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© Thomson Reuters 2020.Trump calls Fauci remarks on risks to reopening economy unacceptable
By Steve Holland WASHINGTON©2024 GPlusMedia Inc.
109 Comments
nostromo
Last time I checked the US was a democracy which means that people are entitled to their opinions especially when they are experts in their field. Unfortunately for everyone, Trump will let nothing stand in his way of re-election regardless of whatever the facts maybe
bass4funk
Well, you can make the same arguments about the Democrats saying and doing whatever sleazy tactics they can use to get into the WH, unfortunately....
yakyak
What people fail to realize is Fauci has his own agenda separate from politics and medicine. He is in bed with the tech companies.
Serrano
What's wrong with Trump? Dr. Fauci's statements are not to be questioned - ever! Shut up and do what you're told! Sheesh!
Last time I checked the US was a democracy which means that people are entitled to their opinions especially when they are experts in their field.
Earth to nostromo - Fauci just freely expressed his opinion. We'll take it under advisement.
Fauci wants schools to remain closed in the fall. Guess what - most parents are against that idea.
Trump will let nothing stand in his way of re-election regardless of whatever the facts maybe
Nooooo, but the Democrats will let nothing stand in the way of their continued twisted efforts to take down Trump, doing whatever they can to ruin the economy and put us even more into debt to China.
SuperLib
Unacceptable to his reelection campaign.
Sounds pretty paranoid to me.
Ah_so
For example, see below:
Blacklabel
Plus regular everyday people who have seen the data and just want to go back to work and send their kids back to school. It’s conspiracy theory to even disagree with Fauci now?
Ah_so
What many seem to forget is that Fauci gives his scientific opinion and it is up to the President to make up his mind based on his judgment balancing the various views he receives, both economic and health related.
What you should not have is yes-men who just say what the President wants to hear.
There is always going to have to be a balance between lives and the economy until we have a treatment or vaccine. Few people are willing to have an honest conversation about this. It needs to be done sensitively, but you can't change medical opinion just to suit your political will.
plasticmonkey
It’s amazing to think back on the time when bass and other Trump lovers here used to keep telling us “listen to Fauci”. Those days are over.
Criticize one man, Trump, and the retort is a blanket condemnation of an entire political party. That trick is not very persuasive, and rather tiring.
Alfie Noakes
How often is Trump interviewed on Fox like this? Daily, weekly or whenever he feels like it? Did other presidents do this or is it just Trump?
Serrano
Sounds pretty paranoid to me.
You don't believe the Democrats don't want to ruin the economy? I guess you haven't seen what's in this $3 trillion spending package that will put us in the range of $30 trillion in debt. And they want to continue the economy-killing lockdowns. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this out.
Strangerland
That’s quite the conspiracy on which you are theorizing.
The Avenger
Most people are aware of the importance of expertise. They follow traffic signs, recipes, physician advice. They've paid attention to experts during the COVID-19 outbreak.
Those that do not follow this advice are limited, and for the most part, simply angry white men. Trump is the leader of them and they will follow their cult leader.
Strangerland
It does look indeed like the trump administration will be responsible for bringing the debt past $30 trillion.
History won’t forget that. Half as much debt as every other president combined. In half a presidency.
Jsapc
Please show us polls that reflect that claim.
And what exactly would they achieve by "ruining the economy"?
Blacklabel
Fauci was wrong about wearing masks, wrong about taking cruises, wrong about the death count model and wrong about the Gilead treatment drug. Those are his areas of supposed expertise.
You dont need to be far right or a conspiracy theorist to think he could possibly be wrong again on the the economy and reopening and kids going to school, which is not his expertise.
Jsapc
Could you please remind us what Trump's "areas of expertise" are, exactly?
It's not medicine because he's not a doctor, it's not the economy because he bankrupts casinos and now tanked the american economy... So why is his opinion relevant at all?
N.M.
@Blacklabel None of your affirmations are true.
Masks: when was he wrong? He always said that mask don't protect you much (true) and that the people tha need it most are health workers (also true).
Death count model: there is no such thing.
GIlead treatment drug: it is still an unproven drug pushed by private interests.
Cruises: I don't know what he said about that.
Jsapc
Everytime he needs to whine or go to his happy place because other reporters are mean to him.
It's just him.
Open Minded
Fauci is a medical expert who gives factual scientific medical recommendations.
Trump is a politician who must take decisions based on various sources (medical, economical, social, ...). But taking decisions means taking calculated risks and then being accountable for that. Trump is not able to take this responsibility, this is where he is failing in his assigned role by the electors.
Blacklabel
President of the United States.
Blacklabel
Not knowing what was said didnt stop you from saying none of my affirmations was true, though?
Alfie Noakes
@Jsapc
Thanks for the reply. I thought so - I couldn't remember any of the others doing this. Trump really is Rupert Murdoch's puppet, it seems.
Jsapc
Yes. And Dr. Frauci is the director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.
Bu you didn't answer my question : what are Trump's areas of expertise?
Blacklabel
winning elections to be the top, final decision maker in the United States of America.
Plus building, buying and owning lots of things.
bass4funk
No, liberals were the ones that kept howling listening to the experts no matter what, if they say, “jump”, you say, “how high?” Of course you take their advice, but ultimately, you can decide for yourself at this point what is the best for you as long as you follow all the safety protocols.
No, let’s criticize the people that want to beat Trump and if that means the entire country should suffer, damn them and their jobs or families, we need to get rid of Trump, that thought process is almost as deadly as the virus itself.
And yet, Russia, Trump derangement is out of control now and there is no cure for this grim prognosis.
stormcrow
Over 80,000 dead Americans, and the only thing Trump can think is: “Oh, boy! Let’s get this economy goin’!” He just doesn’t get it that the patient is sick and needs to recover before you enter them in a marathon. Trump is obviously shaken up and is willing to bet the farm with one last roll of the dice, but society will be the big loser if his gamble fails.
bass4funk
As do the reporters that whine running back to their masters when he he berates them for being obnoxious.
lincolnman
Everyone hear the sound of screeching tires and the high-speed U-turn? Has to be one of the fastest flip-flops ever.
Just last week the Trump supporters were all singing the praises of Dr Fauci - he's "an expert", "everyone should listen to Dr Fauci", "he'll guide us through this".... Just look at their archive - they're all there...
But now - SCREECH - he's a "buffoon", "he wrong", he "should shut up"...
I guess you have to be an epidemiologist to know what the word "hypocrite" means...
Trump supporters listening to the tornado warning sirens going off: "I wish that thing would shut up and stop trying to limit my freedom - come one, let's go sit on the porch and watch the show"....
bass4funk
And thousands more will die as well as businesses and the economy if the Dems focus only keeping the country locked down. Again, liberals need to eat as well, even if it’s vegan.
You have gangrene, you have a choice, amputate or die, so which choice do you make?
The same can be said if we keep the country locked down, either way it’s a risk, but if you don’t restart the country, the death rate will go up, that’s for certain.
Blacklabel
Yes, it was basically people are going to die because Trump wont listen to the experts. So he put his concern about Fauci's politics aside, and listened to the expert. Did every single thing he recommended. yet Fauci has no responsibility for the results of what he personally decided?
But now that we did what liberals demanded, its my opinion that enough time has passed that we can look back and evaluate. The decisions the main expert Fauci made arent holding up well as being the correct ones. masks, cruises, treatments, death count models: all not totally "wrong" maybe, but definitely not right either.
lincolnman
Berate them? He just whines like a two-year old, then runs away back to the safety of his WH basement and wall full of TVs tuned to Faux News, where he can hear Hannity, Carslon, and Ingraham fawn over him. He could listen to Judge Jeannie too but he can't understand her slurred words....
Perfect example of what Trump supporters don't get - Fauci doesn't make decisions - he provides advice and assessments. The guy who said the virus was "contained", "was just one person from China", and would "just disappear"... That guy made the decisions - all the wrong ones...
Prove it.
Jsapc
And how does that help when the nation is faced with a deadly pandemic and an almost unprecedented economical crash, exactly?
Serrano
It's not medicine because he's not a doctor, it's not the economy because he bankrupts casinos and now tanked the american economy
So this is all Trump's fault and the coronavirus which is killing economies all over the world gets a pass, eh?
I’m feeling sick. I think I’ll drink some Draino. My president said it’s effective and there’s nothing to lose.
Wow, this comment section is really going down the drain...
SuperLib
I just happen to think Trump is focused more on his reelection than the best way out. It's just the kind of man he is. Can't fault me for that given the evidence.
As for Fauci, just ignore him if you want to. Don't practice social distancing. Don't wash your hands. You don't have to do anything you want to do if you feel he is not worth listening to. Just keep in mind there is a risk of more outbreaks that we won't be able to handle, then we're back to where we started from....in lockdown.
As for Democrats having some motive to keep things closed to ruin the economy, you must be out of your mind. It's not like they are the ones going against the experts, and a vast majority of the people support their actions.
Trump in his fans are squarely in the minority. They are free to voice their opinions but it will be the minority opinion.
Texas A&M Aggie
Dr. fauci blew his claim that schools and businesses can return to normal only after a virus vaccine is created is the U.S. out of the water today when he said in an NBC interview that even if said vaccine is found, it may not be totally effective in eradicating the virus. Time has past to send the doctor packing.
kurisupisu
Maybe Dr Fauci is waiting from a vaccine from a lab which he had a hand in funding?
Dr Fauci is more than a doctor with control to big budgets.
I am sure that he has his own agenda...
Jsapc
He was supposed to have built the "greatest economy the world has ever seen". How could the greatest economy ever crumble after a pandemic with a measly 3% death rate and eight weeks of lockdown? Shouldn't it be strong enough to sustain such a crisis?
Blacklabel
I dont want to hear it now that CNN has put a teenage climate change activist on their panel of "coronavirus experts".
Fauci had his chance to decided everything for 2 months, we have evaluated his decisions after the fact, found them lacking and will be moving on without him.
Jsapc
What does CNN have to do with anything? We're talking about the governement.
Who is "we"?
CS
It's kind of obvious what's going on regarding Covid-19. The worlds largest power grab systematically taking your freedoms away right under your nose. So sad if you don't take a stand. Thats why you are being separated, told to wear masks, stand in single file lines. Fear is a powerful controller. Remember the words of Orwell “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”
Blacklabel
"we" in this case would be the people who never trusted Fauci or his politics and liberal media connections.
Yet, fully supported him because liberals said he was the expert and people would die if we didnt do exactly what he said. Now there are people here claiming flip flops. No, never trusted him, ever. But agreed to give him full support anyway in the hope that people wouldnt die.
Based on what the President has now said, his remarks are unacceptable related to reopening, the economy and schools. So I imagine the next time we will see him in any official capacity is at Impeachment 2.0 next year.
Or the next CNN panel of "coronavirus experts" with the climate change girl.
bass4funk
For once we agree on something.
It was so close until this virus hit.
Easy, you stop the economic engine and here we are.
bass4funk
And the Democrats are just so worried about the country, the election is the last thing on their mind now as it was in 2016.
Many people seem to be doing that more and more.
There are even greater risks if we don’t re-open the country, even Elon Musk is tired of this nonsense.
No, that’s exactly what they’re trying to do, we know it and they know it. If this can screw Trump in the General, oh, most definitely they will work to keep this country closed.
And growing steadily with each passing day, thanks Democrats.
SuperLib
So will you be sending your workers back into the office?
Jsapc
And how many people do you think this "we" includes? Judging from the comments, it doesn't include a lot of people on this site. And judging from Fauci's approval numbers, it doesn't include a lot of the population either.
You seem to have an unhealthy obsession with CNN? I've never seen it mentioned by anyone here other than you and bass.
Jsapc
Oh you mean it wasn't finished? Everyone on the right claimed it was already the greatest economy ever, so I'm confused. Was it still a work in progress?
So the greatest economy in the history of the world can be stopped by 8 weeks of lockdown? Again, that doesn't seem very sturdy to me.
SuperLib
Who cares what you think about Democrats?
They are listening to the experts and the people. Now if they were ignoring them, you'd have a case that they have a secret agenda.
Is it? Let me know when you aren't a minority anymore. Gracias.
Jimizo
I was told by Trump supporters here that nobody watches it.
Why they keep mentioning something so unimportant is baffling.
bass4funk
Hate the messenger, don’t hate the message.
Yes, but these fools also know, they know you cannot stop the country indefinitely, come on. If these people don’t know that, they absolutely shouldn’t be in power under any circumstances. Because they can’t even see the financial ramifications of their actions.. the heck with these people.
If that were true, Trump would be in his 20’s instead of 45%
SuperLib
Trump supporters link in CNN more than everyone else combined. It always starts with, "Even CNN says...."
bass4funk
It never finishes, what are you talking about?
It was until the virus hit, nothing to be confused about and to add to that that Trump was close to 50% at bedtime and then he only slipped points and still maintaining is nothing short of astounding..
A full and complete lockdown will do that, even if it’s built by the Mighty Thor himself.
lincolnman
True, given their aversion to health guidelines, and believing Trump when he says to inject disinfectant, the number of deaths by Trump supporters is growing each day - 80K now and increasing by about 2K each day....
While they don't support mail-in voting, next we'll hear Trump and his supporters cheering for another form of voting....from the grave....
bass4funk
True. You can get the transcripts for all the shows
Yeah, like the Russian thing, I feel ya....
sf2k
This is fine. Nature will take its course
Toasted Heretic
Literally nobody has said that.
Please. Feel free to disagree with experts in favor of someone who suggests disinfectant as a cure.
I mean, come on, what's science/medicine ever done for us?
Wolfpack
Just keep the young and healthy locked down indefinitely. Borrow and spend $1 trillion a month indefinitely. It’s not real money anyway. Stau at home, do nothing, and live a happy and comfortable life. It’s the only way.
Blacklabel
well here is your other "expert", Dr. Barbot
https://nypost.com/2020/05/13/nyc-health-commissioner-wouldnt-supply-nypd-with-masks/
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The Avenger
Tracking people is the real reason for the six foot rule. The tracking systems can't individually track people that get within six feet of each other so they want "social distancing" rules in place until they get the tech sorted out and are able to track people closer.
Toasted Heretic
I seriously doubt all the people who are struggling and at home are doing nothing.
And even if they can't work from home, I imagine they are busy protecting themselves and their families from the outbreak and any variations on the disease like the inflammatory virus affecting children in New York.
But, to be fair, you have exposed the problem at the heart of capitalism - money.
Toasted Heretic
And what does this have to do with the topic of medical advice being aggressively dismissed in public?
Jimizo
Bass, 45% is a minority.
Jsapc
The economical project leading to the greatest economy ever. Judging from the administration's declaration, it was a done deal. The economy was already the strongest in history (nevermind the facts that show it wasn't). And you just said it was close to becoming that before the pandemic hit. So that means that it wasn't the greatest yet?
If the economy was the greatest in the history of the world and he's doing such a fantastic job on all points, shouldn't his approval rating be at 95%?
Blacklabel
Yes, conveniently there is never a "good time" to discuss any potential crimes/wrongdoing on "the other side".
Every single day already has a predetermined media narrative that anything we want to investigate is "deflecting" or "distracting" from.
Next 6 months, we set the narrative, liberals have had it for almost 4 years now. our turn.
bass4funk
CNN over and outplayed this nonsense now to the hilt.
Which is better than good when you are an incumbent President, not good news at all for the Democrat contender now watch it tick back up once the economy re-opens again.
Jsapc
What are you talking about and how is it in any way relevant to this topic?
Fox News (still the most popular and profitable cable news channel in the US) has sucessfully made you believe the right wing media is persecuted and censored. It isn't.
The Avenger
If you questioned the official version of John F Kennedy’s assassination and doubted that his killer, Lee Harvey Oswald, had acted alone, the CIA called it a conspiracy theory.
Jimizo
No problem. Nobody watches it. No influence.
No point mentioning it.
bass4funk
Well, it is to a point, I know this for a fact, conservative media outlets are constantly under attack, I worked for NBC in Burbank in the 90’s and it wasn’t as bad as it is now, but it was far from being conservative friendly. They and CNN and other really started their conservative jihad after Bush won in 2000. Keith Olbermann was the first and grandfather of attacking conservatives every night in the most vicious and unprofessional way possible, he was somewhat of an icon in his day for the left and now the left felt they could bash conservatives every day and the attacks have gotten bolder with each passing day. Liberals jumped on Fox for asking Obama a question, Trump gets harassed no matter what he does or says, no matter what and people are getting tired of it and cutting off these liberal networks, but that doesn’t mean, liberals will stop, they won’t.
lincolnman
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-cZG81-MPQ
SuperLib
The moderate and left have a fragmented media landscape involving about a dozen dominant players. The right is dominated by a single source: Fox News. The right has the ability to control the entire narrative through a single source in complete coordination with politicians.
That's simply not possible with the middle and the left. You yourself brag about Fox's numbers but fail to realize what that means in terms of presenting a single narrative. Try doing that with a single source or a dozen sources.
bass4funk
Wish one of them would be honest.
To a certain extent and that is only because the liberal networks don’t allow for opposing points of view, FOX does.
They fired Andy Lack, so that’s a positive step, hopefully they’ll get Jeff Zucker out sooner rather than later.
No, I do not, at least FOX will have various opinions and viewpoints and CNN and msnbc do not.
SuperLib
Well, I tried.
bass4funk
Liberals have sadly been trying for almost 4 years....wow!
Jsapc
The supposed dishonesty of all "liberal media" is a falsehood peddled by Fox News.
The supposed lack of opposing points of view on all "liberal networks" is a falsehood peddled by Fox News.
Converly, the presence of "opposing views" on Fox News is equally a falsehood, since they rarely give enough of an importance to those opposing voices to make them relevant in any way. Fox News claims it is "fair and balanced", but is the most outrageously biased network on television. The rare voices of reason (Shepard Smith...) have all left because everyday the network sinks to new lows. It habitually openly lies, distorts the truth, hides news that are detrimental to their favourite politicians and propagate conspiracy theories to boot.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/04/coronavirus-conspiracies-charged-conservative-media-fox-news
COVID-19 Conspiracies Are Turobocharged Through Conservative Media
Fox News opinion hosts, right-wing radio hosts, and social media users have contributed to an “infodemic” plaguing society alongside the spread of the coronavirus.
I also encourage everyone to simply read their wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fox_News#Content
Blacklabel
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lincolnman
Hmmmm....not an "acceptable answer". Maybe Trump supporter here can explain that....
Dr Fauci was asked his opinion and assessment under oath, and he provided it. You could say it was incorrect, overly broad, not consistent with your assessment, etc. But not acceptable? How? If he answered any other way that was not what he believed, he would be lying under oath...
We understand given Manafort, Gates, Stone, Papadapolous, and Flynn, that's not seen as a crime in the Trump administration....
But Dr Fauci has more integrity and honesty than any of those convicts...
Not acceptable means only one thing - whatever I (Trump) say is the only "acceptable" answer - and that includes "disinfecting yourself from the inside"...
stormcrow
I still can’t believe some people are listening to a guy, Trump, who a short time ago was talking about ingesting disinfectants over a genuine doctor. That’s just plain nuts.
Blacklabel
so why was Fauci mostly incorrect about masks, cruises, treatments and death count models?
I can stand with his political leanings if he can do his medical job correctly. Upon examination of his results to date, I dont see any justification to support him being the only one at the table deciding things anymore.
Kids need to go to school, there is no data to suggest they cant.
SuperLib
Then don't listen to him. Open up your office again.
Blacklabel
It not about me or my office, its about America as a whole. This one guy, in direct coordination with the liberal media, its attempting to paralyze the entire country. As Trump said, thats not an acceptable answer. Back to work, back to school, back to life.
bass4funk
Not falsehood, they got trapped so many times and yet again a few days ago, NBC altered the video of Katherine Herritage and AG Barr splicing his words. Too many retractions to count, Chuck Todd lied and did so deliberately, but he got caught.
So give me a list of hardcore conservatives shooting in back and forth on a panel that aren’t Rhinos or Trump haters exclusively.
If that were even the slightest bit true they wouldn’t be hitting the number one slots daily, CNN and msnbc can’t catch up and one reason for that, they’re 24/7 on hating Trump, on FNC you have some that like the President, some that don’t, some in the middle and a lot of people want to see that in a news channel not a complete pile on. Of course there are some that enjoy that and they can watch the lib networks, but being impartial towards the President, they‘ll never be.
I wouldn’t say that, but I will say, on FNC he was allowed to say what he wants as others do and I can tell you for a fact, you can’t do that at CNN or msnbc, no way.
bass4funk
Can’t wait for the pardons.
We all have our opinions. God, he is not though....
SuperLib
But you are opening it up, right? I mean Fauci has been exposed as a hack and liberal operative. Thought you were moving on.
Moderator
Readers, no more bickering please. Please comment on the story.
ulysses
Dr. Fauci has been the sole sane voice in this WH mayhem of a response to the virus.
But when his narrative doesn't fit into the drug deal that Faux is cooking up, they go after him.
People who consider Faux and its band of bigots balanced, have lost their sense of balance.
Blacklabel
Right when it is time to reopen and send kids back to school, a new narrative.
"Expect more cases of strange coronavirus syndrome in kids, doctors warn"
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/14/health/pediatric-coronavirus-syndrome-multisystem-health/index.html
SuperLib
Fox is hitting the #1 slots daily as one of the few conservative outlets? Seems pretty easy to present a single narrative.
bass4funk
Single narrative would belong to CNN and their hatred for this President. As for the good Dr. Fauci, he is good, but I won’t say, he’s been the best when it comes to wisdom and knowledge on this virus, but as a scientist he doesn’t make policy and his medical recommendations won’t put food on the table for millions, so these liberals governors need to step up and open up the country and stop with this nonsense. More stimulus won’t cut it. I get Dems want the country to depend on the government forever. If this continue, the entire country is going to look like California especially downtown LA.
Blacklabel
CNN has wrapped it all up into a nice little package for us:
Fauci, Trump, Fox News hosts, Rand Paul, people Trump has fired.
Total Fauci lovefest puff piece. Pro-lockdown, anti-Trump.
No need to think at all, just let CNN tell us what is best for all of us. the liberal media always knows best.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/14/politics/donald-trump-anthony-fauci-science-coronavirus/index.html
bass4funk
Hating the President, retractions, corrections, constant attacks, never, ever tried to be fair or taking a middle position, wouldn’t be FNC, so that means....
SuperLib
So Fox has more viewers, and more viewers who get all of their news from Fox, so easier to present and spread a single narrative?
Is that what you're trying to avoid saying?
bass4funk
The opposite, I believe some things, but I agree with Rand Paul, he’s not the God of everything.
On cable, yes.
SuperLib
Great. Easier for a single narrative from the right.
Blacklabel
No, I think I have identified at least 4 areas that Fauci failed, indicated that I agree with our President that its time to go back to work and school.
Also criticized the CNN liberal media narratives of the day which seem to ignore anything non liberals want to discuss (unmaskings, the upcoming election, Flynn, the Dem election losses today) in favor of more and more Fauci, Fauci, Fauci with a side dish of pro-China propaganda.
Really nothing else to say related to this article.
Serrano
I just happen to think Trump is focused more on his reelection than the best way out. It's just the kind of man he is. Can't fault me for that given the evidence.
I just happen to put two and two together and figured out that the Democrats are more focused on ousting Trump than they are on doing what's right. Can't fault me for that given the evidence.
bass4funk
Hardly.
Amen!!!
Jsapc
No, you haven't identified anything.
Why are you still obsessively talking about CNN? Nodoby else is even mentioning them remotely. Is that what people call CNN Derangement Syndrom?
Blacklabel
Masks, cruises, treatments, death models. 1, 2, 3, 4.
"There's no reason to be walking around with a mask," infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci told 60 Minutes.
COVID-19 Travel Update: Fauci Says Cruising Is OK If You Are Healthy
Remdesivir Now 'Standard of Care' for COVID-19, Fauci Says
Based on Fauci’s 10-fold formula, we get a range of COVID-19 mortality rates extrapolated from these two influenza seasons from 120,000 to 610,000 deaths in the United States.
bass4funk
A lot of people in Japan are doing it.
Wait until the declaration is over tomorrow, the malls will be swamped.
So it’s not as bad as it was hyped to be.
Jimizo
It doesn’t matter. Nobody is watching or listening to CNN according to you although you and Blacklabel seem to be exceptions.
Nobody knows that they are talking about Trump apart from you two. I think it would be better if you two talked about this as you are the only people who know what they are saying.