situation then they are now. Even Pelosi knows that Pence could be a huge threat to the Democrats. A ultra-strong conservative, a deeply religious man, respected by evangelicals, a skilled and real politician, polished, bring it on, seriously. Lol

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Wolff, is nothing but a cheap lowdown loser trying to make a buck with his lies.

Donald Trump is a great president, a good businessman that has accomplished much in the past year - look at the DOW. Trump supports our military, Trump supports our people, America first. Trump supports our industries and agriculture to Make America Great Again!

I am proud that Donald Trump is our president, I am proud to be an American.

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Trump ain't going anywhere. I was amazed on my recent trip to the US, he is even more popular among "common folk". Of course idealogues and the liberal elite hate him even more but they are at the fringes and have nothing to offer except Trump-hate. Believe it or not even traditional-Democrat minorities would prefer a good job and a future instead of welfare, and he is the first president in a long time to focus on that issue.

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bass4funkToday  08:30 pm JST

globalist

I wondered how long it would take the dog-whistles to come out.

I expect there are likely a few untrue things in the book and I'm highly skeptical that this book could possibly bring down Trump when all the big promotional excerpts we've seen so far just confirm what anyone who has been paying attention already knows or suspects. It's good to approach the book with a healthy skepticism. That said...

"Michael Wolff is a total loser who made up stories in order to sell this really boring and untruthful book," Trump said. "He used Sloppy Steve Bannon, who cried when he got fired and begged for his job. Now Sloppy Steve has been dumped like a dog by almost everyone. Too bad!"

Trump's predictable response basically confirms that whatever details turn out to be false, the thrust of the book is almost certainly true. He can't refute it with facts, arguments, or competence, so he just tosses out every insult he can think of at anyone he sees attached to it. Trump doesn't know how to lead, he's just a bully who lashes out when he doesn't get the attention he wants.

I mean, just how heartless does a person have to be to think dumping a dog is routine enough behavior to use as a metaphor? Dogs are great, you don't dump a dog. Sad.

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I don't think the author really understands the party that brought us Dan Quayle, George Bush, Sara Palin, and Donald Trump. They love dense politicians.

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If the economy stays strong, Trump is untouchable just like Clinton was.

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look at the DOW.

Obama nearly tripled the DOW.

Trump supports our military

Trump said POWs are losers for being captured.

Trump supports our people

Trump owes our people tens of millions for his fake university and engaged in discrimination against minorities.

America first.

Trump imports cheaper foreign workers for his resorts.

Trump supports our industries

Trump manufactures in China.

to Make America Great Again!

Sounds pretty empty, but there's no law against saying it.

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Well, the tried to get Trump with sexual assault allegations, then they tried the Russians-stole-the-election angle and now there’s a “book” telling us all kinds of evil things about a Trump. The Left will stop at nothing. Just beware the Law of Unintended Consequences. The #Me, Too movement which pushes women to recall “sexual harassment” incidents from the last century has succeeded in making it very difficult for women to get hired. The Left ( a very vocal minority) just assumes that the majority of the country will just go along with their nonsense but in reality could be pushing the country towards more conflict——and it’s conflict the Left will lose.

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How would Trump know whether the book was boring? He hasn't read it bevause it hasn't been available. Even if it had been available, it's not a picture book, so Trump wouldn't have been interested anyway.

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The end of Trump as POTUS is inevitable. Everyone has their limits and when the proof is irrefutable, he will fall. It needs to be done so that the US can get back on its feet again and walk proud. In one year, the US has lost all the respect that Obama managed to rebuild after Bush's turn at damaging the country, and has become the laughing stock of the world all thanks to one man, Donald Trump, AKA the loser-in-chief. Idiots like this clown should never again be able to lead companies, let alone countries.

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I think that it will take more than a book to bring down an American President.

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Pence?

Be careful what you wish for!

Gary

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Trump runs his crew life a wolf pack

Sounds more like they are opening windows after Trump fouls the air, won’t do his homework or throws a tantrum and storms off to bed to watch Fox News with a cheeseburger.

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No one is ‘wishing’ for pence - we’ll deal with him when he’s president, including being just as obstructionist to him as to trump. And neither is pence a reason to not boot trump. Trump is incompetent and therefore needs to be removed. If it turns out the next guy is also incompetent and needs to be removed, so be it. We’ll cross that bridge when we come to it.

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Ex_Res

Yes, true. To bring down the current POTUS, it will take a stupid son-in-law, a former FBI chief named Mueller (who was appointed by Bush), a large group of women who were sexually assaulted, the forced release of tax returns, Bannon, Manafort, Papadopoulos, illegal business dealings, and a book.

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I don't think the author really understands the party that brought us Dan Quayle, George Bush, Sara Palin, and Donald Trump. They love dense politicians

Buddy, don’t even go there, the Democrats list of incompetents reaches the globe twice.

Obama nearly tripled the DOW.

In an alternate universe, probably, more than likely.

Trump said POWs are losers for being captured.

He meant McCain, specifically.

Trump owes our people tens of millions for his fake university and engaged in discrimination against minorities.

So you don’t think going to a place like Harvard and paying over $50K a year is not a ripoff? Why so much and what can I get for that money I can’t get at a cheaper public college institution? And if you lived in the 70’s in NYC you might be cautious as well. Sorry, but the mafia and people like Frank Lucas were heavily involved, deeply in the drug trade that costed thousands of lives, squatters everywhere, so I don’t blame Trump for doing that, now of course it’s easy to scream racism, makes suing much easier. Color has nothing to do with it, Whites we’re doing the same, the difference is, they sold the high end drugs and the Blacks street drugs, more prevalent, cheaper, easier and more accessible to obtain. Stop with the race issue, it’s falling on deaf ears.

Trump imports cheaper foreign workers for his resorts.

Has nothing to do with employing Americans and by the way, how many Americans do you know would take those jobs? But skilled foreign workers would.

Trump manufactures in China

Yes, he doe both and China as well, it’s a win, win for both.

Sounds pretty empty, but there's no law against saying it.

Yes, we can was equally empty, but it didn’t stop people from saying it.

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Trump book author says his revelations will bring down U.S. president

I don't blame the muppets for wanting Trump to go, I just hope they don't lose their stuffing when this turns out to be more fake news.

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"Michael Wolff is a total loser ..."

Presidential vocabulary. What is he, 12 years old?

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In-depth reporting from the BOROWITZ REPORT:

White House Staff Forced to Act Out Michael Wolff Book for Non-Reading President

January 4, 2018

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Donald J. Trump, legendary among U.S. Presidents for his aversion to reading, demanded on Thursday that members of his White House circle act out Michael Wolff’s new book, “Fire and Fury,” in a command performance in the Oval Office.

According to those who witnessed the dramatic presentation, Jared Kushner played the role of Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump played the role of Ivanka Trump, and Sarah Huckabee Sanders played Steve Bannon.

Sources who sat through the private performance of “Fire and Fury” said that Sanders’s portrayal of Bannon was particularly impressive. “Sarah’s a natural,” one source said. “At the end of the day, acting is just lying.”

But the performer who “stole the show,” according to one source, was Eric Trump, who was cast in the role of his father. “Eric played his dad like a bumbling, spoiled idiot who couldn’t do anything right,” the source said. “It was the role of a lifetime for him.”

The President, who sat stone-faced as the spectacle unfolded, became increasingly angry and agitated, especially as he witnessed Kellyanne Conway’s scathingly sarcastic portrayal of herself. Reportedly, after Conway mimed putting a finger gun to her head for the fifth time, Trump grabbed his remote and tried to turn her off.

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Michael Hymie Wolff is a bottom feeder who wrote a piece of garbage just to make money. 

Funny it is how those types naturally gravitate around Trump, are accepted into his circle, and given immediate access. Why might that be?

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Obama nearly tripled the DOW.

In an alternate universe, probably, more than likely.

The DOW was at 8,000 when Obama took office. It was at over 20,000 when he left office.

Sorry. A pity Fox Business didn’t tell you about this and you lost out.

Never mind. I’d just recommend looking at a wider range of sources. It can be useful.

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Once the stock market stabilized, it went on to experience the second-longest bull market in U.S. history, a trend that continues today. The Dow closed at about 7,949 on Inauguration Day in 2009, and about 19,732 on Obama’s last full day in office. This represents a 148 percent increase over eight years.

http://checkyourfact.com/2017/08/02/fact-check-did-the-stock-market-nearly-triple-under-obama/

Kuddos Obama! ROFL! #facts give me a headache. Don't even go there. Smh.

Trump said POWs are losers for being captured.

Which is repugnant coming from a draft-dodger, no matter to whom he was specifically referring. When I was covering the Battle of Fallujah, the grunts expressed the most fear about being captured. I live about 45 minutes from Camp Pendleton, and when I'm in a diner and hear Marines talking, they express fear about being taken prisoner.

So you don’t think going to a place like Harvard and paying over $50K a year is not a ripoff

While this may be a valid point, it is absolutely irrelevant in relation to this:

Trump owes our people tens of millions for his fake university and engaged in discrimination against minorities

This:

Trump imports cheaper foreign workers for his resorts.

Has nothing to do with employing Americans and by the way, how many Americans do you know would take those jobs? But skilled foreign workers would.

demomstrates its own lack of logic. Trump imports cheap labor to work at his resorts when Job placement agencies in those areas have literally thousands of workers looking for those exact jobs.

https://www.google.co.jp/amp/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-mar-a-lago-visas-foreign-workers-america-first-florida-club-a8038366.html%3famp

Yes, he doe both and China as well, it’s a win, win for both.

It's a lose-lose for Americans that want a manufacturing job. Didn't Trump rail on China for "stealing" American jobs? How can anyone claim it's good that Trump is putting America first make the above comment?

This is almost as easy as posting others comments that demonstrate their utter lack of credibility. Maybe I should do that again.

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Michael Hymie Wolff is a bottom feeder who wrote a piece of garbage just to make money.

Wow! You are a fast reader. It only came out about 48 hours ago. You must have been at the head of the queue.

It seems quite a few Trump supporters couldn’t wait to get their hands on this book, read it, and post their opinion on it.

Impressive. On the weekend as well. I was drinking beer and watching football.

They are examples to us all.

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It seems quite a few Trump supporters couldn’t wait to get their hands on this book, read it, and post their opinion on it.

They don't need to read it because they get their talking points from Fox and Breitbart. It's much easier than reading, just ask semiliterate, I-like-pictures Trump.

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Not yet read the book, but if you insist on pulling the president down, much more importantly, who do you replace him with?

Any non-democrat would be better. Someone who can repeal the ACA, please.

Actually, the way it works is spelled out in the US Constitution. The VP becomes President and the Speaker of the House becomes VP. The Speaker's position is back filled in the house following their rules and his/her state elects a new house representative. Moving from Speaker to VP is really a down-grade, unless that person wants to run for President.

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@bassforfunk

Super lib commented

Trump owes our people tens of millions for his fake university

You replied

So you don’t think going to a place like Harvard and paying over $50K a year is not a ripoff?

I have to say that of all the crazy stuff you have posted in defense of Trump since his election, this is by far the most bananas. It is valuable though to have your comments as it reveals just how detached from the real world Trump supporters are and how you will do anything to support him, even completely defying logic.

So let's break this down.

Do you know what 'high pressure sales tactics' are? They are well-known, well-documented techniques for persuading people to part with their money and buy something they do not really want or need. One of the key techniques this: you offer someone something for free that piques their interest. when they attend your course/lecture/seminar or whatever, instead of actually giving them any information, you spent the entire time telling them that if they pay you just a small amount of money, you will let them in on a secret.

A proportion of your audience will take up the offer and decide to spend the $50, $100 or whatever. Then, once they've spent the money, instead of actually revealing the secret, you spend the entire time telling them that now, if they pony up $1000 they will be let in on the 'real secret'.

This is psychologically extremely clever. If the mark walks away without buying the thousand dollar course they have wasted $100. However, cognitive dissonance does not allow them to believe they are stupid enough to have paid $100 for no reason. They don't want to waste the money they have already sunk, so they take the plunge and go further, thinking that this will justify the expense.

Of course, once they pay the thousand dollars, the special course consists of nothing more than sales patter to convince them that if they really want to find out the 'final' truth, they need to stump up say, $30,000. Now it's even more difficult to say no, or they will have to admit to themselves that they have just wasted $1000. And of course the $30,000 course still does not magically transform the buyer (who can ill-afford to lose the 30-thousand) into a real estate magnate.

These are the techniques allegedly used by Trump University. These accusations are documented by Trump University employees in the depositions given to the court. This is all public knowledge. What's worse is that these fraudulent up-selling techniques were, according to the depositions, combined with attempts to get people to max out their credit cards to pay for this nonsense. This information is again, all in the court depositions.

You might think the depositions are false, maybe someone with an ax to grind, but the man you wanted to be the leader of the "free world", the man who you seem so determined to defend all costs, paid $25 million to settle so you can't pull the 'nothing burger' response here.

It's utterly unbelievable that a guy who behaves like this is not only now the most leader man in the world, but also has the support of right-wing Christians who see themselves as upstanding moral people who would not trick someone out of a dime.

The only reason that Trump University is not a bigger issue is that it has been swamped by the continuous stream of craziness that has happened before and since.

$25 million to settle fraud for a "University" allegedly run on well-known pressure selling principles with absolutely no academic content. And your response is:

"Well, it costs $50,000 to study at Harvard, so that's just as bad, isn't it?"

Are you saying that Harvard also uses psychologically-based up-selling techniques and escalation to scam people into buying something of no value? Is that really what you are saying?

If you want to defend your guy at all costs, then that is your right, but just remember that the rest of us can see that your arguments do not really stand up.

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Jpn: Brilliant. Of course, we both know you'll get an irrelevant response, if you get one at all.

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garymalmgrenToday  09:38 pm JST

Pence?

Be careful what you wish for!

Pence is a regressive religious fanatic, but we can all be fairly confident he won't personally enact an extinction-level event for the human race. We have people sincerely questioning if Trump will start a nuclear war because someone in North Korea called him a name or because he doesn't like the news about the Mueller investigation. So yeah, I'll take Pence over Trump no question.

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A VP becoming president with a congress in a blue tide would halt the conservative agenda at its feet - not that that hasn't happened anyway even with a GOP congress. I mean, what is, conceivably (meaning without congressional rule tricks) up next?

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The replies on here are mind boggling.

We truly do live in some bizarre post truth, opinion as fact, blindly aligned to one side, anti-science, anti-intellectual world.

Unqualified Reality TV Host as POTUS (which should be enough ignoring all the other issues), flat earthers making a come back, "raw" water fads, Wi-Fi is making my brain melt... I don't think idiocracy was suppose be a documentary, but its looking like its more predictive than intended.

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The only thing this book is sure to bring down is democracy. It seems acceptable now that when you don't like the president's character, you can just proceed on a witch hunt, do some tabloid reporting, and try to get the president impeached. Scores of people don"t like Trump--I get that. Hey, I don't even like him. But enough Americans liked him enough to get Trump into office. Those Americans have a right to their vote. Going about trying to impeach the president because you don't like the outcome of the election says one thing: screw you Americans who voted that way; and screw your right to your vote. Where the hell is democracy in that kind of behavior and attitude? I am sure millions of Americans didn't like the presidents I voted for in past elections; but we are supposed to be a democracy, and if my nominee doesn't win, so be it. That's democracy. I can tough it out for four years and then head back to the poles again. This whole circus that has become washington--not because of Trump, but because of liberals who want to cry and bitch and protest and try to dig up dirt on any one they don't like--is simply pathetic and undemocratic.

This book confirms one thing in my mind about Trump: he was right about the Washington establishment. Trump has rocked the boat to such a degree that the entrenched politicians/ crooks are doing everything under the sun to get him out.

Go ahead stupid liberals. Run out and buy this book. Donate your money to the initiative to undermine democracy. Go ahead and support the entrenched Washington cronies. This book is sure to sell out because of your herd mentality. Every page you turn in orgasmic ecstacy says yes to disregarding other Americans who dare to think for themselves and exercise their opinions at the poles, yes to being able to impeach presidents because we simply don't like them.

The Clintons are way more criminalistic than Trump. But I think what we are seeing is a glimps of America as it would look run by democratic libtards. It looks scary. I guess the next president won't stand a chance if he isn't liked by the libtards. They will protest violently, and sneak around trying to dig up dirt. This Wolf guy has no shame. He's just heading the agenda of the libtards, and is going to make a personal fortune in the meantime.

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liberal globalist agenda? Many conservatives are globalists too (Cheney, Bush, etc.) just saying.

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Watch Trump get re-elected in a landslide in 2020.

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I would point more to the CRIMINAL ACTS of Trump and his family -- these are what will bring him down. In Muller We Trust!

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The only thing this book is sure to bring down is democracy. It seems acceptable now that when you don't like the president's character, you can just proceed on a witch hunt, do some tabloid reporting, and try to get the president impeached

I don’t think it’s particularly new. The current president wanted to bring down the last president by buying into a sub-tabloid crackpot conspiracy theory known as birtherism. Other gibbering lunatics on the right thought he was unfit to be president because he was the spawn of beelzebub.

Calm down. It’s nothing new. In fact, it’s actually saner.

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The only thing this book is sure to bring down is democracy. 

Mr. Nodall - It's a book, by a journalist. This is what journalists do. Not having read it and without insider knowledge, I can't judge it's veracity, but it is simply a book by a journalist.

Now, if Trump could please produce his long-form birth certificate to prove he was born in America....

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Kuddos Obama! ROFL! #facts give me a headache. Don't even go there. Smh.

Yes, facts, please don’t ever let them stand in your way, my motto.

I usually would never quote fake news CNN, but this time...yeah, why not....

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/04/investing/dow-25000-stocks-wall-street/index.html

The market milestone comes barely a month after the Dow cracked 24,000 for the first time. The 121-year-old index has spiked nearly 7,000 points, or 36%, since President Trump's election, an incredible move in such a short period.

Well tie me to a tree and slap me with jelly and jam! Pretty good job for a mentally impaired man. ROFL!

Which is repugnant coming from a draft-dodger, no matter to whom he was specifically referring.

He wasn’t the only President that was a draft dodger.

While this may be a valid point, it is absolutely irrelevant in relation to this:

No, it’s relative to the question that libs can never give me an answer to.

demomstrates its own lack of logic. Trump imports cheap labor to work at his resorts when Job placement agencies in those areas have literally thousands of workers looking for those exact jobs.

Yes, one hand washes the other and the other can’t surfive without the other and since that helps Americans also in the long run is a good thing. Healthcare 31K new jobs, Construction 30Kjobs and Manufacturing 25K and all in December of 2017. Go Trump! 2020 part II Trump coming up.

It's a lose-lose for Americans that want a manufacturing job.

Didn't Trump rail on China for "stealing" American jobs? How can anyone claim it's good that Trump is putting America first make the above comment?

This is almost as easy as posting others comments that demonstrate their utter lack of credibility. Maybe I should do that again.

Yes, it would seem the left of it.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/trump-economy-improves-164926081.html

Pence is a regressive religious fanatic, but we can all be fairly confident he won't personally enact an extinction-level event for the human race.

And neither would Trump, but either way if Pence were to get the job, he would carry on the Trump agenda, so if Liberals want to get a case of hot foot and indigestion, go for it!

We have people sincerely questioning if Trump will start a nuclear war because someone in North Korea called him a name or because he doesn't like the news about the Mueller investigation. So yeah, I'll take Pence over Trump no question.

Stay away from CNN and Rachel Maddow, we will all be here tomorrow, but if Kim wants to threaten the US, as Trump said, he has a bigger button and it works. For someone supposedly deranged, the guy is pretty funny. Lol

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Now, if Trump could please produce his long-form birth certificate to prove he was born in America....

But why? We all know Trump was born in America. Just like we all know Obama was and the whole question about his citizenship was based on racists who were pissed a Blackman was in office. So your argument is basically Trump did this to Obama so let's do it to Trump. In the end, everyone is just trying to score political points for their "team". Nothing is getting done. Liberals need to be honest and just admit that, just as people didn't like Obama simply because of his skin color, liberals don't like Trump simply because he's rich, arrogant, and narcissistic. Their hatred can't have anything to do with his policies because they been foaming so much at the mouth that they even haven't paid attention to his policies. All this book is doing is attacking Trumps character. Here's a thought: how about liberals shut up for, say, one year and then go after Trump. If he's as stupid and unfit for office as people say he is, then Trump will dig his own grave. But as it stands I can't tell through the storm of vitriol and hate. Newscasts that are supposed to report objective news are instead dedicating 25 hours, 8 days a week to a smear campaign.

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Yes, facts, please don’t ever let them stand in your way, my motto

We know.

Moving on.

I usually would never quote fake news CNN, but this time...yeah, why not....

http://money.cnn.com/2018/01/04/investing/dow-25000-stocks-wall-street/index.html

The market milestone comes barely a month after the Dow cracked 24,000 for the first time. The 121-year-old index has spiked nearly 7,000 points, or 36%, since President Trump's election, an incredible move in such a short period.

Well tie me to a tree and slap me with jelly and jam! Pretty good job for a mentally impaired man. ROFL!

While this may be a valid point, it does nothing to refute the fact that the stock market tripled under Obama. That is what we were debating, not whether the market has done well under Trump. This is a prime example of obfuscating because one cannot refute the facts provided. ROFL! Don't even go there homie. My lord! Smh. No wonder Dems lost 1,000 legislative seats.

He wasn’t the only President that was a draft dodger.

Okay. However, it does nothing to refute the fact that Trump made that repugnant comment about POWs. Another attempt at obfuscation. Not on my watch homie. Kuddos!

No, it’s relative to the question that libs can never give me an answer to.

The OP was that Trump owes millions to people because of the fraud he perpetrated through Trump University. Your response was to say Harvard is also overpriced, which was irrelevant to the fact that Trump perpetrated fraud through Trump University. This is the third attempt at obfuscation. I better start writing these down lest I forget. LOL. Smh. No wonder repubes lost that senate seat in Bama.

Yes, one hand washes the other and the other can’t surfive without the other and since that helps Americans also in the long run is a good thing. Healthcare 31K new jobs, Construction 30Kjobs and Manufacturing 25K and all in December of 2017. Go Trump! 2020 part II Trump coming up.

Attempt number four at obfuscation. None of this refutes the fact that Trump imports cheap labor to work at his resorts instead of hiring from the thousands of Americans looking for exactly the kinds of jobs he is using foreign labor for, which is a prime example of him putting himself before America. MAGMA!

Stay away from CNN

Unless you are citing CNN in an attempt to obfuscate. LOL.

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Mr. NoidallToday  12:50 am JST

Scores of people don"t like Trump--I get that. Hey, I don't even like him. But enough Americans liked him enough to get Trump into office.

"Enough" people. Quite right. Not "the" people.

Those Americans have a right to their vote. Going about trying to impeach the president because you don't like the outcome of the election says one thing: screw you Americans who voted that way; and screw your right to your vote.

Sorry, who has ever actually stated explicitly that they want Trump impeached just because of the election result? That attitude would be so ridiculous that it sounds like a deliberate misrepresentation of Trump's opponents' views.

Where the hell is democracy in that kind of behavior and attitude?

Here's the democracy - there is zero chance of impeachment ever being voted on in Congress if "that kind of behaviour and attitude" is all they've got.

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Hope it does bring him down and locked up

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Sam WattersJan. 6  09:13 pm JST

The Left ( a very vocal minority) ...

It was a very vocal minority that got Trump elected. Some of them were blowing off about how if he lost they would be camped out in Washington with their guns.

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Just like we all know Obama was and the whole question about his citizenship was based on racists who were pissed a Blackman was in office

And the top racist in the birthed movement is now president.

liberals don't like Trump simply because he's rich, arrogant, and narcissistic.

We don't care that he's rich. Arrogant and narcissistic, yes we care about that. More importantly, we care that he is inept, unintelligent, and unqualified, which is all reflected in what we care about most: his regressive, fear-mongering policies.

Their hatred can't have anything to do with his policies because they been foaming so much at the mouth that they even haven't paid attention to his policies

Really? We haven't? If you say so.

Here's a thought: how about liberals shut up for, say, one year and then go after Trump.

So we should sit by and watch him run the country into the ground even further because your opinion is he hasn't done enough damage already? That's called complacency,

If he's as stupid and unfit for office as people say he is, then Trump will dig his own grave.

He is already digging his own grave. Is it that difficult to see?

But as it stands I can't tell through the storm of vitriol and hate. Newscasts that are supposed to report objective news are instead dedicating 25 hours, 8 days a week to a smear campaign.

Newscasts reporting on Trump's own words and actions is definitively not a smear campaign. It's called doing their jobs.

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Mr. NoidallToday  04:59 am JST

Here's a thought: how about liberals shut up for, say, one year and then go after Trump.

How about conservatives shut up for a year as well? Think you could give it a go?

Meanwhile, from The Independent...

Mr Trump also called Mr Wolff a “fraud” and the book “a complete work of fiction”, saying that “he doesn’t know me at all” and said that he had not been interviewed in the White House as Mr Wolff had said.

Okay, and then...

He later admitted that he had spoken to Mr Wolff during his presidential campaign.

You just couldn't make this stuff up. Although Trump obviously can.

Answering a question about why he saw the need to tweet about his mental state, Mr Trump said that he had attended “the best college” and was an “excellent” student. 

Any academic transcripts floating around? It would be interesting to see just how... "excellent."

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katsu78 - I wondered how long it would take the dog-whistles to come out.

Why is it that only Democrats and Hillary-worshippers hear these so-called dog-whistles?

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And the top racist in the birthed movement is now president.

Like I said, these types of arguments are circular and only serve as a distraction.

We don't care that he's rich. Arrogant and narcissistic, yes we care about that. More importantly, we care that he is inept, unintelligent, and unqualified, which is all reflected in what we care about most: his regressive, fear-mongering policies.

Because you don't like his choice of vocabulary? Besides, I don't think he's ever debated his expertise about the office. His whole campaign was based on the fact that he wasn't a politician. And that's what the American people wanted last November.

Really? We haven't? If you say so.

Yes, I say so.

So we should sit by and watch him run the country into the ground even further because your opinion is he hasn't done enough damage already? That's called complacency,

That's a bit over the top. I actually saw a recent report that said never has it been seen before that a president has been disliked so much while at the same time jobs are up, the stock market is up, and the overall economy is improving. And you have the nerve to call Trump fear-mongering?

He is already digging his own grave. Is it that difficult to see?

Well people like you already placed one of his feet in the grave way before 1/1/17.

Newscasts reporting on Trump's own words and actions is definitively not a smear campaign. It's called doing their jobs.

I take it, then, you're a whole-hearted believer and supporter of CNN. And before you try to infer something I didn't say--no! I am not a watcher of Fox or whatever other right-wing arm of the media is out there.

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never has it been seen before that a president has been disliked so much while at the same time jobs are up, the stock market is up, and the overall economy is improving.

Were you asleep for the last administration?

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Were you asleep for the last administration?

No I wasn't asleep. But after Bush, any president would appear spectacular.

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after Bush, any president would appear spectacular.

And even so, he was disliked so much while at the same time jobs were up, the stock market was up, and the overall economy was improving.

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Like I said, these types of arguments are circular and only serve as a distraction

It wasn't an argument, it was a statement of fact.

Because you don't like his choice of vocabulary?

Because he barely has a vocabulary.

Besides, I don't think he's ever debated his expertise about the office. His whole campaign was based on the fact that he wasn't a politician.

And that his self-claimed intelligence and business acumen would allow him to lead well.

And that's what the American people wanted last November.

No, it wasn't. If this were correct, Trump would have also won the popular vote.

And you have the nerve to call Trump fear-mongering?

Its not nerve, it being well informed.

Well people like you already placed one of his feet in the grave way before 1/1/17.

People like me simply pointed out all of Trump's words and actions that showed he put his own foot in that grave he dug.

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And even so, he was disliked so much while at the same time jobs were up, the stock market was up, and the overall economy was improving.

Ok then. So you're saying the liberals demanding Trump's head are no better in their vitiol than racists who wanted Obama's head. Great! thanks for pointing that out.

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*vitriol

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I take it, then, you're a whole-hearted believer and supporter of CNN.

I don't watch CNN, but nice attempt an at inference.

And before you try to infer something I didn't say--no! I am not a watcher of Fox or whatever other right-wing arm of the media is out there.

So where do you get your info?

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So where do you get your info?

There is no single source. You've got to sift through all of them with your brain, not your heart, because they're all loaded with biases, slants, and propaganda.

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There is no single source. You've got to sift through all of them with your brain, not your heart, because they're all loaded with biases, slants, and propaganda

Agreed 100%.

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Ok then. So you're saying the liberals demanding Trump's head are no better in their vitiol than racists who wanted Obama's head.

It's been shown to be a winning strategy. Hate the game, not the player.

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Agreed 100%.

Me too. And I also don't watch CNN, other than when in hotel rooms sometimes.

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I never said I was a supporter of Trump. I am a supporter of the demcratic system. I just think this book, and the way most of the so-called liberals are going after Trump is wrong and very undemocratic. You guys have already reached a verdict before the investigation has concluded. Step back and breathe for a moment. There's three years left, plenty of time to impeach if that is what it comes to. But you guys are like blood-thirsty hounds from hell.

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I never said I was a supporter of Trump. I am a supporter of the demcratic system. I just think this book, and the way most of the so-called liberals are going after Trump is wrong and very undemocratic.

Which specific tenets of Democracy do this book and those going after Trump contradict? You can't just claim something is undemocratic and have that accepted, you actually have to show how it is undemocratic.

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This president was elected fair and square--on paper. The investigation is not complete. Just because you or I don't like Trump, doesn't give us a right to undermine the votes of the Americans who did vote for him. C'mon! You have to admit that there's a zealousness never seen--at least not in a loooong time-- to impeach this president. Let the investigation conclude before we reach a full verdict. If you're not happy with this president, voice your opinion next election. Until then, tone it down a bit. And Wolff and his book shows the shuckster ways of democrats: playing the tune the masses want to hear, all the while taking their money. Wolff is just that with this book: a Wolff in sheeps clothing.

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You guys have already reached a verdict before the investigation has concluded.

Incorrect. We have simply been telling cons to wait for the investigations to be concluded, which is exactly what you just recommended.

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C'mon! You have to admit that there's a zealousness never seen--at least not in a loooong time-- to impeach this president.

A year and two months ago is not a looooong time.

If you're not happy with this president, voice your opinion next election. Until then, tone it down a bit.

Is this what you were saying during the last administration? The vitriol was off the charts then.

And Wolff and his book shows the shuckster ways of democrats: playing the tune the masses want to hear, all the while taking their money

This is exactly what Trump has done and continues to do.

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Just because you or I don't like Trump, doesn't give us a right to undermine the votes of the Americans who did vote for him.

Correct, it's freedom of speech that gives the right to criticize him, and his own incompetence that provides the motivation to do so.

You have to admit that there's a zealousness never seen--at least not in a loooong time-- to impeach this president.

Yeah, not since Obama was president.

Let the investigation conclude before we reach a full verdict.

I agree.

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Correct, it's freedom of speech that gives the right to criticize him,

And a free, unfettered press is critical to free speech. Too bad Trump and his supporters don't understand this, so constantly denigrate any press that doesn't praise Trump.

and his own incompetence that provides the motivation to do so.

And it's a lot of motivation.

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To be fair to Noidall, I don't think he is a Trump supporter overall based on his past comments. I think he is just trying to point out his dislike of the incessant criticism of Trump.

The problem is that the incessant criticism of Trump comes from his unrelenting actions that deserve criticism.

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To be fair to Noidall, I don't think he is a Trump supporter overall based on his past comments. I think he is just trying to point out his dislike of the incessant criticism of Trump.

Reasonable analysis.

The problem is that the incessant criticism of Trump comes from his unrelenting actions that deserve criticism.

Exactly.

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You got to be kidding. Trump is not fit for the job? How? It also matters not. The American people voted him into office. It is a done deal. To say otherwise is to say the American people are incapable of choosing wisely. The resentment against Trump comes from those who have no faith in God, the soulless who need the guidance of government; personal and financial security due to their inability to compete in a competitive society.

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To say otherwise is to say the American people are incapable of choosing wisely.

No. It is to say that some American people are clearly incapable of choosing wisely.

The resentment against Trump comes from those who have no faith in God, the soulless who need the guidance of government;

Wow. Just wow.

personal and financial security due to their inability to compete in a competitive society.

Anyone can compete if they have daddy's money.

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Dwight RiderToday  09:43 am JST

You got to be kidding. Trump is not fit for the job? How? It also matters not. The American people voted him into office. 

NO. A MINORITY of the American people voted him into office. The MAJORITY voted AGAINST him but because of the stupid electoral college system he won anyway. Is there something about that which is hard to understand? Are any of the words too difficult?

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While this may be a valid point, it does nothing to refute the fact that the stock market tripled under Obama.

I was talking about the last 5 years of his admin. he had the lower labor participation rate since the 1970's, lowest home ownership rate in 51 years, Americans had less money to buy homes compared to foreigners that did, over 43 million in poverty and 13 million on food stamps, that's what I was talking about. Yes, that's why Democrats lost over 1000 legislative seats.

However, it does nothing to refute the fact that Trump made that repugnant comment about POWs.

The only people that made issue of what he said, were the Trump haters and John McCain and those comments were specifically hurled towards him because McCain took personal shots at Trump and McCain should have known, his record wasn't going to save him from Trump's wrath.

The OP was that Trump owes millions to people because of the fraud he perpetrated through Trump University. Your response was to say Harvard is also overpriced,

No, very relevant. So if I pay 50K a year and can't get a job in my field and I have to take a job in another field to get by, then the education I received was essentially a ripoff and for what? Just to carry the name and prestige? Sorry, but that doesn't pay the bills.

No wonder repubes lost that senate seat in Bama.

But gained one in Virginia. Anyway, you have a vulnerable Democrat in Alabama and if the guy likes his job and wants to keep it, he's going to be very careful or he'll be a one term Senator.

None of this refutes the fact that Trump imports cheap labor to work at his resorts instead of hiring from the thousands of Americans looking for exactly the kinds of jobs he is using foreign labor for, which is a prime example of him putting himself before America. MAGMA!

Yes, our countries are connected, so Trump can concentrate his efforts in the private sector in helping create jobs and China can supply the cheap labor and that clears up the jobs that most Americans won't do. It's a win, win situation.

Unless you are citing CNN in an attempt to obfuscate. LOL.

Oh, never! But now all of a sudden to the left the validity of CNN is coming into question? They are the are to be believed when they bash Trump, but they lie when they give him credit? You guys are hilarious!

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To say otherwise is to say the American people are incapable of choosing wisely.

Who needs to say it - Trump proved it.

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Nothing is getting done. Liberals need to be honest and just admit that, just as people didn't like Obama simply because of his skin color, liberals don't like Trump simply because he's rich, arrogant, and narcissistic. 

All valid reasons to consider him unsuitable, but others are rather more important:

Refused to release tax records, faked own medical records, exceedingly dodgy business past (basically, a swindler), patholical liar, hopeless fantasist, and signs (well before election day) of severe mental illness. These are all things that make someone unsuitable for the presidency, and some additionally put the country at grave risk.

This isn't a "Liberals" issue, either. The White House and the Trump administration itself is a bear pit, and he's spent a good deal of time undermining, wrongfooting, and publicly attacking the people who work for him, and savaging his political allies.

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Trump proved it.

Why? Because the lefty MSM disapproved? So Clinton was the "wise" choice? Haha.

It seems Sanders was the choice for the left majority until the all wise one Hillary stole it. Yeah, very wise the two of them. Sanders gets screwed then keeps his mouth shut about it, while Clinton does the screwing and stands up on stage smiling like an innocent angel. At least Trump won fair and square with very little MSM support. I'd say the Americans chose wisely by not choosing who the MSM was pushing on them. I know it must be difficult for you to grasp the concept that many are waking up to the globalist agenda.

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I was talking about the last 5 years of his admin

Then you need to signal that you are changing topics.

The only people that made issue of what he said, were the Trump haters and John McCain and those comments were specifically hurled towards him because McCain took personal shots at Trump and McCain should have known, his record wasn't going to save him from Trump's wrath.

Still doesn't refute the repugnant comment Trump made denigrating those that served.

No, very relevant. So if I pay 50K a year and can't get a job in my field and I have to take a job in another field to get by, then the education I received was essentially a ripoff and for what? 

This is not relevant to the fact that Trump perpetrated fraud through Trump University. JPN_Guy broke it down succinctly.

But gained one in Virginia

In a state legislature Huge difference. Kuddos. ROFL!

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Because the lefty MSM disapproved? So Clinton was the "wise" choice?

Under the circumstances, Clinton was an infinitely wiser choice. That's because the choice was Clinton or Trump, and Trump is an insane choice.

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Mr. NoidallToday  04:59 am JST

But why? We all know Trump was born in America. Just like we all know Obama was and the whole question about his citizenship was based on racists who were pissed a Blackman was in office. So your argument is basically Trump did this to Obama so let's do it to Trump. In the end, everyone is just trying to score political points for their "team".

To leave open bigotry unpunished is to give it permission to fester.

Nothing is getting done.

Blame the party that controls the government.

Liberals need to be honest and just admit that, just as people didn't like Obama simply because of his skin color, liberals don't like Trump simply because he's rich, arrogant, and narcissistic.

So, the right hated Obama because of circumstances of his birth that he had no control over and which had no bearing on his ability to lead the nation or on the quality of his character, while the left hates Trump for his character flaws that if he worked at he could overcome but since he doesn't they interfere with his ability to lead the country. And you want to pretend these are parallel hatreds?

Their hatred can't have anything to do with his policies because they been foaming so much at the mouth that they even haven't paid attention to his policies.

This is straight up false.

All this book is doing is attacking Trumps character. Here's a thought: how about liberals shut up for, say, one year and then go after Trump. If he's as stupid and unfit for office as people say he is, then Trump will dig his own grave.

Why should Trump be given a free pass when he is damaging and dividing the country now? People are going to literally die over the undermining he does to the Affordable Care Act. People are literally going to die because of the damage he is doing to the environment by needlessly and thoughtlessly tossing aside regulations just because Obama supported them. People are going to have their lives and/or families destroyed by his hateful and bigoted immigration and refugee policies, not to mention his painfully inept tax plan that amounts to nothing more than a cash grab for the rich.

Trump is actively undermining the nation, and it all comes from his disastrous character flaws. It is foolishness to pretend we shouldn't criticize that just because some right wingers are starting to realize what a terrible choice they made and don't want their fee-fees hurt having it pointed out to them.

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The beauty is that when Trump leaves in the near future he's going to be slurring, screaming, and then suddenly saying, "This book is false! And I never wanted to be president anyway! (which the book says is fact) So, I quit!" and then Trumpers will at first say what a great decision it is, and how false the book was and unfair (admitting he never wanted to be president and therefore vindicating contents of the book), then within six months they'll be back to calling Trump a "lunatic" like they did before he won the GOP nod. So fickle are the GOP.

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Then you need to signal that you are changing topics

I didn’t.

Still doesn't refute the repugnant comment Trump made denigrating those that served.

He didn’t. Again, it was a personal attack against McCain-specifically.

This is not relevant to the fact that Trump perpetrated fraud through Trump University. JPN_Guy broke it down succinctly.

Ok, that’s his opinion, I have a different one.

In a state legislature Huge difference.

Yes, which is a big deal. Thank God he won.

The beauty is that when Trump leaves in the near future he's going to be slurring,

Ahh, in 2020 you won’t be talking about this anymore.

screaming, and then suddenly saying, "This book is false!

Ok, Wolff said, Trump’s lying and Trump said, Wolff is lying, so why not give Trump the benefit of a doubt? Trump may say things outlandish from time to time, but Wolff has had credibility problems in the past. So there is no way we will truly know, so the book could be false or there could be some bit of validity to it.

And I never wanted to be president anyway! (which the book says is fact) So, I quit!" and then Trumpers will at first say what a great decision it is, and how false the book was and unfair (admitting he never wanted to be president and therefore vindicating contents of the book), then within six months they'll be back to calling Trump a "lunatic" like they did before he won the GOP nod. So fickle are the GOP.

Can you verify these allegations? Any of them? If you can please share it with us, if not, you don’t know if that’s true or not, but knowing Trump how compulsive he is about winning and being number one, I seriously doubt or can’t even imagine him saying that.

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Can you verify these allegations?

You should verify the meaning of the word 'allegation', as you're using it wrong.

These are predictions or hypothesis, and predictions/hypothesis can only be verified after the fact.

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Then you need to signal that you are changing topics

I didn’t.

I know you didn't signal that you changed topics, that's why I said you need to do it. If you're saying you didn't change topics, you need to check yourself, son. You can do that by reviewing our previous posts, which will demonstrate your original, irrelevant retort was to my assertion that Obama tripled the stock market. Kuddos. ROFL! Don't even go there, bro. #clinton wasn't manning a SAW in Benghazi so is a criminal.

He didn’t. Again, it was a wpersonal attack against McCain-specifically.

Then Trump should have had the wherewithal to do declare, but he didn't. That means he was denegrating those who served. His words, not mine.

Ok, that’s his opinion, I have a different one.

Then your opinion is in no way based in fact bevause Harvard doesn't use high-pressure sales tactics, but Trump U did. Smh.

Yes, which is a big deal. Thank God he won.

And thank god the kiddie fiddler didn't win a national seat. So now state legislatures are a big deal. Hard to keep up with moving goal posts.

Ahh, in 2020 you won’t be talking about this anymore.

Correct, because if Trump makes it to 2020, he'll be tossed out on his semiliterate, demented arse.

> Ok, Wolff said, Trump’s lying and Trump said, Wolff is lying, so why not give Trump the benefit of a doubt? 

Because Trump has repeatedly been shown to lack credibility. Largest inauguration crowds. Full stop.

Can you verify these allegations? Any of them

Can you verify any allegation related to Clinton committing crimes or Mueller being biased? Thought not. ROFL! No wonder Dems lost 1,000 legislative seats. When I am on assignment . . . I live 45 minutes from Camp Pendleton. Near my place in Fukuoka . . . My 10 year old daughter with auburn hair . . . MAGMA!

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These are predictions or hypothesis, and predictions/hypothesis can only be verified after the fact.

Same thing, these are all guesses at the very least.

You can do that by reviewing our previous posts, which will demonstrate your original, irrelevant retort was to my assertion that Obama tripled the stock market.

I was talking about the last 5 years of his admin. lowest labor participation sine the 70’s, over 14 million on food stamps, worst recovery since the 40’s, never reaching a solid GDP of 3.0, welfare skyrocketed. American home ownership down in over 51 years. No, I was spot on.

Then Trump should have had the wherewithal to do declare, but he didn't. That means he was denegrating those who served. His words, not mine.

Funny, the only people that made an issue of it were the usual haters and the man that was subjected to that personal attack.

Then your opinion is in no way based in fact bevause Harvard doesn't use high-pressure sales tactics, but Trump U did. Smh.

You’re right they don’t, but that still doesn’t answer the question, what on Earth are you getting for 50K that you can’t get for 1/3 of that price?

And thank god the kiddie fiddler didn't win a national seat. So now state legislatures are a big deal. Hard to keep up with moving goal posts.

Winning is one thing, getting a liberal legislation passed in the heaviest Republican evangelical state is almost impossible. For Jones, the goal post is cemented in concrete.

Correct, because if Trump makes it to 2020, he'll be tossed out on his semiliterate, demented arse.

The way the economy is going, at this point, I don’t think God could dislodge the man from office.

Because Trump has repeatedly been shown to lack credibility. Largest inauguration crowds. Full stop.

Because everyone deserves a benefit of a doubt, but it goes both ways, you don’t want to extend the President that curtesy, then we can have the same skepticism about Wolff as well.

https://www.aol.com/article/news/2018/01/05/michael-wolff-says-he-cant-be-sure-if-parts-of-explosive-trump-book-are-true/23324888/

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You can do that by reviewing our previous posts, which will demonstrate your original, irrelevant retort was to my assertion that Obama tripled the stock market.

To be fair, Bass has finally accepted that the stock market nearly tripled under Obama. His line now is that wasn’t particularly impressive.

It took a while but he got there eventually.

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I was talking about the last 5 years of his admin

Repeating that you changed topics without informing the other party still does not change the fact that you were retorting to the factual assertion that Obama tripled the stock market. Smh. ROFL. I know you didn't just say that.

Funny, the only people that made an issue of it were the usual haters and the man that was subjected to that personal attack

If that's what you want to call those that serve and respect those that serve/served, that's your prerogative. When I was covering the Battle for Baghdad . . . Since I live 45 minutes from Fort Hood, err . . . Camp Pendleton . . .

You’re right they don’t, but that still doesn’t answer the question, what on Earth are you getting for 50K that you can’t get for 1/3 of that price?

I know I was correct. Your question still did not refute that Trump perpetrated fraud through Trump U, which is what your question was a retort to.

Winning is one thing, getting a liberal legislation passed in the heaviest Republican evangelical state is almost impossible. For Jones, the goal post is cemented in concrete

Sure, but repubes still lost a national legislative seat in the heaviest evangelical state.

The way the economy is going, at this point, I don’t think God could dislodge the man from office

That's your opinion, and we all know your opinion is . . . well, just that. MAGMA. No wonder Dems lost 1,000 legislative seats. ROFL. I know you didn't just say that, homie.

Because everyone deserves a benefit of a doubt, but it goes both ways, you don’t want to extend the President that curtesy, then we can have the same skepticism about Wolff as well.

Everyone does deserve the benefit of the doubt, up until they demonstrate that they lack credibility. You know, like Trump constantly does through his tweets, or some do by claiming they simultaneously live in three different place after having said they left one in 2001. Kuddos to Trump's demented tweets!

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To be fair, Bass has finally accepted that the stock market nearly tripled under Obama. His line now is that wasn’t particularly impressive. 

It took a while but he got there eventually.

Not denying it is not the same as accepting it. Haha.

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It was a very vocal minority that got Trump elected. Some of them were blowing off about how if he lost they would be camped out in Washington with their guns.

@SimonFoston.

So what?  He won.  The rules were the same for both candidates.  The rules are set that way so west and east coast don't rule the country.  The only reason you are sore about this is because your horse lost the race---a race that she cheated on, by the way!

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Sam WattersToday  10:52 pm JST

The only reason you are sore about this is because your horse lost the race---a race that she cheated on, by the way!

What makes YOU think you know anything about who I would support? Got anything at all to base this assumption on that it would be Hillary Clinton? Any quotes? No? Thought not. No, you haven't even got the first clue. Stick to commenting on what people actually say, not what you imagine they think.

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To be fair, Bass has finally accepted that the stock market nearly tripled under Obama. His line now is that wasn’t particularly impressive. 

I never said that, I would never ever say anything so untrue, I have no idea what you are.....Hey, you in California? Lol

If that's what you want to call those that serve and respect those that serve/served, that's your prerogative.

Not my prerogative, when McCain attacked Trump, he should’ve known better that Trump was going to unleash a can of whip*** on him.

Your question still did not refute that Trump perpetrated fraud through Trump U, which is what your question was a retort to.

No, I asked what the difference is between Trump U and paying 50K a year? Especially if I can’t get a job? But you never answered my original question, if you can’t its ok, I wouldn’t hold it against you. Lol

Sure, but repubes still lost a national legislative seat in the heaviest evangelical state.

With a vulnerable Democrat in the lions den ROFL

That's your opinion

Not my opinion, check the Dow over the last few days, made my phone melt.

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I was talking about the last 5 years of his admin. lowest labor participation sine the 70’s, over 14 million on food stamps, worst recovery since the 40’s, never reaching a solid GDP of 3.0, welfare skyrocketed. American home ownership down in over 51 years. No, I was spot on.

You bring up food stamps, as if we're supposed to believe the rate was simply rising during the Obama presidency. Let's have a look at it in graph form:

http://s.newsweek.com/sites/www.newsweek.com/files/styles/full/public/2017/07/21/0722foodstampsdecline_0.jpg

Oh. Not quite how you described it.

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They are just acting to sell the book ,

they are both actors of reality show,

Trumps will act as victim ,

tries to divert attention to somewhere else ,

so Americans would forget all his mistakes as a President of US

his relation to Russia ......

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@Simon. Sure,man. Whatever.

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I support his policies on illegal immigration among others.

And they are all failing. Most recent is his illegal voter fraud investigation of 7-9 million people. What happened to that? Illegal immigration? Where is the 50ftx2,000 mile concrete wall? Of course Trump followers say the American stock market is doing well all (100%) because of Trump being in the WH. But everything else Trump is a complete loser.

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@Nishikat. Trump has been in office for about 14 months. The wall will be built in time. In the meantime Trump’s policies are having an impact, much to the chagrine of the Left.

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Watched Mr. Wolff on Meet the Press today.  He comes across as a self-aggrandizing, delusional, effete liberal.  No wonder the mainstream media hangs on his every word, and the rest of the country listens but then moves on.

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Trump has been in office for about 14 months. 

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

Dow goes from 18,589 on November 9, 2016, to 25,075 today, for a new all-time Record. Jumped 1000 points in last 5 weeks, Record fastest 1000 point move in history. This is all about the Make America Great Again agenda! Jobs, Jobs, Jobs. Six trillion dollars in value created!

8:35 PM - Jan 5, 2018

Yes, and as you say it's 100% because of him the stock market is winning. So it it also 100% because of him there is no:

wall, Hillary arrest, Muslim ban. And I have yet to see one single arrest from the voter fraud investigation (out of 7-9 million). But so what? The stock market is winning and it's all because of Trump as you said.

But healthcare costs are rising so what's the point of a rising economy if it's all going to healthcare costs? Proof Trump has failed. Also, Trump's wall will fail because Mexicans will just use ladders and ropes. A 50B dollar wall? Just get yourself a 50 dollar ladder from Home Depot. What a joke? Ladders have been used to go over walls for hundreds of years? And who's going to pay all those 10s of billions for the wall?

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Trump has been in office for about 14 months.

Trump hasn't even been in office for 12 months.

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check the Dow over the last few days

It's down 400 points over the last few days. Why are you bragging?

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I never said that, I would never ever say anything so untrue,

Good thing Obama tripling the stock market is a fact.

I have no idea what you are.....Hey, you in California? Lol

Yes, 45 minutes from Camp Pendleton. But I left California in 2001, which is why I still claim to live there when I need to bolster an argument. Oh my! ROFL. 1,000 legislative seats lost, but one gained in Bama.

*Not my prerogative, when McCain attacked Trump, he should’ve known better that Trump was going to unleash a can of whip** on him.

McCain pointing out facts was not an attack. Trump denigrating those that served and were captured was and is repugnant. When I was embedded with the Marines on Iwo, they all expressed fear at being captured. Lol.

No, I asked what the difference is between Trump U and paying 50K a year?

Yes, in response to the factual assertion that Trump perpetrated fraud through Trump U. You were attempting to justify Trump's fraud through obfuscation. Answering the question would legitimize the obfuscation. I'll answer when you admit Trump perpetrated fraud through Trump U.

With a vulnerable Democrat in the lions den ROFL

I agree that evangelicals are lions, very much predators. Predators like the kiddie fiddler Moore that repubs supported because they care more about party than morals. Anyway, huge loss in a conservative stronghold. Kuddos to Jones! ROFL. Don't even go there.

Not my opinion, check the Dow over the last few days, made my phone melt

More obfuscation. It was clear that I was saying it's your opinion that not even the sky fairy could get Trump out because of the Dow. Nobody would say the Dow isn't roaring bevause that it is is a fact, which is what I deal in, unlike some people that clearly don't know where they live.

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Trump book author says his revelations will bring down U.S. president

Wolff wrote an entire book based on watching three hours of "The Apprentice" and the leftists are treating his piece of fiction as gospel.

Oh, well, let them live in their bubble. They've spent countless hours and billions of dollars trying to topple President Trump. Perhaps a BOOK will do the trick.

Yeah, that's the ticket. . . .

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IMO, President Trump directed Bannon to gaslight Wolff; to tell him complete and utter nonsense that Wolff lapped up as gospel and the leftists unquestionably accepted. In time, this "book" will be proven as another example of fake news, and the gullible globalists will be played. . . . again

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and the gullible globalists

What is a globalist?

Also, Trump keeps piling on the national debt. He promised to reduce it to zero. Of course less than one year. But no sign of even turning around and keeps going up and up.

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"what is a globalist?"

Heh, folks who kept referring to HRC as "Madam President" up to 8:59 p.m. on Nov. 8, 2016.

"Trump keeps piling on the national debt."

Since when did liberals start caring about racking up U.S. national debt? Certainly, not in the previous eight years before President Trump was elected president. . . .

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This:

Heh, folks who kept referring to HRC as "Madam President" up to 8:59 p.m. on Nov. 8, 2016.

Does not answer this:

What is a globalist?

What is a globalist? A businesswoman making shoes in China sells them in US? A real estate magnate with properties around the world?

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Wolff wrote an entire book based on watching three hours of "The Apprentice"

Demonstrably false.

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Since when did liberals start caring about racking up U.S. national debt?

No one said anything about Obama's debt- except his white haters who think he was born in Kenya and are racist. But Trump promised to reverse it (read quote below as he is great with debt) and he hasn't- that's what I am saying. His broken promise (among many many others). He was bragging about how he was going to reverse Obama's debt, but he hasn't. If he hadn't made that promise I would not be saying anything.

“I’m the king of debt. I’m great with debt. Nobody knows debt better than me,” Trump told Norah O’Donnell in an interview that aired on “CBS This Morning.” “I’ve made a fortune by using debt, and if things don’t work out I renegotiate the debt. I mean, that’s a smart thing, not a stupid thing.”

Trump's words and (another) broken promise. He failed to be "great with debt"

folks who kept referring to HRC as "Madam President"

What makes them Globalists? How does that connect to wanting Hillary for president? How is Hillary connected to Global? Please be specific. But why do Trump followers like Trump? Personally I wanted Hillary over Trump. But I wanted another Republican (not Trump) over Hillary. I am not a cultist of any political party- unlike Trump followers. I like some on the right and left. I especially think it's disgusting how the evangelical Jesus zombie freak believers like Ralph Reed go for Trump.

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replying to

Let's reply to Trump's broken promises like:

No wall, No Hillary arrest, rising healthcare costs, No Muslim ban, no Transgender ban, and the debt keeps going up and up. Also, North Korea is about to blow up the world and it's all on Trump's watch.

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"Michael Wolff is a total loser who made up stories in order to sell this really boring and untruthful book," Trump said. "He used Sloppy Steve Bannon, who cried when he got fired and begged for his job. Now Sloppy Steve has been dumped like a dog by almost everyone. Too bad!"

Well played, Sir!! What a gravely mature and statesmanlike way of countering the Michael Wolff narrative that you’re a juvenile, undisciplined bonehead.

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IMO, President Trump directed Bannon to gaslight Wolff; to tell him complete and utter nonsense that Wolff lapped up as gospel and the leftists unquestionably accepted. In time, this "book" will be proven as another example of fake news, and the gullible globalists will be played. . . . again

Yes, it all adds up so neatly that he actually wanted this book published, doesn't it?

The frenzied hunt by staffers last week for a copy of the book; Trump's attacks within hours on Bannon, informing us that he cried and begged for his job back when he was "dumped like a dog"; the attack on Wolff as a "total loser" who wrote a "boring and untruthful" book.

And the cease and desist letters from Trump's lawyers to the publisher of the book, claiming libel, invasion of privacy, etc; to Michael Wolff; and a letter to Bannon on violating his non-disclosure agreement.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4343961-Harder-demand-letter-to-Bannon-1-3-2018.html

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2018/01/04/16/47C17F8C00000578-0-image-m-10_1515081823808.jpg

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Doubt a book will bring down the President, the left love to sling enough mud hoping some will stick, lets have a look - false news, sexual harassment, Russia again and again and again - nothing yet

DT looks like he is at the start of a winning streak - ISIS stronghold in the Middle East is almost over, Tax Cuts through, Mexican proto type walls being tested, New Supreme Court Judge and heaps of Federal Court Judges appointed meaning common sense decisions will start flowing through, Supreme Court backing Travel ban, Welfare reform next,

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What a joke, the book will only make his agenda stronger.

And Wolff richer.

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interesting to see Tump is supported by hard working people and hated by illegals, welfare recipients and twitter-tards

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Teflon Trump, but I still think he will be a one term president.

I will be curious to see if Trump overcomes the Mueller investigation whether he receives a bump in popularity. If he is found "innocent" as such it might pay off handsomely.

If he serves two terms I will be stunned, assuming he decides to hang around that long, which is very doubtful imo.

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Who calls other people losers? It is like Trump is a school bully.

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If they impeach Trump, they also need to impeach Pence as well. The LAST thing we want is to have a crazy Evangelical nut in the WH.

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